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treewojima 09/14/19 11:44:21 AM #1:	I do not want this <cite>treewojima posted [p:927425865] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>I do not want this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 09/14/19 11:44:44 AM #2:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55G2fS0wA90" data-time=" --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:927425887] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55G2fS0wA90" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 09/14/19 11:46:03 AM #3:	Because you spend 10 hours a day watching the Dave Rubin show, obviously. --- "Your mother was a broken down tub of junk with more gentlemen callers than the operator." <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:927425926] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>Because you spend 10 hours a day watching the Dave Rubin show, obviously.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frogles 09/14/19 11:48:40 AM #4:	probably better than anything else you're watching why the fuck would anybody dislike jordan peterson --- Ahem...there's SAND on my boots! -Kefka <cite>Frogles posted [p:927426008] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>probably better than anything else you're watching why the fuck would anybody dislike jordan peterson</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrozenXylophone 09/14/19 11:49:25 AM #5:	Youtube has determined you are alt right. <cite>FrozenXylophone posted [p:927426037] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>Youtube has determined you are alt right.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 09/14/19 11:49:36 AM #6:	Frogles posted... why the fuck would anybody dislike jordan peterson Maybe his love for making Hitler seem less evil and incompetent than he was. Or the millions of insane things he says like that its impossible for atheists to quit smoking. --- "Your mother was a broken down tub of junk with more gentlemen callers than the operator." <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:927426039] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>Frogles posted...</cite> <quote>why the fuck would anybody dislike jordan peterson </quote> Maybe his love for making Hitler seem less evil and incompetent than he was. Or the millions of insane things he says like that its impossible for atheists to quit smoking.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 09/14/19 11:49:42 AM #7:	just spam "not interested" until the algorithm understands --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:927426043] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>just spam "not interested" until the algorithm understands</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ic3Bullet 09/14/19 11:52:07 AM #8:	Damn_Underscore posted... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55G2fS0wA90" data-time=" LOL! <cite>Ic3Bullet posted [p:927426125] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55G2fS0wA90" data-time="</quote> LOL!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 09/14/19 12:03:48 PM #9:	Frogles posted... probably better than anything else you're watching why the fuck would anybody dislike jordan peterson -he became famous for spreading lies about a transgender protection bill. whether he was either lying or just being stupid makes no difference to me; they're both valid reasons to dislike someone in this context -he has a bizarre cult of personality where he tells edgy teens and early 20-somethings to stand up straight and clean their rooms, and this somehow wins them over. that is... sketchy, to say the least -he publicly spreads misinformation about socialism and postmodernism. again, I don't care if he's lying or if he legitimately believes what he says. he is spreading lies, and people are listening to him. -he tried to challenge a zizek quotes bot on twitter to a debate -his philosophy is based on characterization of chaos as "feminine" and order as "masculine" and he makes no attempt to elaborate on what he means by that -his supporters often get the idea that he's apolitical, which is false and also dangerous -during his time as a therapist, he responded to them with auto-reply emails, told them to send argumentative emails to his ideological opponents, got his wife to sort through their emails without asking his patients' consent, shared identifying info with other patients, and was just generally a shitty therapist shall I go on? --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:927426507] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>Frogles posted...</cite> <quote>probably better than anything else you're watching why the fuck would anybody dislike jordan peterson</quote> -he became famous for spreading lies about a transgender protection bill. whether he was either lying or just being stupid makes no difference to me; they're both valid reasons to dislike someone in this context -he has a bizarre cult of personality where he tells edgy teens and early 20-somethings to stand up straight and clean their rooms, and this somehow wins them over. that is... sketchy, to say the least -he publicly spreads misinformation about socialism and postmodernism. again, I don't care if he's lying or if he legitimately believes what he says. he is spreading lies, and people are listening to him. -he tried to challenge a zizek quotes bot on twitter to a debate -his philosophy is based on characterization of chaos as "feminine" and order as "masculine" and he makes no attempt to elaborate on what he means by that -his supporters often get the idea that he's apolitical, which is false and also dangerous -during his time as a therapist, he responded to them with auto-reply emails, told them to send argumentative emails to his ideological opponents, got his wife to sort through their emails without asking his patients' consent, shared identifying info with other patients, and was just generally a shitty therapist shall I go on?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 09/14/19 12:07:08 PM #10:	DeadBankerDream posted... that its impossible for atheists to quit smoking. lmfao did he really say that? --- https://talktotransformer.com The Internet is kind of the whole ****ing Internet. <cite>Machete posted [p:927426623] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>DeadBankerDream posted...</cite> <quote> that its impossible for atheists to quit smoking.