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AlCalavicci 09/12/19 11:51:29 AM #1:	Can a rapist redeem themselves? - Results (9 votes) Yes 44.44% (4 votes) 4 No 55.56% (5 votes) 5 What I mean is- are there any actions a convicted rapist can take to redeem themselves in their lives to somehow be forgiven for their actions in a public sense? Take Brock Turner as an example, but not necessarily specifically him. If someone who was as big in the news for the crime he committed, took actions to dedicate his/her life to helping women who suffered from rape, actions to prevent rape, etc, in an effort to admit his/her mistakes and do good in this world. Do you think that would redeem that person? Or would they forever be in the shadow of the horrible crime they committed for the rest of their life no matter what actions and efforts they take in their life ? Just curious, and this topic was partly inspired by a tv show --- http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111123223446/simpsons/images/9/99/K.png I didn't even give you my coat! <cite>AlCalavicci posted [p:927335298] in Do you thi... [t:78008042]...</cite> <quote> Can a rapist redeem themselves? - Results (9 votes) Yes 44.44% (4 votes) 4 No 55.56% (5 votes) 5 What I mean is- are there any actions a convicted rapist can take to redeem themselves in their lives to somehow be forgiven for their actions in a public sense? Take Brock Turner as an example, but not necessarily specifically him. If someone who was as big in the news for the crime he committed, took actions to dedicate his/her life to helping women who suffered from rape, actions to prevent rape, etc, in an effort to admit his/her mistakes and do good in this world. Do you think that would redeem that person? Or would they forever be in the shadow of the horrible crime they committed for the rest of their life no matter what actions and efforts they take in their life ? Just curious, and this topic was partly inspired by a tv show </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nazanir 09/12/19 12:01:14 PM #2:	I feel so, the whole idea about prison and everything surrounding it, is rehabilitation. If we are unable to accept this premise, then what is the point? I do believe someone can regret their actions, and work towards bettering their life. But given that we are ready to completely ruin a person's life over a simple allegation, without considering the consequences and without giving someone a chance to prove their innocence, let alone redeem themselves, I feel that in the current society no one will be given room to redeem themselves. --- XboX GT/Steam/Wii-U - Nazanir <cite>Nazanir posted [p:927335671] in Do you thi... [t:78008042]...</cite> <quote>I feel so, the whole idea about prison and everything surrounding it, is rehabilitation. If we are unable to accept this premise, then what is the point? I do believe someone can regret their actions, and work towards bettering their life. But given that we are ready to completely ruin a person's life over a simple allegation, without considering the consequences and without giving someone a chance to prove their innocence, let alone redeem themselves, I feel that in the current society no one will be given room to redeem themselves.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 09/12/19 12:04:32 PM #3:	I think it's possible, sure. But how many rapists do you see dedicating themselves to making such amends? Even just sincerely regretting your actions don't change you did them, you'd need to make an actual effort to put some good back into the world. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:927335805] in Do you thi... [t:78008042]...</cite> <quote>I think it's possible, sure. But how many rapists do you see dedicating themselves to making such amends? Even just sincerely regretting your actions don't change you did them, you'd need to make an actual effort to put some good back into the world.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IloveJesus 09/12/19 12:05:28 PM #4:	Nazanir posted... I feel so, the whole idea about prison and everything surrounding it, is rehabilitation. If we are unable to accept this premise, then what is the point? I do believe someone can regret their actions, and work towards bettering their life. But given that we are ready to completely ruin a person's life over a simple allegation, without considering the consequences and without giving someone a chance to prove their innocence, let alone redeem themselves, I feel that in the current society no one will be given room to redeem themselves. Rehabilitation and redemption are not the same thing. --- Jesus loves us. It only seems fair to love him back. <cite>IloveJesus posted [p:927335845] in Do you thi... [t:78008042]...</cite> <quote>Nazanir posted... </cite> <quote>I feel so, the whole idea about prison and everything surrounding it, is rehabilitation. If we are unable to accept this premise, then what is the point? I do believe someone can regret their actions, and work towards bettering their life. But given that we are ready to completely ruin a person's life over a simple allegation, without considering the consequences and without giving someone a chance to prove their innocence, let alone redeem themselves, I feel that in the current society no one will be given room to redeem themselves.