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cjsdowg
07/10/19 11:13:42 PM
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Police in southern California are facing questions over the fatal shooting of a 17-year-old girl, who her family says was killed for no reason after a minor traffic incident near her home on Friday evening.

An officer from the Fullerton police department shot Hannah Williams around 7pm on Friday less than two miles from her home in Anaheim, about 25 miles south of Los Angeles. Authorities on Tuesday declined to say what happened prior to the shooting or why the officer fired at her, but claimed that a replica gun was recovered at the scene.

Representatives for the family of Williams said the teenager did not pose a threat, that the police had given them no information about finding a toy gun, and that law enforcement was disparaging her in the media...

Anaheim police departments role is to investigate any criminal actions by Williams, Sgt Daron Wyatt told the Guardian in an email on Tuesday morning. Since she is deceased, it is a moot point, he added. Wyatt said he had no further updates, since the interview of the involved officer hasnt taken place yet.

Its unclear why the officer had not yet been questioned four days after the killing.


-So if she did pull a fake gun on them, that matters. However the police are not saying shit about what happened , and how anything went down. This makes me wonder. Normally when a Civilian is fully in the wrong the police get all the information out there right than. However that are literally waiting days to explain why they killed teenager. The fix is already in and it smells bad.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/09/hannah-williams-killed-police-shooting-anaheim?CMP=share_btn_tw
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MasterGakke
07/10/19 11:16:34 PM
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Seems like you're trying to hold police in American accountable for their actions. Not cool, bro. Blue Lives Matter.
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Darmik
07/10/19 11:20:33 PM
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The killing by police in Orange county has reignited concerns about brutality by law enforcement in a region that has a history of excessive force scandals. The American Civil Liberties Union reported in 2017 that the local Anaheim police department used excessive force at a rate that far outpaced law enforcement agencies in similar cities. The county sheriffs department was also accused of brutalizing an intoxicated man in an incident caught on camera last year.

Williams family did not trust the Fullerton police to conduct a proper inquiry, Maupin said. The local authorities are not capable of handling this situation. How can Fullerton police investigate itself?


That doesn't sound good
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berlyman101
07/10/19 11:23:39 PM
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Jiek_Fafn
07/10/19 11:28:02 PM
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Officer was obviously scared for his life. Probably saw a g-g-g-ghost.
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lordofmud
07/10/19 11:30:01 PM
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Seeing as you have replica written down the side of yours.
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Number090684
07/10/19 11:35:01 PM
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And "patriotic, hero worshipping" people wonder why a lot of the public doesn't trust cops. Also, why the fuck wasn't the officer's body cam on? This story reeks of negligence and corruption and the crooked cops covering for the bastard who killed her are hardly any better.

If it really was her fault they would have exposed it already. They need to hurry up and take the murder to trial and give the family their financial settlement because this is probably how it's going to play out in the long run.
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Zeeak4444
07/10/19 11:39:40 PM
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Fullerton police have a wild history tbh.

also did I read that wrong or was the reasoning why the investigation hasnt taken place literally the victims dead, whats the point?
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cjsdowg
07/10/19 11:41:13 PM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
Fullerton police have a wild history tbh.

also did I read that wrong or was the reasoning why the investigation hasnt taken place literally the victims dead, whats the point?


Yep that is what the police said.
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Zeeak4444
07/10/19 11:47:21 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
Fullerton police have a wild history tbh.

also did I read that wrong or was the reasoning why the investigation hasnt taken place literally the victims dead, whats the point?


Yep that is what the police said.


Thats repulsive.
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Cheater87
07/10/19 11:51:03 PM
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You don't pull a gun fake or not on police!
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Darmik
07/10/19 11:51:46 PM
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Cheater87 posted...
You don't pull a gun fake or not on police!


The police haven't said what happened
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thronedfire2
07/10/19 11:53:10 PM
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Darmik posted...
The killing by police in Orange county has reignited concerns about brutality by law enforcement in a region that has a history of excessive force scandals. The American Civil Liberties Union reported in 2017 that the local Anaheim police department used excessive force at a rate that far outpaced law enforcement agencies in similar cities. The county sheriffs department was also accused of brutalizing an intoxicated man in an incident caught on camera last year.

Williams family did not trust the Fullerton police to conduct a proper inquiry, Maupin said. The local authorities are not capable of handling this situation. How can Fullerton police investigate itself?


That doesn't sound good


same place they shot up the guy in the taco bell drive through?
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Medussa
07/10/19 11:55:48 PM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
cjsdowg posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
Fullerton police have a wild history tbh.

also did I read that wrong or was the reasoning why the investigation hasnt taken place literally the victims dead, whats the point?


Yep that is what the police said.


