Current Events > Millennials. Where did we go wrong?

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We are almost as annoying as baby boomers. What happened? Was it the baby boomers? Technology? Gen X? We had so much potential guys.

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Identity politics. The house market crashing just as we were starting to go to college. Also to much fantasy Hollywood bullshit being taken serious. Also the internet leaves us at a weird state with outrage/cancel culture, but I call bs on us being the only fools that do that. I see Gen Xer's doing the same shit as us on twitter and facebook.

I would say, on average, we are more knowledgeable about the internet than other generations. I would say parenting, but I feel like we are at the age to where we should have mellowed out by now.

Though I will say, it's usually not the milleneals that were born 1980s it's like a weird mid 90s range where we separate. It's like if you can vividly remember 9/11 and the impact it had the mindset is almost, not entirely, different than if you don't remember 9/11 or understood what happened at the time.

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Cost of living went up and baby boomers want us to pay for the damages they've done.
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What's the problem now?
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Slaya4 posted...

We are almost as annoying as baby boomers.

How do you figure?
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Most of our everyday needs are solved by clicking buttons online. By conditioning we think that world problems can be solved the same way. We worship the button, the one we all carry and stare at all day. We need others to click ours. The button is the only thing that matters.
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spoiled whiners
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Nah, it's just the mainstream media and baby boomers hammering the idea that millenials are entitled and blah blah blah every chance they get for the past 20 years.

Self-loathing is a bad look tc
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We exactly didn't do anything wrong, but we are definitely a part of the problem... the generations before us built and groomed society in a way that we are only beginning to see the aftereffects. Mass consumerism is a big one, the compulsion to take and take, and how easily we can do this. Food, medicine, services by people, tools, environmental resources.... all at our fingertips. We use so many finite resources and our civilizations rely so heavily on them (oil, trees, crops) and the tipping point and decline will make it extremely hard, if not impossible, to reverse the damages we are inflicting on the planet.
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Human nature works on a pendulum. You have a generation swing it a little to the right, next generation works harder to swing it to the left. Generation after that has to work harder than that to pull it back, and the following generation pulls back left harder. We're now at this crazy full swing with where we are today where millennials are perpetually offended and screaming at the sky.
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We weren't hit enough as kids. We didn't have fear to guide us
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In what regard? And who is "we"? Millennials and boomers and gen X'ers vary in personality and character and whatnot. I don't like and I try not to generalize entire generations of people.

There are whiny, entitled, selfish people of all generations. There are also hard working people of good character across every generation as well.
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Slaya4 posted...

I would say, on average, we are more knowledgeable about the internet than other generations. I would say parenting, but I feel like we are at the age to where we should have mellowed out by now.

Though I will say, it's usually not the milleneals that were born 1980s it's like a weird mid 90s range where we separate. It's like if you can vividly remember 9/11 and the impact it had the mindset is almost, not entirely, different than if you don't remember 9/11 or understood what happened at the time.

Not too mention knowing a life pre internet. Thats a huge difference too.
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The educational system collapse in the 90s. High schools in the 1990s were just like in the 1995 film "Dangerous Minds". Imagine being in that type of environment were the school you are in had nothing but gangs and delinquents, you are not being educated for the real world. Then you had inflation, big government, over-taxed and an over-regulated economy so the government made it very difficult to earn money after you graduated (or dropped out) of grade school. And during the 90s, early 2000s, and today the media played a big part in our lives.

During the Bush years the debt went from $4 trillion to $10 trillion. The cost of housing/rent and healthcare skyrocketed, the economy was collapsing during the Bush years, and it collapsed under Obama. Now Trump is just continuing the same policies of Bush and Obama, while making the economy worse.

The internet gives all the whiners a voice and to be offended by literally anything.
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Conflict posted...

The more people whine incessantly about this generation the less I'm convinced there's actually anything wrong with it

This

Seems like a lot of false generalizations to me
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First generation that learned their socialization skills through the Internet. It very clearly shows.

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A lot of us just havent fully grown up yet. Everyone born post 89 are still in their 20s and every generation understands that they dont know wtf is going on in their 20s. So its hard to say weve f***** up when a good portion of us are still trying to figure ourselves out

darkstar4221 posted...

The educational system collapse in the 90s. High schools in the 1990s were just like in the 1995 film "Dangerous Minds". Imagine being in that type of environment were the school you are in had nothing but gangs and delinquents, you are not being educated for the real world. Then you had inflation, big government, over-taxed and an over-regulated economy so the government made it very difficult to earn money after you graduated (or dropped out) of grade school. And during the 90s, early 2000s, and today the media played a big part in our lives.

