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pinky0926
08/07/19 10:00:05 AM
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We started watching youtube because it was shitty amateur content that was easy and fun to watch. You just see some stupid 2 minute video and there was not a chance any of it was money driven. In short, we watched it to get away from commercial TV.

Now every video is 14 minutes long with 6 ads apiece (in 2 ad blocks), made by a professional team or streamer who has made it his job.

Impotent rant topic. I dunno, I just want a new channel for shit content.
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MeIon Bread
08/07/19 10:01:05 AM
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Most of your complains are not legitimate.
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Unsugarized_Foo
08/07/19 10:01:58 AM
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Adblocker made it so the unenlightened bear more burden

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Kraidette
08/07/19 10:04:55 AM
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God made adblock for a reason.
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pinky0926
08/07/19 10:05:51 AM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
Adblocker made it so the unenlightened bear more burden


This doesn't stop the platform from being worthy of criticising, its just a hack to get around the shit
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NeonOctopus
08/07/19 10:06:22 AM
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This is what I've been saying for years. Youtube is garbage now >_>

Kraidette posted...
God made adblock for a reason.

Adblock can't block shitty videos though
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Fossil
08/07/19 10:11:32 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
This doesn't stop the platform from being worthy of criticising, its just a hack to get around the shit

A hack that successfully works 100% of the time? Seriously what are you complaining about? If you don't use Adblock you have no right to bitch about Youtube placing ads in the videos they host. It's their service.

I have never seen an ad on Youtube from my PC or smartphone.
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IHeartRadiation
08/07/19 10:12:46 AM
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NeonOctopus posted...
Adblock can't block shitty videos though
Like to dislike ratio viewer should become a default setting.

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NinjaBreakfast
08/07/19 10:13:23 AM
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Its kinda funny to think back to what youtube was in like idk 2007 or whenever and what it is now
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DifferentialEquation
08/07/19 10:15:08 AM
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*Nintendo release new joycon colors

video game youtuber: "That's definitely worth a 10 minute video"
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pinky0926
08/07/19 10:16:26 AM
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Fossil posted...
pinky0926 posted...
This doesn't stop the platform from being worthy of criticising, its just a hack to get around the shit

A hack that successfully works 100% of the time? Seriously what are you complaining about? If you don't use Adblock you have no right to bitch about Youtube placing ads in the videos they host. It's their service.

I have never seen an ad on Youtube from my PC or smartphone.


1) workplaces typically won't allow adblock, so yes, sometimes I watch youtube videos without adblock
2) a third party unofficial solution to a problem does not excuse the product owner of criticism. Similarly, we shouldn't let bethesda off the hook for its incredibly bad attention to bug testing just because the mod community are good at making their own patches.
3) Obviously Google can do whatever they like with Youtube but that doesn't mean I can't pass comment on it, you realise it's fair to be critical of a business I'm sure?
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Fossil
08/07/19 10:31:36 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
1) workplaces typically won't allow adblock, so yes, sometimes I watch youtube videos without adblock

So you watch Youtube at work... ok. Got nothing for you there.

pinky0926 posted...
2) a third party unofficial solution to a problem does not excuse the product owner of criticism. Similarly, we shouldn't let bethesda off the hook for its incredibly bad attention to bug testing just because the mod community are good at making their own patches.

I never said it did. I'm just saying you have a guaranteed working solution so why bitch about something that you can easily circumvent? It's an utter waste of time.

pinky0926 posted...
3) Obviously Google can do whatever they like with Youtube but that doesn't mean I can't pass comment on it, you realise it's fair to be critical of a business I'm sure?

Let's be honest, Youtube doesn't care what you think. You're one of billions that use their platform. Pick and choose your battles.
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pinky0926
08/07/19 10:36:07 AM
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Are you like this in real life bro. Like when someone says, "man that sandwich sucked, that cafe ain't what it used to be" do you go on to give them a sermon to the tune of "go home and slap some mayonnaise on it, problem solved, stop wasting your energy" lol
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Jagr_68
08/07/19 10:41:33 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
I just want a new channel for shit content.


You're shit out of luck then because almost every YTer post-2015 has been a corporate Let's Play plant, a Philip DeFranco copycat, or pretty much an emulation of every long-time established content creator.

