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De Evolution
09/13/19 2:48:18 AM
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I can cheat on business trips and vacations at least 3 times a year.

Always use a condom.

Monogamy isn't realistic at all.
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Turtlebread
09/13/19 2:57:29 AM
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not necessary when no one's gonna marry you
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Complete_Idi0t
09/13/19 2:59:32 AM
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um, excuse me, miss? It says right here I can have sex while on this business trip

please respond
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/13/19 3:03:12 AM
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what ever happened to "what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas?"
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boxington
09/13/19 3:03:43 AM
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Complete_Idi0t posted...
um, excuse me, miss? It says right here I can have sex while on this business trip

please respond

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De Evolution
09/13/19 3:05:47 AM
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...
what ever happened to "what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas?"


Women don't respect male sexuality.

They don't get that a man has a very strong and deep biological urge to sleep with other women.

Women cheat for emotional purposes on average while men cheat for sexual satisfaction on average so they think when we cheat on them we don't love them or they're not good enough.

In reality, we're just different animals.
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Bananana
09/13/19 3:23:15 AM
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De Evolution posted...
Women don't respect male sexuality.

They don't get that a man has a very strong and deep biological urge to sleep with other women.

Women cheat for emotional purposes on average while men cheat for sexual satisfaction on average so they think when we cheat on them we don't love them or they're not good enough.

In reality, we're just different animals.
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De Evolution
09/13/19 3:31:09 AM
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metallica846 posted...
De Evolution posted...
Women don't respect male sexuality.

They don't get that a man has a very strong and deep biological urge to sleep with other women.

Women cheat for emotional purposes on average while men cheat for sexual satisfaction on average so they think when we cheat on them we don't love them or they're not good enough.

In reality, we're just different animals.


That sounds like a Trump soundbite.


Cuz Trump is the first rich and powerful man to cheat on his wife...
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NinjaBreakfast
09/13/19 3:47:05 AM
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De Evolution posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
what ever happened to "what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas?"


Women don't respect male sexuality.

They don't get that a man has a very strong and deep biological urge to sleep with other women.

Women cheat for emotional purposes on average while men cheat for sexual satisfaction on average so they think when we cheat on them we don't love them or they're not good enough.

In reality, we're just different animals.

Hahaha
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knutjob
09/13/19 3:51:06 AM
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Incel logic
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Cornmuffins
09/13/19 3:53:31 AM
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What decade are you from
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De Evolution
09/13/19 3:56:24 AM
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knutjob posted...
Incel logic


The Disney lie of monogamy is the real incel logic.

Monogamy doesn't work and never has.

Here's the thing about monogamy.... It's not true monogamy if someone's cheating. It's just involuntary polyamory.

Taking that into consideration I'd argue 10-20% of relationships are truly monogamous.

It's strange to me how our culture ignores that sleeping with multiple women is hard coded into our genetic programming. It's certainly a strong behavioral drive.

Basic biology.

Cornmuffins posted...
What decade are you from


90s
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knutjob
09/13/19 4:07:47 AM
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De Evolution posted...
knutjob posted...
Incel logic


The Disney lie of monogamy is the real incel logic.

Monogamy doesn't work and never has.

Here's the thing about monogamy.... It's not true monogamy if someone's cheating. It's just involuntary polyamory.

Taking that into consideration I'd argue 10-20% of relationships are truly monogamous.

It's strange to me how our culture ignores that sleeping with multiple women is hard coded into our genetic programming. It's certainly a strong behavioral drive.

Basic biology.

Cornmuffins posted...
What decade are you from


90s


LMAO. Good one
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TheoryzC
09/13/19 4:14:24 AM
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So like...the wife gets to cheat too?
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pres_madagascar
09/13/19 4:15:00 AM
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I habe never and will never cheat. Nor will I accept it, or agree to open relationships. I don't share.

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De Evolution
09/13/19 4:17:26 AM
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TheoryzC posted...
So like...the wife gets to cheat too?


