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Led-Zeppelin
08/01/19 5:59:41 PM
#51:


damn she cute af. not sure how she wasnt getting hit on all the time already
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EnvoyOfTheLight
08/01/19 6:00:08 PM
#52:


DarthAragorn posted...
EnvoyOfTheLight posted...
DarthAragorn posted...
Women can't be in incels because any of them could go out to a bar and find somebody willing to fuck them. Can't say the same for the vast majority of incels.


I've read testimonies where they do that and still cannot.

Either bullshit or they're like 400 pounds.


They could be 400 pounds, that doesn't change any part of the argument?
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DarthAragorn
08/01/19 6:00:22 PM
#53:


Led-Zeppelin posted...
damn she cute af. not sure how she wasnt getting hit on all the time already

probably was, just not by 9/10s
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EnvoyOfTheLight
08/01/19 6:00:50 PM
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NonDairyMiltank posted...
when a woman fits the type, she's more bummed out about not KEEPING a bf and maintaining a LONG TERM relationship she thinks she entitled to


I'll believe it if you can source it, but this really does sound like something you just made up. I know women have been in the situation you describe, but no one has ever called that being an incel before.
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bobaban
08/01/19 6:03:13 PM
#55:


CommonStar posted...
Mini Bagel dude kinda did the same thing. Incel behaved badly in public and got rewarded for it.


Hes not even incel lol. Hes been married and has vids of him with some chick. He has low inhib so its not unreasonable

Incel is likely a very ugly/short/High inhib person.
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Aloner
08/01/19 6:03:29 PM
#56:


A lot of "femcels" are just butthurt about not finding a suitable boyfriend, as if that's at all comparable to never getting to experience any sort of relationship or contact with the opposite sex at all.
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DarthWendy
08/01/19 6:05:12 PM
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#femcels
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NonDairyMiltank
08/01/19 6:13:08 PM
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EnvoyOfTheLight posted...
NonDairyMiltank posted...
when a woman fits the type, she's more bummed out about not KEEPING a bf and maintaining a LONG TERM relationship she thinks she entitled to


I'll believe it if you can source it, but this really does sound like something you just made up. I know women have been in the situation you describe, but no one has ever called that being an incel before.

cause youre focusing way too much on the exact word

there are women who are actively just as bitter as male "incels" about their relationship issues
you yourself are sayin you met women who are what i described, thats all im tryin to get across

if you don't accept that cause its not an exact equivalent, okay, but my overall point was yeah there are bitter pessimistic women who are similarly hateful, sexist, and bitchy about not gettin what they think theyre entitled to with relationships

i know from my experiences as a woman myself and a lesbian who dates and dodged some of these bitches
there ARE women who fit practically the same description of whats usually called a male incel
theyre just more pissy about not keepin a long term partner and gettin that storybook ending they assume theyre entitled to
most women ain't whinin for sex cause thirsty men give it up like rain
but most women will get bitter and bitchy about not gettin an ideal relationship they think they deserve
the bigger the ego, the more these women act basically the same as the male incels, cause big ol fat entitlement complex

it really is pretty much the same scenario, they just get called shit like "crazy cat ladies" instead
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DarthAragorn
08/01/19 6:17:39 PM
#59:


those poor poor women that can only get 8/10s that only make $40k/year are absolutely the same as incels!
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ultimate reaver
08/01/19 6:19:29 PM
#60:


Led-Zeppelin posted...
damn she cute af. not sure how she wasnt getting hit on all the time already


A lot of incels are cute. They just have horrible social anxiety or some other issue but blame it on them being "ugly" because they think their jaw isnt perfect or their nose is wrong or some other bizarre self-loathing scapegoat

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NonDairyMiltank
08/01/19 6:34:16 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
those poor poor women that can only get 8/10s that only make $40k/year are absolutely the same as incels!

