Current Events > Do you think Falcon ever feels embarrased when Iron Man is around?(MCU spoilers*

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"I have metal bird wings which makes me fly and I fire a gun" just seems adorable by comparison

Like rolling up next to the Death Star with an 18th century canon and going "I can shoot at planets too!"

People give Black Widow and Clint shit for not having powers but at least they don't like carry a hammer and sparkler or green pummel fists. They do them.

Falcon in the MCU feels like the Suicide Squad stories were Captain Boomerang is with Deadshot and gets inceasingly frustrated that Deadshot is superior to him in literally every way.
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hey, man, he's doing his best
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Considering Sam embarrassed Tony in Civil War, twice, I doubt it.

That's part of what bothers me, but the other thing is that he needs goddamn hat or helmet or something. That visor is as dumb as gen 1 Cyclops with his full body condom.
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Maze_ posted...

People give Black Widow and Clint s*** for not having powers but at least they don't like carry a hammer and sparkler or green pummel fists. They do them.

And yet Hulk and Thor would turn both into bloody paste if either were shooting to kill. A normal human might be able to survive one lightning strike, but not 30, and Hulk is faster then a truck and hits just as hard. Dont think for a second Nat or Clint can stand up to them, they cant. And thats movie Hulk and Thor. It only gets worse for them in the comics.
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Falcon is the worst mcu hero. He only got in because he was Steve's jogging buddy and happened to own a jet pack.
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At least he's alive
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Jiek_Fafn posted...

Falcon is the worst mcu hero. He only got in because he was Steve's jogging buddy and happened to own a jet pack.

They should build on the upgrade he got in the comics. He got hard light wings and a vibranium suit, but that still just feels like iron man jr. Give him some good ol' anime wing powers. Let him shoot light blades or something.
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Falcon: "Sometimes, you don't have to keep up with the Joneses. You just have to outlast them." #StillAlive

Jiek_Fafn posted...

Falcon is the worst mcu hero. He only got in because he was Steve's jogging buddy and happened to own a jet pack.

lol he really did
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He's there because Anthony Mackie campaigned for the position so that black youth could have a superhero of their own. Now that Steve's been written out, Sam should become the new Captain America.

EnvoyOfTheLight posted...

Jiek_Fafn posted...

Falcon is the worst mcu hero. He only got in because he was Steve's jogging buddy and happened to own a jet pack.

They should build on the upgrade he got in the comics. He got hard light wings and a vibranium suit, but that still just feels like iron man jr. Give him some good ol' anime wing powers. Let him shoot light blades or something.

He had those when he came back in Endgame. Weird how little he uses them though.

One of the lamest heroes in the MCU for sure. Only Hawkeye is worse.

Didn't he also have bird like vision? He was able to find Ant-Man in the grass when he was tiny.
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Duncanwii posted...

Maze_ posted...

People give Black Widow and Clint s*** for not having powers but at least they don't like carry a hammer and sparkler or green pummel fists. They do them.

And yet Hulk and Thor would turn both into bloody paste if either were shooting to kill. A normal human might be able to survive one lightning strike, but not 30, and Hulk is faster then a truck and hits just as hard. Dont think for a second Nat or Clint can stand up to them, they cant. And thats movie Hulk and Thor. It only gets worse for them in the comics.

Wtf does that have to do with his point? He's not discussing a Death Battle, he's saying that MCU Falcon is even more of a bargain bin Iron man than Rhodey is.
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And then Stark rubs it in by giving Spider-Man and Pepper Pots suits, Black Widow and Hawkeye must have been all 'we didn't get a suit when we joined, and Parker has super power, sad'

Falcon's always been lame. A hero whose only "power" is that he can fly? Dumb.
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He should tbh. I hate Falcon. Easily the worst MCU Hero, feels like every single line of dialogue he ever says is lame as fuck. Fitting I suppose, to match his lame abilities.
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BipBapBam posted...

He should tbh. I hate Falcon. Easily the worst MCU Hero, feels like every single line of dialogue he ever says is lame as fuck. Fitting I suppose, to match his lame abilities.