Ideally? No.

But it's on the table.

The thing is women usually don't WANT to cheat when they're in a happy relationship.

Women do experience some lack of sexual variety about 3 years after having kids with a man though.

Unlike men who are often happy emotionally but still have a strong urge to cheat, women typically cheat when they're unhappy in the relationship.

We cheat for different reasons so it doesn't quite translate. Yes "double standards" but take it up with God, evolution, science, whatever.
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De Evolution
09/13/19 4:18:11 AM
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pres_madagascar posted...
I habe never and will never cheat. Nor will I accept it, or agree to open relationships. I don't share.


How old are you and what's your longest sexually active relationship?
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pres_madagascar
09/13/19 4:18:21 AM
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De Evolution posted...
Ideally? No.

But it's on the table.

The thing is women usually don't WANT to cheat when they're in a happy relationship.

Women do experience some lack of sexual variety about 3 years after having kids with a man though.

Unlike men who are often happy emotionally but still have a strong urge to cheat, women typically cheat when they're unhappy in the relationship.

We cheat for different reasons so it doesn't quite translate. Yes "double standards" but take it up with God, evolution, science, whatever.
You do know some women cheat for sex too, right? Women like sex just as much as men do.

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NinjaBreakfast
09/13/19 4:19:06 AM
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Funny how all the evolutionary psychology broscience these oddballs propagate finds a way to excuse bad behaviour in men and simultaneously further shame women
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
09/13/19 4:19:26 AM
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The whole idea of marriage is to promise yourself to each other.

If you don't wanna do that, don't get married. Once you are together for a couple years you are have the same tax benefits as if you were married, so just do that.
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hockeybub89
09/13/19 4:19:30 AM
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You could like, not get married and never have to worry.
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NinjaBreakfast
09/13/19 4:19:59 AM
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Tc is simply biologically predisposed to repeatedly deny the holocaust, he can't help it
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pres_madagascar
09/13/19 4:20:30 AM
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NinjaBreakfast posted...
Tc is simply biologically predisposed to repeatedly deny the holocaust, he can't help it
Oh, he's one of those? Ugh


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De Evolution
09/13/19 4:20:53 AM
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pres_madagascar posted...
De Evolution posted...
Ideally? No.

But it's on the table.

The thing is women usually don't WANT to cheat when they're in a happy relationship.

Women do experience some lack of sexual variety about 3 years after having kids with a man though.

Unlike men who are often happy emotionally but still have a strong urge to cheat, women typically cheat when they're unhappy in the relationship.

We cheat for different reasons so it doesn't quite translate. Yes "double standards" but take it up with God, evolution, science, whatever.
You do know some women cheat for sex too, right? Women like sex just as much as men do.


De Evolution posted...
Women cheat for emotional purposes on average while men cheat for sexual satisfaction on average so they think when we cheat on them we don't love them or they're not good enough.


Please read for comprehension.
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De Evolution
09/13/19 4:24:15 AM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
The whole idea of marriage is to promise yourself to each other.

If you don't wanna do that, don't get married. Once you are together for a couple years you are have the same tax benefits as if you were married, so just do that.


My girlfriend doesn't believe in the legal marriage contract so I don't care about that as it was never on the table anyway.

However I do want kids and a family.

And I can promise myself to someone and still fuck women on the side. Me banging another woman every few weeks or months doesn't take away from anything I provide my woman. Unless of course I'm the idiot who actually promises monogamy or traditional marriage and therefore it's part of the agreement.

Right now I'm monogamous but I don't feel it's sustainable and would certainly never put a ring on a chick who expected me to never touch another woman as long as I lived.

Sounds like a miserable existence and explains why infidelity and cheating are so rampant in society. It's completely unnatural.
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TeaMilk
09/13/19 4:34:10 AM
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De Evolution
09/13/19 4:35:51 AM
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TeaMilk posted...
mfw biological essentialism in 2019


Liberals love using science when it comes to climate change but hate science when it's anything gender or sex related.