no, they can't get 8/10s for a satisfying long term commitment, not on average
at best they can get some one night stands with these guys and get tossed like trash (to the average woman, THERES NO POINTS AWARDED FOR THAT)
a lot of guys will still consider that a win, women won't, it actually makes us MORE depressed and pissed off for bein used
those 8/10s know they can do better and have no incentive to settle in their prime with some basic beckie with social problems
and other women are already callin dibs on those 8/10s, that competition alone is gonna push out the average "femcel" cause shes toxic af

instead the best they can usually get is Joey the perpetual pizza guy who barely scrapes minimum wage and looks like he was either raised on meth or Poptarts

that is what the female counterpart gets butthurt about
yeah she can get a man, but she never gets the higher quality men she actually wants for the long term, the trophy bf she thinks shes entitled to
basic example is the fatass whale bitch with no redeemin qualities thinkin shes entitled to a guy with awesome stats just cause she breathes oxygen

like this has been a meme for years lol
these women DO exist
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Darmik
08/01/19 6:45:43 PM
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It takes confidence to go to a bar and flirt with strangers regardless if you're a man or a woman.
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DarthAragorn
08/01/19 6:46:09 PM
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sure it's possible for women to be lonely if they're absolutely hideous or their standards are way too fucking high

but it's not even somewhat the same as fucking incels
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VayneSolo
08/01/19 6:47:14 PM
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BobanMarjanovic posted...
Women can't be incels

First incel (who named herself as such) was a woman.
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ButteryMales
08/01/19 6:48:17 PM
#66:


Conflict posted...
I like how certain people on this board who don't ever try to ask anybody out are practically trying to gatekeep the 'forever alone' group from women. Because there's absolutely no possible way a woman can be lonely

Newsflash; just because guys are willing to throw themselves at women, doesn't automatically mean the women are going to be compatible with them. Try thinking deeper than "oh well they can get asked out and nobody asks me out"

Forever alone is a completely different thing.

Edit: Well different enough.
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bobaban
08/01/19 6:53:00 PM
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NonDairyMiltank posted...
DarthAragorn posted...
those poor poor women that can only get 8/10s that only make $40k/year are absolutely the same as incels!

no, they can't get 8/10s for a satisfying long term commitment, not on average
at best they can get some one night stands with these guys and get tossed like trash (to the average woman, THERES NO POINTS AWARDED FOR THAT)
a lot of guys will still consider that a win, women won't, it actually makes us MORE depressed and pissed off for bein used
those 8/10s know they can do better and have no incentive to settle in their prime with some basic beckie with social problems
and other women are already callin dibs on those 8/10s, that competition alone is gonna push out the average "femcel" cause shes toxic af

instead the best they can usually get is Joey the perpetual pizza guy who barely scrapes minimum wage and looks like he was either raised on meth or Poptarts

that is what the female counterpart gets butthurt about
yeah she can get a man, but she never gets the higher quality men she actually wants for the long term, the trophy bf she thinks shes entitled to
basic example is the fatass whale bitch with no redeemin qualities thinkin shes entitled to a guy with awesome stats just cause she breathes oxygen

like this has been a meme for years lol
these women DO exist


Well its not unreasonable. If all/most women go for chad, naturally chad will only LTR with primo Becky and Stacy, cause there is only so much of chad available. They may settle for betabuxx or normie though.

I think main Difference between male incel and femcel , is that femcel has a choice when in comes down to it, where male incels have no choice. Which makes the involuntary portion of incel not applicable to femcel. Its been proven men are extremely thirsty (gamer girl bath water) and those incels cant even scrape the bottom level females because those females dont want them.
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Aloner
08/01/19 6:58:18 PM
#68:


Conflict posted...
I like how certain people on this board who don't ever try to ask anybody out are practically trying to gatekeep the 'forever alone' group from women.

Do the femcels ask people out?

Because as soon as the woman the topic talks about asked someone out, she found a relationship. I doubt a male incel would find such success.
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NonDairyMiltank
08/01/19 6:58:56 PM
#69:


