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Exeggcute 08/15/19 10:24:35 AM #1:	Is that fair? - Results (15 votes) Yes, that's totally fair 80% (12 votes) 12 No, they shouldn't be charged with murder 20% (3 votes) 3 https://news.yahoo.com/homeowner-shot-14-old-during-001623622.html Five Chicago teens are being charged with murder after a 14-year-old who was with them during an attempted burglary was shot by the homeowner, authorities said Tuesday. The group traveled in a stolen Lexus to an Illinois home where they were confronted by the 75-year-old homeowner, according to the Lake County Illinois Sheriff's Office. The man went out to investigate and told authorities he believed someone was trying to steal his car, a 2011 Audi. "At least one of the male subjects advanced toward him with an unknown object in his hand," officials said in a release. "The homeowner feared for his life and discharged a firearm." At least one of the rounds from the small caliber revolver struck the 14-year-old, and a knife was later found at the scene of the shooting. The homeowner called 911 to report the attempted burglary and shots fired, but by the time police arrived all of the suspects had fled. Home invasion: He broke into a North Carolina home and was hit in the head with a machete. That was just the beginning Meanwhile, about 3 miles down the road local police were investigating a traffic crash when the stolen Lexus pulled up to the scene, Detective Sgt. Chris Covelli told reporters at a news conference. Two of the occupants exited the vehicle and one flagged down the officers to assist the other who had a gunshot wound to the head. Covelli said officers began first aid on the gunshot victim and called an ambulance while the other individual was taken into custody. The remaining four teens fled in the Lexus "at a high rate of speed," according to Covelli. The ensuing car chase reached speeds of 120 mile per hour and only ended when the Lexus ran out of gas. The four teens fled the vehicle on foot, three of whom Covelli said were taken into custody "pretty quickly." The fourth suspect was located by an officer and a K-9 about a block away inside a dumpster. All five of the teens, ages 16 to 18, were charged with first degree murder "due to them being in commission of a forcible felony, when the 14-year-old victim was shot and subsequently died as a result of being shot during the commission of a burglary," authorities said in the release. Only one of the suspects, 18-year-old Diamond Davis, has been identified. The teens appeared in court Tuesday afternoon and a Lake County judge set bail at $1 million each. They are set to appear in court again on Sept. 5. Sheriff John Idleburg thanked the law enforcement agencies that assisted on the case at a press conference Tuesday. "Anytime there is a loss of life, it is a tragedy for the family and friends of the deceased," Idleburg added. "Our condolences go out to the family of the young man who lost his life today, despite the circumstances. --- There are six of us <cite>Exeggcute posted [p:926097830] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote> Is that fair? - Results (15 votes) Yes, that's totally fair 80% (12 votes) 12 No, they shouldn't be charged with murder 20% (3 votes) 3 https://news.yahoo.com/homeowner-shot-14-old-during-001623622.html Five Chicago teens are being charged with murder after a 14-year-old who was with them during an attempted burglary was shot by the homeowner, authorities said Tuesday. The group traveled in a stolen Lexus to an Illinois home where they were confronted by the 75-year-old homeowner, according to the Lake County Illinois Sheriff's Office. The man went out to investigate and told authorities he believed someone was trying to steal his car, a 2011 Audi. "At least one of the male subjects advanced toward him with an unknown object in his hand," officials said in a release. "The homeowner feared for his life and discharged a firearm." At least one of the rounds from the small caliber revolver struck the 14-year-old, and a knife was later found at the scene of the shooting. The homeowner called 911 to report the attempted burglary and shots fired, but by the time police arrived all of the suspects had fled. Home invasion: He broke into a North Carolina home and was hit in the head with a machete. That was just the beginning Meanwhile, about 3 miles down the road local police were investigating a traffic crash when the stolen Lexus pulled up to the scene, Detective Sgt. Chris Covelli told reporters at a news conference. Two of the occupants exited the vehicle and one flagged down the officers to assist the other who had a gunshot wound to the head. Covelli said officers began first aid on the gunshot victim and called an ambulance while the other individual was taken into custody. The remaining four teens fled in the Lexus "at a high rate of speed," according to Covelli. The ensuing car chase reached speeds of 120 mile per hour and only ended when the Lexus ran out of gas. The four teens fled the vehicle on foot, three of whom Covelli said were taken into custody "pretty quickly." The fourth suspect was located by an officer and a K-9 about a block away inside a dumpster. All five of the teens, ages 16 to 18, were charged with first degree murder "due to them being in commission of a forcible felony, when the 14-year-old victim was shot and subsequently died as a result of being shot during the commission of a burglary," authorities said in the release. Only one of the suspects, 18-year-old Diamond Davis, has been identified. The teens appeared in court Tuesday afternoon and a Lake County judge set bail at $1 million each. They are set to appear in court again on Sept. 5. Sheriff John Idleburg thanked the law enforcement agencies that assisted on the case at a press conference Tuesday. "Anytime there is a loss of life, it is a tragedy for the family and friends of the deceased," Idleburg added. "Our condolences go out to the family of the young man who lost his life today, despite the circumstances.