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coh
07/27/19 11:09:02 PM
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Says something that their best one, the switch pro controller is a copy of the Xbox
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MrK3V
07/27/19 11:09:28 PM
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You tried
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Duncanwii
07/27/19 11:09:42 PM
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The NES and N64 Controllers were revolutionary for their times though.
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konokonohamaru
07/27/19 11:10:20 PM
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They have amazing battery life
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PowerOats
07/27/19 11:14:35 PM
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The only good Nintendo Controllers are the GameCube and SNES ones
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dummy420
07/27/19 11:23:24 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
The NES and N64 Controllers were revolutionary for their times though.

The only thing the N64 controller brought to the table was the joystick. Besides that it was the worst main console controller ive ever had outside maybe the duke.
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0xDEFECADE
07/27/19 11:24:15 PM
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MrK3V posted...
You tried

I'm not so sure about that
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Duncanwii
07/27/19 11:24:37 PM
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dummy420 posted...
Duncanwii posted...
The NES and N64 Controllers were revolutionary for their times though.

The only thing the N64 controller brought to the table was the joystick. Besides that it was the worst main console controller ive ever had outside maybe the duke.

Yes, and the Joystick was revolutionary for its time. Keep up.
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inTaCtfuL
07/27/19 11:25:44 PM
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if you "copy" something and make it better then it's better. lol

saying that the switch pro controller is a copy of the Xbox controller is just weird to me, like you can make the argument that all these controllers are just a copy of the ps1 dualshock controller, or even a copy of the snes or even nes controllers. lol
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dummy420
07/27/19 11:26:28 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
dummy420 posted...
Duncanwii posted...
The NES and N64 Controllers were revolutionary for their times though.

The only thing the N64 controller brought to the table was the joystick. Besides that it was the worst main console controller ive ever had outside maybe the duke.

Yes, and the Joystick was revolutionary for its time. Keep up.

And it was quickly optimized by Sony.
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Duncanwii
07/27/19 11:27:35 PM
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dummy420 posted...
Duncanwii posted...
dummy420 posted...
Duncanwii posted...
The NES and N64 Controllers were revolutionary for their times though.

The only thing the N64 controller brought to the table was the joystick. Besides that it was the worst main console controller ive ever had outside maybe the duke.

Yes, and the Joystick was revolutionary for its time. Keep up.

And it was quickly optimized by Sony.

Did Sony invent the Joystick? No? Then Nintendo revolutionized the industry.
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Questionmarktarius
07/27/19 11:28:39 PM
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Allow me to retort:

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dummy420
07/27/19 11:29:34 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
dummy420 posted...
Duncanwii posted...
dummy420 posted...
Duncanwii posted...
The NES and N64 Controllers were revolutionary for their times though.

The only thing the N64 controller brought to the table was the joystick. Besides that it was the worst main console controller ive ever had outside maybe the duke.

Yes, and the Joystick was revolutionary for its time. Keep up.

And it was quickly optimized by Sony.

Did Sony invent the Joystick? No? Then Nintendo revolutionized the industry.

No Sony pick the diamond out of the turd that is the N64 controller and then displayed it as it should have been.
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r25
07/27/19 11:30:55 PM
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Wii U Pro Controller
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Duncanwii
07/27/19 11:30:56 PM
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dummy420 posted...
Duncanwii posted...
dummy420 posted...
Duncanwii posted...
dummy420 posted...
Duncanwii posted...
The NES and N64 Controllers were revolutionary for their times though.

The only thing the N64 controller brought to the table was the joystick. Besides that it was the worst main console controller ive ever had outside maybe the duke.

Yes, and the Joystick was revolutionary for its time. Keep up.

And it was quickly optimized by Sony.

Did Sony invent the Joystick? No? Then Nintendo revolutionized the industry.

No Sony pick the diamond out of the turd that is the N64 controller and then displayed it as it should have been.

That fails to negate the fact Nintendo did it first. You lose, get over it.
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The-Apostle
07/27/19 11:31:52 PM
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I agree. Nintendo hasn't had a good controller design since the Gamecube (and even then it sucked).