DarthAragorn posted...
sure it's possible for women to be lonely if they're absolutely hideous or their standards are way too fucking high

but it's not even somewhat the same as fucking incels

yeah yeah it is

you would know that if you had any idea what its like for women on the other side
most of you guys who don't get it are focusin way too much on the sex aspect and assumin women value the sex as much as you

we don't
i just told you shit like hookin up IS NOT AS REWARDING TO US as it is for you guys
a lot of us DON'T consider that a consolation prize, its a loss cause what we really wanted out of the whole thing walks out after the meaningless sex
we like sex too, but the average woman prioritizes the relationship factor even more, thats our real sex
when we attract a winner, we want to KEEP them in a relationship, thats our trophy, THATS what boosts our self esteem

not the sex...
we're like the fuckin opposite of the average man and so are our priorities

some of you guys would think gettin used for sex and tossed by a 9/10 hot chick is still a win
majority of women do NOT feel the same about gettin used by a 9/10 man like that
its ONLY a real reward when he stays and wants to commit, not leaves...
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Aloner
08/01/19 7:02:42 PM
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NonDairyMiltank posted...
a lot of us DON'T consider that a consolation prize, its a loss cause what we really wanted out of the whole thing walks out after the meaningless sex

If it was a loss, then no woman would ever do it after learning what the red flags are.

They have an option of sex or no sex, and there is a chance the sex leads to more. Male incels start with no options and nothing that can branch off to anything else.
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Darmik
08/01/19 7:06:08 PM
#71:


Everybody has a 'choice' to go out of their comfort zone in an attempt to find someone.

But it's not as simple as having a 'choice' though is it? Actually making the effort to put yourself out there is hard and scary.

But there is absolutely no such thing as someone who can do absolutely nothing to change their life circumstances.
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Webmaster4531
08/01/19 7:06:33 PM
#72:


NonDairyMiltank posted...
most of you guys who don't get it are focusin way too much on the sex aspect

Why do people keep wanting incell to mean more than involuntarily celibate?
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DarthAragorn
08/01/19 7:07:56 PM
#73:


I understand what you're saying about women and relationships, I'm just saying it's bullshit. They can't fuck and keep a perfect man and might have to settle for someone that isn't perfect, boo fucking hoo.

That's not at all the same as people being literally unfuckable and having no options whatsoever.
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Darmik
08/01/19 7:08:46 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
I understand what you're saying about women and relationships, I'm just saying it's bullshit. They can't fuck and keep a perfect man and might have to settle for someone that isn't perfect, boo fucking hoo.

That's not at all the same as people being literally unfuckable and having no options whatsoever.


Everyone has an option.

Doesn't mean everyone wants to take it.
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NonDairyMiltank
08/01/19 7:09:13 PM
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Aloner posted...
NonDairyMiltank posted...
a lot of us DON'T consider that a consolation prize, its a loss cause what we really wanted out of the whole thing walks out after the meaningless sex

If it was a loss, then no woman would ever do it after learning what the red flags are.

lol plenty of us still do it for the emotional thrill and ego boost, but what we really want is for the winner to stick around and want more, not ditch us or put us on speed dial like a pizzeria

realizing we might never find someone like that before menopause and just be another cat lady can cause a similar existential crisis for us like "boohoo ima die a virgin"
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DarthAragorn
08/01/19 7:17:26 PM
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Darmik posted...
DarthAragorn posted...
I understand what you're saying about women and relationships, I'm just saying it's bullshit. They can't fuck and keep a perfect man and might have to settle for someone that isn't perfect, boo fucking hoo.

That's not at all the same as people being literally unfuckable and having no options whatsoever.


Everyone has an option.

Doesn't mean everyone wants to take it.

Sure, a 5-6/10 guy might be able to get with a 400 pound whale 2/10, but he shouldn't have to and she'll spend the whole time wishing she was with someone better and will leave him as soon as the opportunity arises.
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Darmik
08/01/19 7:21:02 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
Darmik posted...
DarthAragorn posted...
I understand what you're saying about women and relationships, I'm just saying it's bullshit. They can't fuck and keep a perfect man and might have to settle for someone that isn't perfect, boo fucking hoo.

That's not at all the same as people being literally unfuckable and having no options whatsoever.


Everyone has an option.

Doesn't mean everyone wants to take it.

Sure, a 5-6/10 guy might be able to get with a 400 pound whale 2/10, but he shouldn't have to and she'll spend the whole time wishing she was with someone better and will leave him as soon as the opportunity arises.


With attitudes like this it sounds like you might be the problem here champ.
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DarthAragorn
08/01/19 7:21:38 PM
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Darmik posted...
DarthAragorn posted...
Darmik posted...
DarthAragorn posted...
I understand what you're saying about women and relationships, I'm just saying it's bullshit. They can't fuck and keep a perfect man and might have to settle for someone that isn't perfect, boo fucking hoo.