</quote> lmfao did he really say that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkzero297 09/14/19 12:12:16 PM #11:	averagejoel posted... Frogles posted... probably better than anything else you're watching why the fuck would anybody dislike jordan peterson -he became famous for spreading lies about a transgender protection bill. whether he was either lying or just being stupid makes no difference to me; they're both valid reasons to dislike someone in this context -he has a bizarre cult of personality where he tells edgy teens and early 20-somethings to stand up straight and clean their rooms, and this somehow wins them over. that is... sketchy, to say the least -he publicly spreads misinformation about socialism and postmodernism. again, I don't care if he's lying or if he legitimately believes what he says. he is spreading lies, and people are listening to him. -he tried to challenge a zizek quotes bot on twitter to a debate -his philosophy is based on characterization of chaos as "feminine" and order as "masculine" and he makes no attempt to elaborate on what he means by that -his supporters often get the idea that he's apolitical, which is false and also dangerous -during his time as a therapist, he responded to them with auto-reply emails, told them to send argumentative emails to his ideological opponents, got his wife to sort through their emails without asking his patients' consent, shared identifying info with other patients, and was just generally a shitty therapist shall I go on? Most of these are pretty petty complaints to be honest. --- Kirbyhameha!!! (>")>(())>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>)) <cite>darkzero297 posted [p:927426824] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>Frogles posted...</cite> <quote>probably better than anything else you're watching why the fuck would anybody dislike jordan peterson</quote> -he became famous for spreading lies about a transgender protection bill. whether he was either lying or just being stupid makes no difference to me; they're both valid reasons to dislike someone in this context -he has a bizarre cult of personality where he tells edgy teens and early 20-somethings to stand up straight and clean their rooms, and this somehow wins them over. that is... sketchy, to say the least -he publicly spreads misinformation about socialism and postmodernism. again, I don't care if he's lying or if he legitimately believes what he says. he is spreading lies, and people are listening to him. -he tried to challenge a zizek quotes bot on twitter to a debate -his philosophy is based on characterization of chaos as "feminine" and order as "masculine" and he makes no attempt to elaborate on what he means by that -his supporters often get the idea that he's apolitical, which is false and also dangerous -during his time as a therapist, he responded to them with auto-reply emails, told them to send argumentative emails to his ideological opponents, got his wife to sort through their emails without asking his patients' consent, shared identifying info with other patients, and was just generally a shitty therapist shall I go on?</quote> Most of these are pretty petty complaints to be honest.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phantom_Nook 09/14/19 12:13:32 PM #12:	ThyCorndog posted... just spam "not interested" until the algorithm understands This. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Phantom_Nook posted [p:927426867] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>just spam "not interested" until the algorithm understands</quote> This.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 09/14/19 12:15:57 PM #13:	Call me a tin foil hatter, but I wouldn't be surprised if youtube is actively trying to push right wing crap like any other propaganda. All the big media conglomerates do that crap. They're owned by rich people and keeping people dumb and conservative keeps them rich. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:927426949] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>Call me a tin foil hatter, but I wouldn't be surprised if youtube is actively trying to push right wing crap like any other propaganda. All the big media conglomerates do that crap. They're owned by rich people and keeping people dumb and conservative keeps them rich.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 09/14/19 12:16:10 PM #14:	darkzero297 posted... averagejoel posted... Frogles posted... probably better than anything else you're watching why the fuck would anybody dislike jordan peterson -he became famous for spreading lies about a transgender protection bill. whether he was either lying or just being stupid makes no difference to me; they're both valid reasons to dislike someone in this context -he has a bizarre cult of personality where he tells edgy teens and early 20-somethings to stand up straight and clean their rooms, and this somehow wins them over. that is... sketchy, to say the least -he publicly spreads misinformation about socialism and postmodernism. again, I don't care if he's lying or if he legitimately believes what he says. he is spreading lies, and people are listening to him. -he tried to challenge a zizek quotes bot on twitter to a debate -his philosophy is based on characterization of chaos as "feminine" and order as "masculine" and he makes no attempt to elaborate on what he means by that -his supporters often get the idea that he's apolitical, which is false and also dangerous -during his time as a therapist, he responded to them with auto-reply emails, told them to send argumentative emails to his ideological opponents, got his wife to sort through their emails without asking his patients' consent, shared identifying info with other patients, and was just generally a shitty therapist shall I go on? Most of these are pretty petty complaints to be honest. cool. there are lots of reasons to not like someone. there are probably people who don't like him because his voice is annoying. I was listing some of the reasons why I don't like him. feel free to actually engage with what I'm saying at some point though --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:927426960] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>darkzero297 posted...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>Frogles posted...</cite> <quote>probably better than anything else you're watching why the fuck would anybody dislike jordan peterson</quote> -he became famous for spreading lies about a transgender protection bill. whether he was either lying or just being stupid makes no difference to me; they're both valid reasons to dislike someone in this context -he has a bizarre cult of personality where he tells edgy teens and early 20-somethings to stand up straight and clean their rooms, and this somehow wins them over. that is... sketchy, to say the least -he publicly spreads misinformation about socialism and postmodernism. again, I don't care if he's lying or if he legitimately believes what he says. he is spreading lies, and people are listening to him. -he tried to challenge a zizek quotes bot on twitter to a debate -his philosophy is based on characterization of chaos as "feminine" and order as "masculine" and he makes no attempt to elaborate on what he means by that -his supporters often get the idea that he's apolitical, which is false and also dangerous -during his time as a therapist, he responded to them with auto-reply emails, told them to send argumentative emails to his ideological opponents, got his wife to sort through their emails without asking his patients' consent, shared identifying info with other patients, and was just generally a shitty therapist shall I go on?