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TheRock1525
07/31/19 11:04:09 PM
#252:


I can't even lie.

My favorite character in the BE's so far might be Ferdinand.
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tcaz2
07/31/19 11:05:31 PM
#253:


I like Ferdinand a lot more than I thought I would.

Linhardt too.

Caspar I keep going back and forth on.

I like all the girls though.

Huberts the only one I'm kinda meh on so far
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LapisLazuli
07/31/19 11:51:00 PM
#254:


Holy shit everyone looks so cool.

Holy shit Ferdinand.
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Peridiam
08/01/19 12:01:53 AM
#255:


I've been big on Edelgard and Ferdinand.
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LapisLazuli
08/01/19 12:08:24 AM
#256:


The ships coming out in full force in these post skip convos.
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TheRock1525
08/01/19 2:35:19 AM
#257:


God the battle music for this game is so good.
Fodlan Winds
Tempest of Seasons
Tearing Through Heaven

All amazing.
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LapisLazuli
08/01/19 3:18:56 AM
#258:


OK wow.

You really gonna make it play the sad music every time I kill a student like one of my guys died?
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Grimlyn
08/01/19 12:40:25 PM
#259:


when you're tasked with rescuing villagers but then a villager flees right into the boss's attack range
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tcaz2
08/01/19 4:11:20 PM
#260:


Grimlyn posted...
when you're tasked with rescuing villagers but then a villager flees right into the boss's attack range

The level early on in the fog where you get a reward if the soldiers don't die the soldiers basically went "LEEEEROOOOY JEEEENKIIINS" on me

I was like "I don't even care what the reward I'm going to miss is, you guys are too dumb to use divine pulse for"
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Panthera
08/01/19 8:29:35 PM
#261:


If there's one thing that never changes in Fire Emblem, it's that the NPC AI always manages to screw you over
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TheRock1525
08/01/19 8:45:49 PM
#262:


I'll be honest, I'm really, really considering restarting under the Golden Deer knowing I can brute-force people to join my class and have Claude in my party, too.
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StealThisSheen
08/01/19 8:47:08 PM
#263:


So somebody explain Classes to me since they work differently now

When do I want to change classes
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Panthera
08/01/19 8:51:20 PM
#264:


StealThisSheen posted...
So somebody explain Classes to me since they work differently now

When do I want to change classes


Generally as soon as possible. The only benefits to staying in a lower tier class is the class mastery skill if you want it, but those take a while to get and are mostly kind of lame (a few are absolutely awesome though, like the Mage and Brigand ones). And possibly the growth rates, depending on the classes involved. The exception is with the final tier of classes, which aren't direct upgrades for the most part - some are, but a lot follow the pattern of being slightly weaker statistically than the advanced classes, but on a horse to make up for it.

You probably also want to look at class unlock requirements early on to start training them, because some of them can take quite a while to meet, especially for characters that don't have strengths in all the necessary areas.
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StealThisSheen
08/01/19 9:07:23 PM
#265:


Okay, cool, thanks!

Also, is there any place you can see your class exp other than in that Certification menu?
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Panthera
08/01/19 9:09:12 PM
#266:


As far as I know, it's only the certification menu and the screen where you see experience you gained after fighting/healing/etc. If there's another place I sure wish I could find it!
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ninkendo
08/01/19 9:21:46 PM
#267:


Quick Look was great

Dan already has a waifu picked out for when she's of age

Abby was disgusted and confused

Vinny just laughed
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Mac Arrowny
08/01/19 9:31:48 PM
#268:


Technically we don't know what age the various characters are. Some of the students could already be adults.
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NBIceman
08/01/19 9:32:26 PM
#269:


Nah, we know what age they are. Their info cards have their age plastered right on them.
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Mac Arrowny
08/01/19 9:37:46 PM
#270:


...Somehow I missed that. Whoops!
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Shadow Dino
08/01/19 9:41:16 PM
#271:


For example: Petra, the girl Dan is a fan of, is 16.
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NBIceman
08/01/19 9:51:41 PM
#272:


Just be a man of culture to begin with and go after Shamir.
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mnkboy907
08/01/19 9:57:38 PM
#273:


TheRock1525 posted...
I'll be honest, I'm really, really considering restarting under the Golden Deer knowing I can brute-force people to join my class and have Claude in my party, too.