Stick with the classics.
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AloofHermit
08/07/19 10:43:27 AM
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ya youtube sucks now
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Lost_All_Senses
08/07/19 10:48:30 AM
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Lol, Im so glad I lost my angst after my teen years. Youtube is better than ever. Sorry it doesn't feel like a little wooden shack club that only "the chosen" are going to anymore.

Then again, I haven't seen ads in 2 years.
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Gafemage
08/07/19 10:48:30 AM
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Children raised on Kids YouTube are gonna be such fucked up adults. Our generation being exposed to stuff like goatse/rotten.com/etc. in middle school was probably nothing in comparison...
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kirbymuncher
08/07/19 10:49:16 AM
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there's still a decent number of active, low view/subscriber count, bizarre youtube channels out there. it's just that they are hard to find because by definition not many people know about them

here I'll give you a freebie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bLnbrgNHFE" data-time="

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9KdpOVXTUc" data-time="

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Scotty_Rogers
08/07/19 10:49:30 AM
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Gafemage posted...
Children raised on Kids YouTube are gonna be such fucked up adults. Our generation being exposed to stuff like goatse/rotten.com/etc. in middle school was probably nothing in comparison...


Goatse is still a thing? That's some early 2000s type shit.
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Lordgold666
08/07/19 10:50:12 AM
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CM_Ponch
08/07/19 10:50:55 AM
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I just want a youtube app with built in adblock
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Lost_All_Senses
08/07/19 10:51:18 AM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
Gafemage posted...
Children raised on Kids YouTube are gonna be such fucked up adults. Our generation being exposed to stuff like goatse/rotten.com/etc. in middle school was probably nothing in comparison...


Goatse is still a thing? That's some early 2000s type shit.


Big Money Salvia was still using it lol
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Gafemage
08/07/19 10:52:05 AM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
Gafemage posted...
Children raised on Kids YouTube are gonna be such fucked up adults. Our generation being exposed to stuff like goatse/rotten.com/etc. in middle school was probably nothing in comparison...


Goatse is still a thing? That's some early 2000s type shit.

The OG website is gone IIRC but the image is still everywhere. But the keyword here is was.
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TwoDoorPunkCab
08/07/19 11:01:46 AM
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if it wasn't for modern youtube i most likely wouldn't be able to watch funhaus, a channel that has kept me entertained daily for four years

youtube isn't shitty. stop following/watching shitty youtubers who only follow trends and rely on it for their income
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TwoDoorPunkCab
08/07/19 11:06:57 AM
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SerperiorThanU posted...
Remember when YouTube had annotations instead of the shitty end cards that are even worse and you could directly message other channels? Pepperidge farm remembers. Pepperidge farm also remembers when that wasnt a dead phrase


how on earth does someone prefer shitty annotations plastered all over a video telling you to subscribe or watch their other garbage, over something that appears only at the end of a video and doesn't get in the way of the content
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CM_Ponch
08/07/19 11:09:44 AM
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TwoDoorPunkCab posted...
over something that appears only at the end of a video and doesn't get in the way of the content

The end cards constantly block out/obscure the end of videos
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Fossil
08/07/19 11:15:31 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
Are you like this in real life bro. Like when someone says, "man that sandwich sucked, that cafe ain't what it used to be" do you go on to give them a sermon to the tune of "go home and slap some mayonnaise on it, problem solved, stop wasting your energy" lol

Are you really trying to compare watching videos on Youtube to complaining about a sandwich in a cafe?

For one, you can complain about the sandwich not being up to par with your expectations if you really want too. They literally exist to serve food and make the customer happy. Youtube does not.

Like I said, pick your battles and stop bitching about things you have the power to change yourself. It just shows how lazy you are.
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TwoDoorPunkCab
08/07/19 11:16:13 AM
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CM_Ponch posted...
TwoDoorPunkCab posted...
over something that appears only at the end of a video and doesn't get in the way of the content

The end cards constantly block out/obscure the end of videos


not on the videos i watch
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FrozenXylophone
08/07/19 11:18:17 AM
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Jiggy101011
08/07/19 11:19:07 AM
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You guys are watching the wrong thing if there are that many ads in a video.
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pinky0926
08/07/19 11:26:45 AM
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Fossil posted...
Are you really trying to compare watching videos on Youtube to complaining about a sandwich in a cafe?


