Current Events > AOC says 200 million Americans make less than 20k a year, 40% of this country?

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Gtalady91
07/12/19 6:48:08 PM
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pauIie
07/12/19 6:49:34 PM
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ArchiePeck
07/12/19 6:50:10 PM
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pauIie posted...
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Reis
07/12/19 6:50:46 PM
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Gtalady91
07/12/19 6:53:02 PM
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kyujo
07/12/19 6:53:28 PM
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Did she? Either way, seems incorrect from a quick check
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Gtalady91
07/12/19 6:56:31 PM
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Doom_Art
07/12/19 6:57:22 PM
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Rent free
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nativengine
07/12/19 6:59:09 PM
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Her saying dumb shit is barely news worthy at this point. Honestly, just ignore her.
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Hanky_Bannister
07/12/19 7:00:06 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Rent free

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Awesome
07/12/19 7:00:53 PM
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no what she meant was when shes president shell open the borders to get 200,000,000 million more people then close the borders, then there will be 500,000,000 people in the usa. its all part of her globalist plan.
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iPhone_7
07/12/19 7:01:11 PM
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Maybe shes including undocumented Americans
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__aCEr__
07/12/19 7:01:21 PM
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I don't know why people pay THIS much attention to someone who (likely) isn't their congressional representative.
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Gtalady91
07/12/19 7:01:47 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
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So is Trump brah. She said that but keep ignoring her ignorance
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sabin017
07/12/19 7:01:52 PM
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If newborns to 16 year-olds count then maybe? It makes no sense including them though.
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YourDrunkFather
07/12/19 7:02:15 PM
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Hanky_Bannister posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Hurr durr

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Gtalady91
07/12/19 7:02:46 PM
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iPhone_7 posted...
Maybe shes including undocumented Americans


Lol, probably.
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Awesome
07/12/19 7:03:23 PM
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__aCEr__ posted...
I don't know why people pay THIS much attention to someone who (likely) isn't their congressional representative.


because shes going to be leading the gullible millennial crowd to vote for her, shes dangerous.
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archedsoul
07/12/19 7:03:49 PM
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Lol, wow. She's dumber than I thought.
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Tmaster148
07/12/19 7:05:56 PM
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Gtalady91 posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Rent free


So is Trump brah. She said that but keep ignoring her ignorance


One is president and the other is a representative for a single area of this country. Very comparable.
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Gtalady91
07/12/19 7:05:57 PM
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Spooking posted...
I don't know why the left decided to put AOC up on a pedestal to showcase progressive ideas. What a mistake that was. LOL!


Because shes hot I guess.
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OctaviaMeIody69
07/12/19 7:06:58 PM
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I'm with Nancy P. here, AoC needs to shut up.
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Gtalady91
07/12/19 7:07:02 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
Gtalady91 posted...
Doom_Art posted...
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So is Trump brah. She said that but keep ignoring her ignorance


One is president and the other is a representative for a single area of this country. Very comparable.


But people want her to be president, two wrongs dont make a right.
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sktgamer_13dude
07/12/19 7:08:43 PM
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Awesome posted...
no what she meant was when shes president shell open the borders to get 200,000,000 million more people then close the borders, then there will be 500,000,000 people in the usa. its all part of her globalist plan.

200,000,000 million is a lot more than 500,000,000.
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nativengine
07/12/19 7:10:00 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
Gtalady91 posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Rent free


So is Trump brah. She said that but keep ignoring her ignorance


One is president and the other is a representative for a single area of this country. Very comparable.


Well hold on, does that make her statement any more true? Of course not, both should be called out for the dumb shit they say.
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Damn_Underscore
07/12/19 7:14:56 PM
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AOC is the most popular Representative in the US.

Prove me wrong, Pelosi is the only one who might be more popular.
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MARKINGRAM22
07/12/19 7:21:55 PM
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nativengine posted...
Her saying dumb shit is barely news worthy at this point. Honestly, just ignore her.
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Tmaster148
07/12/19 7:22:10 PM
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Gtalady91 posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
Gtalady91 posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Rent free


So is Trump brah. She said that but keep ignoring her ignorance


One is president and the other is a representative for a single area of this country. Very comparable.


