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BaiusGaltar
07/13/19 2:01:19 PM
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Do you support Totalitarianism? - Results (0 votes)
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Is Totalitarianism beneficial for society?
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Antifar
07/13/19 2:04:14 PM
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BaiusGaltar
07/13/19 2:06:03 PM
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Antifar posted...
Context:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77859811/924631438

Correct. That is the origin of this topic. Does it matter? Antifa is totalitarian. Is it different because they're on the left?
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MedeaLysistrata
07/13/19 2:08:16 PM
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Like, with money? No
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hockeybub89
07/13/19 2:09:57 PM
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Antifa wants a dictator and everyone to be a slave to the state?
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BaiusGaltar
07/13/19 2:12:14 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Antifa wants a dictator and everyone to be a slave to the state?


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarianism

Totalitarianism is a political concept of a mode of government that prohibits opposition parties, restricts individual opposition to the state and its claims, and exercises an extremely high degree of control over public and private life. It is regarded as the most extreme and complete form of authoritarianism

What about that differs from what antifa wants?
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hockeybub89
07/13/19 2:21:25 PM
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BaiusGaltar posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Antifa wants a dictator and everyone to be a slave to the state?


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarianism

Totalitarianism is a political concept of a mode of government that prohibits opposition parties, restricts individual opposition to the state and its claims, and exercises an extremely high degree of control over public and private life. It is regarded as the most extreme and complete form of authoritarianism

What about that differs from what antifa wants?

All of it?
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MakoReizei
07/13/19 2:22:16 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Antifa wants a dictator and everyone to be a slave to the state?

yes
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Antifar
07/13/19 2:22:46 PM
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MakoReizei posted...
yes

Seems inaccurate, imo
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hyperpsycho
07/13/19 2:24:10 PM
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BaiusGaltar
07/13/19 2:24:32 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
BaiusGaltar posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Antifa wants a dictator and everyone to be a slave to the state?


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarianism

Totalitarianism is a political concept of a mode of government that prohibits opposition parties, restricts individual opposition to the state and its claims, and exercises an extremely high degree of control over public and private life. It is regarded as the most extreme and complete form of authoritarianism

What about that differs from what antifa wants?

All of it?

But Antifa will use violence against anyone that dares disagree with them. How is that not totalitarian?
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hockeybub89
07/13/19 2:28:00 PM
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BaiusGaltar posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
BaiusGaltar posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Antifa wants a dictator and everyone to be a slave to the state?


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarianism

Totalitarianism is a political concept of a mode of government that prohibits opposition parties, restricts individual opposition to the state and its claims, and exercises an extremely high degree of control over public and private life. It is regarded as the most extreme and complete form of authoritarianism

What about that differs from what antifa wants?

All of it?

But Antifa will use violence against anyone that dares disagree with them. How is that not totalitarian?

Because you can't just pull out a few words from the definition of totalitarianism and make that the new definition. America has been totalitarian by your definition, not to mention basically anyone who has ever gotten violent

You can't call everyone you don't like a totalitarian. What are you? Antifa?
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UnholyMudcrab
07/13/19 2:28:40 PM
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ThyCorndog
07/13/19 2:28:45 PM
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violence =/= totalitarian

you can be violent and not totalitarian
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BaiusGaltar
07/13/19 2:31:41 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...
violence =/= totalitarian

you can be violent and not totalitarian

What's your point? You support totalitarianism, as long as it isn't violent? How do you enforce it without violence. Regardless, antifa is violent.
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ThyCorndog
07/13/19 2:32:24 PM
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BaiusGaltar posted...
ThyCorndog posted...
violence =/= totalitarian

you can be violent and not totalitarian

What's your point? You support totalitarianism, as long as it isn't violent? How do you enforce it without violence. Regardless, antifa is violent.

