Current Events > Woman reports man to his employers for calling her son the n word while driving.

(+) Yeah! (+)

And possibly getting him fired.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/cmh276/aita_for_doublereporting_an_employee_to_his_boss/
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I tried to read some comments but the fuckers wouldn't stop talking about Karen.

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He was in a company vehicle. He deserved it.


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chrono625 posted...

He was in a company vehicle. He deserved it.

Can't pull up the link for whatever reason but if true, yeah. He totally deserved it regardless, but even more so if he did it like that.
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gunplagirl posted...

chrono625 posted...

He was in a company vehicle. He deserved it.

Can't pull up the link for whatever reason but if true, yeah. He totally deserved it regardless, but even more so if he did it like that.

she reported it to the company. two months later, she sees a company photo with him in it on their facebook and gets pissed that he still has a job so she calls corporate and reports it again.
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MwarriorHiei posted...

gunplagirl posted...

chrono625 posted...

He was in a company vehicle. He deserved it.

Can't pull up the link for whatever reason but if true, yeah. He totally deserved it regardless, but even more so if he did it like that.

she reported it to the company. two months later, she sees a company photo with him in it on their facebook and gets pissed that he still has a job so she calls corporate and reports it again.

Still fair, next. Racists have no place in society.
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first time is justified, but reporting it again two months later is just her out for revenge. cant really make a call without knowing if the guy got punished the first time or not tho.
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MwarriorHiei posted...

first time is justified, but reporting it again two months later is just her out for revenge. cant really make a call without knowing if the guy got punished the first time or not tho.

This. Can't call fair next without knowing the first punishment, if any.
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MwarriorHiei posted...

first time is justified, but reporting it again two months later is just her out for revenge. cant really make a call without knowing if the guy got punished the first time or not tho.

This. The company was already aware of it, she was just being vindictive without even consulting other people.

Is she going to report him a third time if he still works there?
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Yeah she kind of is an asshole for the second report.
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MwarriorHiei posted...

first time is justified, but reporting it again two months later is just her out for revenge. cant really make a call without knowing if the guy got punished the first time or not tho.

Okay but have you considered

Racists have no place in society, and tolerating racism is also bad (though not on the same level, obviously)
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DeadBankerDream posted...

Yeah she kind of is an asshole for the second report.

If I owned a company and one of my employees was tossing around racial and trash language at people in a company vehicle I'd be pissed and wouldn't tolerate that shit. I wouldn't tolerate that shit in general.

If I had a franchise and one of the workers pulled this shit and even though he was reported on and nothing happened I'd fire him and I'd come close to firing whoever ignored it.

If they have dash cam footage and can review that to be 100% certain it happened thats even worse.

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Not at all surprised to see whos defending a racist
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chrono625 posted...

DeadBankerDream posted...

Yeah she kind of is an asshole for the second report.

If I owned a company and one of my employees was tossing around racial and trash language at people in a company vehicle I'd be pissed and wouldn't tolerate that shit. I wouldn't tolerate that shit in general.

If I had a franchise and one of the workers pulled this shit and even though he was reported on and nothing happened I'd fire him and I'd come close to firing whoever ignored it.

If they have dash cam footage and can review that to be 100% certain it happened thats even worse.

I don't disagree with any of that.

The act of the second report despite a lack of knowledge of what happened with the first one other than "he did not get fired" is still assholic.
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Fuck him, dude deserves to get fired and fuck the company for letting him get away with that shit. I pull that at my job I'll be fired on spot

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I don't have a problem with her going higher up in the company to complain about this guy. It's not like she made up a second encounter or anything.

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I don't disagree with him being reported and wouldn't mind if he was fired but i'm not going to tell other people how to run their company. Nobody knows what his punishment was, maybe he's working without pay for a few checks, maybe mandatory overtime, maybe suspended without pay, saying what YOU might have done adds nothing to the conversation and if you don't like it then just don't use the company.
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DeadBankerDream posted...

chrono625 posted...

DeadBankerDream posted...

Yeah she kind of is an asshole for the second report.

If I owned a company and one of my employees was tossing around racial and trash language at people in a company vehicle I'd be pissed and wouldn't tolerate that shit. I wouldn't tolerate that shit in general.

If I had a franchise and one of the workers pulled this shit and even though he was reported on and nothing happened I'd fire him and I'd come close to firing whoever ignored it.

If they have dash cam footage and can review that to be 100% certain it happened thats even worse.

I don't disagree with any of that.

The act of the second report despite a lack of knowledge of what happened with the first one other than "he did not get fired" is still assholic.