Yeah why not? Both are services provided to customers, one is entertainment, the other is food hospitality, but fundamentally the purpose is the same: provide a service that customers want in order to make the business profitable.

For one, you can complain about the sandwich not being up to par with your expectations if you really want too. They literally exist to serve food and make the customer happy. Youtube does not.


What does youtube exist for that is fundamentally different from any other business providing a service? They want it to be profitable and popular (they're halfway there), that means it is open season for criticism. The sandwich place wants to make money too.

Still not getting why you can criticise the sandwich shop for the food they make but not the media company for the shit they push. \_()_/

None of what I'm saying here means youtube has to change how it operates, it's just what I think about what they're doing.

Like I said, pick your battles and stop bitching about things you have the power to change yourself. It just shows how lazy you are.


That's some bullshit right there, because:

1) Me taking extra unofficial steps to correct a company's actions doesn't dissolve the company of criticism for taking those actions
2) you're overestimating what I expect to come out of an impotent rant topic
3) You really wanna throw shade about "picking your battles" when you decided it would be a good use of your time to argue about this subject on gamefaqs.com for the last hour, lmao
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TwoDoorPunkCab
08/07/19 11:37:04 AM
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SerperiorThanU posted...
Annotations can be turned off. End cards cant.


annotations were only used to spam. a tiny minority used them correctly

SerperiorThanU posted...
Annotations can be put in at specific times to make little corrections or point out something that you forgot to mention. End cards cant.


very few users used them for that

SerperiorThanU posted...
And with the removal of friend lists and private messages its just extremely anti-user to all but the biggest channels.


this is just wrong

SerperiorThanU posted...
what with only being able to scroll down rather than click on pages and skip to specific section, a shadowban mechanic that silently prevents you from commenting too much unless you get likes, which hurts you if youre just trying to update multiple people on something.


no one cares about that shit
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IShall_Run_Amok
08/07/19 11:40:04 AM
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Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny only has 23 million views.
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Fossil
08/07/19 11:46:27 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
Still not getting why you can criticise the sandwich shop for the food they make but not the media company for the shit they push. \_()_/

You're criticizing something that you have the power to change but because it's an "extra unofficial step" suddenly changes everything. It doesn't. This is you being too lazy to solve a simple problem. Are you not savvy with computers and scared to install an add-on or what?

pinky0926 posted...
3) You really wanna throw shade about "picking your battles" when you decided it would be a good use of your time to argue about this subject on gamefaqs.com for the last hour, lmao

You're right, hitting refresh every 15 or so minutes and taking a minute to respond is the equivelant of wasting an hour of my time. I'm so glad you can math. I knew there was a reason I had you tagged as "idiot".

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Feline_Heart
08/07/19 11:51:17 AM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
Lol, Im so glad I lost my angst after my teen years. Youtube is better than ever. Sorry it doesn't feel like a little wooden shack club that only "the chosen" are going to anymore.

Then again, I haven't seen ads in 2 years.

Youtube peaked around 2015 or 2016. Its so fucking boring now
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pinky0926
08/07/19 12:10:48 PM
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Fossil posted...
You're criticizing something that you have the power to change but because it's an "extra unofficial step" suddenly changes everything. It doesn't. This is you being too lazy to solve a simple problem. Are you not savvy with computers and scared to install an add-on or what?


Weird take man, for two reasons;

1) You have the power to change the sandwich too. Maybe you think the bread they use is terrible. Why not bring your own bread in next time and swap it out, slap it on yourself just the way you like it. Nothing wrong with the sandwich now is there? So don't complain about how they make it. Seem reasonable? Or maybe is it just fair to admit that it's ok to say you think the sandwich sucks with no particular goal in mind when saying so.

The better argument you might have made is that the sandwich actually costs money whereas youtube is a free service paid for by advertising and therefore being subjected to the nuisance of commercialisation is just a reality we should accept given the size of the platform...but you didn't go there.

2) You read and replied to the bit I wrote about not being able to use adblock at work. You might have figured out from that that my machine is locked down to not allow plugins like that. You could also have work out that this means I use adblock at home.

(I work in software development, btw. This has nothing to do with tech savviness.)

pinky0926 posted...
You're right, hitting refresh every 15 or so minutes and taking a minute to respond is the equivelant of wasting an hour of my time. I'm so glad you can math. I knew there was a reason I had you tagged as "idiot".