Nintendo has the worst controller ever though (Wii controllers).
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dummy420
07/27/19 11:31:56 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
dummy420 posted...
Duncanwii posted...
dummy420 posted...
Duncanwii posted...
dummy420 posted...
Duncanwii posted...
The NES and N64 Controllers were revolutionary for their times though.

The only thing the N64 controller brought to the table was the joystick. Besides that it was the worst main console controller ive ever had outside maybe the duke.

Yes, and the Joystick was revolutionary for its time. Keep up.

And it was quickly optimized by Sony.

Did Sony invent the Joystick? No? Then Nintendo revolutionized the industry.

No Sony pick the diamond out of the turd that is the N64 controller and then displayed it as it should have been.

That fails to negate the fact Nintendo did it first. You lose, get over it.

Never said they didnt bring it to the table. I said that is the only thing they brought with the N64. It was a trash controller that got one thing right.
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Sad_Face
07/27/19 11:36:16 PM
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dummy420 posted...
Never said they didnt bring it to the table. I said that is the only thing they brought with the N64. It was a trash controller that got one thing right.

Getting that "one thing right" was monumental and paved the way for the controllers that we use today.
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Questionmarktarius
07/27/19 11:52:37 PM
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M_Live posted...
Duncanwii posted...
The NES and N64 Controllers were revolutionary for their times though.

Revolutionary or even influential =/= good

SNES controller made a standard.
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FL81
07/28/19 12:00:48 AM
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Honestly their only really "bad" controller was the N64

Wiimote sucked too, but you could still use the GameCube controller for several games
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Questionmarktarius
07/28/19 12:02:01 AM
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FL81 posted...
Wiimote sucked too

Wiimote was so fucking amazing that it would fly entirety through flat-panel TVs.
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Zen-move
07/28/19 12:03:30 AM
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FL81 posted...
Honestly their only really "bad" controller was the N64

Wiimote sucked too, but you could still use the GameCube controller for several games


People shit on the n64 controller but its the reason home consoles have analog sticks
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viewmaster_pi
07/28/19 12:03:52 AM
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nintendo sucks with everything, all they do is try gimmicks over the years.

shitty, weak hardware, shitty controllers, shitty motion gimmicks, shitty online, they fell FAR behind the rest of the modern gaming world
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masticatingman
07/28/19 12:04:27 AM
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r25 posted...
Wii U Pro Controller


This. You cant say that you didnt use it so it doesnt count. Its fantastic.
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Duncanwii
07/28/19 12:06:18 AM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
nintendo sucks with everything, all they do is try gimmicks over the years.

shitty, weak hardware, shitty controllers, shitty motion gimmicks, shitty online, they fell FAR behind the rest of the modern gaming world

Literally invented video games as we know them but ok they're behind in the industry.
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viewmaster_pi
07/28/19 12:07:55 AM
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Duncanwii posted...
Literally invented video games as we know them but ok they're behind in the industry.

the things they did were great in the past

now they pander to children, refuse to evolve, refuse to innovate, they've stagnated
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Questionmarktarius
07/28/19 12:08:45 AM
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Duncanwii posted...
Literally invented video games as we know them

k, what?

https://patents.google.com/patent/US2455992A/en
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Duncanwii
07/28/19 12:09:28 AM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
Duncanwii posted...
Literally invented video games as we know them but ok they're behind in the industry.

the things they did were great in the past

now they pander to children, refuse to evolve, refuse to innovate, they've stagnated

Is this the same company that earned Game of the Year with Breath of the Wild with virtually everyone? Clearly you don't know what you're talking about.
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Smashingpmkns
07/28/19 12:10:02 AM
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They really did fuck up this gen with all of the faults in their controllers. But so did MS and Sony. All the controllers this gen have shit quality control and that should not be acceptable, especially MS that spent hundreds of millions of dollars designing theirs.
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Questionmarktarius
07/28/19 12:10:21 AM
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Duncanwii posted...
viewmaster_pi posted...
Duncanwii posted...
Literally invented video games as we know them but ok they're behind in the industry.

the things they did were great in the past

now they pander to children, refuse to evolve, refuse to innovate, they've stagnated

Is this the same company that earned Game of the Year with Breath of the Wild with virtually everyone? Clearly you don't know what you're talking about.