</quote> Rehabilitation and redemption are not the same thing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nazanir 09/12/19 12:09:39 PM #5:	IloveJesus posted... Nazanir posted... I feel so, the whole idea about prison and everything surrounding it, is rehabilitation. If we are unable to accept this premise, then what is the point? I do believe someone can regret their actions, and work towards bettering their life. But given that we are ready to completely ruin a person's life over a simple allegation, without considering the consequences and without giving someone a chance to prove their innocence, let alone redeem themselves, I feel that in the current society no one will be given room to redeem themselves. Rehabilitation and redemption are not the same thing. They should be though. --- XboX GT/Steam/Wii-U - Nazanir <cite>Nazanir posted [p:927336011] in Do you thi... [t:78008042]...</cite> <quote>IloveJesus posted...</cite> <quote>Nazanir posted... </cite> <quote>I feel so, the whole idea about prison and everything surrounding it, is rehabilitation. If we are unable to accept this premise, then what is the point? I do believe someone can regret their actions, and work towards bettering their life. But given that we are ready to completely ruin a person's life over a simple allegation, without considering the consequences and without giving someone a chance to prove their innocence, let alone redeem themselves, I feel that in the current society no one will be given room to redeem themselves.</quote> Rehabilitation and redemption are not the same thing. </quote> They should be though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 09/12/19 12:10:37 PM #6:	Nazanir posted... the whole idea about prison and everything surrounding it, is rehabilitation I mean, is it though? --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:927336053] in Do you thi... [t:78008042]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nazanir posted...</cite> <quote>the whole idea about prison and everything surrounding it, is rehabilitation</quote> I mean, is it though?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nazanir 09/12/19 12:15:54 PM #7:	Smashingpmkns posted... Nazanir posted... the whole idea about prison and everything surrounding it, is rehabilitation I mean, is it though? Honestly, I am speaking from my experience from my country, the Netherlands, there seem to be huge differences between the criminal system here and the US. --- XboX GT/Steam/Wii-U - Nazanir <cite>Nazanir posted [p:927336283] in Do you thi... [t:78008042]...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nazanir posted...</cite> <quote>the whole idea about prison and everything surrounding it, is rehabilitation</quote> I mean, is it though?</quote> Honestly, I am speaking from my experience from my country, the Netherlands, there seem to be huge differences between the criminal system here and the US.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Musourenka 09/12/19 12:19:10 PM #8:	Nazanir posted... Smashingpmkns posted... Nazanir posted... the whole idea about prison and everything surrounding it, is rehabilitation I mean, is it though? Honestly, I am speaking from my experience from my country, the Netherlands, there seem to be huge differences between the criminal system here and the US. Ideally, it should be about rehabilitation. In the US, the system is more about vengeance and shaming. --- Shooing away pigeons crapping on debate tables is not a violation of the pigeons' free speech. <cite>Musourenka posted [p:927336427] in Do you thi... [t:78008042]...</cite> <quote>Nazanir posted...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nazanir posted...</cite> <quote>the whole idea about prison and everything surrounding it, is rehabilitation</quote> I mean, is it though?</quote> Honestly, I am speaking from my experience from my country, the Netherlands, there seem to be huge differences between the criminal system here and the US.</quote> Ideally, it should be about rehabilitation. In the US, the system is more about vengeance and shaming.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sada_Pop 09/12/19 12:19:44 PM #9:	Musourenka posted... Nazanir posted... Smashingpmkns posted... Nazanir posted... the whole idea about prison and everything surrounding it, is rehabilitation I mean, is it though? Honestly, I am speaking from my experience from my country, the Netherlands, there seem to be huge differences between the criminal system here and the US. Ideally, it should be about rehabilitation. In the US, the system is more about vengeance and shaming. It's about money. --- People would have you believe that the accusation of racism is more offensive than ACTUAL racism. <cite>Sada_Pop posted [p:927336456] in Do you thi... [t:78008042]...</cite> <quote>Musourenka posted...</cite> <quote>Nazanir posted...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nazanir posted...</cite> <quote>the whole idea about prison and everything surrounding it, is rehabilitation</quote> I mean, is it though?