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ssjevot
09/18/19 6:26:55 AM
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NinjaBreakfast posted...
It felt like the direction you were going in was that people who try to "censor" games like that are sex negative in the same way so apologies if that was not the case.

And yes you're right, that distinction and these people do exist. I'm not sure they had much of an input here, though, nor do I think the references to 'blue haired sjws!' slot in under that banner either.


This topic is completely about sex work. That they stream games is kind of incidental, so I don't know why game censorship is being brought up, because that's not the issue Twitch has with the streamers. You can definitely stream boob games on Twitch (as long as they don't have full on nudity). The game censorship thing feels like a red herring, especially since I never mentioned anything about it.

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MrMallard
09/18/19 6:28:12 AM
#52:


I mean, recently we had a bunch of dipshits jerking each other off over reporting tiddy streamers to the IRS.

I'm not gonna jump all over feminism when a bunch of mouthbreathers conducted a "thot audit" earlier in the year.
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ssjevot
09/18/19 6:30:34 AM
#53:


That's kind of the point isn't it? That the far right, and sex-negative feminists (not feminism, the anti-sex work subset) both oppose this. And it creates an indirect (and at times direct) alliance against these things.

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NinjaBreakfast
09/18/19 6:31:03 AM
#54:


ssjevot posted...
NinjaBreakfast posted...
It felt like the direction you were going in was that people who try to "censor" games like that are sex negative in the same way so apologies if that was not the case.

And yes you're right, that distinction and these people do exist. I'm not sure they had much of an input here, though, nor do I think the references to 'blue haired sjws!' slot in under that banner either.


This topic is completely about sex work. That they stream games is kind of incidental, so I don't know why game censorship is being brought up, because that's not the issue Twitch has with the streamers. You can definitely stream boob games on Twitch (as long as they don't have full on nudity). The game censorship thing feels like a red herring, especially since I never mentioned anything about it.

I was merely pre-empting the usual discourse that tends to follow posts about "sjws" and "tumblrinas". Do you agree that it is unlikely that these people are unlikely to have instigated this?

Also, posts like this imply the video game thing before I did:
DeadBankerDream posted...
Kotaku complaining about culture that shuts down any woman who does anything other than sit wearing office wear is rich considering they have played an active part in creating a culture where women wearing sexy clothing is sexist.

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bulbinking
09/18/19 6:39:28 AM
#55:


MrMallard posted...
I mean, recently we had a bunch of dipshits jerking each other off over reporting tiddy streamers to the IRS.

I'm not gonna jump all over feminism when a bunch of mouthbreathers conducted a "thot audit" earlier in the year.


Theres plenty of cam sites for them to take their TnA to without ruining gaming. Pretending to be gamers then exploiting teens and lonely men is not okay.

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ssjevot
09/18/19 6:40:51 AM
#56:


I think that it's an intersection of anti-sex work activists and the typical right-wing hate movements found basically everywhere in gaming. Anti-sex work activists largely occupy the aged-tenure ivory tour residing part of the humanities in academia, so I doubt they know much about Twitch, but they definitely influence the discourse and create justification for opposition to sex work. The hatred for sex doesn't really exist where I live so I don't encounter it outside the internet. Boobs are life here. We've got the annual boob grabbing charity event.

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ssjevot
09/18/19 6:42:01 AM
#57:


bulbinking posted...
Theres plenty of cam sites for them to take their TnA to without ruining gaming. Pretending to be gamers then exploiting teens and lonely men is not okay.


Is any transaction considered exploitation now if one person wants what the other person is selling and pays them willingly for it? Man the entire economy would basically be exploitation at that point. I see delicious food advertised all the time, exploiting my hunger to get me to eat at their restaurant.

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Scotty_Rogers
09/18/19 6:42:28 AM
#58:


Yeah i notice my fav big titty Asian streamer velvet_7 wasnt around
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Shablagoo
09/18/19 6:55:21 AM
#59:


ssjevot posted...
Why is sex and sexuality evil in America again?