I don't support totalitarianism. who told you that? I'm just correcting your wrong statements
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uwnim
07/13/19 2:32:27 PM
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I support totalitarianism only if I'm the one at the top.
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BaiusGaltar
07/13/19 2:33:00 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
BaiusGaltar posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
BaiusGaltar posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Antifa wants a dictator and everyone to be a slave to the state?


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarianism

Totalitarianism is a political concept of a mode of government that prohibits opposition parties, restricts individual opposition to the state and its claims, and exercises an extremely high degree of control over public and private life. It is regarded as the most extreme and complete form of authoritarianism

What about that differs from what antifa wants?

All of it?

But Antifa will use violence against anyone that dares disagree with them. How is that not totalitarian?

Because you can't just pull out a few words from the definition of totalitarianism and make that the new definition. America has been totalitarian by your definition, not to mention basically anyone who has ever gotten violent

You can't call everyone you don't like a totalitarian. What are you? Antifa?

No it hasn't. America had been about being able to have an opposing view and to speak your mind. That is the opposite of totalitarianism.
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hockeybub89
07/13/19 2:34:47 PM
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I guess Antifa must be a bunch of trained kickboxers. Violent Antifa groups and kickboxers both use violence to get what they want. Also, kickboxers are totalitarian.
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NinjaBreakfast
07/13/19 2:36:31 PM
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feel like people itt think nazis were socialists
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hockeybub89
07/13/19 2:36:43 PM
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BaiusGaltar posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
BaiusGaltar posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
BaiusGaltar posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Antifa wants a dictator and everyone to be a slave to the state?


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarianism

Totalitarianism is a political concept of a mode of government that prohibits opposition parties, restricts individual opposition to the state and its claims, and exercises an extremely high degree of control over public and private life. It is regarded as the most extreme and complete form of authoritarianism

What about that differs from what antifa wants?

All of it?

But Antifa will use violence against anyone that dares disagree with them. How is that not totalitarian?

Because you can't just pull out a few words from the definition of totalitarianism and make that the new definition. America has been totalitarian by your definition, not to mention basically anyone who has ever gotten violent

You can't call everyone you don't like a totalitarian. What are you? Antifa?

No it hasn't. America had been about being able to have an opposing view and to speak your mind. That is the opposite of totalitarianism.

That is all you took from my post? Nice selecting reading brah
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Machete
07/13/19 2:39:00 PM
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BaiusGaltar posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Antifa wants a dictator and everyone to be a slave to the state?


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarianism

Totalitarianism is a political concept of a mode of government that prohibits opposition parties, restricts individual opposition to the state and its claims, and exercises an extremely high degree of control over public and private life. It is regarded as the most extreme and complete form of authoritarianism

What about that differs from what antifa wants?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8-xCu9hHa8" data-time="

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BobanMarjanovic
07/13/19 2:40:17 PM
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Sounds like Antifa
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BaiusGaltar
07/13/19 2:42:17 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...

That is all you took from my post? Nice selecting reading brah

They precisely fit the definition. Which parts don't apply to them, and why?

hockeybub89 posted...
I guess Antifa must be a bunch of trained kickboxers. Violent Antifa groups and kickboxers both use violence to get what they want. Also, kickboxers are totalitarian.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0" data-time="

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BaiusGaltar
07/13/19 2:45:40 PM
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M_Live posted...
I still don't believe that antifa is an actual group with any sort of organization or leadership the way certain people like to pretend

They operate in cells. This lets them avoid being gone after as a whole.
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ButteryMales
07/13/19 2:50:07 PM
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BaiusGaltar posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
I guess Antifa must be a bunch of trained kickboxers. Violent Antifa groups and kickboxers both use violence to get what they want. Also, kickboxers are totalitarian.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0" data-time="

I'd say the pot calling the kettle black but Hockey was just copying your dumb logic.
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Cornmuffins
07/13/19 2:51:16 PM
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hyperpsycho posted...
Whose alt?