He's better than Bucky and Rhodes.
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Rule of thumb: if you can kick an alien's ass, you deserve to be an Avenger. And Falcon literally gutted a big alien in Endgame.

AmericaTheBrave posted...

Falcon's always been lame. A hero whose only "power" is that he can fly? Dumb.

he can communicate with birds, genius
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Duncanwii posted...

Maze_ posted...

People give Black Widow and Clint s*** for not having powers but at least they don't like carry a hammer and sparkler or green pummel fists. They do them.

And yet Hulk and Thor would turn both into bloody paste if either were shooting to kill. A normal human might be able to survive one lightning strike, but not 30, and Hulk is faster then a truck and hits just as hard. Dont think for a second Nat or Clint can stand up to them, they cant. And thats movie Hulk and Thor. It only gets worse for them in the comics.

Civil War 2, man.

Hawkeye literally killed Bruce Banner.

Kajagogo posted...

Didn't he also have bird like vision? He was able to find Ant-Man in the grass when he was tiny.

With his visor.
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coh posted...

One of the lamest heroes in the MCU for sure. Only Hawkeye is worse.

I think Clint is way better than Falcon

Has personality and doesn't just do stuff other people do better
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Wouldn't that be War Machine with Iron Man?

Falc is still a soldier and great at combat. Plus he had Redwing.
War Machine was literally just: imma shoot things and fly.
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His knees must be hella sore from all of his landings
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Maze_ posted...

rolling up next to the Death Star with an 18th century canon

18th century canon would WRECK a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...

Falc is still a soldier and great at combat. Plus he had Redwing.
War Machine was literally just: imma shoot things and fly

Rhodey is literally a colonel in the Air Force. That's kind of his job...... >_>
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Kastrada posted...

Rhodey is literally a colonel in the Air Force. That's kind of his job...... >_>

Nah I mean in terms of his powerset.
He can fly but Iron Man has better control. He doesn't have energy weapons, just convential ones.
At least Falcon is a bit more useful. War Machine is more like the howitzer. Falcon is the fucking heavy calvary.
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Kastrada posted...

RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...

Falc is still a soldier and great at combat. Plus he had Redwing.
War Machine was literally just: imma shoot things and fly

Rhodey is literally a colonel in the Air Force. That's kind of his job...... >_>

Don't forget that scene in Infinity War were Falcon is like "Pew pew" and kills 3 guys while flipping around

Then War Machine just goes "Bitch fuck off" and instantly blows up an entire frontline with bombs in seconds.
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Maze_ posted...

Then War Machine just goes "Bitch fuck off" and instantly blows up an entire frontline with bombs in seconds.

Which run out
Then what does he do?

That's my point. War Machine has limited physical weapons. Falcon doesn't.
Plus his wings are bullet proof
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...

Nah I mean in terms of his powerset.
He can fly but Iron Man has better control. He doesn't have energy weapons, just convential ones.
At least Falcon is a bit more useful. War Machine is more like the howitzer. Falcon is the fucking heavy calvary.

Ok but you bring up Falcon being a soldier but so is WM. Outside of Cap, he'd be the best military strategist the Avengers have.

He can do things that other people can't, especially Tony. Tony has a lot of technological plans for different events but in battle when the worst comes to worse he just goes on suicide missions.
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The point I'm making is that once War Machine blows his load, he's done. Like in Expendables 3, for example, which starred Ronda Rousey (one of the greatest actresses of all time).

But that aside, has Rodey actually come up with any strategies? From what I remember it was either Captain America or Tony calling the shots.
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...

The point I'm making is that once War Machine blows his load, he's done.

I guess Falcon has an infinite ammo cheat or something...
I know you're referring to using his wings as weapons, but it's cute how you do that while disregarding the man in full armor that can throw cars, punch through concrete,...
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fusespliff posted...

I guess Falcon has an infinite ammo cheat or something...

His wings don't have ammo

fusespliff posted...

I know you're referring to using his wings as weapons, but it's cute how you do that while disregarding the man in full armor that can throw cars, punch through concrete,...

Okay, let's do a search
"car" appeared 3 times on this pagem once in your post, once in this post quoting you and once just now.