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PonyTechTips462 08/15/19 10:26:03 AM #2:	Seems like this happens often... But yes, those other thieves are guilty of this death. <cite>PonyTechTips462 posted [p:926097877] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>Seems like this happens often... But yes, those other thieves are guilty of this death.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fam_Fam 08/15/19 10:28:44 AM #3:	justice was served. tough, but fair. hope the other 4 boys learned their lesson. <cite>Fam_Fam posted [p:926097980] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>justice was served. tough, but fair. hope the other 4 boys learned their lesson.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 08/15/19 10:29:24 AM #4:	Dont commit felonies in a felony murder state if you dont want to get charged when you fuck up and someone dies --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:926098004] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>Dont commit felonies in a felony murder state if you dont want to get charged when you fuck up and someone dies</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkChozoGhost 08/15/19 10:29:27 AM #5:	I don't think that's how the law should work. --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 <cite>DarkChozoGhost posted [p:926098008] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>I don't think that's how the law should work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 08/15/19 10:30:17 AM #6:	Murder: maybe. First-degree: no. I could see an argument for third degree, maybe second if you really reach, but I don't see any way they can be considered to have premeditated their companion's death in this way. --- 53 LIII 0b110101 p16 0x35 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:926098030] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>Murder: maybe. First-degree: no. I could see an argument for third degree, maybe second if you really reach, but I don't see any way they can be considered to have premeditated their companion's death in this way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bananana 08/15/19 10:58:02 AM #7:	Manslaughter imo --- http://error1355.com/ce/Bananana.html <cite>Bananana posted [p:926099003] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>Manslaughter imo </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 08/15/19 10:59:14 AM #8:	DevsBro posted... Murder: maybe. First-degree: no. I could see an argument for third degree, maybe second if you really reach, but I don't see any way they can be considered to have premeditated their companion's death in this way. Third degree murder is voluntary Manslaughter so probably not. There was definitely no accidents involved. It's probably second degree since they didn't plan on anyone getting killed but still did what they did deliberately. But I think they should be charged with accomplice/accessory to murder rather than murder itself since none of them actually killed anyone. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:926099050] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>DevsBro posted... </cite> <quote>Murder: maybe. First-degree: no. I could see an argument for third degree, maybe second if you really reach, but I don't see any way they can be considered to have premeditated their companion's death in this way.</quote>Third degree murder is voluntary Manslaughter so probably not. There was definitely no accidents involved. It's probably second degree since they didn't plan on anyone getting killed but still did what they did deliberately. But I think they should be charged with accomplice/accessory to murder rather than murder itself since none of them actually killed anyone. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ROBANN_88 08/15/19 11:35:29 AM #9:	Tyranthraxus posted... But I think they should be charged with accomplice/accessory to murder rather than murder itself since none of them actually killed anyone. Can you charge someone with accessory to murder, if you're not gonna charge someone else for murder? Cause obviously the old man should'nt be charged with it. --- https://imgur.com/cUNC8DI <cite>ROBANN_88 posted [p:926100352] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote>But I think they should be charged with accomplice/accessory to murder rather than murder itself since none of them actually killed anyone.