Current Events > The Men Who Call Themselves Non-Offending Pedophiles

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this is getting an uncomfortable amount of support

Is this about that MAP shit?
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Yeah, no. We aren't going to normalize this, and the day we do is the day I move out of this country.
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I'm for people not wanting to instantly lynch people who legitimately want to seek out mental help to control their disgusting urges, but these fuckers want to make it just another sexuality. They deserve no public sympathy at all.

puppy posted...

Yeah, no. We aren't going to normalize this, and the day we do is the day I move out of this country.

To where, exactly?

We are concerned.
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puppy posted...

Yeah, no. We aren't going to normalize this, and the day we do is the day I move out of this country.

It's already normalized. Law only cares about behavior.

Tldw

Well these people exist and there isn't exactly a cure. Brave of them to come out like that. Still not letting them near my kids.

-Cipher- posted...

puppy posted...

Yeah, no. We aren't going to normalize this, and the day we do is the day I move out of this country.

To where, exactly?

Out.

Does it matter? Imagine living in a country where pedophiles aren't shamed, but accepted and told that their behavior is okay as long as they don't live it out. Imagine saying it is okay to imagine sexualizing a child. That sentence alone is just...my God...

I'm just saying is that if they put a P on LGBTQ, then I'm checking out of this joint.
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I didn't watch the whole video, but isn't this basically about people who have sexual ideation about children and they recognize that it's wrong so they are seeking help?

What's wrong with that? I would rather them seek help before they actually do abuse a child.

I mean, these people are going to exist no matter what. Wouldn't you rather them seek help? Or you want them to just keep silent until they eventually act on their desires?

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nemu posted...

I'm for people not wanting to instantly lynch people who legitimately want to seek out mental help to control their disgusting urges, but these fuckers want to make it just another sexuality. They deserve no public sympathy at all.

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lgbtqp
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puppy posted...

Yeah, no. We aren't going to normalize this, and the day we do is the day I move out of this country.

Normalize what? Treating people with a mental illness that disposes them towards illegal behaviour so that they hopefully dont act on those impulses?
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Dyinglegacy posted...

I didn't watch the whole video, but isn't this basically about people who have sexual ideation about children and they recognize that it's wrong so they are seeking help?

What's wrong with that? I would rather them seek help before they actually do abuse a child.

I mean, these people are going to exist no matter what. Wouldn't you rather them seek help? Or you want them to just keep silent until they eventually act on their desires?

I don't know about the ones in this video in particular, but these people usually try to sneak into the LBGT circle and list disgusting shit like their "age range of attraction" in their Twitter profiles.

puppy posted...

Does it matter? Imagine living in a country where pedophiles aren't shamed, but accepted and told that their behavior is okay as long as they don't live it out. Imagine saying it is okay to imagine sexualizing a child. That sentence alone is just...my God...

I mean you're not going to find much different anywhere else unless you move to an even more conservative country which generally means either a 3rd world central/south American country or a tiny western European country

It seems like no one actually watched the video and are instead knee jerking to the clickbait title so for the people who are too lazy to watch heres the description

Non-offending pedophile is a term used to describe an adult who is attracted to children but has never acted on those feelings with a child.

David, a 21-year-old college student in the United States, knows he is attracted to children between the ages of 4 and 11. Hes one of many pedophiles who knows it is wrong, but believes he was born this way, and that with treatment those urges can be controlled.

But to get that help, people like David have to seek it. And in the United States, that comes with huge risk due to mandatory reporting laws that require therapists to report people they deem a risk to children to the police.

Elizabeth Letourneau, director of the Moore Center for the Prevention of Child Sex Abuse, is one of few researchers in the U.S is focusing on preventative measures to help pedophiles.

Even if you've never offended, if you are sexually interested in children and you reach out to a therapist for help, they may decide that you still represent a threat, Letourneau said. And that their concerns meet the threshold for a mandatory report.

That's not the case at Berlin's "Project Dunkelfeld," one of the only places in the world that offers treatment for pedophiles.

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puppy posted...

I'm just saying is that if they put a P on LGBTQ, then I'm checking out of this joint.

We don't really care much when consenting adults of that alphabet fuck eachother. Adding "P" ignores at least one of those traits.

nemu posted...

I'm for people not wanting to instantly lynch people who legitimately want to seek out mental help to control their disgusting urges, but these fuckers want to make it just another sexuality. They deserve no public sympathy at all.

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This will not end well.

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nemu posted...

I don't know about the ones in this video in particular, but these people usually try to sneak into the LBGT circle and list disgusting s*** like their "age range of attraction" in their Twitter profiles.

That doesn't sound like the type who would actually want help. They sound like the ones who think it's okay. From what I watched in the first moments of this video, the dude legit wanted help and didn't want to have the thoughts that he was having about kids. He was just afraid to seek help because he knew that even vocalizing those thoughts could possibly get himself hurt, or worse.

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In 10 years you'll be labelled a bigot for calling out pedophiles

It's not a choice, after all
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nemu posted...