Puritan roots
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bulbinking
09/18/19 7:00:04 AM
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ssjevot posted...
Is any transaction considered exploitation now if one person wants what the other person is selling and pays them willingly for it? Man the entire economy would basically be exploitation at that point. I see delicious food advertised all the time, exploiting my hunger to get me to eat at their restaurant.


Are you serious? Porn is free. Most camsites you can see full nudity before getting blocked behind a paywall. Why do you have to try to get horny off twitch streams too? Sounds like you have an addiction pal. Stop white knighting the thots, you arent getting laid by your favorite streamer just because you donated hundreds of dollars.

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Shablagoo
09/18/19 7:02:26 AM
#61:


bulbinking posted...
ssjevot posted...
Is any transaction considered exploitation now if one person wants what the other person is selling and pays them willingly for it? Man the entire economy would basically be exploitation at that point. I see delicious food advertised all the time, exploiting my hunger to get me to eat at their restaurant.


Are you serious? Porn is free. Most camsites you can see full nudity before getting blocked behind a paywall. Why do you have to try to get horny off twitch streams too? Sounds like you have an addiction pal. Stop white knighting the thots, you arent getting laid by your favorite streamer just because you donated hundreds of dollars.


That doesnt address his point in the slightest.
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Southernfatman
09/18/19 7:04:14 AM
#62:


I never had any hatred against twitch cam girls, but people defending them just makes me go "what?"
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NinjaBreakfast
09/18/19 7:04:36 AM
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Lol you can tell how sincere dudes concern for 'exploited men' is when his next post is trying to insult somebody by saying they're addicted to watching these streams
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im not 13
09/18/19 7:05:50 AM
#64:


They do nothing for the gaming industry except harm it

Good riddance
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Shablagoo
09/18/19 7:08:24 AM
#65:


NinjaBreakfast posted...
Lol you can tell how sincere dudes concern for 'exploited men' is when his next post is trying to insult somebody by saying they're addicted to watching these streams


How is it exploitation?

Shut up you fucking porn addicted white knight incel sjw REEEEEEEE *meltdown intensifies*
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bulbinking
09/18/19 7:08:35 AM
#66:


Southernfatman posted...
I never had any hatred against twitch cam girls, but people defending them just makes me go "what?"


The people defending them are thirsty men, hedonists, and sex positive feminists

aka nobody important to the functioning of society at large

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hockeybub89
09/18/19 7:14:49 AM
#67:


No one ever wants to dance with the fool who went and ripped his pants
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ssjevot
09/18/19 7:20:38 AM
#68:


bulbinking posted...
Are you serious? Porn is free. Most camsites you can see full nudity before getting blocked behind a paywall. Why do you have to try to get horny off twitch streams too? Sounds like you have an addiction pal. Stop white knighting the thots, you arent getting laid by your favorite streamer just because you donated hundreds of dollars.


I don't watch streamers, and prostitution is legal and cheap here, so if I was desperate I would just go to a brothel. I think you have a massive misunderstanding of what my point was.

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bulbinking
09/18/19 7:29:49 AM
#69:


ssjevot posted...
I don't watch streamers, and prostitution is legal and cheap here, so if I was desperate I would just go to a brothel. I think you have a massive misunderstanding of what my point was.


You have a massive misunderstanding of the largest twitch demographics if you think twitch thots arent exposing children to explicit content or manipulating desperate lonely men who just want to watch some videogames and are instead enticed by people clearly breaking the tos for easy shameless cash much like drug dealers selling heroine to addicts

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NinjaBreakfast
09/18/19 7:32:16 AM
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if exploiting lonely men with the intention of getting donations is something that is bannable then I worry for the future of the podcast industry
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ssjevot
09/18/19 7:34:15 AM
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I am not bothered by kids being exposed to sex. You see porn mags with explicit pictures readily viewable in every convenience store and sex is used to sell everything here. It doesn't even remotely bother me.