During the Bush years the debt went from $4 trillion to $10 trillion. The cost of housing/rent and healthcare skyrocketed, the economy was collapsing during the Bush years, and it collapsed under Obama. Now Trump is just continuing the same policies of Bush and Obama, while making the economy worse.

I started high school in the early 2000s.
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The Admiral posted...

First generation that learned their socialization skills through the Internet. It very clearly shows.

That's zoomers, I'm a relatively young millennial and none of my school friends used the internet much, certainly not for communication. Social media being popular is newer than that
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Before the recession, I don't think anyone really said anything about millennials. Then after the recession there were a lot of articles about millennials killing some industry or millennials being lazy and things like that.

Instead of attacking articles like this for being stupid over-generalizations or possibly even taking some of these criticisms and trying to improve on them when applicable, millennials decided to just attack boomers instead. Whatever bad thing boomers say about millennials, millennials turn it around tenfold. There is now a generational battle between boomers and millennials.

That's where millennials went wrong. A generation that is supposed to be progressive is so focused on batting over social media with a previous generation.
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MarqueeSeries posted...

Conflict posted...

The more people whine incessantly about this generation the less I'm convinced there's actually anything wrong with it

This

Seems like a lot of false generalizations to me

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GameboyTroy posted...

darkstar4221 posted...

The educational system collapse in the 90s. High schools in the 1990s were just like in the 1995 film "Dangerous Minds". Imagine being in that type of environment were the school you are in had nothing but gangs and delinquents, you are not being educated for the real world. Then you had inflation, big government, over-taxed and an over-regulated economy so the government made it very difficult to earn money after you graduated (or dropped out) of grade school. And during the 90s, early 2000s, and today the media played a big part in our lives.

During the Bush years the debt went from $4 trillion to $10 trillion. The cost of housing/rent and healthcare skyrocketed, the economy was collapsing during the Bush years, and it collapsed under Obama. Now Trump is just continuing the same policies of Bush and Obama, while making the economy worse.

I started high school in the early 2000s.

Yeah so did I, yeah I forgot to put early 2000s too.

We didn't destroy our enemies for the sake of a better world, and basically became our parents as a result. Only the world sucks even more due to the lack of evisceration across the past several generations.

Also phones are too convenient.
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They let boomers and far right youtubers brainwash them into believing there's something wrong with millenials

The main problem is that a lot of milennials don't want to be traditional men and women. Gender roles are okay.
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alimajor posted...

A lot of us just havent fully grown up yet. Everyone born post 89 are still in their 20s and every generation understands that they dont know wtf is going on in their 20s. So its hard to say weve f***** up when a good portion of us are still trying to figure ourselves out

That's a fair assessment, but this is the same generation that says a toddler can know their identity. Saying that we don't know the answers or ourselves would be the adult thing to do.

BillyKidd posted...

Human nature works on a pendulum. You have a generation swing it a little to the right, next generation works harder to swing it to the left. Generation after that has to work harder than that to pull it back, and the following generation pulls back left harder. We're now at this crazy full swing with where we are today where millennials are perpetually offended and screaming at the sky.

There's gotta be a neutral part though or else it's going to be just a snow ball effect

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Slaya4 posted...

There's gotta be a neutral part though or else it's going to be just a snow ball effect

There is no neutral, that's why it's called a pendulum; it's never gonna stop swinging when more weights are being added each time it comes up one side.
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darkstar4221 posted...

GameboyTroy posted...

darkstar4221 posted...

The educational system collapse in the 90s. High schools in the 1990s were just like in the 1995 film "Dangerous Minds". Imagine being in that type of environment were the school you are in had nothing but gangs and delinquents, you are not being educated for the real world. Then you had inflation, big government, over-taxed and an over-regulated economy so the government made it very difficult to earn money after you graduated (or dropped out) of grade school. And during the 90s, early 2000s, and today the media played a big part in our lives.

During the Bush years the debt went from $4 trillion to $10 trillion. The cost of housing/rent and healthcare skyrocketed, the economy was collapsing during the Bush years, and it collapsed under Obama. Now Trump is just continuing the same policies of Bush and Obama, while making the economy worse.

I started high school in the early 2000s.

Yeah so did I, yeah I forgot to put early 2000s too.

