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hockeybub89
07/21/19 4:13:44 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
He didnt hate her cuz she was trans, he hated her cuz she was a trans woman he flirted with is some real dumb mental gymnastics

It pairs well with "It's not bigotry if you don't publicly announce your intention to murder everyone of a demographic due to your hatred of what they are"
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Big_Gold
07/21/19 4:30:31 PM
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Why did he push her?

Because he found out she was trans.

Because she was trans.

Obviously a hate crime.

https://www.ajc.com/news/national/killer-jenny-jones-gay-crush-murder-released-from-prison/CMKsybhg5nhHzggybvHdNO/

^Why is this guy out already? Why isn't he in prison for life?
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sktgamer_13dude
07/21/19 4:33:55 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
kingdrake2 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
I have duran tagged as "loliboy" and now he defends this shit. What the actual fuck


i just hope he doesn't support this shit in real life. it be even worse.

in real life? what does that mean? is this story made up or something?

He means this better just be part of your gimmick because believing the shit you post irl is terrible

i don't have a gimmick

Your gimmick is dying on dumb hills.
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PleaseClap
07/21/19 4:37:06 PM
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Notice how Duran isnt actually addressing the topic anymore
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gunplagirl
07/21/19 4:40:00 PM
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PleaseClap posted...
Notice how Duran isnt actually addressing the topic anymore

He's trying his best to avoid being warned by explicitly stating support, as he has in the past.
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TeaMilk
07/21/19 4:44:58 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
i've said all i want to say, at this point addressing anything else would just be repeating myself, and i don't have time for that
seems like you have a lot of time considering the vast amount of shitty posts in here
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gunplagirl
07/21/19 4:45:27 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
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I'm gonna take a page out of your book and simply deflect away from the question. :3
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DarkRoast
07/21/19 4:46:38 PM
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There are people on this website who legitimately believe I shouldn't be legally allowed to marry my fiancee
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Machete
07/21/19 4:47:57 PM
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Duran is in the wrong but the dogpiling is excessive and emotionally charged and he won't learn anything from it.

A simple correction would be this...

"you don't have to hate transgenders in order to not want to date or flirt with one."

you DO have to hate transgenders in order to push one when you find out they are trans after you flirted. There are no two ways to that.

That's all anyone needed to say to him imo. If he would disagree with me on this point though, well then dogpile away.
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kingdrake2
07/21/19 4:48:21 PM
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we're all going to get beat up. even dustin got his ass beat by a pedestrian for coming to someones house.
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Medussa
07/21/19 4:49:26 PM
#72:


Machete posted...
Duran is in the wrong but the dogpiling is excessive and emotionally charged and he won't learn anything from it.


topics don't happen in a vacuum. everyone involved here has repeatedly interacted with each other, on this topic.
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Machete
07/21/19 4:50:53 PM
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Medussa posted...
topics don't happen in a vacuum. everyone involved here has repeatedly interacted with each other, on this topic.


There are less rude ways you could have presented that to me since I don't fucking know the guy

edit: nevermind, carry on
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Machete
07/21/19 4:51:23 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
Machete posted...
Duran is in the wrong

no i'm not


well then, "dogpile away" it is
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PleaseClap
07/21/19 4:53:24 PM
#77:


Machete posted...
Duran is in the wrong but the dogpiling is excessive and emotionally charged and he won't learn anything from it.

A simple correction would be this...

"you don't have to hate transgenders in order to not want to date or flirt with one."

you DO have to hate transgenders in order to push one when you find out they are trans after you flirted. There are no two ways to that.

That's all anyone needed to say to him imo. If he would disagree with me on this point though, well then dogpile away.

Notice how Duran isnt responding to shock or or conflict, who pretty much said exactly that
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Machete
07/21/19 4:55:17 PM
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PleaseClap posted...
Machete posted...
Duran is in the wrong but the dogpiling is excessive and emotionally charged and he won't learn anything from it.

A simple correction would be this...

"you don't have to hate transgenders in order to not want to date or flirt with one."

you DO have to hate transgenders in order to push one when you find out they are trans after you flirted. There are no two ways to that.

That's all anyone needed to say to him imo. If he would disagree with me on this point though, well then dogpile away.