Ironic.

I mean you do know biology is science right?
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HighLevel
09/13/19 4:44:21 AM
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De Evolution posted...
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Women cheat for emotional purposes on average

In reality, we're just different animals.
Say that to my fbb who is a married woman
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MuayThai85
09/13/19 4:44:43 AM
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My wife is bi, before we started dating she had never dated or had sex with a guy.

I'm totally fine if she wanted to have sex with other women as long as she at least let me watch or possibly join. I am not fine with her being with another guy though.

Her best friend is coming to visit us in China on October 1st. This friend is also the first girl she started "experimenting" with. We've discussed threeways threeways before and she has said if it were to ever happen it would be with her. The girl and I have a very flirty relationship and play a fair bit of grab ass with each other (in front of my wife and she is fine with it).

Here's hoping to it finally happening. No need for a cheating "clause" if your SO is willing to share you with her friends periodically.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
09/13/19 4:46:11 AM
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De Evolution posted...
TeaMilk posted...
mfw biological essentialism in 2019


Liberals love using science when it comes to climate change but hate science when it's anything gender or sex related.

Ironic.

I mean you do know biology is science right?


That is also biology from thousands of years ago. Most likely our appendix did something thousands of years ago for our bodies. Biologically we still have it, but we've discovered it is basically pointless now.

Thousands of years ago it made sense to mate as much as possible. It helped advance our species, ensure our survival, and at a more basic level ensured more of your genetic DNA is passed on.

None of those things are biologically relevant to us anymore. It's like an appendix. Not needed anymore.

That being said, adults can do whatever they want to. Find a woman who wants a polyamorous relationship and marriage. There are plenty. Don't try to force your "biology" on someone who doesn't feel the same way.
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De Evolution
09/13/19 4:46:34 AM
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HighLevel posted...
De Evolution posted...
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Women cheat for emotional purposes on average

In reality, we're just different animals.
Say that to my fbb who is a married woman


What mental illness is it when you make a statement like "on average" and people try to refute you with a statistical outlier/anecdote?

https://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/guide/why-do-women-cheat#1
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De Evolution
09/13/19 4:48:27 AM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
That is also biology from thousands of years ago. Most likely our appendix did something thousands of years ago for our bodies. Biologically we still have it, but we've discovered it is basically pointless now.

Thousands of years ago it made sense to mate as much as possible. It helped advance our species, ensure our survival, and at a more basic level ensured more of your genetic DNA is passed on.


You clearly don't know anything about biology or evolution if you think deep seated biological drives related to sex and procreation just "go away".

Anyone who studies DNA, evolutionary psychology, or biology would laugh at the notion that a timeline as short as a few thousand years would change such a core behavioral drive.

You can believe all the Disney nonsense you want but those are just scientific facts.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
09/13/19 4:50:45 AM
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De Evolution posted...
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
De Evolution posted...
TeaMilk posted...
mfw biological essentialism in 2019


Liberals love using science when it comes to climate change but hate science when it's anything gender or sex related.

Ironic.

I mean you do know biology is science right?


That is also biology from thousands of years ago. Most likely our appendix did something thousands of years ago for our bodies. Biologically we still have it, but we've discovered it is basically pointless now.

Thousands of years ago it made sense to mate as much as possible. It helped advance our species, ensure our survival, and at a more basic level ensured more of your genetic DNA is passed on.

None of those things are biologically relevant to us anymore. It's like an appendix. Not needed anymore.

That being said, adults can do whatever they want to. Find a woman who wants a polyamorous relationship and marriage. There are plenty. Don't try to force your "biology" on someone who doesn't feel the same way.


You clearly don't know anything about biology or evolution if you think deep seated biological drives related to sex and procreation just "go away".


The need for an organ in our body has just gone away. Not like we would survive without it, it literally has no purpose.