But people want her to be president, two wrongs dont make a right.


I guess with the way the right talks about her. She might as well be president.
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Gtalady91
07/12/19 7:28:25 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
Gtalady91 posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
Gtalady91 posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Rent free


So is Trump brah. She said that but keep ignoring her ignorance


One is president and the other is a representative for a single area of this country. Very comparable.


But people want her to be president, two wrongs dont make a right.


I guess with the way the right talks about her. She might as well be president.


Again two wrongs dont make a right and she needs to have her ignorance brought to light
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Gtalady91
07/12/19 7:46:15 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
AOC is the most popular Representative in the US.

Prove me wrong, Pelosi is the only one who might be more popular.


I cant

Shes praised and despised and is a huge topic of discussion from both sides.

MARKINGRAM22 posted...
nativengine posted...
Her saying dumb shit is barely news worthy at this point. Honestly, just ignore her.


I dont disagree but both sides need to be heard.
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nativengine
07/12/19 7:55:36 PM
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Gtalady91 posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
AOC is the most popular Representative in the US.

Prove me wrong, Pelosi is the only one who might be more popular.


I cant

Shes praised and despised and is a huge topic of discussion from both sides.

MARKINGRAM22 posted...
nativengine posted...
Her saying dumb shit is barely news worthy at this point. Honestly, just ignore her.


I dont disagree but both sides need to be heard.


Sure, but you yourself admit she says dumb shit. She literally cant run for the next election. I truly feel shes talked about so much because shes young and kinda attractive... for a politician. Again, just ignore her ignorance
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ThanksUglyGod
07/12/19 7:59:28 PM
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Well, she's wrong, but so what? This isn't even the dumbest thing I've heard a politician say in the last 24 hours.
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modena
07/12/19 8:00:36 PM
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OctaviaMeIody69 posted...
I'm with Nancy P. here, AoC needs to shut up.

And Winfrey
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MaverickXeo
07/12/19 8:10:31 PM
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sabin017 posted...
If newborns to 16 year-olds count then maybe? It makes no sense including them though.


The population of the USA is 327 million as of 2018.

The 2010 census indicated those under 18 account for 73 million, and those over 65 account for 35 million. If those individuals were what she meant, that is still no where near the 200 million.

Her 'estimate' means that 2/3s of the population makes under $10/hour at full time hours. Most likely, IF her numbers are correct, that would mean those who are working part time (due to other commitments - school, family, etc), or a LOT of the nation is working at or under min wage.
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Hanky_Bannister
07/12/19 8:15:10 PM
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right triggered af again

need a AOC safe space? XD
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Proto_Spark
07/12/19 8:27:54 PM
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https://thinkprogress.org/forty-percent-of-workers-made-less-than-20-000-last-year-ef716e152a40/

40% of US workers made less than 20000 last year. 40% of workers is not 200 million people, and median wage is the lowest its been since 1998. 40% of workers doesn't include things like children or the elderly, so 40% of workers also means all of those workers (grand)parents and children who aren't able to work need to be supported off of that 20k/year.

So we have a real problem here, but AOC accidentally carried a 0 so let's just lol at her instead.
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ThyCorndog
07/12/19 8:28:14 PM
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man you guys gotta get off of AOC's nice feminine penis and focus on something productive
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Shablagoo
07/12/19 8:32:23 PM
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Does anyone know the actual numbers on this? Im curious now.
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hockeybub89
07/12/19 8:36:34 PM
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"Her ignorance needs to be brought to light. She's gonna to lead Democrats astray"

"MAGA"
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hockeybub89
07/12/19 8:37:45 PM
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Proto_Spark posted...
https://thinkprogress.org/forty-percent-of-workers-made-less-than-20-000-last-year-ef716e152a40/

40% of US workers made less than 20000 last year. 40% of workers is not 200 million people, and median wage is the lowest its been since 1998. 40% of workers doesn't include things like children or the elderly, so 40% of workers also means all of those workers (grand)parents and children who aren't able to work need to be supported off of that 20k/year.

So we have a real problem here, but AOC accidentally carried a 0 so let's just lol at her instead.