Thats repulsive.


isn't even worse? it's "the criminal's dead, what's the point. what do you mean, what did she do?"
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Darmik
07/10/19 11:59:20 PM
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It's really frightening how some police and prosecutors can just end and ruin lives with no consequences if they get it wrong. Where's the accountability? How is justice supposed to happen when they're all supporting each other?
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Grischnak
07/11/19 1:06:21 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
Police in southern California are facing questions over the fatal shooting of a 17-year-old girl, who her family says was killed for no reason after a minor traffic incident near her home on Friday evening.

An officer from the Fullerton police department shot Hannah Williams around 7pm on Friday less than two miles from her home in Anaheim, about 25 miles south of Los Angeles. Authorities on Tuesday declined to say what happened prior to the shooting or why the officer fired at her, but claimed that a replica gun was recovered at the scene.

Representatives for the family of Williams said the teenager did not pose a threat, that the police had given them no information about finding a toy gun, and that law enforcement was disparaging her in the media...

Anaheim police departments role is to investigate any criminal actions by Williams, Sgt Daron Wyatt told the Guardian in an email on Tuesday morning. Since she is deceased, it is a moot point, he added. Wyatt said he had no further updates, since the interview of the involved officer hasnt taken place yet.

Its unclear why the officer had not yet been questioned four days after the killing.


-So if she did pull a fake gun on them, that matters. However the police are not saying shit about what happened , and how anything went down. This makes me wonder. Normally when a Civilian is fully in the wrong the police get all the information out there right than. However that are literally waiting days to explain why they killed teenager. The fix is already in and it smells bad.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/09/hannah-williams-killed-police-shooting-anaheim?CMP=share_btn_tw

Since when does it matter if "the civilian is fully in the wrong"? It's 2019. Nobody gives a shit about what actually happens in these clickbait shooting stories. The girl could have pulled out the fake gun, pointed it at the cop and said "I'm gonna fucking kill you pig" and all of that could be on the cop's bodycam and there would still be thousands saying she was an innocent angel who was massacred by an evil cop. In all likelihood, they are probably just waiting until the investigation is finished before they go public. Could it be a bad shooting? Absolutely. But other then the speeding, crash and fake gun aspects we don't really know anything atm. Hard to judge. Not that that is going to stop anyone...
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Darmik
07/11/19 1:11:52 AM
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Grischnak posted...
cjsdowg posted...
Police in southern California are facing questions over the fatal shooting of a 17-year-old girl, who her family says was killed for no reason after a minor traffic incident near her home on Friday evening.

An officer from the Fullerton police department shot Hannah Williams around 7pm on Friday less than two miles from her home in Anaheim, about 25 miles south of Los Angeles. Authorities on Tuesday declined to say what happened prior to the shooting or why the officer fired at her, but claimed that a replica gun was recovered at the scene.

Representatives for the family of Williams said the teenager did not pose a threat, that the police had given them no information about finding a toy gun, and that law enforcement was disparaging her in the media...

Anaheim police departments role is to investigate any criminal actions by Williams, Sgt Daron Wyatt told the Guardian in an email on Tuesday morning. Since she is deceased, it is a moot point, he added. Wyatt said he had no further updates, since the interview of the involved officer hasnt taken place yet.

Its unclear why the officer had not yet been questioned four days after the killing.


-So if she did pull a fake gun on them, that matters. However the police are not saying shit about what happened , and how anything went down. This makes me wonder. Normally when a Civilian is fully in the wrong the police get all the information out there right than. However that are literally waiting days to explain why they killed teenager. The fix is already in and it smells bad.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/09/hannah-williams-killed-police-shooting-anaheim?CMP=share_btn_tw

Since when does it matter if "the civilian is fully in the wrong"? It's 2019. Nobody gives a shit about what actually happens in these clickbait shooting stories. The girl could have pulled out the fake gun, pointed it at the cop and said "I'm gonna fucking kill you pig" and all of that could be on the cop's bodycam and there would still be thousands saying she was an innocent angel who was massacred by an evil cop. In all likelihood, they are probably just waiting until the investigation is finished before they go public. Could it be a bad shooting? Absolutely. But other then the speeding, crash and fake gun aspects we don't really know anything atm. Hard to judge. Not that that is going to stop anyone...


It shouldn't take 4 days for them to interview the police officer involved and they really should have more stuff to say than "Since she is deceased, it is a moot point"

Also as referenced earlier the county has a history of excessive force.
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Cornmuffins
07/11/19 1:12:04 AM
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Grischnak posted...
cjsdowg posted...
Police in southern California are facing questions over the fatal shooting of a 17-year-old girl, who her family says was killed for no reason after a minor traffic incident near her home on Friday evening.

An officer from the Fullerton police department shot Hannah Williams around 7pm on Friday less than two miles from her home in Anaheim, about 25 miles south of Los Angeles. Authorities on Tuesday declined to say what happened prior to the shooting or why the officer fired at her, but claimed that a replica gun was recovered at the scene.

Representatives for the family of Williams said the teenager did not pose a threat, that the police had given them no information about finding a toy gun, and that law enforcement was disparaging her in the media...