</quote> Can you charge someone with accessory to murder, if you're not gonna charge someone else for murder? Cause obviously the old man should'nt be charged with it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 08/15/19 11:37:09 AM #10:	Felony murder laws are fucked. Here's another recent example, in which a police officer was the one pulling the trigger https://reason.com/2019/08/07/police-shot-her-boyfriend-during-a-robbery-she-was-charged-with-his-murder/?amp --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:926100426] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>Felony murder laws are fucked. Here's another recent example, in which a police officer was the one pulling the trigger https://reason.com/2019/08/07/police-shot-her-boyfriend-during-a-robbery-she-was-charged-with-his-murder/?amp</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hop103 08/15/19 11:38:56 AM #11:	They should be charged with aggravated burglary and aggravated battery, assault, or both. --- "In the name of the future moon I shall punish you"-Chibi Moon <cite>Hop103 posted [p:926100486] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>They should be charged with aggravated burglary and aggravated battery, assault, or both.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 08/15/19 11:40:07 AM #12:	ROBANN_88 posted... Can you charge someone with accessory to murder, if you're not gonna charge someone else for murder? Cause obviously the old man should'nt be charged with it. Yes I assume you can do so. What if the actual murderer was dead? Like he just killed some dude and then got an aneurysm and died himself meanwhile his look out is like what the fuck taking so long? --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:926100541] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>ROBANN_88 posted... </cite> <quote>Can you charge someone with accessory to murder, if you're not gonna charge someone else for murder? Cause obviously the old man should'nt be charged with it.</quote> Yes I assume you can do so. What if the actual murderer was dead? Like he just killed some dude and then got an aneurysm and died himself meanwhile his look out is like what the fuck taking so long? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
knutjob 08/15/19 11:45:15 AM #13:	Stupid law is stupid <cite>knutjob posted [p:926100718] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>Stupid law is stupid</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rebel_Patriot 08/15/19 11:48:29 AM #15:	Pretty standard practice. Someone should be held accountable. --- Horses?! We can't afford t'lose no horses! <cite>Rebel_Patriot posted [p:926100823] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>Pretty standard practice. Someone should be held accountable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 08/15/19 11:48:37 AM #16:	knutjob posted... Stupid law is stupid Stupid lawbreakers are stupid --- Oda break tracker 2019- 5 (4) \| THE Ohio State: 0-0 \| Oakland Raiders: 0-0 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:926100829] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>knutjob posted...</cite> <quote>Stupid law is stupid</quote> Stupid lawbreakers are stupid</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 08/15/19 11:53:28 AM #17:	fenderbender321 posted... I dont understand why they need to be charged for anything other than burglary. The precedent should be if you are threatening somebody that you might get shot. Not that you might get shot and also be held responsible for anyone who does. Just seems odd to stack it up on them. Agreed. --- There's no business to be taxed. <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:926101008] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>I dont understand why they need to be charged for anything other than burglary. The precedent should be if you are threatening somebody that you might get shot. Not that you might get shot and also be held responsible for anyone who does. Just seems odd to stack it up on them.</quote> Agreed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teepan95 08/15/19 11:54:41 AM #18:	DarkChozoGhost posted... I don't think that's how the law should work. --- I use Gameraven and you should too. "I don't f****** care about anyone's penis but mine..." - Machete <cite>teepan95 posted [p:926101032] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkChozoGhost posted...</cite> <quote>I don't think that's how the law should work.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
knutjob 08/15/19 11:58:12 AM #19:	voldothegr8 posted... knutjob posted... Stupid law is stupid Stupid lawbreakers are stupid Yeah, but not really relevant. <cite>knutjob posted [p:926101147] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote>knutjob posted...</cite> <quote>Stupid law is stupid</quote> Stupid lawbreakers are stupid</quote> Yeah, but not really relevant.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IHeartRadiation 08/15/19 12:02:57 PM #20:	Don't know why they didn't get involuntary manslaughter but I don't have much problem with it despite the aggressive sentence. --- I don't get it either. <cite>IHeartRadiation posted [p:926101324] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>Don't know why they didn't get involuntary manslaughter but I don't have much problem with it despite the aggressive sentence. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 08/15/19 12:05:32 PM #21:	teepan95 posted... I don't think that's how the law should work. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:926101406] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>teepan95 posted... </cite> <quote>I don't think that's how the law should work.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Flockaveli 08/15/19 12:08:02 PM #22:	Is this why cops get off with a slap on the wrist and a month of desk work? --- I'm in Chicago, I'm shaking my head. <cite>Flockaveli posted [p:926101490] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>Is this why cops get off with a slap on the wrist and a month of desk work?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sLaCkEr408___RJ 08/15/19 12:09:12 PM #24:	Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. Although they didn't plan out this kid's death so why are they charged with that <cite>sLaCkEr408___RJ posted [p:926101532] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. Although they didn't plan out this kid's death so why are they charged with that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paragon21XX 08/15/19 12:09:37 PM #25:	DarkChozoGhost posted... I don't think that's how the law should work. Felony murder is a widely recognized charge. --- Hmm... <cite>Paragon21XX posted [p:926101544] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkChozoGhost posted...</cite> <quote>I don't think that's how the law should work.</quote> Felony murder is a widely recognized charge.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 08/15/19 12:11:13 PM #26:	Paragon21XX posted... DarkChozoGhost posted... I don't think that's how the law should work. Felony murder is a widely recognized charge. You're responding to a "should" statement with an "is" one. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:926101607] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>Paragon21XX posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkChozoGhost posted...</cite> <quote>I don't think that's how the law should work.</quote> Felony murder is a widely recognized charge.</quote> You're responding to a "should" statement with an "is" one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CasualGuy 08/15/19 12:12:35 PM #27:	Good on the system Any loser that breaks into someones home to steal and attack them deserves a bullet or life in prison --- https://imgur.com/MoE9O68 <cite>CasualGuy posted [p:926101666] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>Good on the system Any loser that breaks into someones home to steal and attack them deserves a bullet or life in prison</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacDaMurderer 08/15/19 12:14:10 PM #28:	Really stupid that shit like this happens. Just charge it to the game and give the rest the burglary charges and the other shit for running. The person who killed the kid was cleared and thats it. No need for the murder charges at all. --- @macdamurderer GT: Mac Da Murderer <cite>MacDaMurderer posted [p:926101736] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>Really stupid that shit like this happens. Just charge it to the game and give the rest the burglary charges and the other shit for running. The person who killed the kid was cleared and thats it. No need for the murder charges at all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PIITB415 08/15/19 12:14:25 PM #29:	CasualGuy posted... Good on the system Any loser that breaks into someones home to steal and attack them deserves a bullet or life in prison This. Don't care if they are Minor's or adults. If anything, them doing it as children is an indicator of how awful they will be as adults. --- https://imgur.com/VawbBVM https://imgur.com/6Si4h <cite>PIITB415 posted [p:926101745] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>CasualGuy posted... </cite> <quote>Good on the system Any loser that breaks into someones home to steal and attack them deserves a bullet or life in prison</quote> This. Don't care if they are Minor's or adults. If anything, them doing it as children is an indicator of how awful they will be as adults. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 08/15/19 12:14:29 PM #30:	Whoa whoa whoa... what's with the click bait headline in the middle of the story about me hitting someone in the head and that was just the beginning? I didn't do that >:(. Fake News! --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>Machete posted [p:926101749] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>Whoa whoa whoa... what's with the click bait headline in the middle of the story about me hitting someone in the head and that was just the beginning? I didn't do that >:(. Fake News!