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Giblet_Enjoyer
07/12/19 8:40:04 PM
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Shablagoo posted...
Does anyone know the actual numbers on this? Im curious now.

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AlephZero
07/12/19 8:41:47 PM
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anyone who calls her out will be labeled racist
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Shablagoo
07/12/19 8:43:50 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Proto_Spark posted...
https://thinkprogress.org/forty-percent-of-workers-made-less-than-20-000-last-year-ef716e152a40/

40% of US workers made less than 20000 last year. 40% of workers is not 200 million people, and median wage is the lowest its been since 1998. 40% of workers doesn't include things like children or the elderly, so 40% of workers also means all of those workers (grand)parents and children who aren't able to work need to be supported off of that 20k/year.

So we have a real problem here, but AOC accidentally carried a 0 so let's just lol at her instead.

But rent free

So when someone says were creating more jobs! doesnt that just mean they are making poor people work harder, for less pay?
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IMNOTRAGED
07/12/19 8:45:40 PM
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Dunno where she got the 200M number from but as of 2012 ~40% of the american workforce was making less than 20k a year.

https://thinkprogress.org/forty-percent-of-workers-made-less-than-20-000-last-year-ef716e152a40/

That has dropped to ~35% in '17.

https://www.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/netcomp.cgi?year=2017
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MaverickXeo
07/12/19 8:50:12 PM
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Proto_Spark posted...
https://thinkprogress.org/forty-percent-of-workers-made-less-than-20-000-last-year-ef716e152a40/

40% of US workers made less than 20000 last year. 40% of workers is not 200 million people, and median wage is the lowest its been since 1998. 40% of workers doesn't include things like children or the elderly, so 40% of workers also means all of those workers (grand)parents and children who aren't able to work need to be supported off of that 20k/year.

So we have a real problem here, but AOC accidentally carried a 0 so let's just lol at her instead.


On the flip side, it is totally (and most likely) possible that those who made less than $20000 were either semi-retired, working part time as a second income, or as a student. We cannot safely assume that this is everyone working full time making these lower incomes. We need to look at household incomes to get a better understanding rather than individual income.

Another thing to consider is 'claimed' income may be different than actual. Servers will be very unlikely to claim tips and there are those who work for cash who will not claim either.
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TheApexPredator
07/12/19 8:50:29 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...
man you guys gotta get off of AOC's nice feminine penis and focus on something productive


You guys have no problem making topics for everything Trump says anyways.
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ultimate reaver
07/12/19 8:51:05 PM
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The number fluctuates year to year but that >20k figure usually seems to jump between the mid-30%s and 40%. She got the number of people pretty wrong, but she wasn't that off about the workforce.

Trump is not the person you want to be making a comparison with here, he outright lies constantly more than getting things wrong
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s0nicfan
07/12/19 8:51:26 PM
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Proto_Spark posted...
https://thinkprogress.org/forty-percent-of-workers-made-less-than-20-000-last-year-ef716e152a40/

40% of US workers made less than 20000 last year. 40% of workers is not 200 million people, and median wage is the lowest its been since 1998. 40% of workers doesn't include things like children or the elderly, so 40% of workers also means all of those workers (grand)parents and children who aren't able to work need to be supported off of that 20k/year.

So we have a real problem here, but AOC accidentally carried a 0 so let's just lol at her instead.


That 40% includes part time workers. If you look at the actual report, over a third of that 40% consists of people who made between a penny at $5K
https://www.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/netcomp.cgi?year=2012

And of that 40%, over half made less than $10K. If we're going to be like Think Progress and talk about how that impacts "families of four" we should probably be honest in our assessment and figure out what percentage of "workers" are actually trying to work full time. For example, nearly a third of all people aged 16-19 work. Almost 70% of people 20-24 work which includes a significant number of college students working while in school. Are we counting their yearly income when we talk what "workers" make?
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/01/07/number-of-older-americans-in-the-workforce-is-on-the-rise/
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IMNOTRAGED
07/12/19 8:55:47 PM
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TheApexPredator posted...
You guys have no problem making topics for everything Trump says anyways.


One is the president with a senate majority and SCOTUS enabling his bullshit while the other is a congresswoman.

Not that I really care about these AOC topics but the two things are not equatable.
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