Yeah, biologically we change. Our society is far different sexually than even 500 years ago, nevermind thousands upon thousands of years ago.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
09/13/19 4:52:31 AM
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Find the studies that support your understandings then. I am eager to see them. Cross referenced with studies that dont support your hypothesis and why you believe the scientific studies that support your thinking are superior.

I eagerly await your proof.
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De Evolution
09/13/19 4:55:05 AM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
De Evolution posted...
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
De Evolution posted...
TeaMilk posted...
mfw biological essentialism in 2019


Liberals love using science when it comes to climate change but hate science when it's anything gender or sex related.

Ironic.

I mean you do know biology is science right?


That is also biology from thousands of years ago. Most likely our appendix did something thousands of years ago for our bodies. Biologically we still have it, but we've discovered it is basically pointless now.

Thousands of years ago it made sense to mate as much as possible. It helped advance our species, ensure our survival, and at a more basic level ensured more of your genetic DNA is passed on.

None of those things are biologically relevant to us anymore. It's like an appendix. Not needed anymore.

That being said, adults can do whatever they want to. Find a woman who wants a polyamorous relationship and marriage. There are plenty. Don't try to force your "biology" on someone who doesn't feel the same way.


You clearly don't know anything about biology or evolution if you think deep seated biological drives related to sex and procreation just "go away".


The need for an organ in our body has just gone away. Not like we would survive without it, it literally has no purpose.

Yeah, biologically we change. Our society is far different sexually than even 500 years ago, nevermind thousands upon thousands of years ago.


I'm sorry Jeff but you comparing the existence and utility of the appendix to the human sex drive is beyond fucking stupid and anyone more well versed in science could easily go into that....

The drive to procreate is one of the strongest biological drives in any living creature.... And the appendix is still in our body when we're born because of hundreds of thousands (not thousands) of years of evolution.

Not to mention your comment on society being sexually different is a meaningless statement because society and cultures change irrespective of biology.
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DDirtyDastard
09/13/19 4:58:53 AM
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She'll be the one cheating on you
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De Evolution
09/13/19 4:59:27 AM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Find the studies that support your understandings then. I am eager to see them. Cross referenced with studies that dont support your hypothesis and why you believe the scientific studies that support your thinking are superior.

I eagerly await your proof.


Why don't you find some studies to support your claim that the appendix is equivalent to the human sex drive?

Or this weird idea that 500 years ago or even a few thousand years ago the appendix had a use, when you would have to go WAY farther back.

You produced these claims first so you produce some evidence for this nonsense.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
09/13/19 5:15:24 AM
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De Evolution posted...
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Find the studies that support your understandings then. I am eager to see them. Cross referenced with studies that dont support your hypothesis and why you believe the scientific studies that support your thinking are superior.

I eagerly await your proof.


Why don't you find some studies to support your claim that the appendix is equivalent to the human sex drive?

Or this weird idea that 500 years ago or even a few thousand years ago the appendix had a use, when you would have to go WAY farther back.

You produced these claims first so you produce some evidence for this nonsense.


You made your claim about the biological sexual drive of men as part of your initial post. I've yet to see any sort of evidence to support this claim.

But then again, I don't expect you to. You're a fun character, but ultimately I've seen far better on the boards.
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De Evolution
09/13/19 5:20:40 AM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
De Evolution posted...
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Find the studies that support your understandings then. I am eager to see them. Cross referenced with studies that dont support your hypothesis and why you believe the scientific studies that support your thinking are superior.

I eagerly await your proof.


Why don't you find some studies to support your claim that the appendix is equivalent to the human sex drive?

Or this weird idea that 500 years ago or even a few thousand years ago the appendix had a use, when you would have to go WAY farther back.

You produced these claims first so you produce some evidence for this nonsense.


You made your claim about the biological sexual drive of men as part of your initial post. I've yet to see any sort of evidence to support this claim.