So you're saying I ignored stuff that you never said.

You're trolling, have fun with someone else taking your bait. I'm done.
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...

But that aside, has Rodey actually come up with any strategies? From what I remember it was either Captain America or Tony calling the shots.

Well I already said Cap is the better strategist.

And just because Tony is calling most of the shots doesn't make him a better tactician. It means that RDJ is the face of the franchise.

It's just common sense though. Who would be the better military strategist: a decorated, battle hardened Colonel in the US Air Force with years of service under his belt or an alcoholic billionaire tech genius who is constantly butting heads with everyone from government officials to his own teammates. >_>
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...

fusespliff posted...

I guess Falcon has an infinite ammo cheat or something...

His wings don't have ammo

fusespliff posted...

I know you're referring to using his wings as weapons, but it's cute how you do that while disregarding the man in full armor that can throw cars, punch through concrete,...

Okay, let's do a search
"car" appeared 3 times on this pagem once in your post, once in this post quoting you and once just now.

So you're saying I ignored stuff that you never said.

You're trolling, have fun with someone else taking your bait. I'm done.

What? Wtf does it matter how many times car has been said?
My point is that when all ammo is spent if you count the dude using wings as blades as useful... You'd better count the dude in full armor who has a great deal of strength (and flies like Falcon does) due to said armor as more useful at that time.

I'm not trolling. This misunderstanding is entirely on you
"Disregard the dude that can throw cars" =/= "disregarding an earlier statement I made regarding said dude"
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I dont recall war machine going "I'm out of ammo" or Falcon being described as having Lara croft pistols

Only Avenger that seemed to rub out of ammo was Clint
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GhettoFlip posted...

AmericaTheBrave posted...

Falcon's always been lame. A hero whose only "power" is that he can fly? Dumb.

he can communicate with birds, genius

Has MCU Falcon ever done that?
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Yeah but captain boomerang is dope
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Kajagogo posted...

Didn't he also have bird like vision? He was able to find Ant-Man in the grass when he was tiny.

What movie was that in? Totally spacing
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Bucky is worse, he became stale and boring after WS. He doesn't use his cool arm in combat anymore he's just generic gun guy with no personality.
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true, but he's still superhuman, and an expert at hand-to-hand like Black Panther and Captain America.

anyway, Falcon is a lot more versatile than someone like Hawkeye, and the only edge that Black Widow has over him is her spy abilities.
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He reminds me of Quill. His main asset is his tech and the intelligence which he uses it with. Its pretty simple but combined with some tactics, Sam is a one-man army in a firefight, and more than a match for many hand-to-hand combatants.

Compare to Quill, who went toe-to-toe with Tony using his gravity well grenades, and stopped Parker in his tracks. Sure, he has backup, but he can play with the heavy hitters just fine.
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Alot of the MCU characters have been severely nerfed from their current comic counterparts
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tullock posted...

Kajagogo posted...

Didn't he also have bird like vision? He was able to find Ant-Man in the grass when he was tiny.

What movie was that in? Totally spacing

First Ant-Man movie

Ahh that's right. I haven't seen that since it came out. Thanks man
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RieTakahash posted...

Yeah but captain boomerang is dope

Agreed
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boxington posted...

true, but he's still superhuman, and an expert at hand-to-hand like Black Panther and Captain America.

anyway, Falcon is a lot more versatile than someone like Hawkeye, and the only edge that Black Widow has over him is her spy abilities.

I totally agree BUT

Black Widow would body Falcon any day of the week.

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Jerry_Hellyeah posted...

boxington posted...

true, but he's still superhuman, and an expert at hand-to-hand like Black Panther and Captain America.

anyway, Falcon is a lot more versatile than someone like Hawkeye, and the only edge that Black Widow has over him is her spy abilities.

I totally agree BUT

Black Widow would body Falcon any day of the week.

Everyone in the Avengers can take Falcon

Black Panther's sister could take Falcon

Wouldn't surprise me if Bruce Banner without turning into the Hulk took Falcon
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We forgetting that Cap deferred to Falcon to come up with the plan in Civil War?
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