</quote> Most of these are pretty petty complaints to be honest.</quote> cool. there are lots of reasons to not like someone. there are probably people who don't like him because his voice is annoying. I was listing some of the reasons why I don't like him. feel free to actually engage with what I'm saying at some point though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frogles 09/14/19 12:17:13 PM #15:	averagejoel posted... -he became famous for spreading lies about a transgender protection bill. whether he was either lying or just being stupid makes no difference to me; they're both valid reasons to dislike someone in this context this isn't helpful. what lies has he spread? -he has a bizarre cult of personality where he tells edgy teens and early 20-somethings to stand up straight and clean their rooms, and this somehow wins them over. that is... sketchy, to say the least hes telling people to get their shit together and stop behaving like children. should people continue to act like children and not get their shit together? -he publicly spreads misinformation about socialism and postmodernism. again, I don't care if he's lying or if he legitimately believes what he says. he is spreading lies, and people are listening to him. again, not helpful. what lies is he spreading about socialism and postmodernism? -he tried to challenge a zizek quotes bot on twitter to a debate no seriously -his philosophy is based on characterization of chaos as "feminine" and order as "masculine" and he makes no attempt to elaborate on what he means by that i found a video explaining his characterization of chaos on my first google search. -his supporters often get the idea that he's apolitical, which is false and also dangerous this isnt a criticism of jordan peterson. -during his time as a therapist, he responded to them with auto-reply emails, told them to send argumentative emails to his ideological opponents, got his wife to sort through their emails without asking his patients' consent, shared identifying info with other patients, and was just generally a shitty therapist shall I go on? this one is pretty shitty if true. --- Ahem...there's SAND on my boots! -Kefka <cite>Frogles posted [p:927426995] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote> -he became famous for spreading lies about a transgender protection bill. whether he was either lying or just being stupid makes no difference to me; they're both valid reasons to dislike someone in this context</quote> this isn't helpful. what lies has he spread? <quote>-he has a bizarre cult of personality where he tells edgy teens and early 20-somethings to stand up straight and clean their rooms, and this somehow wins them over. that is... sketchy, to say the least</quote> hes telling people to get their shit together and stop behaving like children. should people continue to act like children and not get their shit together? <quote>-he publicly spreads misinformation about socialism and postmodernism. again, I don't care if he's lying or if he legitimately believes what he says. he is spreading lies, and people are listening to him.</quote> again, not helpful. what lies is he spreading about socialism and postmodernism? <quote>-he tried to challenge a zizek quotes bot on twitter to a debate</quote> no seriously <quote>-his philosophy is based on characterization of chaos as "feminine" and order as "masculine" and he makes no attempt to elaborate on what he means by that</quote> i found a video explaining his characterization of chaos on my first google search. <quote>-his supporters often get the idea that he's apolitical, which is false and also dangerous</quote> this isnt a criticism of jordan peterson. <quote>-during his time as a therapist, he responded to them with auto-reply emails, told them to send argumentative emails to his ideological opponents, got his wife to sort through their emails without asking his patients' consent, shared identifying info with other patients, and was just generally a shitty therapist shall I go on?</quote> this one is pretty shitty if true.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 09/14/19 12:24:00 PM #17:	Frogles posted... this isn't helpful. what lies has he spread? he said that it was an issue of free speech. he suggested that people would be forced to use "their language", referring primarily to gender neutral pronouns. here is the bill that he is referring to: https://www.parl.ca/DocumentViewer/en/42-1/bill/c-16/first-reading look for any mention of pronouns. take your time. hes telling people to get their shit together and stop behaving like children. should people continue to act like children and not get their shit together? this is irrelevant to the point that I was making. please read it again if you wish to engage with the point. again, not helpful. what lies is he spreading about socialism and postmodernism? this addresses a significant portion of it https://www.viewpointmag.com/2018/01/23/postmodernism-not-take-place-jordan-petersons-12-rules-life/ no seriously this isnt a criticism of jordan peterson. those were not intended to be criticisms of jordan peterson. they are reasons why someone might not like him. this one is pretty shitty if true. https://www.canadalandshow.com/how-jordan-petersons-fame-affected-his-private-practice/ --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:927427230] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>Frogles posted...</cite> <quote>this isn't helpful. what lies has he spread?</quote> he said that it was an issue of free speech. he suggested that people would be forced to use "their language", referring primarily to gender neutral pronouns. here is the bill that he is referring to: https://www.parl.ca/DocumentViewer/en/42-1/bill/c-16/first-reading look for any mention of pronouns. take your time. <quote>hes telling people to get their shit together and stop behaving like children. should people continue to act like children and not get their shit together?</quote> this is irrelevant to the point that I was making. please read it again if you wish to engage with the point. <quote>again, not helpful. what lies is he spreading about socialism and postmodernism?</quote> this addresses a significant portion of it https://www.viewpointmag.com/2018/01/23/postmodernism-not-take-place-jordan-petersons-12-rules-life/ <quote>no seriously</quote> <quote>this isnt a criticism of jordan peterson.</quote> those were not intended to be criticisms of jordan peterson. they are reasons why someone might not like him. <quote>this one is pretty shitty if true.