Current Events > Dave Chappelle: Your body, your choice. My money, my choice

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toyota
08/28/19 6:31:41 AM
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Does he have a point that if women decide to have an abortion then its only fair that a dude can abandon it and not be expected to pay child support if he didnt want the baby. ie. somehow legally relinquish parental rights before the baby is born.
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Blue_Dream87
08/28/19 6:34:05 AM
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I see both arguments. Leaning on has to pay because the issue is of body autonomy, not financial

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Kolibri X
08/28/19 6:35:35 AM
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No, you can't just make a baby then act like you didn't (unless you're a woman.)

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Malfunction
08/28/19 6:36:20 AM
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Another bad faith topic from tc about a plainly stupid contention
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EffectAndCause
08/28/19 6:43:43 AM
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He is a comedian who was making a joke.
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BilalPowell
08/28/19 6:44:05 AM
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We dont get to choose what we do with our money. Taxes exist.
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Dragonblade01
08/28/19 7:28:01 AM
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He's making a joke.

As for the question, they are two separate issues with two separate answers. In general I'm for both as an idea, though the latter needs more carefully worded legislation.
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Duncanwii
08/28/19 7:31:34 AM
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Dragonblade01 posted...
He's making a joke.

Well it isnt a funny thing to joke about tbh.
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gmanthebest
08/28/19 7:32:51 AM
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Takes 2 to tango. If you didn't want to pay child support, you should've used protection
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cjsdowg
08/28/19 7:41:27 AM
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gmanthebest posted...
Takes 2 to tango. If you didn't want to pay child support, you should've used protection


That sounds like the stuff pro-life ppl say to women.
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Ilishe
08/28/19 7:49:15 AM
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I think a man should be able to give up parental rights and obligations once he is legally informed of his future parenthood and that a woman can choose to have an abortion or keep the baby. If she does choose an abortion the cost should be split between the two.
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Rika_Furude
08/28/19 7:51:43 AM
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only the womans opinion matters the man is just cattle not fit to speak

gamefaqs posters
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tennisdude818
08/28/19 8:06:55 AM
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Ive made the same argument here numerous times. Leftists reject it because they dont take property rights seriously due to the fact that their political ideology is based on taking stuff that isnt theirs.
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nemu
08/28/19 8:07:14 AM
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Though it's a joke, this is a fairly common talking point. I don't really think it's an equivalence. If the child is brought into the world, both parents have a duty to care for it unless parental rights are removed. The woman, carrying it for close to a year, has the right to do with it as she wishes due to having that burden.
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Kolibri X
08/28/19 8:10:16 AM
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JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
Cause thats 100% effective.
Yeah only 99%.

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gmanthebest
08/28/19 8:20:22 AM
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JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
gmanthebest posted...
Takes 2 to tango. If you didn't want to pay child support, you should've used protection


Cause thats 100% effective.

Doesn't matter. If a woman chooses to have the baby, the baby deserves to have a proper upbringing.
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StealthRock
08/28/19 8:42:56 AM
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gmanthebest posted...
Takes 2 to tango. If you didn't want to pay child support, you should've used protection

Man i wish people would realize how screwed up statements like this are

Your literally saying that there is some sort of equality in this scenario when there is not. Women have much more control over sex and when they get pregnant than men ever will. And yet women have every way out of the scenario with no reprocussions or judgement. And mens only way out is jail or to forfit all rights to even see the child.

If a woman is allow to kill said child that "took two to tango" and make. Then a man should be able to withhold his child support at any time without the courts jailing him for it.
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eston
08/28/19 8:45:45 AM
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When did Dave Chapelle start using shitty CE arguments as jokes
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Dragonblade01
08/28/19 8:49:02 AM
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Duncanwii posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
He's making a joke.

Well it isnt a funny thing to joke about tbh.

Nah it was pretty funny.
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Frolex
08/28/19 8:55:33 AM
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StealthRock posted...
Your literally saying that there is some sort of equality in this scenario when there is not.


You're right, there's not. Only one person is actually carrying the child.

If a woman is allow to kill said child that "took two to tango" and make.


women aren't allowed to kill children.
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lolife67
08/28/19 8:56:15 AM
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It was part of a joke but it's a dumb argument to make.
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StealthRock
08/28/19 9:01:11 AM
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Frolex posted...
StealthRock posted...
Your literally saying that there is some sort of equality in this scenario when there is not.


You're right, there's not. Only one person is actually carrying the child.

If a woman is allow to kill said child that "took two to tango" and make.


women aren't allowed to kill children.

Exactly. So if the men dont share the burden then they shouldnt be accountable for the pregnacy right??

What amount of money can make up for that right??

And i gues youve never heard of abortion? But you also clearly didnt read my whole post so im not surpised
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MudKip_Master
08/28/19 9:03:06 AM
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Malfunction posted...
Another bad faith topic from tc about a plainly stupid contention


You respond in this fashion a lot.
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Frolex
08/28/19 9:03:18 AM
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StealthRock posted...
Exactly. So if the men dont share the burden then they shouldnt be accountable for the pregnacy right??


Men aren't required to pay the costs of pregnancy. Not as far as I'm aware anyway

And i gues youve never heard of abortion? But you also clearly didnt read my whole post so im not surpised


I did. Women Aren't allowed to kill children.
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Dragonblade01
08/28/19 9:08:22 AM
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The two issues aren't actually related. Whether women should be allowed to get abortions and whether parents should be allowed to relinquish parental status revolve around separate arguments.
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Notti
08/28/19 9:16:44 AM
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Money = Baby's life.