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alteres 08/15/19 12:14:51 PM #31:	I think those laws were put in place so that if anyone else died regardless of if you intended it while you were committing a felony you would be charged with first degree murder. Using it if one of the criminals dies, especially by cop, is a bit ehh to me. --- ........the ghost in the machine... IGN: Fox, FC: 5344-2646-0982 <cite>Alteres posted [p:926101761] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>I think those laws were put in place so that if anyone else died regardless of if you intended it while you were committing a felony you would be charged with first degree murder. Using it if one of the criminals dies, especially by cop, is a bit ehh to me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeyondWalls 08/15/19 12:16:22 PM #32:	Exeggcute posted... charged with first degree murder "due to them being in commission of a forcible felony, I actually agree with that law in most cases. Its a pretty important law. But the spirit of the law is more like, if a bank robber murders a teller then the getaway driver can be charged with murder too. Im really not sure cases like this keeps with that original intent of the law. Im not sure that law would have got passed if they had said, Oh... by the way, if a trigger hunger cop blows away your friend then youre getting charged with that murder too. --- END OF LINE <cite>BeyondWalls posted [p:926101819] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>Exeggcute posted...</cite> <quote>charged with first degree murder "due to them being in commission of a forcible felony,</quote> I actually agree with that law in most cases. Its a pretty important law. But the spirit of the law is more like, if a bank robber murders a teller then the getaway driver can be charged with murder too. Im really not sure cases like this keeps with that original intent of the law. Im not sure that law would have got passed if they had said, Oh... by the way, if a trigger hunger cop blows away your friend then youre getting charged with that murder too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lairen 08/15/19 12:24:58 PM #33:	BeyondWalls posted... Exeggcute posted... charged with first degree murder "due to them being in commission of a forcible felony, I actually agree with that law in most cases. Its a pretty important law. But the spirit of the law is more like, if a bank robber murders a teller then the getaway driver can be charged with murder too. Im really not sure cases like this keeps with that original intent of the law. Im not sure that law would have got passed if they had said, Oh... by the way, if a trigger hunger cop blows away your friend then youre getting charged with that murder too. At this rate, no one will want to break the law.....wait.... --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:926102134] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>BeyondWalls posted...</cite> <quote>Exeggcute posted...</cite> <quote>charged with first degree murder "due to them being in commission of a forcible felony,</quote> I actually agree with that law in most cases. Its a pretty important law. But the spirit of the law is more like, if a bank robber murders a teller then the getaway driver can be charged with murder too. Im really not sure cases like this keeps with that original intent of the law. Im not sure that law would have got passed if they had said, Oh... by the way, if a trigger hunger cop blows away your friend then youre getting charged with that murder too.</quote> At this rate, no one will want to break the law.....wait....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brandunh11 08/15/19 12:25:18 PM #34:	I generally dont have an issue with felony murder laws. I think the original purpose was to hold everyone accountable for crimes committed in groups, even if only one person pulled the trigger so to speak. This prevents criminals from pointing the finger at each other and saying I didnt kill anyone!...which may technically be true but their involvement in the orchestration of the original crime ultimately lead to the killing. Without felony murder laws, many murder convictions might not happen because determining exactly who pulled the trigger can be difficult or even impossible if none of the people there (the criminals) are willing to testify against their buddy. With felony murder laws, the justice system holds them all accountable. That said, Im not 100% sure this is the best application of the laws but at the moment Im not fully against it. --- https://imgur.com/MDQBi2C <cite>brandunh11 posted [p:926102151] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>I generally dont have an issue with felony murder laws. I think the original purpose was to hold everyone accountable for crimes committed in groups, even if only one person pulled the trigger so to speak. This prevents criminals from pointing the finger at each other and saying I didnt kill anyone!...which may technically be true but their involvement in the orchestration of the original crime ultimately lead to the killing. Without felony murder laws, many murder convictions might not happen because determining exactly who pulled the trigger can be difficult or even impossible if none of the people there (the criminals) are willing to testify against their buddy. With felony murder laws, the justice system holds them all accountable. That said, Im not 100% sure this is the best application of the laws but at the moment Im not fully against it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeoShadowhen 08/15/19 12:26:26 PM #35:	Id give leniency to the one that jumped out of the car with the one who was shot. Thats a level of humanity that indicates they might