That's not at all the same as people being literally unfuckable and having no options whatsoever.


Everyone has an option.

Doesn't mean everyone wants to take it.

Sure, a 5-6/10 guy might be able to get with a 400 pound whale 2/10, but he shouldn't have to and she'll spend the whole time wishing she was with someone better and will leave him as soon as the opportunity arises.


With attitudes like this it sounds like you might be the problem here champ.

Maybe, but it's also the fucking truth
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Darmik
08/01/19 7:28:06 PM
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If you think an average guy can't hold down some obese woman that's pretty sad man.
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DarthAragorn
08/01/19 7:29:56 PM
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Of course it's sad. But there's nothing to be done about it really.
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BlkPopeIseem
08/01/19 7:35:21 PM
#82:


Classic Average having no idea the power she holds. Puts herself out there, BAM. Insta-god.

And how blind were her peers for her not to have awakened to this? Home schooled surely. Or a dungeon.

Aloner posted...
Maybe male incels wouldn't be a problem if people reacted to them the same way, tbh fam.

Yes let a male incel upload a photo to the public. See how that turns out.
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OpenlyGator
08/01/19 7:35:26 PM
#83:


DarthAragorn posted...
Darmik posted...
DarthAragorn posted...
I understand what you're saying about women and relationships, I'm just saying it's bullshit. They can't fuck and keep a perfect man and might have to settle for someone that isn't perfect, boo fucking hoo.

That's not at all the same as people being literally unfuckable and having no options whatsoever.


Everyone has an option.

Doesn't mean everyone wants to take it.

Sure, a 5-6/10 guy might be able to get with a 400 pound whale 2/10, but he shouldn't have to and she'll spend the whole time wishing she was with someone better and will leave him as soon as the opportunity arises.

Dude

DUDE, you realize you just brought up Miltank's point?
Why would the fat woman still leave a 6/10 guy?

Because that's not who she really wants to be with and it will bug the fuck out of her until she finds a guy who meets her real standards.

And what happens if she realizes that no matter how hard she tries, she can't get a better guy? She's a butterfaced Melissa McCarthy clone who smells like Hot Pocket farts and all she can attract is more losers who don't meet her real standards. You think she's just going to sit there happy that she at least has some loser bf that she has to force herself to find attractive while other women got real men?

Uh no, she's going to roll around in bed all night losing sleep over what she doesn't have. Her sisters and girlfriends are all going to show off their supermen while she's got a second rate fuckboy at home they laugh at. She's not going to be happy, not even a little. Shes going to be bitter as fuck over it. Oooo she gets limp sex out of him that doesn't even get her wet. That makes such a difference, that totally registers as a something postitive lmao...
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DarthAragorn
08/01/19 7:36:51 PM
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OpenlyGator posted...
DarthAragorn posted...
Darmik posted...
DarthAragorn posted...
I understand what you're saying about women and relationships, I'm just saying it's bullshit. They can't fuck and keep a perfect man and might have to settle for someone that isn't perfect, boo fucking hoo.

That's not at all the same as people being literally unfuckable and having no options whatsoever.


Everyone has an option.

Doesn't mean everyone wants to take it.

Sure, a 5-6/10 guy might be able to get with a 400 pound whale 2/10, but he shouldn't have to and she'll spend the whole time wishing she was with someone better and will leave him as soon as the opportunity arises.

Dude

DUDE, you realize you just brought up Miltank's point?
Why would the fat woman still leave a 6/10 guy?

Because that's not who she really wants to be with and it will bug the fuck out of her until she finds a guy who meets her real standards.

And what happens if she realizes that no matter how hard she tries, she can't get a better guy? She's a butterfaced Melissa McCarthy clone who smells like Hot Pocket farts and all she can attract is more losers who don't meet her real standards. You think she's just going to sit there happy that she at least has some loser bf that she has to force herself to find attractive while other women got real men?