</quote> Honestly, I am speaking from my experience from my country, the Netherlands, there seem to be huge differences between the criminal system here and the US.</quote> Ideally, it should be about rehabilitation. In the US, the system is more about vengeance and shaming.</quote> It's about money.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Musourenka 09/12/19 12:20:21 PM #10:	^ That too. --- Shooing away pigeons crapping on debate tables is not a violation of the pigeons' free speech. <cite>Musourenka posted [p:927336478] in Do you thi... [t:78008042]...</cite> <quote>^ That too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NinjaBreakfast 09/12/19 12:21:16 PM #11:	I am definitely open to the idea and I think resistance to it is contrary to otherwise being pro-rehabilitation when it comes to crime. That said, I can see why it is an emotive topic and is something that many are uneasy with. I also think many rapists and abusers have shown little remorse following convictions and this quite rightly riles people up. --- https://imgur.com/nGZeEqw Do you really think you can beat me? <cite>NinjaBreakfast posted [p:927336517] in Do you thi... [t:78008042]...</cite> <quote>I am definitely open to the idea and I think resistance to it is contrary to otherwise being pro-rehabilitation when it comes to crime. That said, I can see why it is an emotive topic and is something that many are uneasy with. I also think many rapists and abusers have shown little remorse following convictions and this quite rightly riles people up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IloveJesus 09/12/19 1:32:25 PM #12:	Nazanir posted... They should be though. I disagree. --- Jesus loves us. It only seems fair to love him back. <cite>IloveJesus posted [p:927339529] in Do you thi... [t:78008042]...</cite> <quote>Nazanir posted... </cite> <quote>They should be though.</quote> I disagree. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 09/12/19 1:34:23 PM #13:	I believe only a small % of crimes are irredeemable, and not because they're inherently irredeemable crimes but because the human lifespan isn't long enough for the crime to be made up a single rape is far from something I'd call irredeemable. I wouldn't even call a single murder that --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:927339616] in Do you thi... [t:78008042]...</cite> <quote>I believe only a small % of crimes are irredeemable, and not because they're inherently irredeemable crimes but because the human lifespan isn't long enough for the crime to be made up a single rape is far from something I'd call irredeemable. I wouldn't even call a single murder that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 09/12/19 1:48:02 PM #14:	A lot more than murder can, at any rate. --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:927340180] in Do you thi... [t:78008042]...</cite> <quote>A lot more than murder can, at any rate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sad_Face 09/12/19 1:50:36 PM #15:	For the benefit of society as a while, you have to give crime committers a chance to redeem themselves and treat them as humans. --- imgtc.com/i/4HgTl0ebzq.jpg imgtc.com/i/60CWP2Gtlg.gif <cite>Sad_Face posted [p:927340288] in Do you thi... [t:78008042]...</cite> <quote>For the benefit of society as a while, you have to give crime committers a chance to redeem themselves and treat them as humans.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheDreadedWave 09/12/19 1:51:29 PM #16:	Should be pushed off a bridge --- "I am Ferdinand Von Aegir" - Ferdinand Von Aegir <cite>TheDreadedWave posted [p:927340330] in Do you thi... [t:78008042]...</cite> <quote>Should be pushed off a bridge</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Wheelman1 09/12/19 1:58:13 PM #17:	We can forgive but we will never forget. --- XBox Live GT: MastaMez PSN: KoolMez The Topic Killer \_0_/ <cite>The Wheelman1 posted [p:927340594] in Do you thi... [t:78008042]...</cite> <quote>We can forgive but we will never forget.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IloveJesus 09/12/19 3:46:40 PM #18:	Sad_Face posted... For the benefit of society as a while, you have to give crime committers a chance to redeem themselves and treat them as humans. I wouldn't suggest otherwise. The opportunity for rehabilitation is incredibly important. However, I would argue that some crimes are beyond redemption. Rehabilitation is the best we can hope for in those cases. --- Jesus loves us. It only seems fair to love him back. <cite>IloveJesus posted [p:927345331] in Do you thi... [t:78008042]...</cite> <quote>Sad_Face posted... </cite> <quote>For the benefit of society as a while, you have to give crime committers a chance to redeem themselves and treat them as humans.</quote> I wouldn't suggest otherwise. The opportunity for rehabilitation is incredibly important. However, I would argue that some crimes are beyond redemption. Rehabilitation is the best we can hope for in those cases. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vigorm0rtis 09/12/19 3:47:32 PM #19:	Inasmuch as redemption is actually a thing... sure, why not? --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 <cite>vigorm0rtis posted [p:927345358] in Do you thi... [t:78008042]...