be salvageable. The rest of them though... The world will be a better place without them. <cite>NeoShadowhen posted [p:926102204] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>Id give leniency to the one that jumped out of the car with the one who was shot. Thats a level of humanity that indicates they might be salvageable. The rest of them though... The world will be a better place without them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lairen 08/15/19 12:28:23 PM #36:	NeoShadowhen posted... Id give leniency to the one that jumped out of the car with the one who was shot. Thats a level of humanity that indicates they might be salvageable. The rest of them though... The world will be a better place without them. Im fine with this. --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:926102269] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>NeoShadowhen posted...</cite> <quote>Id give leniency to the one that jumped out of the car with the one who was shot. Thats a level of humanity that indicates they might be salvageable. The rest of them though... The world will be a better place without them.</quote> Im fine with this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LoDsdeath 08/15/19 12:29:01 PM #37:	Machete posted... Whoa whoa whoa... what's with the click bait headline in the middle of the story about me hitting someone in the head and that was just the beginning? I didn't do that >:(. Fake News! https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/06/16/north-carolina-break-suspect-hit-head-machete-captured/1473633001/ Yes you did! Cops, arrest this machete now! <cite>LoDsdeath posted [p:926102298] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>Machete posted...</cite> <quote>Whoa whoa whoa... what's with the click bait headline in the middle of the story about me hitting someone in the head and that was just the beginning? I didn't do that >:(. Fake News!</quote> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/06/16/north-carolina-break-suspect-hit-head-machete-captured/1473633001/ Yes you did! Cops, arrest this machete now!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 08/15/19 12:35:18 PM #38:	this nation is obsessed with punishment Bananana posted... Manslaughter imo this --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:926102572] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>this nation is obsessed with punishment <cite>Bananana posted...</cite> <quote> Manslaughter imo </quote> this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Karate_II 08/15/19 12:35:59 PM #39:	Fair, next. They all knew what could happen if they commit a crime. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. --- Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4 Mercenaries Mode,Resident Evil 6 Mercenaries Mode & Call of Duty Ghosts <cite>Mr_Karate_II posted [p:926102585] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>Fair, next. They all knew what could happen if they commit a crime. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Middle hope 08/15/19 1:30:25 PM #40:	Imagine throwing your life away stealing cars and robbing people at that young age. What a waste. --- https://i.imgtc.ws/MAd5hwq.gif <cite>Middle hope posted [p:926104901] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>Imagine throwing your life away stealing cars and robbing people at that young age. What a waste. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fam_Fam 08/15/19 1:36:24 PM #41:	BeyondWalls posted... Exeggcute posted... charged with first degree murder "due to them being in commission of a forcible felony, I actually agree with that law in most cases. Its a pretty important law. But the spirit of the law is more like, if a bank robber murders a teller then the getaway driver can be charged with murder too. Im really not sure cases like this keeps with that original intent of the law. Im not sure that law would have got passed if they had said, Oh... by the way, if a trigger hunger cop blows away your friend then youre getting charged with that murder too. You say the spirit is protecting people like the teller - in other words, people who are part of the crime are responsible for the death of people caused by their crime, regardless of if they themselves killed that person. This sounds like exactly what happened here. What's different here is that the person who was killed was killed by someone else. This would be the equivalent of if the cop killed the teller during the shootout. Would/should the bank robbers be responsible for the teller's death? <cite>Fam_Fam posted [p:926105164] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>BeyondWalls posted...</cite> <quote>Exeggcute posted...</cite> <quote>charged with first degree murder "due to them being in commission of a forcible felony,</quote> I actually agree with that law in most cases. Its a pretty important law. But the spirit of the law is more like, if a bank robber murders a teller then the getaway driver can be charged with murder too. Im really not sure cases like this keeps with that original intent of the law. Im not sure that law would have got passed if they had said, Oh... by the way, if a trigger hunger cop blows away your friend then youre getting charged with that murder too.