</quote> https://www.canadalandshow.com/how-jordan-petersons-fame-affected-his-private-practice/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romes187 09/14/19 12:33:10 PM #18:	He says some silly things but his characterization of the feminine as chaos is spot on in my opinion, though its more useful to think of it as potential. <cite>Romes187 posted [p:927427558] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>He says some silly things but his characterization of the feminine as chaos is spot on in my opinion, though its more useful to think of it as potential.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordFarquad1312 09/14/19 12:33:20 PM #19:	Hit them with a "Not interested" and blacklist his chanel or the topic altogether. --- The force is my ally "If you are tired of fear from links... Let Kirby's Nightmare protect you." <cite>LordFarquad1312 posted [p:927427566] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>Hit them with a "Not interested" and blacklist his chanel or the topic altogether.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheAnthraxBunny 09/14/19 12:59:19 PM #20:	Frogles posted... probably better than anything else you're watching why the fuck would anybody dislike jordan peterson Jordan Peterson's content is for broken men and/or men who grew up without a proper father figure. If neither of those things apply to OP, there's not much of a reason to be watching his content. Edit: I'm not trying to insult anyone who feels they need this kind of help, but I don't like how fans of this content sometimes act like this is something that all men should be paying attention to when that isn't the case. --- Yes, it is against the terms of service. Do not use the boards to set up orgies. -Alucard188 <cite>TheAnthraxBunny posted [p:927428381] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>Frogles posted...</cite> <quote>probably better than anything else you're watching why the fuck would anybody dislike jordan peterson</quote> Jordan Peterson's content is for broken men and/or men who grew up without a proper father figure. If neither of those things apply to OP, there's not much of a reason to be watching his content. Edit: I'm not trying to insult anyone who feels they need this kind of help, but I don't like how fans of this content sometimes act like this is something that all men should be paying attention to when that isn't the case.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
konokonohamaru 09/14/19 1:01:48 PM #21:	I liked him at first but it seems clear to me that he's decided to milk his fame rather than contribute usefully to public debate ... some of the stuff he says is just getting more and more edgy and stupid --- ... <cite>konokonohamaru posted [p:927428458] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>I liked him at first but it seems clear to me that he's decided to milk his fame rather than contribute usefully to public debate ... some of the stuff he says is just getting more and more edgy and stupid</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 09/14/19 1:07:45 PM #22:	Do you watch videos of people debunking or making fun of his nonsense? --- Occam's razor: The simplest solution (answer) is most likely the right one <cite>creativerealms posted [p:927428692] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>Do you watch videos of people debunking or making fun of his nonsense? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frogles 09/14/19 1:17:31 PM #23:	averagejoel posted... he said that it was an issue of free speech. he suggested that people would be forced to use "their language", referring primarily to gender neutral pronouns. here is the bill that he is referring to: https://www.parl.ca/DocumentViewer/en/42-1/bill/c-16/first-reading look for any mention of pronouns. take your time. uhh its right in the summary. "This enactment amends the Canadian Human Rights Act to add gender identity and gender expression to the list of prohibited grounds of discrimination. The enactment also amends the Criminal Code to extend the protection against hate propaganda set out in that Act to any section of the public that is distinguished by gender identity or expression and to clearly set out that evidence that an offence was motivated by bias, prejudice or hate based on gender identity or expression constitutes an aggravating circumstance that a court must take into consideration when it imposes a sentence." if you're gonna ask me to read their human rights act or criminal code then i'm not going to. a quick google search showed that apparently he COULD be subjected to fines, community service, etc. i don't know what would happen if he didn't comply at that point but it sounds like he'd be being forced under threat of some sort of punishment. this is irrelevant to the point that I was making. please read it again if you wish to engage with the point. ??? this addresses a significant portion of it https://www.viewpointmag.com/2018/01/23/postmodernism-not-take-place-jordan-petersons-12-rules-life/ lmao yeah ok --- Ahem...there's SAND on my boots! -Kefka <cite>Frogles posted [p:927429038] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>he said that it was an issue of free speech. he suggested that people would be forced to use "their language", referring primarily to gender neutral pronouns. here is the bill that he is referring to: https://www.parl.ca/DocumentViewer/en/42-1/bill/c-16/first-reading look for any mention of pronouns. take your time.</quote> uhh its right in the summary. "This enactment amends the Canadian Human Rights Act to add gender identity and gender expression to the list of prohibited grounds of discrimination. The enactment also amends the Criminal Code to extend the protection against hate propaganda set out in that Act to any section of the public that is distinguished by gender identity or expression and to clearly set out that evidence that an offence was motivated by bias, prejudice or hate based on gender identity or expression constitutes an aggravating circumstance that a court must take into consideration when it imposes a sentence." if you're gonna ask me to read their human rights act or criminal code then i'm not going to. a quick google search showed that apparently he COULD be subjected to fines, community service, etc. i don't know what would happen if he didn't comply at that point but it sounds like he'd be being forced under threat of some sort of punishment. <quote>this is irrelevant to the point that I was making. please read it again if you wish to engage with the point. </quote> ??? <quote>this addresses a significant portion of it https://www.viewpointmag.com/2018/01/23/postmodernism-not-take-place-jordan-petersons-12-rules-life/</quote> lmao yeah ok</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frogles 09/14/19 1:18:36 PM #24:	TheAnthraxBunny posted... Jordan Peterson's content is for men who are broken and/or have grown up without a proper father figure. If neither of those things apply to OP, there's not much of a reason to be watching his content. fair. --- Ahem...there's SAND on my boots! -Kefka <cite>Frogles posted [p:927429079] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>TheAnthraxBunny posted...</cite> <quote>Jordan Peterson's content is for men who are broken and/or have grown up without a proper father figure. If neither of those things apply to OP, there's not much of a reason to be watching his content.</quote> fair.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
