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Kelystic
09/07/19 9:42:26 AM
#151:


Got SAR21.

3 more to go. Heard that this squirrel SMG is one if the rarest gun in the game
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Cookie Bag
09/07/19 10:13:51 AM
#152:


https://imgur.com/tnO8yc1

I really don't like her face, also got everything but P90 and the MG since i didn't roll for MG or care much about P90 lol
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Tmaster148
09/07/19 11:16:58 AM
#153:


Lol the first T-Doll I produced on rate up was P-90.
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Kelystic
09/07/19 11:36:58 AM
#154:


Got k31.

Still no P90.
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Calwings
09/07/19 11:44:16 AM
#155:


Tmaster148 posted...
Lol the first T-Doll I produced on rate up was P-90.

Same, and r/GirlsFrontline seems to be completely losing their shit right now.

https://www.reddit.com/r/girlsfrontline/comments/cz1xgn/weekly_commanders_lounge_september_03_2019/
https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/d0vo2n/the_girls_frontline_community_is_feeling_like/

From what I've been reading, it sounds like they implemented something on EN where the first roll you make during a rate-up (that is of a compatible recipe to craft a doll from the new batch) has a much higher chance of giving you a doll from the new batch. So the amount of first-roll P90's and PX4's (since you can get both from an SMG recipe) is through the roof, especially compared to P90's 0.11% drop rate back on the CN server.
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Tmaster148
09/07/19 11:48:04 AM
#156:


It took me a lot of tries afterwards to get PX4, but now I have both.

So I'm just missing K31 and QJY-88, but neither of them are that interesting to me.
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Calwings
09/07/19 11:53:14 AM
#157:


I got the only one I care about, to be honest. PX4 is a "maybe if I get her, I'll use her" choice, but the others, I couldn't care less about.
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Cookie Bag
09/07/19 11:59:41 AM
#158:


yeah i got storm on my first pull which was weird, i guess this is another "Fuck you" from EN to CN lmao
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Popcorn_Fairy
09/07/19 12:54:47 PM
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Popcorn_Fairy
09/07/19 2:12:12 PM
#160:


References IDW, talks about memes, and makes fun of Tsunderes. This is great.

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Shotgunnova
09/07/19 3:41:55 PM
#161:


Damn, seems a lot of people had luck right out of the gate. I think I made 416, MDR and some other one within the first four. It's Px4 that took me an extra 100 tries (got an extra Calico out of it, so at least there was that).
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Calwings
09/07/19 3:47:02 PM
#162:


Shotgunnova posted...
Damn, seems a lot of people had luck right out of the gate. I think I made 416, MDR and some other one within the first four. It's Px4 that took me an extra 100 tries (got an extra Calico out of it, so at least there was that).

See:

Calwings posted...
https://www.reddit.com/r/girlsfrontline/comments/cz1xgn/weekly_commanders_lounge_september_03_2019/
https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/d0vo2n/the_girls_frontline_community_is_feeling_like/

From what I've been reading, it sounds like they implemented something on EN where the first roll you make during a rate-up (that is of a compatible recipe to craft a doll from the new batch) has a much higher chance of giving you a doll from the new batch. So the amount of first-roll P90's and PX4's (since you can get both from an SMG recipe) is through the roof, especially compared to P90's 0.11% drop rate back on the CN server.

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Shotgunnova
09/07/19 3:48:13 PM
#163:


Wish I'd known that before I rolled. Oh well, going through 100 HG pulls isn't as bad as 100 ARs.
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Tmaster148
09/07/19 3:54:01 PM
#164:


I'm 4/5 on 5* pulls for the Entrance Exam event, might try to get another 5* pull since if I do I'll be able to max the event score.
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Shotgunnova
09/07/19 10:16:26 PM
#165:


Got to 2400 points and finally hit three black cards!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2hfkbb9MGQ" data-time="&start=71

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Shotgunnova
09/08/19 5:38:22 PM
#166:


Anyone still doing the rate-up?
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Kelystic
09/08/19 8:34:21 PM
#167:


me. still trying for p90.

down to 40 contracts now.
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Popcorn_Fairy
09/08/19 8:38:18 PM
#168:


I ran out of contracts, I'd like to keep rolling for Px4, but I can't. Did get P90 tho.
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Genwai
09/08/19 8:42:27 PM
#169:


I got them all in about 40-50 contracts. Saving up for the general rate-up later on.
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Kelystic
09/08/19 10:02:28 PM
#170:


I'll probably stop soon. On the bright side I got a few copies of CMS to 5-link.
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Kelystic
09/09/19 1:04:47 AM
#171:


Finally got P90. Now i only have 6 contracts and 8 fast contracts.
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Musourenka
09/09/19 8:09:01 AM
#172:


I'm trying to keep my resources up since I'm burning through Manpower and Rations, so I haven't done much in the way of production.

Also, I found out my issue with cores and linking. I never tried linking without selecting duplicate T-dolls... so... That's on me. Fun.
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Tmaster148
09/09/19 1:06:32 PM
#173:


Musourenka posted...
I'm trying to keep my resources up since I'm burning through Manpower and Rations, so I haven't done much in the way of production.