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BaiusGaltar
07/13/19 2:59:44 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...
BaiusGaltar posted...
ThyCorndog posted...
violence =/= totalitarian

you can be violent and not totalitarian

What's your point? You support totalitarianism, as long as it isn't violent? How do you enforce it without violence. Regardless, antifa is violent.

I don't support totalitarianism. who told you that? I'm just correcting your wrong statements

I never said violence was totalitarian.
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hockeybub89
07/13/19 3:16:28 PM
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BaiusGaltar posted...
They precisely fit the definition. Which parts don't apply to them, and why?

All of them

"Violence against people I disagree with" is not the definition of totalitarianism. It's a form of government that requires a dictator, a one-party state, complete subservience to the state, and essentially no freedom.

I don't know how you get they want all that from "saying you hate fascists and maybe attacking people who disagree with you"
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BaiusGaltar
07/13/19 3:23:49 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
BaiusGaltar posted...
They precisely fit the definition. Which parts don't apply to them, and why?

All of them

"Violence against people I disagree with" is not the definition of totalitarianism. It's a form of government that requires a dictator, a one-party state, complete subservience to the state, and essentially no freedom.

I don't know how you get they want all that from "saying you hate fascists and maybe attacking people who disagree with you"

Because they go against anyone that disagrees with them, not just fascists.
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Antifar
07/13/19 3:26:31 PM
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BaiusGaltar posted...
Because they go against anyone that disagrees with them

They don't, though. You don't hear about Antifa storming into Democratic party meetings, when God knows there are major disagreements there.
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BaiusGaltar
07/13/19 3:33:44 PM
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Antifar posted...
BaiusGaltar posted...
Because they go against anyone that disagrees with them

They don't, though. You don't hear about Antifa storming into Democratic party meetings, when God knows there are major disagreements there.

That has more to do with what would happen, if they did. They have clearly shown a willingness to use violence on people who aren't fascists or nazis. If they had the power, they would suppress any and all opposition.
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ButteryMales
07/13/19 3:35:44 PM
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BaiusGaltar posted...
If they had the power, they would suppress any and all opposition.

This is called a non-sequitur.
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BaiusGaltar
07/13/19 3:39:08 PM
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ButteryMales posted...
BaiusGaltar posted...
If they had the power, they would suppress any and all opposition.

This is called a non-sequitur.

No, it isn't. They have demonstrated a willingness to use violence on people simply for disagreeing with them.
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ButteryMales
07/13/19 3:42:46 PM
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BaiusGaltar posted...
ButteryMales posted...
BaiusGaltar posted...
If they had the power, they would suppress any and all opposition.

This is called a non-sequitur.

No, it isn't. They have demonstrated a willingness to use violence on people simply for disagreeing with them.

You don't see them running over people at Trump rallies.
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andel
07/13/19 3:43:06 PM
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tc has proven he doesnt understand what words mean
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tennisdude818
07/13/19 3:52:00 PM
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NinjaBreakfast posted...
feel like people itt think nazis were socialists


They were left of center on economics, just like the alt right. Or maybe its better to say they leaned authoritarian on economics. Depends on if you consider free market economics as right wing as opposed to just calling it libertarian.
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ButteryMales
07/13/19 4:01:42 PM
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tennisdude818 posted...
NinjaBreakfast posted...
feel like people itt think nazis were socialists


They were left of center on economics, just like the alt right. Or maybe its better to say they leaned authoritarian on economics. Depends on if you consider free market economics as right wing as opposed to just calling it libertarian.

They came for the trade unionists 2nd, and I revised history
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BaiusGaltar
07/13/19 4:01:42 PM
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ButteryMales posted...
BaiusGaltar posted...
ButteryMales posted...
BaiusGaltar posted...
If they had the power, they would suppress any and all opposition.

This is called a non-sequitur.

No, it isn't. They have demonstrated a willingness to use violence on people simply for disagreeing with them.

You don't see them running over people at Trump rallies.

Yet.
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