Oh, obligatory "lmao" because it implies I'm not taking this too seriously, like you. :)


You have over the course of an hour written around 300 words - taking care to reply to my points in individual quote blocks - in defense of the idea that it's utterly stupid for someone to waste their time fighting pointless battles on the internet.

Nice one! Point made.
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Lost_All_Senses
08/07/19 12:25:53 PM
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Feline_Heart posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...
Lol, Im so glad I lost my angst after my teen years. Youtube is better than ever. Sorry it doesn't feel like a little wooden shack club that only "the chosen" are going to anymore.

Then again, I haven't seen ads in 2 years.

Youtube peaked around 2015 or 2016. Its so fucking boring now


Just go back and watch old shit. I just find new people I like every week/month and binge their content until Im bored. Then I move on while still getting small doses of stuff with longevity. I don't understand how more content is somehow worse, unless you refuse to watch anything older than a month or something
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02fran
08/07/19 12:36:09 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
Feline_Heart posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...
Lol, Im so glad I lost my angst after my teen years. Youtube is better than ever. Sorry it doesn't feel like a little wooden shack club that only "the chosen" are going to anymore.

Then again, I haven't seen ads in 2 years.

Youtube peaked around 2015 or 2016. Its so fucking boring now


Just go back and watch old shit. I just find new people I like every week/month and binge their content until Im bored. Then I move on while still getting small doses of stuff with longevity. I don't understand how more content is somehow worse, unless you refuse to watch anything older than a month or something


Except there is no more old shit. Copyright trolls have exploded and so has youtubes trigger-happy automod system. Out of the 1,000 2007-2012 videos Ive favorited only 60ish remain and all my old subscriptions are gone. Finding pre-2014 videos that are still alive is like finding treasure.
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Feline_Heart
08/07/19 12:47:03 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
Feline_Heart posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...
Lol, Im so glad I lost my angst after my teen years. Youtube is better than ever. Sorry it doesn't feel like a little wooden shack club that only "the chosen" are going to anymore.

Then again, I haven't seen ads in 2 years.

Youtube peaked around 2015 or 2016. Its so fucking boring now


Just go back and watch old shit. I just find new people I like every week/month and binge their content until Im bored. Then I move on while still getting small doses of stuff with longevity. I don't understand how more content is somehow worse, unless you refuse to watch anything older than a month or something

People used to just make videos for fun or because they had some wacky idea that they wanted to share. Most people do youtube now because they want to make it big and get a shit ton of money like pewdiepie or jennamarbles or whoever. They come across as fake and everyone's videos feel incredibly similar and they all have the same cringey clickbait thumbnails. Yeah, there's still good channels out there but for the most part Youtube now is just millions of people who are clones of each other.
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Lost_All_Senses
08/07/19 12:53:09 PM
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Feline_Heart posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...
Feline_Heart posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...
Lol, Im so glad I lost my angst after my teen years. Youtube is better than ever. Sorry it doesn't feel like a little wooden shack club that only "the chosen" are going to anymore.

Then again, I haven't seen ads in 2 years.

Youtube peaked around 2015 or 2016. Its so fucking boring now


Just go back and watch old shit. I just find new people I like every week/month and binge their content until Im bored. Then I move on while still getting small doses of stuff with longevity. I don't understand how more content is somehow worse, unless you refuse to watch anything older than a month or something

People used to just make videos for fun or because they had some wacky idea that they wanted to share. Most people do youtube now because they want to make it big and get a shit ton of money like pewdiepie or jennamarbles or whoever. They come across as fake and everyone's videos feel incredibly similar and they all have the same cringey clickbait thumbnails. Yeah, there's still good channels out there but for the most part Youtube now is just millions of people who are clones of each other.


I feel like I can pick out most of the things they do that's not genuine so it doesn't bother me. When they do it I just think "yeah boy, get your money" lol. Plus, anybody with a good amount of friend tweak their performance in front of different friends. Nothing wrong with small amounts of pandering when you know people will get a kick out of it. These people are just doing it on a much higher level and turning it into a job. If someones not influenced by how others react to them it's probably cause they're a hardheaded asshole imo.
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