How is it assholic? Have you ever had to call customer service, gotten the run-around, then had to call back again a few days later because they didn't actually fix whatever it was they were supposed to. You have to actually assert yourself when those situations arise. This isn't any different. Like, if they didn't fire the guy she could always have just gone straight to suing the company because the guy was clearly representing the company at the time he harassed her son. And as the company hadn't fired the guy, legally that's giving room to say that they accept responsibility for his actions.

Would you prefer that she'd contact corporate first to seek a resolution, or just go straight to a lawsuit that would definitely result in a fast settlement?
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MwarriorHiei posted...

first time is justified, but reporting it again two months later is just her out for revenge. cant really make a call without knowing if the guy got punished the first time or not tho.

She can and did. Obviously it was not handled to her satisfaction the first time around, so she escalated

Why are we giving racists the benefit of a doubt here

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Akagami_Shanks posted...

I don't disagree with him being reported and wouldn't mind if he was fired but i'm not going to tell other people how to run their company. Nobody knows what his punishment was, maybe he's working without pay for a few checks, maybe mandatory overtime, maybe suspended without pay, saying what YOU might have done adds nothing to the conversation and if you don't like it then just don't use the company.

Bringing up hypothetical things that might have happened to him while saying others shouldn't bring up unrelated things is laughable. By that, I mean you bringing up work without pay for a few checks which isn't a thing for these situations, mandatory overtime would just mean more money in his pocket unless he's salaried, etc.

Meanwhile, going to corporate can actually get them to contact her at a later date and inform her what, if anything, happened following her first report as well as if they've done anything following her contacting corporate.
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He was in a company vehicle so yeah fair next.
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Let's be real. Racism is still very normalized and not everybody is going to agree that firing somebody over it is prudent. Especially if he's a blue collar worker who gets shit done. Even more true when there's no non-employer facing evidence. Meaning, only the employers can see what happened and can push it under the rug. She would have to make a really big deal for them to take action. We also don't know if action was taken despite not being fired.

I definitely believe it happened but it's the sad reality of the world. Not everybody is on the same page yet and it will take decades before we are. This includes people of all colors and walks of life before the usual white people here jump on the "fuck the right/Trump supporters" rhetoric.

Racism, sexism, and LGBT-phobia are 100% not limited to a group of white righteys. If you think so, you need to interact with people more.
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eston posted...

She can and did. Obviously it was not handled to her satisfaction the first time around, so she escalated

Why are we giving racists the benefit of a doubt here

For some reason they always give racists the benefit of doubt.

And ger calling twice is fine. Its called following up to make sure your complaint was taken seriously. Doesnt make her an ass at all.

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That subreddit is stupid as hell
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And what if the guy didn't ACTUALLY use that language? What if he just shouted learn to drive" or honked his born or something, and the lady really WAS just being a Karen?

You want a company to terminate someone with no proof of wrongdoing?

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eston posted...

She can and did. Obviously it was not handled to her satisfaction the first time around, so she escalated

Why are we giving racists the benefit of a doubt here

EwokCommanda posted...

You want a company to terminate someone with no proof of wrongdoing?

Yes. If hes actually innocent then too bad so sad. HES A WHITE MALE
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iPhone_7 posted...

EwokCommanda posted...

You want a company to terminate someone with no proof of wrongdoing?

Yes. If hes actually innocent then too bad so sad. HES A WHITE MALE

Story says theres dashcam fotage.
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How do we know her side of the story actually happened?
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DeadBankerDream posted...

iPhone_7 posted...

EwokCommanda posted...

You want a company to terminate someone with no proof of wrongdoing?

Yes. If hes actually innocent then too bad so sad. HES A WHITE MALE

Story says theres dashcam fotage.

Well then there is proof. His career on a spike, Now
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DeadBankerDream posted...

iPhone_7 posted...

EwokCommanda posted...

You want a company to terminate someone with no proof of wrongdoing?

Yes. If hes actually innocent then too bad so sad. HES A WHITE MALE

Story says theres dashcam fotage.

The company runs dash cams... I am certain they reviewed the footage and found nothing.
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MaverickXeo posted...

DeadBankerDream posted...

iPhone_7 posted...

EwokCommanda posted...

You want a company to terminate someone with no proof of wrongdoing?

Yes. If hes actually innocent then too bad so sad. HES A WHITE MALE

Story says theres dashcam fotage.

The company runs dash cams... I am certain they reviewed the footage and found nothing.

Lol
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MaverickXeo posted...

The company runs dash cams... I am certain they reviewed the footage and found nothing.

Then whats the issue? Seems a lot of people are assuming that going to the higher ups means the man will be immediately fired with no research done by the people who received the second report.
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MaverickXeo posted...

How do we know her side of the story actually happened?