Uh no, she's going to roll around in bed all night losing sleep over what she doesn't have. Her sisters and girlfriends are all going to show off their supermen while she's got a second rate fuckboy at home they laugh at. She's not going to be happy, not even a little. Shes going to be bitter as fuck over it. Oooo she gets limp sex out of him that doesn't even get her wet. That makes such a difference, that totally registers as a something postitive lmao...

you realize my entire point is that women still have options, their standards are just absurd, while male incels (or just incels because women can't be incels) don't?
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AlephZero
08/01/19 7:37:17 PM
#86:


the average man is unfuckable

the average woman gets blasted by limitless chad dick
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Aloner
08/01/19 7:37:31 PM
#87:


NonDairyMiltank posted...
lol plenty of us still do it for the emotional thrill and ego boost,

Well then there you go, women do still get something.

They can complain about their dilemmas, yes. But it's ridiculous if someone tries to compare that experience to a lifetime of getting nothing whatsoever.

Darmik posted...
If you think an average guy can't hold down some obese woman that's pretty sad man.

Better looking guys bang obese women.

Conflict posted...
You say this, but if your only options were fat, fugly girls with no sense of hygiene, you'd still be whining just as much as you are now.

I'd personally just be quiet about it, even if I was still unsatisfied.
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DarthAragorn
08/01/19 7:37:35 PM
#88:


AlephZero posted...
the average man is unfuckable

the average woman gets blasted by limitless chad dick

it's a meme but it's also a fact at this point
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Darmik
08/01/19 7:38:33 PM
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Isn't it possible that every 2/10 obese woman is different with their own wants, needs and attractions? And that's just one tier of woman! Imagine how much they change on the others!

That logic is just too crazy for some guys though.
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Aloner
08/01/19 7:43:35 PM
#90:


OpenlyGator posted...
Uh no, she's going to roll around in bed all night losing sleep over what she doesn't have. Her sisters and girlfriends are all going to show off their supermen while she's got a second rate fuckboy at home they laugh at. She's not going to be happy, not even a little. Shes going to be bitter as fuck over it.

And her frustration is arguably barely justified.

If someone is 2/10 obese they should be grateful to have any partner at all regardless of looks. Her being unsatisfied with a 5/10 man's looks is ridiculous.

And a 6/10 woman being mad that a 8/10 man only wants her for sex is also not comparable to a 6/10 man being mad that he can't find a 6/10 girlfriend.
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ClockworkHare
08/01/19 7:56:35 PM
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Darmik posted...
DarthAragorn posted...
I understand what you're saying about women and relationships, I'm just saying it's bullshit. They can't fuck and keep a perfect man and might have to settle for someone that isn't perfect, boo fucking hoo.

That's not at all the same as people being literally unfuckable and having no options whatsoever.


Everyone has an option.

Doesn't mean everyone wants to take it.

Seriously this.

Most of the guys who bitch about it being "impossible" to attract a girlfriend are not really trying at all and are often aiming waaaay too high. There's some Quasimodos out there who got legit complaints, but there's a lot of average looking guys with decent attributes who could still manage to get a satisfactory girlfriend if they actually tried. Plenty of the so-called incels are doing the opposite: not really trying. Just doing the bare minimum and raging with entitlement.

And Darth's just pissy about women moving into yet another precious man-space hahahahaha~

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EnvoyOfTheLight
08/01/19 8:00:00 PM
#93:


OpenlyGator posted...
DarthAragorn posted...
Darmik posted...
DarthAragorn posted...
I understand what you're saying about women and relationships, I'm just saying it's bullshit. They can't fuck and keep a perfect man and might have to settle for someone that isn't perfect, boo fucking hoo.

That's not at all the same as people being literally unfuckable and having no options whatsoever.


Everyone has an option.

Doesn't mean everyone wants to take it.

Sure, a 5-6/10 guy might be able to get with a 400 pound whale 2/10, but he shouldn't have to and she'll spend the whole time wishing she was with someone better and will leave him as soon as the opportunity arises.

Dude

DUDE, you realize you just brought up Miltank's point?
Why would the fat woman still leave a 6/10 guy?

Because that's not who she really wants to be with and it will bug the fuck out of her until she finds a guy who meets her real standards.

And what happens if she realizes that no matter how hard she tries, she can't get a better guy? She's a butterfaced Melissa McCarthy clone who smells like Hot Pocket farts and all she can attract is more losers who don't meet her real standards. You think she's just going to sit there happy that she at least has some loser bf that she has to force herself to find attractive while other women got real men?