How far are you in your current route? NG+ is a thing and you can spend your renown to buy back the supports you've already gained, making it easier to recruit a bunch of people in your next run. And you can buy back your professor level, allowing you more chances to do stuff from the beginning, which also makes it easier to recruit students (like doing more tea times or getting more lessons from other teachers to boost your own stats).
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TheRock1525
08/01/19 9:58:44 PM
#274:


I'm chapter 10 so I think I'm just gonna push forward since I'm pretty sure I'm close to halfway.

BTW, it's funny how with the new outfit from the DLC that Byleth is looking like my Corrin.
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Mac Arrowny
08/01/19 11:34:54 PM
#275:


What can I do with items like tactics primer and letter from Edelgard?
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Peace___Frog
08/01/19 11:36:47 PM
#276:


NBIceman posted...
Just be a man of culture to begin with and go after Shamir.

Thank you
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DrifIoon
08/02/19 12:44:13 AM
#277:


Well just beat the game, happy to report that there ARE marriage pairings in your support team.

I think the first potential partners you A support together take priority.

Married Leonie, but in her marriage picture she lost her nose : (

Pretty good game with some big ignorable flaws. The part that made me the most sad was that lethality doesn't have any sort of special animation or artistic flair : (
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LapisLazuli
08/02/19 12:45:43 AM
#278:


Maaaaan how is Hubert this good??

Especially his post time supports.
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TheRock1525
08/02/19 1:01:42 AM
#279:


"You missed an opportunity to deepen this bond" with Rhea.

Am I screwed?
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tcaz2
08/02/19 1:30:12 AM
#280:


TheRock1525 posted...
"You missed an opportunity to deepen this bond" with Rhea.

Am I screwed?

If you wanted to support with Rhea yes

If you miss doing her supports before the time limit on them you cannot get them.
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TheRock1525
08/02/19 1:47:02 AM
#281:


Thank God I have an old save. I also missed on a key discussion with Edelgard.
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TheRock1525
08/02/19 4:54:04 AM
#282:


So yeah, all the events and the battle leading up to the time skip... did not feel fun.
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tcaz2
08/02/19 6:44:49 AM
#283:


Yeah I'm actually really not a fan of the direction the story goes. Especially since there is no golden ending.

Its well written but... doesn't really feel good to play through. Hurts my enjoyment of the game a lot. Which is a shame because otherwise its probably the best Fire Emblem.
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Shadow Dino
08/02/19 4:56:27 PM
#284:


Part 2 Spoilers

I can see why some would want to recruit as many students as possible, but I'm starting to come around on the notion of just recruiting a few from each house and having to take out the rest. Heightens the emotional impact.
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Panthera
08/02/19 5:43:58 PM
#285:


Having a "everyone is happy yay" route would suck. It's one of the many flaws of Fates, that two of the three routes are just obviously stupid because there's an objectively superior (in terms of happy endings, not actual game quality) option available that you'd have to be uninformed to not pick. There's absolutely no point to setting up a game about the conflict between these factions if you're just going to have the option to ignore the whole premise, rendering every other path pointless.
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tcaz2
08/02/19 5:52:44 PM
#286:


That doesn't necessarily have to be the case. There are plenty of stories out there that do the 'true route' thing very well. Revelations problem (as was Fates in general, really) was the writing quality, not the premise.

Someone on Reddit had a great suggestion, for instance.

You could require that you do all of, or at least one of the routes beforehand, and then make the 'true route' a sequel. Have a post-game Byleth harness the full power of Sothis's Divine Pulse ability to go back to the beginning of everything and work to set everything straight.

Done with the same quality of writing, this (or anything) could be a great story in its own right.

And furthermore, just because something is better written doesn't necessarily correlate to 'more enjoyable'. Fire Emblems greatest strength in writing (even in Awakening and Fates, which both have fairly subpar writing to different extents overall) is the characters and getting attached to them.

In a lot of ways, Fire Emblems 'permadeath' mechanic that a lot of people like the series for is exactly the OPPOSITE of what 3 Houses plot is trying to achieve, and it rubs a lot of people the wrong way (including me). Because permadeath isn't encouraging you to get the characters killed, its encouraging you to NOT get them killed. You want to save everyone.

But you can't do that here.

And its not something I particularly enjoy.
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Mac Arrowny
08/02/19 5:55:49 PM
#287:


Eh, the premise of Revelations is bad too, not just the writing quality.
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Xiahou Shake
08/02/19 6:18:29 PM
#288:


I haven't made it to the time skip yet but the early game is setting the table perfectly for an actually serious look at the horror of war, people having to kill their former friends and family and if this game actually has the balls to pull that off with no punches pulled then it would easily be my favorite thing this series has ever done with its story.