There's dashcam footage that would have to be reviewed before any action is actually taken. Not that you really care. ""But what if actually everything is lies" is completely useless as far as attempting to poke holes in stuff like this goes unless you have some sort of basis to go on that a lie would be getting told

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Calling the first time was fine. The second time is petty.

If you are one of my top worker's i wouldn't fire for that. 1 mistake shouldn't mean you are done. Everyone here at one point or another fucked up.
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LockeMonster posted...

Let's be real. Racism is still very normalized and not everybody is going to agree that firing somebody over it is prudent. Especially if he's a blue collar worker who gets shit done. Even more true when there's no non-employer facing evidence. Meaning, only the employers can see what happened and can push it under the rug. She would have to make a really big deal for them to take action. We also don't know if action was taken despite not being fired.

True enough. My friend who works a blue collar job told me story about an altercation between two workers. They were at a company event and everyone was drinking. A black guy was popping off about something and a white coworker says to him, "you're such a n*****." The black guys bitch slaps him and knocks him down. No one got fired or tried to get each other fired. They just went back to work Monday and moved on.
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MaverickXeo posted...

The company runs dash cams... I am certain they reviewed the footage and found nothing.

Lol, dude not even trying to hid his bias.

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The_True_King posted...

Calling the first time was fine. The second time is petty.

If you are one of my top worker's i wouldn't fire for that. 1 mistake shouldn't mean you are done. Everyone here at one point or another fucked up.

Lmao thats not a mistake tf

The_True_King posted...

Calling the first time was fine. The second time is petty.

If you are one of my top worker's i wouldn't fire for that. 1 mistake shouldn't mean you are done. Everyone here at one point or another fucked up.

The guy made multiple fuck ups to the point that he eventually came to see black people as inferior and that the n-word is thus acceptable as a swear meant to demean them. So I guess my question is, do you think racists who do their job should get special treatment by not being fired despite making your business look bad? Note that I'm not suggesting you are giving them special treatment, I'm merely asking for clarity as I'm uncertain if that's your intent and I would hate to attribute such a thing to you without first having you confirm it yourself.
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gunplagirl posted...

fair, next

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I would only want someone fired if they had a repeated history of this. If it's a one time thing, and they apologize and repent for an angry outburst, then it's water under the bridge. A revenge campaign isn't my style. If the person is open to it, I'd prefer a handshake and a "I'm sorry, man. I really didn't mean it and it won't happen again." type scenario.
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If an angry outburst involves using racial slurs, you might be a racist
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Dyinglegacy posted...

I would only want someone fired if they had a repeated history of this. If it's a one time thing, and they apologize and repent for an angry outburst, then it's water under the bridge. A revenge campaign isn't my style. If the person is open to it, I'd prefer a handshake and a "I'm sorry, man. I really didn't mean it and it won't happen again." type scenario.

Holy shit lmao

soulunison2 posted...

Dyinglegacy posted...

I would only want someone fired if they had a repeated history of this. If it's a one time thing, and they apologize and repent for an angry outburst, then it's water under the bridge. A revenge campaign isn't my style. If the person is open to it, I'd prefer a handshake and a "I'm sorry, man. I really didn't mean it and it won't happen again." type scenario.

Holy shit lmao

Holy shit, what?
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He hopefully learned his lesson and won't cut anyone off again, good learns this early on. But they learned that immediately since the mom claimed she waved sorry.

The guy still shouldn't have said that, but I'm sure he just says the most vile, offensive term he can think. And I've been cut off before, absolutly I have given the finger from behind (usually out of view) and may have muttered things privately. But usually 5 seconds later its over, and I'm over it. I would never go out of my way to go next to the person, put my window down and yell at then.

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Dyinglegacy posted...

soulunison2 posted...

Dyinglegacy posted...

I would only want someone fired if they had a repeated history of this. If it's a one time thing, and they apologize and repent for an angry outburst, then it's water under the bridge. A revenge campaign isn't my style. If the person is open to it, I'd prefer a handshake and a "I'm sorry, man. I really didn't mean it and it won't happen again." type scenario.

Holy shit lmao

Holy shit, what?

FursonaNonGrata posted...

If an angry outburst involves using racial slurs, you might be a racist

soulunison2 posted...

If an angry outburst involves using racial slurs, you might be a racist

Maybe, but it's also not an incurable disease. A person can turn around and do better.
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Dyinglegacy posted...

soulunison2 posted...

If an angry outburst involves using racial slurs, you might be a racist

Maybe, but it's also not an incurable disease. A person can turn around and do better.

Yeah for sure but pulling up to someone rolling down your window and calling them a racial slur is far from a mistake....

But Im probably being trolled so

If this is the guy's reaction to a minor traffic incident which didn't even involve collision then there's no way it was a one time thing, lol

No company wants someone like that interacting with the public on their behalf

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i always have trouble believing these are real
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