Notice how Duran isnt responding to shock or or conflict, who pretty much said exactly that


his flippant response in #74 says everything I need to know
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PleaseClap
07/21/19 5:01:53 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
He didnt hate her cuz she was trans, he hated her cuz she was a trans woman he flirted with is some real dumb mental gymnastics

Yeah

Basically, there's always someone in these topics saying "well, killing a trans woman is bad I guess, BUT we need to recognize that there's fault on both sides here. Who are we to say who's really to blame here?"
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marc55
07/21/19 5:27:14 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Im not defending it! Just making up insane justifications for why he deserves lesser charges

what is insane is the ridiculous notion nowadays that if you don't want to date or flirt with transgenders then you MUST have unbridled murderous hate for them, no in-between

Youre saying this in defense of a man who killed a woman because she was trans


it was an accident he punched her because she was trans found out she was dying later
thats why he was charged for manslaughter its all there in the article
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PleaseClap
07/21/19 5:29:13 PM
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"He accidentally punched her head into the concrete after knocking her out" is one hell of a take
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MalachiteXWater
07/21/19 5:29:16 PM
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Well besides from Duran having some possibly scary skeletons in his closet the rest of the people in this thread seem to be reacting to this decently.
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Machete
07/21/19 5:30:46 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
thank you for trying to be another voice of reason in this thread, but people like this don't listen to reason


how is pushing her because she's trans not a hate crime? That initial assault is a hate crime. Explain how it isn't.
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PleaseClap
07/21/19 5:32:51 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
He didnt hate her cuz she was trans, he hated her cuz she was a trans woman he flirted with is some real dumb mental gymnastics

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MalachiteXWater
07/21/19 5:34:37 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
MalachiteXWater posted...
Well besides from Duran having some possibly scary skeletons in his closet

what the fuck are you implying here

I'm implying the excuses you were making for this guy was shitty and could reflect that you've would or have made similar comments before.
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Machete
07/21/19 5:35:27 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
it was an unfortunate, drunken, idiotic overreaction to finding out that he was flirting with a transgender woman who he thought was a cis woman


so explain how that isn't a hate crime. Would he have pushed her if she was a cis woman? If not, he pushed her because she was trans. That is the definition of a hate crime. Explain how it isn't.
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marc55
07/21/19 5:36:09 PM
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PleaseClap posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
He didnt hate her cuz she was trans, he hated her cuz she was a trans woman he flirted with is some real dumb mental gymnastics

same as people in this thread who claim whenever you punch someone you do it with the intent to kill them
they are pretty much comparing punching someone to shooting them in the head
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PleaseClap
07/21/19 5:37:51 PM
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marc55 posted...
PleaseClap posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
He didnt hate her cuz she was trans, he hated her cuz she was a trans woman he flirted with is some real dumb mental gymnastics

same as people in this thread who claim whenever you punch someone you do it with the intent to kill them
they are pretty much comparing punching someone to shooting them in the head


Lebronwon posted...
Dixon swung a second punch as she lay on the ground, while driving the side of her head into the pavement, according to prosecutors.

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MalachiteXWater
07/21/19 5:38:18 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
MalachiteXWater posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
MalachiteXWater posted...
Well besides from Duran having some possibly scary skeletons in his closet

what the fuck are you implying here

I'm implying the excuses you were making for this guy was shitty and could reflect that you've would or have made similar comments before.

what comments?

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viewmaster_pi
07/21/19 5:39:47 PM
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I'm sure he didn't expect her to get brain damage when her head hit the ground, but seeing as he decided to punch her AGAIN while she was down, that pretty much rules out anything being "accidental"

the sad truth is he would have done the same thing to anyone, once you go in for more after the person's already down, that should be a murder charge, not an oopsie woopsie manswaughter
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Machete
07/21/19 5:41:10 PM
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Machete posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
it was an unfortunate, drunken, idiotic overreaction to finding out that he was flirting with a transgender woman who he thought was a cis woman


so explain how that isn't a hate crime. Would he have pushed her if she was a cis woman? If not, he pushed her because she was trans. That is the definition of a hate crime. Explain how it isn't.


gonna need this addressed, Duran. Not a good look for you if you ignore it.
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PleaseClap
07/21/19 5:42:29 PM
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