Uh no, she's going to roll around in bed all night losing sleep over what she doesn't have. Her sisters and girlfriends are all going to show off their supermen while she's got a second rate fuckboy at home they laugh at. She's not going to be happy, not even a little. Shes going to be bitter as fuck over it. Oooo she gets limp sex out of him that doesn't even get her wet. That makes such a difference, that totally registers as a something postitive lmao...


Jesus

where the hell is all this coming from
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Darmik
08/01/19 8:00:25 PM
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Seriously anyone complaining about 'It's literally impossible' should watch a show called The Undateables.

There are people with social disorders and physical disfigurements who still manage to make connections. Sure there are some awkward moments but that's part of life. Well part of anyone who actually goes out and has a social life obviously. You're not going to get anything if you're at home whining on the internet.
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DarthAragorn
08/01/19 8:01:44 PM
#95:


Darmik posted...
Seriously anyone complaining about 'It's literally impossible' should watch a show called The Undateables.

There are people with social disorders and physical disfigurements who still manage to make connections. Sure there are some awkward moments but that's part of life. Well part of anyone who actually goes out and has a social life obviously. You're not going to get anything if you're at home whining on the internet.

ah yes reality TV! it's completely real and not at all fake!
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EnvoyOfTheLight
08/01/19 8:02:39 PM
#96:


DarthAragorn posted...
Darmik posted...
Seriously anyone complaining about 'It's literally impossible' should watch a show called The Undateables.

There are people with social disorders and physical disfigurements who still manage to make connections. Sure there are some awkward moments but that's part of life. Well part of anyone who actually goes out and has a social life obviously. You're not going to get anything if you're at home whining on the internet.

ah yes reality TV! it's completely real and not at all fake!


Does that mean it's completely fake and not at all real?
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Darmik
08/01/19 8:02:59 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
Darmik posted...
Seriously anyone complaining about 'It's literally impossible' should watch a show called The Undateables.

There are people with social disorders and physical disfigurements who still manage to make connections. Sure there are some awkward moments but that's part of life. Well part of anyone who actually goes out and has a social life obviously. You're not going to get anything if you're at home whining on the internet.

ah yes reality TV! it's completely real and not at all fake!


It's a tier above the internet.

Way down below actually talking to real life women though. Which I'm assuming you never do.
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DarthAragorn
08/01/19 8:03:00 PM
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EnvoyOfTheLight posted...
DarthAragorn posted...
Darmik posted...
Seriously anyone complaining about 'It's literally impossible' should watch a show called The Undateables.

There are people with social disorders and physical disfigurements who still manage to make connections. Sure there are some awkward moments but that's part of life. Well part of anyone who actually goes out and has a social life obviously. You're not going to get anything if you're at home whining on the internet.

ah yes reality TV! it's completely real and not at all fake!


Does that mean it's completely fake and not at all real?

basically yes
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DarthAragorn
08/01/19 8:03:57 PM
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Darmik posted...
DarthAragorn posted...
Darmik posted...
Seriously anyone complaining about 'It's literally impossible' should watch a show called The Undateables.

There are people with social disorders and physical disfigurements who still manage to make connections. Sure there are some awkward moments but that's part of life. Well part of anyone who actually goes out and has a social life obviously. You're not going to get anything if you're at home whining on the internet.

ah yes reality TV! it's completely real and not at all fake!


It's a tier above the internet.

Way down below actually talking to real life women though. Which I'm assuming you never do.

I really don't anymore, because why the fuck would I? It's pointless
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EnvoyOfTheLight
08/01/19 8:04:01 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
EnvoyOfTheLight posted...
DarthAragorn posted...
Darmik posted...
Seriously anyone complaining about 'It's literally impossible' should watch a show called The Undateables.

There are people with social disorders and physical disfigurements who still manage to make connections. Sure there are some awkward moments but that's part of life. Well part of anyone who actually goes out and has a social life obviously. You're not going to get anything if you're at home whining on the internet.

ah yes reality TV! it's completely real and not at all fake!


Does that mean it's completely fake and not at all real?

basically yes


That doesn't make much sense either.
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