I'm for people not wanting to instantly lynch people who legitimately want to seek out mental help to control their disgusting urges, but these fuckers want to make it just another sexuality. They deserve no public sympathy at all.

yeah I'm gonna take your word for it and not click tyvm

CProtectionSvce posted...

It seems like no one actually watched the video and are instead knee jerking to the clickbait title so for the people who are too lazy to watch heres the description

Non-offending pedophile is a term used to describe an adult who is attracted to children but has never acted on those feelings with a child.

David, a 21-year-old college student in the United States, knows he is attracted to children between the ages of 4 and 11. Hes one of many pedophiles who knows it is wrong, but believes he was born this way, and that with treatment those urges can be controlled.

But to get that help, people like David have to seek it. And in the United States, that comes with huge risk due to mandatory reporting laws that require therapists to report people they deem a risk to children to the police.

Elizabeth Letourneau, director of the Moore Center for the Prevention of Child Sex Abuse, is one of few researchers in the U.S is focusing on preventative measures to help pedophiles.

Even if you've never offended, if you are sexually interested in children and you reach out to a therapist for help, they may decide that you still represent a threat, Letourneau said. And that their concerns meet the threshold for a mandatory report.

That's not the case at Berlin's "Project Dunkelfeld," one of the only places in the world that offers treatment for pedophiles.

The problem is that they're trying to latch too hard onto the "born this way" angle. I agree that it may be too hard for some people who legitimately want help to get it, but this a rebound too far in the other direction.

nemu posted...

CProtectionSvce posted...

It seems like no one actually watched the video and are instead knee jerking to the clickbait title so for the people who are too lazy to watch heres the description

Non-offending pedophile is a term used to describe an adult who is attracted to children but has never acted on those feelings with a child.

David, a 21-year-old college student in the United States, knows he is attracted to children between the ages of 4 and 11. Hes one of many pedophiles who knows it is wrong, but believes he was born this way, and that with treatment those urges can be controlled.

But to get that help, people like David have to seek it. And in the United States, that comes with huge risk due to mandatory reporting laws that require therapists to report people they deem a risk to children to the police.

Elizabeth Letourneau, director of the Moore Center for the Prevention of Child Sex Abuse, is one of few researchers in the U.S is focusing on preventative measures to help pedophiles.

Even if you've never offended, if you are sexually interested in children and you reach out to a therapist for help, they may decide that you still represent a threat, Letourneau said. And that their concerns meet the threshold for a mandatory report.

That's not the case at Berlin's "Project Dunkelfeld," one of the only places in the world that offers treatment for pedophiles.

The problem is that they're trying to latch too hard onto the "born this way" angle. I agree that it may be too hard for some people who legitimately want help to get it, but this a rebound too far in the other direction.

so what is the reason they're attracted to children?
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nemu posted...

The problem is that they're trying to latch too hard onto the "born this way" angle. I agree that it may be too hard for some people who legitimately want help to get it, but this a rebound too far in the other direction.

It's so taboo that I don't even know if we have that much research on it. I mean, maybe they are simply born that way, idk. Being born that way doesn't suddenly make it okay, or give them a pass, especially with something like this. Something that actively harms people, and molesting kids actively harms them for the rest of their life. It's drastically different from gay people, cause they are typically adults who consent to each other. No one is getting abused or taken advantage of in the example of gay people.

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nemu posted...

CProtectionSvce posted...

It seems like no one actually watched the video and are instead knee jerking to the clickbait title so for the people who are too lazy to watch heres the description

Non-offending pedophile is a term used to describe an adult who is attracted to children but has never acted on those feelings with a child.

David, a 21-year-old college student in the United States, knows he is attracted to children between the ages of 4 and 11. Hes one of many pedophiles who knows it is wrong, but believes he was born this way, and that with treatment those urges can be controlled.

But to get that help, people like David have to seek it. And in the United States, that comes with huge risk due to mandatory reporting laws that require therapists to report people they deem a risk to children to the police.

Elizabeth Letourneau, director of the Moore Center for the Prevention of Child Sex Abuse, is one of few researchers in the U.S is focusing on preventative measures to help pedophiles.

Even if you've never offended, if you are sexually interested in children and you reach out to a therapist for help, they may decide that you still represent a threat, Letourneau said. And that their concerns meet the threshold for a mandatory report.

That's not the case at Berlin's "Project Dunkelfeld," one of the only places in the world that offers treatment for pedophiles.

The problem is that they're trying to latch too hard onto the "born this way" angle. I agree that it may be too hard for some people who legitimately want help to get it, but this a rebound too far in the other direction.

Youre mistaking what this is. This isnt the MAP fools trying to convince themselves theyre normal. This is legit people trying to seek treatment, exactly the type of thing that should be encouraged.
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But it's true that they were born with those urges, isn't it? The urges are wrong and should not be acted on, but no one asks to be a pedophile.

I feel like "normalized" in this scenario is a bit blurred. There are some people who think they want to go "Having sexual desires about children is perfectly normal and there's no shame in that". Which, no, absolutely not.

But I think they mean "normalized" as in people treat pedophilia as any other illness. Like people understand why the recovering alcoholic will pass if you invite them to a bar. People will understand why the war vet with ptsd doesn't like the sound of fireworks.