But then again, I don't expect you to. You're a fun character, but ultimately I've seen far better on the boards.


https://www.webmd.com/sex/features/sex-drive-how-do-men-women-compare#1

https://www.forbes.com/sites/adambarsouk/2018/10/05/evolution-may-explain-why-men-are-more-likely-to-cheat/#456b5b3bb1ae

https://people.com/archive/why-are-men-more-promiscuous-its-in-the-genes-says-a-psychologist-vol-12-no-17/

Lot more where that came from... You people act like this is some new idea I'm presenting.

Guess you never heard of Charles Darwin.

I mean for someone who claims to respect science you should be embarrassed. It's like you have an ideological aversion to the truth because of your personal feelings about sex and marriage.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
09/13/19 5:27:59 AM
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TheoryzC
09/13/19 5:28:47 AM
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Lmaooo. This whole shit is hilarious

"SCIENCE says I'm predisposed to cheating!"

Ok sure...

"What if I wanna cheat too?"

"Noooooo. SCIENCE says I have a higher sex drive than you so that means it's NOT ok and I won't stand for it!"
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De Evolution
09/13/19 5:29:23 AM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
https://theconversation.com/data-should-smash-the-biological-myth-of-promiscuous-males-and-sexually-coy-females-59665

https://www.pnas.org/content/109/25/9923

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00224499.2016.1150938

The findings of Charles Darwin and Bateman have been found to not have sufficient data to confirm their claims for quite awhile.


You didn't read the links I posted. They don't rely on Charles Darwin.

Try again buddy.
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De Evolution
09/13/19 5:30:08 AM
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TheoryzC posted...
Lmaooo. This whole shit is hilarious

"SCIENCE says I'm predisposed to cheating!"

Ok sure...

"What if I wanna cheat too?"

"Noooooo. SCIENCE says I have a higher sex drive than you so that means it's NOT ok and I won't stand for it!"


Who said that? Weird straw man when I said it'd have to be on the table for the woman as well.

Fucking clown.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
09/13/19 5:38:49 AM
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Your first link literally says,

We have come a long way from our primal ancestors on the African Savannah. Just as the majority of us have evolved to value monogamy, bodily autonomy, and empathy, so too can we teach ourselves to overcome even our most hard-wired sexual impulses.

Literally what I said earlier in the topic. Yeah, a long time ago there was a biological benefit to being polygamous. That biological benefit doesn't really exist in our society anymore.

Your second link is more about libido versus mate choice. On the whole men have more direct libido. Just because you have a stronger libido doesn't mean that you are biologically wired to "cheat". It means you more likely want to have more sex on average than women do.

Your last link is from 1979, and again states, Just because we have various instinctive propensities doesnt mean we have to act on all of them. Our system of ethics should, and does, exert controls on how we behave.
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treewojima
09/13/19 5:42:29 AM
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this is a FUCKING topic
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De Evolution
09/13/19 5:43:23 AM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Your first link literally says,

We have come a long way from our primal ancestors on the African Savannah. Just as the majority of us have evolved to value monogamy, bodily autonomy, and empathy, so too can we teach ourselves to overcome even our most hard-wired sexual impulses.

Literally what I said earlier in the topic. Yeah, a long time ago there was a biological benefit to being polygamous. That biological benefit doesn't really exist in our society anymore.

Your second link is more about libido versus mate choice. On the whole men have more direct libido. Just because you have a stronger libido doesn't mean that you are biologically wired to "cheat". It means you more likely want to have more sex on average than women do.

Your last link is from 1979, and again states, Just because we have various instinctive propensities doesnt mean we have to act on all of them. Our system of ethics should, and does, exert controls on how we behave.


And your refutations are straw men.

I never said there was a biological "benefit" to anything. Only that we're as men, hard-wired to want to bang multiple women. I'm not talking about societal "values" I'm talking about humans biology.

I also never once spoke about ethics or whether or not they should be acted on.

Promiscuity differs by gender. This is a fact.

https://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/features/promiscuity-differs-by-gender#1
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