treewojima 09/14/19 1:35:26 PM #25:	creativerealms posted... Do you watch videos of people debunking or making fun of his nonsense? No, I don't even enjoy that sort of stuff <cite>treewojima posted [p:927429703] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote>Do you watch videos of people debunking or making fun of his nonsense? </quote> No, I don't even enjoy that sort of stuff</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
evil_zombie11 09/14/19 1:43:48 PM #26:	He's pretty useful to dudes with lives that are nothing but suffering and they may be inches away from losing it. Let someone care about broken men out here, someone has to. --- Yo wtf Probably lifting or running... <cite>evil_zombie11 posted [p:927430001] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>He's pretty useful to dudes with lives that are nothing but suffering and they may be inches away from losing it. Let someone care about broken men out here, someone has to.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 09/14/19 1:53:16 PM #27:	Frogles posted... uhh its right in the summary. "This enactment amends the Canadian Human Rights Act to add gender identity and gender expression to the list of prohibited grounds of discrimination. The enactment also amends the Criminal Code to extend the protection against hate propaganda set out in that Act to any section of the public that is distinguished by gender identity or expression and to clearly set out that evidence that an offence was motivated by bias, prejudice or hate based on gender identity or expression constitutes an aggravating circumstance that a court must take into consideration when it imposes a sentence." incorrect. the bill makes 0 mention of pronouns, as you have clearly shown. lmao yeah ok I'm glad you agree. thank you for reading the article. --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:927430307] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>Frogles posted...</cite> <quote> uhh its right in the summary. "This enactment amends the Canadian Human Rights Act to add gender identity and gender expression to the list of prohibited grounds of discrimination. The enactment also amends the Criminal Code to extend the protection against hate propaganda set out in that Act to any section of the public that is distinguished by gender identity or expression and to clearly set out that evidence that an offence was motivated by bias, prejudice or hate based on gender identity or expression constitutes an aggravating circumstance that a court must take into consideration when it imposes a sentence."</quote> incorrect. the bill makes 0 mention of pronouns, as you have clearly shown. <quote>lmao yeah ok</quote> I'm glad you agree. thank you for reading the article.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sad_Face 09/14/19 1:58:08 PM #28:	averagejoel posted... -his philosophy is based on characterization of chaos as "feminine" and order as "masculine" and he makes no attempt to elaborate on what he means by that His opening chapter in The 12 Rules of Life talks about this. I have the audio book and am casually going through it. It's good stuff. --- imgtc.com/i/4HgTl0ebzq.jpg imgtc.com/i/60CWP2Gtlg.gif <cite>Sad_Face posted [p:927430478] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>-his philosophy is based on characterization of chaos as "feminine" and order as "masculine" and he makes no attempt to elaborate on what he means by that</quote> His opening chapter in The 12 Rules of Life talks about this. I have the audio book and am casually going through it. It's good stuff.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 09/14/19 2:14:40 PM #30:	Sad_Face posted... averagejoel posted... -his philosophy is based on characterization of chaos as "feminine" and order as "masculine" and he makes no attempt to elaborate on what he means by that His opening chapter in The 12 Rules of Life talks about this. I have the audio book and am casually going through it. It's good stuff. ok why does he characterize chaos as feminine and order as masculine? --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:927431080] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>Sad_Face posted...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>-his philosophy is based on characterization of chaos as "feminine" and order as "masculine" and he makes no attempt to elaborate on what he means by that</quote> His opening chapter in The 12 Rules of Life talks about this. I have the audio book and am casually going through it. It's good stuff.</quote> ok why does he characterize chaos as feminine and order as masculine?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 09/14/19 2:21:20 PM #31:	Do you have a problem with characterizing being nurturing as feminine and being apathetic as masculine as inherently wrong/immoral, given no other information? --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:927431314] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>Do you have a problem with characterizing being nurturing as feminine and being apathetic as masculine as inherently wrong/immoral, given no other information?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sad_Face 09/14/19 2:38:49 PM #32:	averagejoel posted... ok why does he characterize chaos as feminine and order as masculine? He's drawing directly from Taoism, where Yin is regarded a feminine and Yang as masculine. --- imgtc.com/i/4HgTl0ebzq.jpg imgtc.com/i/60CWP2Gtlg.gif <cite>Sad_Face posted [p:927432075] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>ok why does he characterize chaos as feminine and order as masculine?</quote> He's drawing directly from Taoism, where Yin is regarded a feminine and Yang as masculine.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 09/14/19 2:42:05 PM #33:	Why is he drawing on moronic religious ideals invented by a culture that viewed the feminine as less than the masculine? --- "Your mother was a broken down tub of junk with more gentlemen callers than the operator." <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:927432192] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>Why is he drawing on moronic religious ideals invented by a culture that viewed the feminine as less than the masculine?