Also, I found out my issue with cores and linking. I never tried linking without selecting duplicate T-dolls... so... That's on me. Fun.


For SGs and any 5* unit you want to build for your main teams you should probably just suck up cost.
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Shotgunnova
09/09/19 1:47:59 PM
#174:


Yeah, it's hard to get duplicates of SGs when you're dropping thousands of resources just on an off chance of getting one. Sometimes you'll get several duplicates during a rate-up, though, so it may pay to just keep those for a time when they can be put to use. That's how I dummy-linked some of 'em, like Stetchkin, Shrimp, etc.

Keeping resources up is always smart, though. I'll never understand people who bottom out their categories/contracts. :P
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Tmaster148
09/09/19 5:13:57 PM
#175:


I've been getting some UMP45 dupes again, looks like the game wants me to build a 3rd UMP45.
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Kelystic
09/09/19 8:28:51 PM
#176:


how many of you guys build dupes?

there are so many to choose from i always core my dupes regardless of rarity.
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Popcorn_Fairy
09/09/19 8:29:30 PM
#177:


Kelystic posted...
how many of you guys build dupes?

there are so many to choose from i always core my dupes regardless of rarity.


I core my dupes.
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Shotgunnova
09/09/19 8:32:51 PM
#178:


I try to get all my units up to Lv30 so any dupes can go towards dummy linking. Once I get to that point, and I amass a bunch of other dupes for one unit or another, I use combat reports to get 'em up to LV70 and get rid of some. Once there's enough LV70s running around, I'll make a unit of 'em and get 'em al up to Lv90 through light play (usually the EXP mode).

But yeah, once you have a max-linked unit, I just core all the others I get. The exceptions are Contender and Groza, but I haven't really used those dupes much.
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Tmaster148
09/09/19 8:36:04 PM
#179:


Not many. I might keep a few dupe for dummying as it returns more cores that way. UMP45 is just one of the better smgs who is pretty easy to get dupes for.

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Calwings
09/09/19 8:48:29 PM
#180:


Kelystic posted...
how many of you guys build dupes?

there are so many to choose from i always core my dupes regardless of rarity.

I haven't leveled up a second copy of any dolls in the game, partly because the only ones worth doing so (like SAT8) I've only ever actually pulled once.
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Cookie Bag
09/10/19 3:10:48 AM
#181:


Only things really worth keeping dupes of is HG's and some special units like SAT8 but good luck with that
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Kelystic
09/10/19 7:48:41 AM
#182:


G36 vs Mosin vs SAA
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pogo_rabid
09/10/19 8:25:10 AM
#183:


Reinstalled the game again, tried to give it a go. Completely unmotivated to deal with it again, uninstalled a few hours later.
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Musourenka
09/10/19 8:34:45 AM
#184:


I don't keep dupes beyond dummy linking.

I'm hoarding my cores for now. Haven't tried leveling any 5 stars because of the core cost right now.
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Shotgunnova
09/10/19 3:26:04 PM
#185:


It's happening!!

rdboQxb

pogo_rabid posted...
Reinstalled the game again, tried to give it a go. Completely unmotivated to deal with it again, uninstalled a few hours later.
What part's keeping you unmotivated? If you're low level with bad units or low resources, you can always add our teams and steamroll over the enemies, including bosses. The more chapters you unlock, the better logistics missions you can run, which means easier resource acquisition. If you just don't like the game for other reasons, though...well, there may not be anything to help with. =(
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Calwings
09/10/19 3:31:45 PM
#186:


Shotgunnova posted...
It's happening!!

rdboQxb

You literally could have bought one dollar worth of gems and had her over a year ago. While I applaud your patience, if you really wanted FAL that badly, is one dollar really too much to spend to support the game?
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Shotgunnova
09/10/19 3:37:09 PM
#187:


I don't really like FAL's design, so getting her's not that important. It was just more of an amazing thing to do 1000+ pulls for ARs and not get one of the 5*s included by default, lmao. Even Negev and PKP gave me less trouble.
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Calwings
09/10/19 3:45:31 PM
#188:


Shotgunnova posted...
It was just more of an amazing thing to do 1000+ pulls for ARs and not get one of the 5*s included by default, lmao.

Yeah... amazing...

*still hasn't gotten Type 95*
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Shotgunnova
09/10/19 3:54:14 PM
#189:


Hmm, I think I'm still missing that one, too. Either that or Type 97.

My collection rate's at around 91-92%, though, so I'm mostly missing SGs since I never do those pulls.
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Musourenka
09/10/19 4:04:50 PM
#190:


I haven't unlocked SGs / Heavy Production yet. I have a few MGs, but I haven't used them much. They're pretty resource-heavy, too.

Is there a function or niche that MG/SG covers well that AR/SMG and RF/HG do not?
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Shotgunnova
09/10/19 4:14:55 PM
#191:


Shotguns have armor, so even if they can't evade well, they can reduce many mooks' attacks to 1 damage. Bosses and snipers tend to get through, though, so they're not always great for those battles, despite their ridiculously high health (often 1100+). MGs have high damage and high ROF, basically letting them be MVP of any battle they're in. They don't evade well and tend to have long reload times, but when they're firing, they'll do pretty well.