I sometimes go to hostess clubs with my boss here and he pays extreme amounts of money to have beautiful young women talk and drink with us. He doesn't consider it exploitation, his wife doesn't care, my girlfriend doesn't care (she goes sometimes too actually). The idea that sexuality is inherently evil and women wanting money in exchange for sexual services is wrong, while any other economic transaction of a want for money is somehow okay just doesn't hold water with me, sorry.

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bulbinking
09/18/19 7:40:20 AM
#73:


ssjevot posted...
I am not bothered by kids being exposed to sex. You see porn mags with explicit pictures readily viewable in every convenience store and sex is used to sell everything here. It doesn't even remotely bother me.

I sometimes go to hostess clubs with my boss here and he pays extreme amounts of money to have beautiful young women talk and drink with us. He doesn't consider it exploitation, his wife doesn't care, my girlfriend doesn't care (she goes sometimes too actually). The idea that sexuality is inherently evil and women wanting money in exchange for sexual services is wrong, while any other economic transaction of a want for money is somehow okay just doesn't hold water with me, sorry.


Good for you. Hope one day you learn life is about more than getting your rocks off.

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hockeybub89
09/18/19 7:42:08 AM
#74:


*bans SpongeBob and Chun-Li*

haha take that immoral pervs. Watch your porn in private and in shame!
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im not 13
09/18/19 7:43:12 AM
#75:


ssjevot posted...
I am not bothered by kids being exposed to sex.


MonkaS?
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ssjevot
09/18/19 7:43:23 AM
#76:


That's just one part of life. Things don't have to be an either or. Some people get addicted to sex, drugs, games, whatever, but that doesn't mean any who does those things has nothing else going on in their life. Most people work, have hobbies, drink casually, have sex, etc. without any one of those things being all their life is about. I think you need to try to relax more and enjoy your life, you only get the one.

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bulbinking
09/18/19 7:45:04 AM
#77:


ssjevot posted...
That's just one part of life. Things don't have to be an either or. Some people get addicted to sex, drugs, games, whatever, but that doesn't mean any who does those things has nothing else going on in their life. Most people work, have hobbies, drink casually, have sex, etc. without any one of those things being all their life is about. I think you need to try to relax more and enjoy your life, you only get the one.


A carefree life is a life without meaning.

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NinjaBreakfast
09/18/19 7:46:12 AM
#78:


bulbinking posted...
ssjevot posted...
That's just one part of life. Things don't have to be an either or. Some people get addicted to sex, drugs, games, whatever, but that doesn't mean any who does those things has nothing else going on in their life. Most people work, have hobbies, drink casually, have sex, etc. without any one of those things being all their life is about. I think you need to try to relax more and enjoy your life, you only get the one.


A carefree life is a life without meaning.

"work will set you free"
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bulbinking
09/18/19 7:53:03 AM
#79:


NinjaBreakfast posted...
"work will set you free"


Only leeches disagree.

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Shablagoo
09/18/19 7:54:24 AM
#81:


BettyB0op08 posted...
bulbinking posted...
NinjaBreakfast posted...
"work will set you free"


Only leeches disagree.

Thats funny since ssjevot makes you look like a homeless crack addict in comparison.


lmao
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bulbinking
09/18/19 7:58:12 AM
#82:


BettyB0op08 posted...
Thats funny since ssjevot makes you look like a homeless crack addict in comparison.


How so? You know nothing about my life. This guy likes to pay women to make him feel good about himself and so does his wife because they apparently aren't enough to keep each other happy. Also proudly proclaims that kids should be exposed to sexual content. Sad.

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spikethedevil
09/18/19 7:59:42 AM
#83:


Rather something natural like sex than extreme violence and gore like Mortal Kombat for example.
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bulbinking
09/18/19 8:01:43 AM
#84:


spikethedevil posted...
Rather something natural like sex than extreme violence and gore like Mortal Kombat for example.