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 09/14/19 2:59:37 PM #34:	Saying chaos = feminine and order = masculine is not saying women = chaotic and men = orderly or that women = bad and men = good. Unlike what some people in this topic are trying to imply. The idea of dualism between femininity and masculinity, that there is good and bad to both femininity and masculinity, and that humans/the universe need and are both is found in many religions and philosophies. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:927432880] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>Saying chaos = feminine and order = masculine is not saying women = chaotic and men = orderly or that women = bad and men = good. Unlike what some people in this topic are trying to imply. The idea of dualism between femininity and masculinity, that there is good and bad to both femininity and masculinity, and that humans/the universe need and are both is found in many religions and philosophies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sad_Face 09/14/19 3:02:51 PM #35:	DeadBankerDream posted... Why is he drawing on moronic religious ideals invented by a culture that viewed the feminine as less than the masculine? Do realize that it's because of advancing technologies, women are able to financially contribute as much as men. Just a few hundred years back, women were relying on men to do jobs they physically weren't able to (this is still true today in certain fields, just nowhere near as numerous) and those were among the few jobs available to provide for the family. There are differences between the gender, don't try to rank them but at least acknowledge their differences. --- imgtc.com/i/4HgTl0ebzq.jpg imgtc.com/i/60CWP2Gtlg.gif <cite>Sad_Face posted [p:927432997] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>DeadBankerDream posted...</cite> <quote>Why is he drawing on moronic religious ideals invented by a culture that viewed the feminine as less than the masculine?</quote> Do realize that it's because of advancing technologies, women are able to financially contribute as much as men. Just a few hundred years back, women were relying on men to do jobs they physically weren't able to (this is still true today in certain fields, just nowhere near as numerous) and those were among the few jobs available to provide for the family. There are differences between the gender, don't try to rank them but at least acknowledge their differences.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 09/14/19 3:06:07 PM #36:	Sad_Face posted... Do realize that it's because of advancing technologies, women are able to financially contribute as much as men. Just a few hundred years back, women were relying on men to do jobs they physically weren't able to (this is still true today in certain fields, just nowhere near as numerous) and those were among the few jobs available to provide for the family. do you think this might have had something to do with society ostracizing women if they didn't conform to an arbitrary standard and act exactly as the men in power wanted them to? --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:927433115] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>Sad_Face posted...</cite> <quote>Do realize that it's because of advancing technologies, women are able to financially contribute as much as men. Just a few hundred years back, women were relying on men to do jobs they physically weren't able to (this is still true today in certain fields, just nowhere near as numerous) and those were among the few jobs available to provide for the family. </quote> do you think this might have had something to do with society ostracizing women if they didn't conform to an arbitrary standard and act exactly as the men in power wanted them to?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shadow20201 09/14/19 3:51:18 PM #37:	averagejoel posted... Frogles posted... uhh its right in the summary. "This enactment amends the Canadian Human Rights Act to add gender identity and gender expression to the list of prohibited grounds of discrimination. The enactment also amends the Criminal Code to extend the protection against hate propaganda set out in that Act to any section of the public that is distinguished by gender identity or expression and to clearly set out that evidence that an offence was motivated by bias, prejudice or hate based on gender identity or expression constitutes an aggravating circumstance that a court must take into consideration when it imposes a sentence." incorrect. the bill makes 0 mention of pronouns, as you have clearly shown. lmao yeah ok I'm glad you agree. thank you for reading the article. Misgendering someone by refusing to use their pronouns is a thing. The crux of his argument isn't that it's wrong, just that it doesn't necessarily need to be legislated so broadly. At least that's what I remember last time I looked into him. He presented valid counterpoints, though I didn't end up agreeing with him. --- czzzzzzzzzz[]:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::/ 'Sir we are surrounded!' 'Excellent, then we can attack in any direction.' <cite>Shadow20201 posted [p:927434747] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>Frogles posted...</cite> <quote> uhh its right in the summary. "This enactment amends the Canadian Human Rights Act to add gender identity and gender expression to the list of prohibited grounds of discrimination. The enactment also amends the Criminal Code to extend the protection against hate propaganda set out in that Act to any section of the public that is distinguished by gender identity or expression and to clearly set out that evidence that an offence was motivated by bias, prejudice or hate based on gender identity or expression constitutes an aggravating circumstance that a court must take into consideration when it imposes a sentence."</quote> incorrect. the bill makes 0 mention of pronouns, as you have clearly shown. <quote>lmao yeah ok</quote> I'm glad you agree. thank you for reading the article.</quote> Misgendering someone by refusing to use their pronouns is a thing. The crux of his argument isn't that it's wrong, just that it doesn't necessarily need to be legislated so broadly. At least that's what I remember last time I looked into him. He presented valid counterpoints, though I didn't end up agreeing with him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 09/14/19 3:57:42 PM #38:	Frogles posted... probably better than anything else you're watching why the fuck would anybody dislike jordan peterson His Kermit voice and his painfully slow and meandering way of speaking I don't hate the guy but he's like the epitome of a boring stuffy academic --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:927434957] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>Frogles posted...