Lol.
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We? The whole concept of Millennial is a faux construct.

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IShall_Run_Amok posted...

We didn't destroy our enemies for the sake of a better world, and basically became our parents as a result. Only the world sucks even more due to the lack of evisceration across the past several generations.

Also phones are too convenient.

this is true, it took 33 years before it got me.
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Slaya4 posted...

That's a fair assessment, but this is the same generation that says a toddler can know their identity. Saying that we don't know the answers or ourselves would be the adult thing to do.

idk if this is a millennial only mindset though. I think this is more of just a overly left mentality that can span across generations. I may have one friend who thinks this way but shes so left to the point where she tried to tell me, a black person, that I cant say the n-word around her because she finds it offensive on behalf of her Gullah Nanny from childhood.

GameboyTroy posted...

darkstar4221 posted...

GameboyTroy posted...

darkstar4221 posted...

The educational system collapse in the 90s. High schools in the 1990s were just like in the 1995 film "Dangerous Minds". Imagine being in that type of environment were the school you are in had nothing but gangs and delinquents, you are not being educated for the real world. Then you had inflation, big government, over-taxed and an over-regulated economy so the government made it very difficult to earn money after you graduated (or dropped out) of grade school. And during the 90s, early 2000s, and today the media played a big part in our lives.

During the Bush years the debt went from $4 trillion to $10 trillion. The cost of housing/rent and healthcare skyrocketed, the economy was collapsing during the Bush years, and it collapsed under Obama. Now Trump is just continuing the same policies of Bush and Obama, while making the economy worse.

I started high school in the early 2000s.

Yeah so did I, yeah I forgot to put early 2000s too.

Lol.

Yeah schools back then in the 90s and most of the 2000s were a cease pool of drugs, violence, and other forms delinquent/dysfunctional behavior. It was like the film dangerous minds. That's what us millennial's went through, I know I went through it.

You were born a few generations after a group of whiners who won't take responsibility for their fuck-ups and are running out of scapegoats
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- we're still very conservative with gender roles and sexuality compared to the younger generation. while we acknowledge concepts like pansexuality, bisexuality, gender fluidity and transgender, we still joke and minimalise it
- we're very susceptible to becoming far/alt-right and hating others for problems that are within ourselves
- we got screwed over by the previous generation but probably willing to screw over the next generation for our own happiness because we're angry about it
- we also seem to carry over negative traits from the boomers and continue that (e.g. sexual harassment)
- there's also plenty of time for us to screw up

obviously i'm talking in general terms and it doesn't apply to everyone. millennials are better than boomers, but not as good as gen z (although they do have problems themselves, esp when it comes to internet celebrity-dom and influencers)

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The boomers caused the divide. Some still want segregation and are completely avoiding of change. They rose their kids up to be this way. They also are the cause of this hyperinflation and all these assholes in office because they wanted to preserve these backyard ideas they see as morality.
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At least we aren't fucking Hippies, if South Park and Ounce Upon A Time In Hollywood taught me anything Hippies are the absolute worst

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Parappa09 posted...

- we're still very conservative with gender roles and sexuality compared to the younger generation. while we acknowledge concepts like pansexuality, bisexuality, gender fluidity and transgender, we still joke and minimalise it
- we're very susceptible to becoming far/alt-right and hating others for problems that are within ourselves
- we got screwed over by the previous generation but probably willing to screw over the next generation for our own happiness because we're angry about it
- we also seem to carry over negative traits from the boomers and continue that (e.g. sexual harassment)
- there's also plenty of time for us to screw up

obviously i'm talking in general terms and it doesn't apply to everyone. millennials are better than boomers, but not as good as gen z (although they do have problems themselves, esp when it comes to internet celebrity-dom and influencers)

Your first point can have me as exhibit A as I'm pretty conservative about gender. I like things simple.

On your second point. Why do you think that we are susceptible in being swayed on way or the either?

I would like to believe that we aren't that selfish into wanting to screw over the next generation. I think we have some good in us and are aware of that, but the more I think about it, you're probably right. The amount of students that believe in big government scares me with giving everything out with our trillions in debt.

alimajor posted...

idk if this is a millennial only mindset though. I think this is more of just a overly left mentality that can span across generations. I may have one friend who thinks this way but shes so left to the point where she tried to tell me, a black person, that I cant say the n-word around her because she finds it offensive on behalf of her Gullah Nanny from childhood.

