Current Events > Reddit waiter serves pregnant woman non alcoholic drinks, gets reprimanded.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/ch3vqi/aita_for_serving_a_pregnant_woman_a_nonalcoholic/

Was he in the right? Was it ok for him to give her non alcoholic cocktails even though the whole table ordered alcohol?
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OBGYN here. A single night of 3-4 cocktails, especially outside of the embryogenic period, has not been proven to cause fetal alcohol syndrome, although there is no definitive data about exactly how much alcohol intake is associated with its development.

The US regulatory/standards of care organization is the American college of obstetrics and gynecology, and their stance is that since no data proves benefit, and there is a clear association with heavy, routine consumption, no alcohol should be recommended in pregnancy.

However, our friends in the UK have the royal college of obstetrics and gynecology, and they have a study or two floating around showing minimal maternal benefit with no proven fetal harm for 1-2 drinks per day.
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MrPeppers posted...

OBGYN here. A single night of 3-4 cocktails, especially outside of the embryogenic period, has not been proven to cause fetal alcohol syndrome, although there is no definitive data about exactly how much alcohol intake is associated with its development.

The US regulatory/standards of care organization is the American college of obstetrics and gynecology, and their stance is that since no data proves benefit, and there is a clear association with heavy, routine consumption, no alcohol should be recommended in pregnancy.

However, our friends in the UK have the royal college of obstetrics and gynecology, and they have a study or two floating around showing minimal maternal benefit with no proven fetal harm for 1-2 drinks per day.

You also have to take into consideration the 99.99% probability this actually never happened.
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Depending on the country, it could be illegal because discrimination. But in others, it might not be illegal but could lose the licenses of themselves and the establishment.
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MrPeppers posted...


Does this maybe fall under the category of "maybe don't bother risking it"
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Her heart was in the right place but I guess I'm gonna go to the default "her body, her choice" meme to excuse women from doing fucked up shit to their unborn children.
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Stop posting these dumb amitheasshole reposts.

Is tc the same guy who tried to become the de facto boogie posting guy
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I stood my ground and told her that I'm not going to be responsible for FAS

Ahahaha at this though
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However, very much the asshole for duping the customer.

Whatever her thoughts on serving a pregnant woman alcohol, changing her order without telling her and hoping to get away with it was the wrong way to handle it.
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Waitress should have asked the woman if she was pregnant, once confirmed she could refuse to serve her alcohol and not get into trouble.

If the person was pregnant and wanted to drink alcohol they are a monster.
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pinky0926 posted...

MrPeppers posted...

Does this maybe fall under the category of "maybe don't bother risking it"

As far as being a pregnant woman concerned for fetal outcome? Or are you talking about the waiter shouldn't bother risking sticking his nose into someone else's business?
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If she had some ethical concern about serving the woman alcohol then she should have brought it up with her manager. She tried to dupe the customer and got caught.

And while I certainly understand and agree with her position, ultimately it isn't up to some random waiter to decide what is best for this woman's unborn child.
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I probably would have just had someone else serve them.
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I swear, every day I find new careers in which you can never have convictions.
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I don't blame the waiter for trying to do the right thing, but they could have handled it better instead of not saying anything.

MrPeppers posted...

OBGYN here. A single night of 3-4 cocktails, especially outside of the embryogenic period, has not been proven to cause fetal alcohol syndrome, although there is no definitive data about exactly how much alcohol intake is associated with its development.

The US regulatory/standards of care organization is the American college of obstetrics and gynecology, and their stance is that since no data proves benefit, and there is a clear association with heavy, routine consumption, no alcohol should be recommended in pregnancy.

However, our friends in the UK have the royal college of obstetrics and gynecology, and they have a study or two floating around showing minimal maternal benefit with no proven fetal harm for 1-2 drinks per day.

interesting
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DevsBro posted...

I swear, every day I find new careers in which you can never have convictions.

If you have convictions it's usually good to express them instead of trying to deceive people
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MrPeppers posted...

OBGYN here. A single night of 3-4 cocktails, especially outside of the embryogenic period, has not been proven to cause fetal alcohol syndrome, although there is no definitive data about exactly how much alcohol intake is associated with its development.

The US regulatory/standards of care organization is the American college of obstetrics and gynecology, and their stance is that since no data proves benefit, and there is a clear association with heavy, routine consumption, no alcohol should be recommended in pregnancy.

However, our friends in the UK have the royal college of obstetrics and gynecology, and they have a study or two floating around showing minimal maternal benefit with no proven fetal harm for 1-2 drinks per day.

Brian Peppers has spoken
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She should have just outright refused to sell it, not trick her.
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I would have double checked(confirming pregnant as well as the alcoholic drink) with her then if that's what she wants then that's what she gets.

You control your own destiny, I am not in charge of it, and I will not be your mom about it.
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I wouldn't serve a pregnant lady alcohol, like I wouldn't soak a seed I was planning to grow in alcohol.
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I hope peope actually read, the issue wasn't him not wanting to do so, and that's alright, the problem is him just basically changing the order without notice.
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Eh. People make mistakes, the OP didnt handle it in the best way possible but hindsight is 20/20. Heart was in the right place and ultimately was trying to do the right thing.

Fuck this world where its more wrong to deceive someone or simply change a persons order than it is to serve alcohol to a pregnant woman.
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The dude just assumed from eavesdropping.
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im always skeptical on these reddit stories
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I would also say OP is the asshole, if he had a problem with an allegedly pregnant woman ordering drinks he should have gone to his manager rather than altering her orders without her consent.
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While it is totally reasonable for her not to want to serve a pregnant woman alcohol (I wouldn't either), you cannot change someone's order to something they didn't ask for. It violates the fundamental trust restaurants need to be a functioning business.

If she had concerns then she could talk to management and go from there.
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Unfortunately it's illegal to refuse to serve pregnant women alcohol
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Didn't know that it's not fatal to the baby if you just have a single night of drinking in a while. Still, if my wife is pregnant, I would just flat out not let her drink lul
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