</cite> <quote>probably better than anything else you're watching why the fuck would anybody dislike jordan peterson</quote> His Kermit voice and his painfully slow and meandering way of speaking I don't hate the guy but he's like the epitome of a boring stuffy academic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 09/14/19 3:59:12 PM #39:	MC_BatCommander posted... Frogles posted... probably better than anything else you're watching why the fuck would anybody dislike jordan peterson His Kermit voice and his painfully slow and meandering way of speaking I don't hate the guy but he's like the epitome of a boring stuffy academic There is some Jordan Peterson voice bot or something that's making the rounds. Makes for entertaining clips. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac/wishlist/ <cite>Esrac posted [p:927435008] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote>Frogles posted...</cite> <quote>probably better than anything else you're watching why the fuck would anybody dislike jordan peterson</quote> His Kermit voice and his painfully slow and meandering way of speaking I don't hate the guy but he's like the epitome of a boring stuffy academic</quote> There is some Jordan Peterson voice bot or something that's making the rounds. Makes for entertaining clips.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phewfus 09/14/19 4:19:32 PM #40:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PESYQ6TGwhQ" data-time=" <cite>Phewfus posted [p:927435701] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PESYQ6TGwhQ" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
treewojima 09/14/19 4:30:10 PM #41:	should have known this topic would blow up <cite>treewojima posted [p:927436094] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>should have known this topic would blow up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
au_gold 09/14/19 4:47:13 PM #42:	He's the best philosopher alive. --- Let me talk to your mother. Get your mother please. <cite>au_gold posted [p:927436736] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>He's the best philosopher alive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sad_Face 09/14/19 10:59:44 PM #43:	averagejoel posted... do you think this might have had something to do with society ostracizing women if they didn't conform to an arbitrary standard and act exactly as the men in power wanted them to? No. I just think it's biological differences that give men the advantage. If the only jobs available were physical labor, men are going to have the leg up. Though I say this, as you said, the power the leads have determine the dynamics of the culture. I hear when the first set of Europeans came to the New World, a good number of them, both young men and women, defected to Native American tribes due to power and authority being more balanced in their communities. For instance, women in the tribes had much more autonomy than in the early settlements and each person in the tribe had to contribute, which in turn gave them a stronger sense of purpose. You seem to have an opinion on this already that you were alluding to so please, elaborate. --- imgtc.com/i/4HgTl0ebzq.jpg imgtc.com/i/60CWP2Gtlg.gif <cite>Sad_Face posted [p:927449983] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>do you think this might have had something to do with society ostracizing women if they didn't conform to an arbitrary standard and act exactly as the men in power wanted them to?</quote> No. I just think it's biological differences that give men the advantage. If the only jobs available were physical labor, men are going to have the leg up. Though I say this, as you said, the power the leads have determine the dynamics of the culture. I hear when the first set of Europeans came to the New World, a good number of them, both young men and women, defected to Native American tribes due to power and authority being more balanced in their communities. For instance, women in the tribes had much more autonomy than in the early settlements and each person in the tribe had to contribute, which in turn gave them a stronger sense of purpose. You seem to have an opinion on this already that you were alluding to so please, elaborate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 09/14/19 11:01:04 PM #44:	Lol I forgot about that guy and his lobster fantasies. His 15 minutes went by quicker than I thought it would <cite>Axiom posted [p:927450033] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>Lol I forgot about that guy and his lobster fantasies. His 15 minutes went by quicker than I thought it would</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ColdOne666 09/14/19 11:04:30 PM #45:	averagejoel posted... Frogles posted... probably better than anything else you're watching why the fuck would anybody dislike jordan peterson -he became famous for spreading lies about a transgender protection bill. whether he was either lying or just being stupid makes no difference to me; they're both valid reasons to dislike someone in this context -he has a bizarre cult of personality where he tells edgy teens and early 20-somethings to stand up straight and clean their rooms, and this somehow wins them over. that is... sketchy, to say the least -he publicly spreads misinformation about socialism and postmodernism. again, I don't care if he's lying or if he legitimately believes what he says. he is spreading lies, and people are listening to him. -he tried to challenge a zizek quotes bot on twitter to a debate -his philosophy is based on characterization of chaos as "feminine" and order as "masculine" and he makes no attempt to elaborate on what he means by that -his supporters often get the idea that he's apolitical, which is false and also dangerous -during his time as a therapist, he responded to them with auto-reply emails, told them to send argumentative emails to his ideological opponents, got his wife to sort through their emails without asking his patients' consent, shared identifying info with other patients, and was just generally a shitty therapist shall I go on? Nice lies --- FFX is the best game of all time. Comics are for kids. https://imgur.com/LJ3WSyB . Germany and Great Britain should have been on the same side in WW2. <cite>ColdOne666 posted [p:927450183] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>Frogles posted...</cite> <quote>probably better than anything else you're watching why the fuck would anybody dislike jordan peterson</quote> -he became famous for spreading lies about a transgender protection bill. whether he was either lying or just being stupid makes no difference to me; they're both valid reasons to dislike someone in this context -he has a bizarre cult of personality where he tells edgy teens and early 20-somethings to stand up straight and clean their rooms, and this somehow wins them over. that is... sketchy, to say the least -he publicly spreads misinformation about socialism and postmodernism. again, I don't care if he's lying or if he legitimately believes what he says. he is spreading lies, and people are listening to him. -he tried to challenge a zizek quotes bot on twitter to a debate -his philosophy is based on characterization of chaos as "feminine" and order as "masculine" and he makes no attempt to elaborate on what he means by that -his supporters often get the idea that he's apolitical, which is false and also dangerous -during his time as a therapist, he responded to them with auto-reply emails, told them to send argumentative emails to his ideological opponents, got his wife to sort through their emails without asking his patients' consent, shared identifying info with other patients, and was just generally a shitty therapist shall I go on?