</cite> <quote>Inasmuch as redemption is actually a thing... sure, why not?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 09/12/19 3:54:31 PM #20:	I imagine it depends on the severity of the rape and how much remorse the rapist has and how they try to make amends. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac/wishlist/ <cite>Esrac posted [p:927345630] in Do you thi... [t:78008042]...</cite> <quote>I imagine it depends on the severity of the rape and how much remorse the rapist has and how they try to make amends.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 09/12/19 3:57:12 PM #21:	The world has accepted Mike Tyson back --- The words of The Golden Eel have been revealed... Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:927345732] in Do you thi... [t:78008042]...</cite> <quote>The world has accepted Mike Tyson back </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlCalavicci 09/12/19 4:31:44 PM #22:	Pretty close as far as the voting goes --- http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111123223446/simpsons/images/9/99/K.png I didn't even give you my coat! <cite>AlCalavicci posted [p:927347280] in Do you thi... [t:78008042]...</cite> <quote>Pretty close as far as the voting goes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 09/12/19 4:33:56 PM #23:	Sure. Some people will never forgive them but that's just the way it is --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:927347386] in Do you thi... [t:78008042]...</cite> <quote>Sure. Some people will never forgive them but that's just the way it is</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 09/12/19 4:35:01 PM #24:	No, and neither can any other sinner. This is why we need Jesus. --- 53 LIII 0b110101 p16 0x35 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:927347435] in Do you thi... [t:78008042]...</cite> <quote>No, and neither can any other sinner. This is why we need Jesus.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Karate_II 09/12/19 4:37:58 PM #25:	No --- Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4 Mercenaries Mode,Resident Evil 6 Mercenaries Mode & Call of Duty Ghosts <cite>Mr_Karate_II posted [p:927347551] in Do you thi... [t:78008042]...</cite> <quote>No</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 09/12/19 4:48:49 PM #27:	Mr_Karate_II @Mr_Karate_II --- 53 LIII 0b110101 p16 0x35 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:927348012] in Do you thi... [t:78008042]...</cite> <quote>Mr_Karate_II @Mr_Karate_II</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HollowKnail 09/12/19 5:17:11 PM #28:	No, I do not think so. Something like that never goes away with time. <cite>HollowKnail posted [p:927349232] in Do you thi... [t:78008042]...</cite> <quote>No, I do not think so. Something like that never goes away with time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Flockaveli 09/12/19 5:23:09 PM #29:	Everyone loves 2Pac. --- I'm in Chicago, I'm shaking my head. <cite>Flockaveli posted [p:927349447] in Do you thi... [t:78008042]...</cite> <quote>Everyone loves 2Pac.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Knowledge_King 09/12/19 5:28:18 PM #30:	Like hold someone down and violently rape them rapist? No. --- Thief's Theme: GEbA Legacy Award for Best Fiction, Next Generation Indie Award for Best E-book Fiction: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1726713040 <cite>Knowledge_King posted [p:927349655] in Do you thi... [t:78008042]...</cite> <quote>Like hold someone down and violently rape them rapist? No.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NobleWill8 09/12/19 10:07:40 PM #31:	DevsBro posted... No, and neither can any other sinner. This is why we need Jesus. Dang, I couldn't leave the topic without quoting this. --- tfw when you don't have an idea for your sig seriously people, gimme a quote, I'm actually desperate <cite>NobleWill8 posted [p:927361614] in Do you thi... [t:78008042]...</cite> <quote>DevsBro posted...</cite> <quote>No, and neither can any other sinner. This is why we need Jesus.</quote> Dang, I couldn't leave the topic without quoting this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
inloveanddeath0 09/12/19 10:10:27 PM #32:	TheDreadedWave posted... Should be pushed off a bridge Because they're all the same right? --- http://www.last.fm/user/PolarPolaroids <cite>inloveanddeath0 posted [p:927361739] in Do you thi... [t:78008042]...</cite> <quote>TheDreadedWave posted... </cite> <quote>Should be pushed off a bridge</quote>Because they're all the same right? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 09/12/19 10:10:58 PM #33:	They themselves can become a better person and evolve, but it's unlikely the majority of people will simply forgive their crime. <cite>nemu posted [p:927361757] in Do you thi... [t:78008042]...</cite> <quote>They themselves can become a better person and evolve, but it's unlikely the majority of people will simply forgive their crime. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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