If I'm right about that and that's what is making people uncomfortable, I think I'd argue that's the point and it would be missing that point to ask for something happier. (Disregard me completely if I'm way off base here.)
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mnkboy907
08/02/19 6:25:26 PM
#289:


Well you could always aim to recruit absolutely everyone on a NG+ run and then at that point you only have to kill a maximum of three or four students!

Note that I'm also still pre-skip so I don't know how the story handles killing or not killing the opposing houses.
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mnkboy907
08/02/19 6:38:12 PM
#290:


I can't say I was expecting Linhardt's supports with Marianne and Lysithea to be about revealing their secrets. It's just kinda weird someone from outside their house is so vital to learning more about their backstories. Though I guess I haven't seen their paralogues yet, so maybe it's just redundant information.
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Mac Arrowny
08/02/19 6:38:48 PM
#291:


Oh hey classic mnkboy posting unmarked spoilers.

Make a new fucking topic if you want to do that.
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Xiahou Shake
08/02/19 6:40:08 PM
#292:


Thank goodness I jumped to Mac's post and missed whatever was above. Get that stuff out of here.
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Panthera
08/02/19 6:40:16 PM
#293:


tcaz2 posted...

In a lot of ways, Fire Emblems 'permadeath' mechanic that a lot of people like the series for is exactly the OPPOSITE of what 3 Houses plot is trying to achieve, and it rubs a lot of people the wrong way (including me). Because permadeath isn't encouraging you to get the characters killed, its encouraging you to NOT get them killed. You want to save everyone.

But you can't do that here.

And its not something I particularly enjoy.


To me, it undermines the entire idea of the characters being worth caring about if you don't have to face the possibility of needing to kill them for being on the other side of the conflict. You already have the ability to recruit people pretty freely to minimize casualties anyway, taking it any further just kind of hurts the idea that there's an actual conflict going on, and by extension, the idea that these characters are real enough to actually have things they're willing to fight for.
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mnkboy907
08/02/19 6:47:56 PM
#294:


Uh, if it was my post about killing students, I flat out said I don't even know anything about if or how that happens. For all I know, everyone lives happily ever after.

If it's the post about the supports, I don't see how that's really spoilers. I didn't mention any specifics. If anything it's advice that people should try to see those supports, since I bet a lot of people won't due to them being in different houses.
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mnkboy907
08/02/19 7:20:52 PM
#295:


Okay in hindsight I see how that first post sounds like spoilers, and that if someone thought they were just spoiled then they wouldn't have kept reading to see that I was just speculating. Yeah, that's a poorly structured post, and I apologize that it caught you off guard.
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SantaRPidgey
08/03/19 1:36:43 AM
#296:


Ashe kills his adoptive father

MVP: Ashe!

Ashe's motivation is maxed out!

I seriously couldn't stop laughing
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Shadow Dino
08/03/19 2:16:29 AM
#297:


Got my Lance to Rank C, recruited Ashe and Leonie to the team.

Part 2 Spoilers

Gonna be interesting how this is handled in the post-time skip chapters. I keep seeing conflicting reports that you need to fight any characters you recruited pre-skip before they join you again, yet I also see some people instantly get their recruited characters back.
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Shadow Dino
08/03/19 5:32:46 PM
#298:


And now on Chapter 11

Destiny Awaits
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Shadow Dino
08/03/19 7:54:40 PM
#299:


Chapter 11 Black Eagles Spoilers (Major, you have been warned)

lol bum rushed the middle then warped Byleth up to Edelgard to one-shot her with a crit.

G G E Z


I should've listened to tcaz, Normal mode is a roflstomp. I'll definitely put it on Hard for my NG+ Deer run.
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TheRock1525
08/03/19 9:18:21 PM
#300:


Shadow Dino posted...
Chapter 11 Black Eagles Spoilers (Major, you have been warned)

lol bum rushed the middle then warped Byleth up to Edelgard to one-shot her with a crit.

G G E Z


I should've listened to tcaz, Normal mode is a roflstomp. I'll definitely put it on Hard for my NG+ Deer run.


Sounds like we're doing the exact same run.
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WazzupGenius00
08/04/19 1:36:04 AM
#301:


I feel like I already have more fish and fruit than I'll ever use and I'm only like eight battles into the game. Is there some additional use for these besides using one or two when you do mealtime stuff?
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