</quote> Nice lies</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BignutzisBack 09/14/19 11:25:09 PM #46:	It's amazing how easily Peterson gets people frothing at the mouth lol --- https://imgur.com/plA0Vg9 https://media.giphy.com/media/dgK22exekwOLm/giphy.gif <cite>BignutzisBack posted [p:927451102] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>It's amazing how easily Peterson gets people frothing at the mouth lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 09/14/19 11:36:10 PM #47:	Frogles posted... averagejoel posted... look for any mention of pronouns. take your time. uhh its right in the summary. "This enactment amends the Canadian Human Rights Act to add gender identity and gender expression to the list of prohibited grounds of discrimination. The enactment also amends the Criminal Code to extend the protection against hate propaganda set out in that Act to any section of the public that is distinguished by gender identity or expression and to clearly set out that evidence that an offence was motivated by bias, prejudice or hate based on gender identity or expression constitutes an aggravating circumstance that a court must take into consideration when it imposes a sentence." if you're gonna ask me to read their human rights act or criminal code then i'm not going to. a quick google search showed that apparently he COULD be subjected to fines, community service, etc. i don't know what would happen if he didn't comply at that point but it sounds like he'd be being forced under threat of some sort of punishment. Yeah, I remember trying to make sense of this when it first came out. There is enough wiggle space in the verbiage for me to trust that a legal punishment could not ever be implemented. Plus, we are talking about Canada. They fined a comedian thousands for a standup bit that hurt a kid and his mothers feelings. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:927451550] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>Frogles posted...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>look for any mention of pronouns. take your time.</quote> uhh its right in the summary. "This enactment amends the Canadian Human Rights Act to add gender identity and gender expression to the list of prohibited grounds of discrimination. The enactment also amends the Criminal Code to extend the protection against hate propaganda set out in that Act to any section of the public that is distinguished by gender identity or expression and to clearly set out that evidence that an offence was motivated by bias, prejudice or hate based on gender identity or expression constitutes an aggravating circumstance that a court must take into consideration when it imposes a sentence." if you're gonna ask me to read their human rights act or criminal code then i'm not going to. a quick google search showed that apparently he COULD be subjected to fines, community service, etc. i don't know what would happen if he didn't comply at that point but it sounds like he'd be being forced under threat of some sort of punishment.</quote> Yeah, I remember trying to make sense of this when it first came out. There is enough wiggle space in the verbiage for me to trust that a legal punishment could not ever be implemented. Plus, we are talking about Canada. They fined a comedian thousands for a standup bit that hurt a kid and his mothers feelings.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thrashmetal14 09/14/19 11:40:53 PM #48:	Jordan Peterson is both smarter and wiser than the haters in this topic. Thats all I have to say. <cite>thrashmetal14 posted [p:927451712] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>Jordan Peterson is both smarter and wiser than the haters in this topic. Thats all I have to say. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bevan306 09/14/19 11:52:32 PM #49:	I dunno why his fans have such low standards but the guy is not intelligent --- http://rateyourmusic.com/~bevan https://imgur.com/5Ta28 <cite>bevan306 posted [p:927452110] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>I dunno why his fans have such low standards but the guy is not intelligent</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
berlyman101 09/15/19 12:10:03 AM #50:	So the bill is including trans people in its hate crime laws? So Peterson says that means he could be punished by law for not using the preferred pronoun of someone because it could be interpreted, reported, and tried as a hate crime, and he could be fined and since he would refuse to pay or do community service or whatever, he could be jailed? Therefore, he would be forced at all times by law to say what someone else wants, therefore the government is forcing him to use certain language he "finds detestable," which he never articulates iirc, therefore trampling on his and everyone else's free speech and threatening to come for him with government thugs which are in cahoots with the universities which are run by postmodern neomarxists in a grand conspiracy meant to force us to use nongendered pronouns and destroy our families? I dunno, seems like a bit of a stretch. --- http://www.lukesurl.com/comics/2010-02-24-determinism.png <cite>berlyman101 posted [p:927452679] in ew, why am... [t:78013337]...</cite> <quote>So the bill is including trans people in its hate crime laws? So Peterson says that means he could be punished by law for not using the preferred pronoun of someone because it could be interpreted, reported, and tried as a hate crime, and he could be fined and since he would refuse to pay or do community service or whatever, he could be jailed? Therefore, he would be forced at all times by law to say what someone else wants, therefore the government is forcing him to use certain language he "finds detestable," which he never articulates iirc, therefore trampling on his and everyone else's free speech and threatening to come for him with government thugs which are in cahoots with the universities which are run by postmodern neomarxists in a grand conspiracy meant to force us to use nongendered pronouns and destroy our families? I dunno, seems like a bit of a stretch. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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