"Pandering to children" is functionally identical to "not pandering specifically to me"
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viewmaster_pi
07/28/19 12:13:18 AM
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Duncanwii posted...
Is this the same company that earned Game of the Year with Breath of the Wild with virtually everyone? Clearly you don't know what you're talking about.

breath of the wild was a good single player game, which is the only reason to own a switch. i'm gonna be picking up DQ11, so that's cool

and that's all there is to say about it. the online's terrible, multiplayer games are terrible because shitty spaghetti netcode, no party features, no voice chat, no teaming up with friends for matchmaking, and now there isn't even virtual console, lol

i know you're just gonna blindly defend them though. i'm sure you've never played on another platform, so you don't know what you're missing
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viewmaster_pi
07/28/19 12:14:36 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
"Pandering to children" is functionally identical to "not pandering specifically to me"

pandering to children is limiting online and hardware features, among other things. nintendo thinks all of their customers are kids or soccer moms, so everything's insultingly barebones and dumbed down
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Duncanwii
07/28/19 12:15:13 AM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
Duncanwii posted...
Is this the same company that earned Game of the Year with Breath of the Wild with virtually everyone? Clearly you don't know what you're talking about.

breath of the wild was a good single player game, which is the only reason to own a switch. i'm gonna be picking up DQ11, so that's cool

and that's all there is to say about it. the online's terrible, multiplayer games are terrible because shitty spaghetti netcode, no party features, no voice chat, no teaming up with friends for matchmaking, and now there isn't even virtual console, lol

i know you're just gonna blindly defend them though. i'm sure you've never played on another platform, so you don't know what you're missing

I own (owned for the Microsoft consoles) a 360, Xbox One, PS2, PS3, and a PS4 so don't try that crap with me. I also briefly owned a Genesis so there's that too.
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Questionmarktarius
07/28/19 12:15:25 AM
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"Fratcore" is a gigantic hole in Nintendo's marketing strategy, yes.
There's Smash, and, uh, um, i dunno?
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viewmaster_pi
07/28/19 12:17:44 AM
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Duncanwii posted...
I own (owned for the Microsoft consoles) a 360, Xbox One, PS2, PS3, and a PS4 so don't try that crap with me. I also briefly owned a Genesis so there's that too.

then don't try the nintendo bias crap with me. my experience on Xbone and Switch has been night and day. I can talk with my friends in a party no matter what we're doing or playing, matchmake together in games so we can be on the same team, etc.

Switch has literally the same features as the original DS
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viewmaster_pi
07/28/19 12:25:06 AM
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oh, don't forget community and activity feeds on Xbox. You can share clips, message people, join clubs, group chat, etc.

You can't even shoot your bud a message on switch, lol. Nintendo actively wants to keep people apart to protect children, but instead of having good features with parental controls, they strip it to be as barebones as possible, then charge for it.

I liked the Wii U, I like the Switch, but for real, as an adult consumer, fuck Nintendo
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Questionmarktarius
07/28/19 12:27:52 AM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
as an adult consumer, fuck Nintendo

As an adult consumer, you almost certainly have a cellphone, and know your bud's number.

Nintendo has been half-assing it since 1889, but they've never really needed to full-ass it.
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Deadpool_18
07/28/19 12:28:40 AM
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I thought the GameCube controller was fantastic.
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viewmaster_pi
07/28/19 12:29:45 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
As an adult consumer, you almost certainly have a cellphone, and know your bud's number.

"lol phone" is not a solution

there's a problem when you use one console to talk on because the other has no social features to speak of, do not try to defend Nintendo's shortcomings, certainly not with "they don't need to do better"
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Questionmarktarius
07/28/19 12:30:20 AM
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Deadpool_18 posted...
I thought the GameCube controller was fantastic.

It's just too bad Capcom screwed up the Megaman Anniversary Collection specifically for the Gamecube controller.
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CADE FOSTER
07/28/19 12:33:41 AM
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