We're a bit overzealous when it comes to non acting pedophiles. It would be nice if it was treated like any other problem that you can get help for.
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is it really so much of a stretch to suggest that you shouldn't need help to not kidnap and molest children if you know it's wrong?

CProtectionSvce posted...

Youre mistaking what this is. This isnt the MAP fools trying to convince themselves theyre normal. This is legit people trying to seek treatment, exactly the type of thing that should be encouraged.

I think help should be more available for these type of people. Help without giving the impression that it's normal behavior and somehow not shameful.

I mean, if I had an overwhelming desire to kill people, I would like to be able to seek help for it. The help being made available shouldn't mean that killing people is a perfectly normal sentiment.

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The problem is a lot of them are trying to get into the LGBTQ community. They do this minor attached person (MAP) shit on Twitter since Tumblr decided not to allow NSFW material on their platform which they use to flock to. There is a reason why it's labeled as a disorder in the DSM-5. I am perfectly fine if with them as long as they seek actual help but most seem to make any excuse to not seek it and it pisses me off. Being a pedophile isn't normal, it's a disorder and they should seek treatment.
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Isn't this backlash the same reason why many gun owners won't seek treatment for mental issues since they're worried they'll have their property seized and they get stigmatized in their community?
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-Cipher- posted...

is it really so much of a stretch to suggest that you shouldn't need help to not kidnap and molest children if you know it's wrong?

Mental illness doesn't always follow logic and reason.

You can know something is wrong but still be tormented by thoughts of said thing. A person may want to seek help if they are plagued by intrusive thoughts to an abnormal degree. Would you rather them just do nothing and possibly act on urges in future, or would you rather them seek counseling and learn coping exercises and skills?

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Superlinkbro posted...

They do this minor attached person (MAP) shit

This has nothing to do with those fucks.

Superlinkbro posted...

but most seem to make any excuse to not seek it and it pisses me off. Being a pedophile isn't normal, it's a disorder and they should seek treatment.

Hard to seek treatment for something that gets you stigmatized even if you haven't actually done anything yet. You try to get help in the US, you could easily end up screwed. And if the neighbors ever find out.

ApoorHollow posted...

Option C, a well placed bullet

^ This being a prime example of why some people don't seek help.

...Unless you're talking about MAP people still. Then yeah, I have no sympathy for those who embrace it.
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ApoorHollow posted...

Option C, a well placed bullet

I don't think killing people for something they haven't done is a viable solution.

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Can someone tldr this for me?

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Dyinglegacy posted...

I don't think killing people for something they haven't done is a viable solution.

It's definitely viable

maybe not ethical, but definitely viable

I'm not clicking on that video lol but I don't understand the conversation here. I think people should seek help. You can't just arrest a non-offending pedophile if they haven't done anything illegal. Pedophilia shouldn't be normalized but that doesnt mean you shouldn't be able to "treat" it with therapy.

That being said, I dont know shit about how much therapy works for pedophiles, or if it even does. As a society we should be able to talk about it though and it seems like we refuse to.
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Veggeta_MAX posted...

Can someone tldr this for me?

Should Non-Offending Pedophiles be able to seek help for their illness. Basically.

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Dyinglegacy posted...

Should Non-Offending Pedophiles be able to seek help for their illness. Basically.

If that's all it is then I don't see what's wrong with it. People who are self-aware that being a pedophile is bad and wants help before he/she might do something bad is something we should all get behind.

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-Cipher- posted...

is it really so much of a stretch to suggest that you shouldn't need help to not kidnap and molest children if you know it's wrong?

Thats not really how mental disorders work. So whats your solution, just tell them to repress it? What sounds more feasible and safer? Relying on an individual to repress themselves or having them get treated by professional help? Ironically, just saying they should simply keep it to themselves would be closer to normalizing it.
Dyinglegacy posted...

CProtectionSvce posted...

Youre mistaking what this is. This isnt the MAP fools trying to convince themselves theyre normal. This is legit people trying to seek treatment, exactly the type of thing that should be encouraged.

I think help should be more available for these type of people. Help without giving the impression that it's normal behavior and somehow not shameful.

I mean, if I had an overwhelming desire to kill people, I would like to be able to seek help for it. The help being made available shouldn't mean that killing people is a perfectly normal sentiment.

Thats the logical and rational viewpoint, yes.
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-Cipher- posted...

It's definitely viable

maybe not ethical, but definitely viable

It's not viable. Do you mean effective? Sure, it's effective.

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Dyinglegacy posted...

It's not viable. Do you mean effective? Sure, it's effective.

How exactly do you define viability

Probably by not murdering people for thoughts.
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How is a preference towards like....piper perri type women viewed by the masses?

Cuz people who dont know who she is would definitely get pedo vibes if you said you thought she was hot

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Umbreon posted...

Probably by not murdering people for thoughts.

Humanity has killed for a lot less

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-Cipher- posted...

How exactly do you define viability

Feasible, workable, usable.

Unless we are living in some mad max lawless universe, putting a bullet in someones head for the thoughts they've been having isn't viable.

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