</quote> You say the spirit is protecting people like the teller - in other words, people who are part of the crime are responsible for the death of people caused by their crime, regardless of if they themselves killed that person. This sounds like exactly what happened here. What's different here is that the person who was killed was killed by someone else. This would be the equivalent of if the cop killed the teller during the shootout. Would/should the bank robbers be responsible for the teller's death?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lyrica 08/15/19 2:34:05 PM #42:	Did the elderly guy state he had a firearm? <cite>Lyrica posted [p:926107701] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>Did the elderly guy state he had a firearm?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
biggernails 08/15/19 2:37:28 PM #43:	Machete posted... Whoa whoa whoa... what's with the click bait headline in the middle of the story about me hitting someone in the head and that was just the beginning? I didn't do that >:(. Fake News! heh heh <cite>biggernails posted [p:926107864] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>Machete posted...</cite> <quote>Whoa whoa whoa... what's with the click bait headline in the middle of the story about me hitting someone in the head and that was just the beginning? I didn't do that >:(. Fake News!</quote> heh heh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NinjaWarrior455 08/15/19 2:40:57 PM #44:	Lairen posted... NeoShadowhen posted... Id give leniency to the one that jumped out of the car with the one who was shot. Thats a level of humanity that indicates they might be salvageable. The rest of them though... The world will be a better place without them. Im fine with this. Yikes --- Super Bowl 52 Champions!!!! http://myanimelist.net/animelist/NinjaWarrior457 <cite>NinjaWarrior455 posted [p:926108018] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>Lairen posted...</cite> <quote>NeoShadowhen posted...</cite> <quote>Id give leniency to the one that jumped out of the car with the one who was shot. Thats a level of humanity that indicates they might be salvageable. The rest of them though... The world will be a better place without them.</quote> Im fine with this.</quote> Yikes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 08/15/19 2:42:27 PM #45:	Lyrica posted... Did the elderly guy state he had a firearm? He was cleared from any wrong doing so presumably --- Oda break tracker 2019- 5 (4) \| THE Ohio State: 0-0 \| Oakland Raiders: 0-0 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:926108085] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>Lyrica posted...</cite> <quote>Did the elderly guy state he had a firearm?</quote> He was cleared from any wrong doing so presumably</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Feetish 08/15/19 2:48:45 PM #46:	Fair, next. <cite>Feetish posted [p:926108351] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>Fair, next.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Philosopher_X 08/15/19 2:50:40 PM #47:	That 14 year old should have waited until they became a cop before doing this. Then they could have fired at the owner and claimed to think they were actually at their own home, and that they were afraid for their lives. Or something. --- Don't over complicate the obvious. Don't oversimplify the intricate. <cite>Philosopher_X posted [p:926108437] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>That 14 year old should have waited until they became a cop before doing this. Then they could have fired at the owner and claimed to think they were actually at their own home, and that they were afraid for their lives. Or something.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cobra1010 08/15/19 2:55:17 PM #49:	If they intended to get him killed then it's murder. Some places are stupid as fuck. --- GG Riot - https://imgur.com/PinGPhR https://imgur.com/Hs8Y1vQ <cite>Cobra1010 posted [p:926108658] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote>If they intended to get him killed then it's murder. Some places are stupid as fuck.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 08/15/19 2:55:18 PM #50:	Spooking posted... Exeggcute posted... Five Chicago teens are being charged with murder after a 14-year-old who was with them during an attempted burglary was shot by the homeowner, WhY dO YoU NeeD GuNS!? This is why. This is why you need guns. Imagine what would have happened to that old man if he didn't have a firearm on him. they'd have given him a backrub if he didn't shoot before asking questions. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:926108660] in 14-year-ol... [t:77940581]...</cite> <quote><cite>Spooking posted...</cite> <quote>Exeggcute posted...</cite> <quote> Five Chicago teens are being charged with murder after a 14-year-old who was with them during an attempted burglary was shot by the homeowner, </quote> WhY dO YoU NeeD GuNS!? This is why. This is why you need guns. Imagine what would have happened to that old man if he didn't have a firearm on him.</quote> they'd have given him a backrub if he didn't shoot before asking questions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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