But we all know it's Money > Baby's life is the lesson that they want to teach.
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biggernails
08/28/19 9:39:29 AM
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toyota posted...
its only fair that a dude can abandon it and not be expected to pay child support if he didnt want the baby

nah
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gmanthebest
08/28/19 11:07:13 AM
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StealthRock posted...
gmanthebest posted...
Takes 2 to tango. If you didn't want to pay child support, you should've used protection

Verbal diarrhea

Whatever. Baby's life shouldn't suffer because you don't want to take responsibility for a life you created.
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TheBlueMonk_
08/28/19 11:08:07 AM
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why are you taking a joke he made and asking about it as if it was a serious opinion he said?

whats next, you gonna ask if he really is chinese on the inside?
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Trickfinger
08/28/19 11:26:12 AM
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I hate when people try to take jokes from famous comedians and use them as credence. you're supposed to laugh for like 5 seconds, after that reality kicks back in and you realize the guy wasn't being serious

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FrozenXylophone
08/28/19 11:27:50 AM
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Kolibri X posted...
No, you can't just make a baby then act like you didn't (unless you're a woman.)


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Prismsblade
08/28/19 11:40:29 AM
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gmanthebest posted...
JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
gmanthebest posted...
Takes 2 to tango. If you didn't want to pay child support, you should've used protection


Cause thats 100% effective.

Doesn't matter. If a woman chooses to have the baby, the baby deserves to have a proper upbringing.

Which is only possible with a father who actually wanted them, wants to be a part of their life and is able to provide for them.
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KrayzieBonezz
08/28/19 11:42:07 AM
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Duncanwii posted...
Well it isnt a funny thing to joke about tbh.
The thing you and many other people will never understand is that any and everything can be funny.

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StealthRock
08/28/19 3:24:42 PM
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gmanthebest posted...
StealthRock posted...
gmanthebest posted...
Takes 2 to tango. If you didn't want to pay child support, you should've used protection

Verbal diarrhea

Derp


Whatever. The baby shouldnt suffer because the woman decided to force an unfit man into parenthood.

The greatest gift a woman can give a child is chosing a loving father for it. Getting knocked up by the first bum (again, which women more often than not control and should honestly be much more wary for) is not doing you or your child any justice

If you honestly think the child support system is fine as is then i im honestly sorry for you. Hopefully you gey spared of its nonsense.
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StealthRock
08/28/19 3:25:50 PM
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Frolex posted...
StealthRock posted...
Exactly. So if the men dont share the burden then they shouldnt be accountable for the pregnacy right??


Men aren't required to pay the costs of pregnancy. Not as far as I'm aware anyway

And i gues youve never heard of abortion? But you also clearly didnt read my whole post so im not surpised


I did. Women Aren't allowed to kill children.

You didnt

You were probably too busy paying child support for a baby you didnt want
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Frolex
08/28/19 5:02:17 PM
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StealthRock posted...
You didnt

You were probably too busy paying child support for a baby you didnt want


I mean, I guess that technically counts as an insult? A for effort for sure.
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BeantownHero
08/28/19 5:11:34 PM
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Dude has done a bit on why it's ok to pee on a 13 year old, this is nothing lol

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Quicksilver
08/28/19 5:15:09 PM
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If you don't want a baby just don't have sex why is this so hard for people. Actions have consequences and if you think you can just get a woman pregnant and walk away you are an irresponsible jerk.

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coh
08/28/19 5:16:02 PM
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Quicksilver posted...
If you don't want a baby just don't have sex why is this so hard for people. Actions have consequences and if you think you can just get a woman pregnant and walk away you are an irresponsible jerk.
Works both ways. It's irresponsible to abort a baby also
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sktgamer_13dude
08/28/19 5:17:08 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
He's making a joke.

Well it isnt a funny thing to joke about tbh.

Yes, we know you dont understand anything.
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Cleo_II
08/28/19 5:36:26 PM
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If men dont want to pay for a child they dont want, they should wrap it up. It amazes me how so many men view birth control as a woman thing and then whine about the consequences after.
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gmanthebest
08/28/19 6:02:33 PM
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Cleo_II posted...
If men dont want to pay for a child they dont want, they should wrap it up. It amazes me how so many men view birth control as a woman thing and then whine about the consequences after.

Pretty much. Then you have the uneducated spouting verbal diarrhea about not wanting to take responsibility for a life they helped make.
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Trickfinger
08/28/19 7:25:43 PM
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guys that dont take care of children theyve created have to be the lowest form of scum. and yes I'm singling out guys because the ratio of deadbeat dads to moms I see is like 4:1.

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Ryo_the_Inferno
08/28/19 7:47:42 PM
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Trickfinger posted...
guys that dont take care of children theyve created have to be the lowest form of scum. and yes I'm singling out guys because the ratio of deadbeat dads to moms I see is like 4:1.

Deadbeat dads don't pay for their kids, deadbeat moms don't let them live.
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Trickfinger
08/28/19 7:52:00 PM
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I guess you guys know a plethora of women that are having abortions.

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Bad_Mojo
08/28/19 7:52:08 PM
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Oh, it was an abortion joke that people got worked up over? When I read the topic title I thought it was a fat joke, lol. Like, you can be fat, but don't judge me if I think you're ugly

Still a stupid thing to get riled up over, imo

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tennisdude818
08/28/19 7:52:11 PM
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Trickfinger posted...
guys that dont take care of children theyve created have to be the lowest form of scum. and yes I'm singling out guys because the ratio of deadbeat dads to moms I see is like 4:1.


Are women not responsible for who they choose to have unprotected sex with?
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Trickfinger
08/28/19 7:53:22 PM
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tennisdude818 posted...
Are women not responsible for who they choose to have unprotected sex with?
is that what I said?

imagine being a man trying to use this dumb logic.

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