Lol unbelievable. Like she truly understands how that word offends her. I couldn't be friends with her tbh.

sundered posted...

We? The whole concept of Millennial is a faux construct.

I'm not saying you in particular, but come on bruh. All the people that's claiming "we" are the first people that will generalize boomers and how annoying they are and how much they fucked things up, but as soon as you put them (millennials) in the mix they are "perfect than thou" and "I don't do generalizations," all of a sudden, they can't be touched with criticism and disassociates with the term millenial.


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The thing is Slaya, you believe that no one should intrude upon your life, right? Pretty much everyone believes this. So how does who people marry, what people do to their bodies, and how people express impact everyone else to the point that these people should be ridiculed, discriminated, and hates on for it? Joking about these people leads to teasing, which leads to bullying, and in turn, leads to self harm, suicide, and hate-engaged assaults.

For civility, everyone should just let everyone else be who they are. We are a bag of skittles in society, not Reeses Pieces. We have more than just two or three colors. We have many different colors of many different flavors in many different bags. While things aren't "normal" to the order as you and others may be accustomed to, being gay and transgender goes way back. My studies on this back in school found a case from like 222BC or somewhere around there even for transgender people. Then Chevalier, Lili Elbe, Jorgensen.... the list goes on throughout history.

As a transgender person myself, I just believe we as a group are tired of being killed, harassed, and discriminated for who we are and the general public who are of the spectrum also feels that way. I can go to school as a woman now. I can work as one now. It's.... invigorating. It's free. While I still feel like I have a weight on my shoulders whenever I go to the bathroom, or when people look at me thinking I might be being clocked, it's great to be able to live how I want and actually be happy about it.

I don't expect everyone to get on board with us, but we are progressing with it and it WILL take time. While you like simplicity, you are putting your own infront of others. Just think about it. Does it really hurt to say to someone who is a transwoman "How are you doing today, miss?" ... Five hours later when you aren't in their presence, they'll still be elated and it would make no impact on you what-so-ever. You'd be a genuinely good person.

It should be everyone's goal to better themselves every day. Make yourself a better person. I try to. Everyone should. Just making someone's day, even if you don't understand it or like simplicity, goes a long way. You might even save that person's life, if they were thinking of killing themselves later. Swallow your pride, be a hero.
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In the next ten to twenty years millennials will start to make up the bulk of our elected politicians. What'll happen to the country then? LOL

Lost_All_Senses posted...

We weren't hit enough as kids. We didn't have fear to guide us

I think it's more we were told defacto by authority figures that we are special no matter what, when we should have been told the world doesn't work that way.

ArchiePeck posted...

In the next ten to twenty years millennials will start to make up the bulk of our elected politicians. What'll happen to the country then? LOL

Avocado toast on every menu!
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every generation gets called the worst ever
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Millennials are alright.
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darkstar4221 posted...

GameboyTroy posted...

darkstar4221 posted...

GameboyTroy posted...

darkstar4221 posted...

The educational system collapse in the 90s. High schools in the 1990s were just like in the 1995 film "Dangerous Minds". Imagine being in that type of environment were the school you are in had nothing but gangs and delinquents, you are not being educated for the real world. Then you had inflation, big government, over-taxed and an over-regulated economy so the government made it very difficult to earn money after you graduated (or dropped out) of grade school. And during the 90s, early 2000s, and today the media played a big part in our lives.

During the Bush years the debt went from $4 trillion to $10 trillion. The cost of housing/rent and healthcare skyrocketed, the economy was collapsing during the Bush years, and it collapsed under Obama. Now Trump is just continuing the same policies of Bush and Obama, while making the economy worse.

I started high school in the early 2000s.

Yeah so did I, yeah I forgot to put early 2000s too.

Lol.

Yeah schools back then in the 90s and most of the 2000s were a cease pool of drugs, violence, and other forms delinquent/dysfunctional behavior. It was like the film dangerous minds. That's what us millennial's went through, I know I went through it.

I didn't join any gangs.
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biggernails posted...

Lost_All_Senses posted...

We weren't hit enough as kids. We didn't have fear to guide us

I think it's more we were told defacto by authority figures that we are special no matter what, when we should have been told the world doesn't work that way.

Yeah fuck Mr. Roger's. Clearly what is important is more child abuse.

People say millenials are entitled but gen x and boomers are way more entitled. There are entitled people of all ages obviously, but for the most part if you get someone complaining about people not catering to their every whim in public it is usually an old person.
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