SG/MG teams don't do as well against evasive enemies, though, or in battles where they have accuracy penalties (like night battles; they can't equip NV goggles). You can offset some of this with HG skills or fairies, maybe. Note that enemies with low evasion, like armored enemies or trudging mooks (the kind that advance as far forward as they can go), get torn to pieces by MGs.

But yeah, a MG/SG team has a very high efficiency, since all units have high health and survivability potential. I have someone on my friend's list with a 58,000-power MG/SG team, haha. I think they maxed out one of their fairies to reach that amount, though. Even my MG/SG team (Elphelt/Contender/PKP/PK/MG5) can nearly reach 50,000 power, and that's with a handgun in the mix.
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Calwings
09/10/19 4:19:18 PM
#192:


Musourenka posted...
Is there a function or niche that MG/SG covers well that AR/SMG and RF/HG do not?

The main power of MG/SG echelons is having an extremely high damage output for a short period of time, which maximizes killing speed and minimizes the time that the tanks are exposed to damage. This can even power through some bosses that otherwise might be problematic. Plus, MG's can use AP rounds to defeat armored enemies/bosses that only appear in night maps. The problem with these teams is that they need to reload for a while after firing that initial burst of damage, so their overall DPS evens out in long battles, but the armor from the shotguns helps them survive if a second salvo is needed. Plus, as you mentioned, MG's consume a lot of resources.

As a beginner, you won't need to worry about building an MG/SG team for a while. At most, you might consider raising LWMMG (who is a 2-star LMG who greatly outperforms her common status due to a useful skill and well-placed base stats) and fielding her in a mixed echelon. With a damage/accuracy buff from a HG, you can make a pretty solid 2AR/1SMG/1HG/1MG echelon that can do well in a lot of different story missions.
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Musourenka
09/10/19 5:00:08 PM
#193:


Right now, I use 3 RF/HG teams (2/3 split) and 2 AR/SMG teams (3 AR/2 SMG and 2/2/1 HG).

I think I like RFs too much.
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Shotgunnova
09/10/19 5:03:24 PM
#194:


Rifles are great, but since they prioritize the back row, too many can lead to your front-liners taking more damage than they need. When you start fighting dummy-linked enemies that HGs can't take down very quickly, you'll see what I mean.
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Cookie Bag
09/10/19 5:04:50 PM
#195:


So at what % of T-Dolls are you guys sitting at? im at 95% and missing shit like MG4 lol
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Musourenka
09/10/19 5:13:05 PM
#196:


Shotgunnova posted...
Rifles are great, but since they prioritize the back row, too many can lead to your front-liners taking more damage than they need. When you start fighting dummy-linked enemies that HGs can't take down very quickly, you'll see what I mean.


I do see it from time to time admittedly. Trying to get HGs enhanced with enough evasion is kind of difficult. Unfortunately, I'm running into a similar problem with my ARs not hitting hard enough for the SMGs.

My highest leveled units are M14 and Mosin-Nagant, so my choice of voting later is ... pretty obvious
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Calwings
09/10/19 5:17:19 PM
#197:


Cookie Bag posted...
So at what % of T-Dolls are you guys sitting at? im at 95% and missing shit like MG4 lol

92% for me, but I ;pretty much never grind for the dolls that only drop from event missions like G28 and the collaboration characters. In terms of dolls obtainable from normal/heavy production, I'm missing:

Px4 Storm
Type95
T91
64 Shiki
Negev
QJY-88
AA-12

Type95 and Negev have been in since launch and I still haven't pulled them lol
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Calwings
09/10/19 5:20:07 PM
#198:


Musourenka posted...
Trying to get HGs enhanced with enough evasion is kind of difficult.

If your HG's aren't at level 80 (when they can equip exos) trying to run a pure RF/HG echelon isn't a good idea because they can't tank well enough. A mixed echelon like 1AR/1SMG/2RF/1HG or something like that, with the SMG being up front as the main tank, would be much better at that level.
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Shotgunnova
09/10/19 5:25:36 PM
#199:


The units I'm still missing from production are:

- P90
- Type 97
- K31
- SPR A3G
- Ameli
- NS2000
- RMB-93
- SPAS-12
- AA-12

There's a couple drops from Chapter 8-9 I haven't bothered to get, too.

Musourenka posted...
I do see it from time to time admittedly. Trying to get HGs enhanced with enough evasion is kind of difficult. Unfortunately, I'm running into a similar problem with my ARs not hitting hard enough for the SMGs. My highest leveled units are M14 and Mosin-Nagant, so my choice of voting later is ... pretty obvious
Mosin Nagant and Springfield both have unique equipment you can get from night battles, and the former eventually gets a digimind upgrade, so those are decent choices to be using. But as said, MGs are instant MVPs, so if you swap a rifle for one, you're instantly doing better at helping front-row units -- and that's even without synergistic buffing.
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Kelystic
09/10/19 6:01:30 PM
#200:


KSG is the only doll I'm missing now
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