Implying there aren't other options.

also

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/out-the-darkness/201708/why-hedonism-doesnt-lead-happiness

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Shablagoo
09/18/19 8:02:14 AM
#85:


bulbinking posted...
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How so? You know nothing about my life. This guy likes to pay women to make him feel good about himself and so does his wife because they apparently aren't enough to keep each other happy. Also proudly proclaims that kids should be exposed to sexual content. Sad.


He already said he doesnt do that and he didnt say kids should be. Talk about not knowing anything about someones life.
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spikethedevil
09/18/19 8:03:01 AM
#86:


I never claimed hedonism does lead to happiness. But I will never understand the US sex is evil but violence blood and gore are fine mentality.
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ssjevot
09/18/19 8:03:22 AM
#87:


Not only did you misrepresent what I said, you also called my girlfriend my wife and assumed we don't make each other happy. We're very happy and enjoy hobbies together and our sex life with each other. There is no lack of satisfaction that a hostess club needs to fill. It's simply a fun thing to do sometimes (and my boss is paying, so why not). Feels like you are trolling to be honest, but it's so hard to tell a lot of the time. But no I did not proudly proclaim kids should be exposed to sex. I said kids being exposed to sex doesn't bother me. I would be much more concerned about violence. Violence harms people, sex feels good. I would much rather find out my high school kid had sex with another student consensually than got into a violent fight with another student.

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bulbinking
09/18/19 8:24:30 AM
#89:


BettyB0op08 posted...
He has gone through the process of moving and acquiring a residence overseas, has a stable job, and a loving partner. Meanwhile youre someone who rants about how thots ruin the honourable reputation of gamers. Real non-leech material there.


They do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_QI1ZLwloI" data-time="



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pogo_rabid
09/18/19 8:25:28 AM
#91:


Twitch protects it's money makers and visciously goes after anyone who tries to call them out on their bad behavior.

Amoranth dropped the N bomb and showed her V on stream recently and she only got a temp ban, or example. Hell, the larger ones even have bragged about how they're above the rules, how they know certain twitch staff who will have their back no matter what, and so far those claims have been proven true.

You see these camgirls coming over to twitch because it's easy money. The site slowly going in that direction the past couple of years really sucks. Not because I have a problem with those kinds of streams, it just doesn't belong on the platform, it pushes the overall culture into certain trends that shouldn't happen.
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bulbinking
09/18/19 8:29:28 AM
#92:


https://clips.twitch.tv/EnchantingEagerArmadilloSuperVinlin

^This should be defended as an example of art and integrity against the groups of no fun puritans! *idiots itt*

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pogo_rabid
09/18/19 8:32:07 AM
#94:


Oh, not sure if it was mentioned.

Nude tits with paint on them: A-ok

Streamer does an art stream- her drawing has boobs in them: INSTA BAN

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ToadallyAwesome posted...
They got caught snoozing at the wheel

No, they got caught facilitating, promoting, and defending this bullshit by banning people who called them out on it.
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bulbinking
09/18/19 8:34:51 AM
#95:


pogo_rabid posted...
Oh, not sure if it was mentioned.

Nude tits with paint on them: A-ok

Streamer does an art stream- her drawing has boobs in them: INSTA BAN


Well you see the painted boobs brings in cash, the drawing doesnt. Obviously the money maker is less offensive otherwise people wouldnt be paying to see it!

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untrustful
09/18/19 8:51:08 AM
#97:


Twitch mods were probably given a flat quota by amazon to ban sexual streamers, but instead of targeting exclusively sexual streamers they targeted borderline streamers; maybe to make a dumb point about how much is too much or something. But really they're just protecting the sexual streamers they follow.

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MudKip_Master
09/18/19 8:54:06 AM
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Twitch is just getting with the times, time to crack down on sources of sexual harassment and misogyny.

Tume for those women to cover up.
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untrustful
09/18/19 8:55:29 AM
#99:


Don't be surprised if Amazon comes up with an algorithm for a moderator that's even worse than a corrupt twitch mod team.

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pogo_rabid
09/18/19 8:59:05 AM
#100:


I'm honestly surprised Twitch hasn't had it's on adpocalypse yet.
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