Anaheim police departments role is to investigate any criminal actions by Williams, Sgt Daron Wyatt told the Guardian in an email on Tuesday morning. Since she is deceased, it is a moot point, he added. Wyatt said he had no further updates, since the interview of the involved officer hasnt taken place yet.

Its unclear why the officer had not yet been questioned four days after the killing.


-So if she did pull a fake gun on them, that matters. However the police are not saying shit about what happened , and how anything went down. This makes me wonder. Normally when a Civilian is fully in the wrong the police get all the information out there right than. However that are literally waiting days to explain why they killed teenager. The fix is already in and it smells bad.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/09/hannah-williams-killed-police-shooting-anaheim?CMP=share_btn_tw

Since when does it matter if "the civilian is fully in the wrong"? It's 2019. Nobody gives a shit about what actually happens in these clickbait shooting stories. The girl could have pulled out the fake gun, pointed it at the cop and said "I'm gonna fucking kill you pig" and all of that could be on the cop's bodycam and there would still be thousands saying she was an innocent angel who was massacred by an evil cop. In all likelihood, they are probably just waiting until the investigation is finished before they go public. Could it be a bad shooting? Absolutely. But other then the speeding, crash and fake gun aspects we don't really know anything atm. Hard to judge. Not that that is going to stop anyone...


Including yourself it seems
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ZeroKelvin
07/11/19 1:12:24 AM
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Fuck these pigs
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Iron-Tarkus
07/11/19 1:35:28 AM
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Grischnak posted...
cjsdowg posted...
Police in southern California are facing questions over the fatal shooting of a 17-year-old girl, who her family says was killed for no reason after a minor traffic incident near her home on Friday evening.

An officer from the Fullerton police department shot Hannah Williams around 7pm on Friday less than two miles from her home in Anaheim, about 25 miles south of Los Angeles. Authorities on Tuesday declined to say what happened prior to the shooting or why the officer fired at her, but claimed that a replica gun was recovered at the scene.

Representatives for the family of Williams said the teenager did not pose a threat, that the police had given them no information about finding a toy gun, and that law enforcement was disparaging her in the media...

Anaheim police departments role is to investigate any criminal actions by Williams, Sgt Daron Wyatt told the Guardian in an email on Tuesday morning. Since she is deceased, it is a moot point, he added. Wyatt said he had no further updates, since the interview of the involved officer hasnt taken place yet.

Its unclear why the officer had not yet been questioned four days after the killing.


-So if she did pull a fake gun on them, that matters. However the police are not saying shit about what happened , and how anything went down. This makes me wonder. Normally when a Civilian is fully in the wrong the police get all the information out there right than. However that are literally waiting days to explain why they killed teenager. The fix is already in and it smells bad.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/09/hannah-williams-killed-police-shooting-anaheim?CMP=share_btn_tw

Since when does it matter if "the civilian is fully in the wrong"? It's 2019. Nobody gives a shit about what actually happens in these clickbait shooting stories. The girl could have pulled out the fake gun, pointed it at the cop and said "I'm gonna fucking kill you pig" and all of that could be on the cop's bodycam and there would still be thousands saying she was an innocent angel who was massacred by an evil cop. In all likelihood, they are probably just waiting until the investigation is finished before they go public. Could it be a bad shooting? Absolutely. But other then the speeding, crash and fake gun aspects we don't really know anything atm. Hard to judge. Not that that is going to stop anyone...

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coinstarcad
07/11/19 1:35:59 AM
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What happened is they just wanted to get some thrills and make a family mourn. You know what happens when you fear for your life, you fall back and hesitate like that cop who froze during the las vegas massacre.
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Grischnak
07/11/19 1:31:05 PM
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Cornmuffins posted...
Including yourself it seems


The only thing I passed judgment on involving this story is that I think people are jumping to conclusions too early. Because always do. Like remember last week when "cops pulled on a gun on pregnant woman because her daughter stole a doll" but a few days later it came out that the father had also stolen stuff and, most importantly, they fled from the police(which is the actual reason the cops drew weapons on them). But of course the clickbait never mentions that part of the story and by the time people hear about they've already committed to defending their side.
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ultimate reaver
07/11/19 1:33:33 PM
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Gotta get a story straight
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cjsdowg
07/11/19 3:58:58 PM
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Grischnak posted...

The only thing I passed judgment on involving this story is that I think people are jumping to conclusions too early. Because always do. Like remember last week when "cops pulled on a gun on pregnant woman because her daughter stole a doll" but a few days later it came out that the father had also stolen stuff and, most importantly, they fled from the police(which is the actual reason the cops drew weapons on them). But of course the clickbait never mentions that part of the story and by the time people hear about they've already committed to defending their side.


I love how you tell the police side of the story and that's it. While not supporting it with real evidence . We have video evidence of them LYING about what happened.
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Grischnak
07/11/19 6:29:25 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
I love how you tell the police side of the story and that's it. While not supporting it with real evidence . We have video evidence of them LYING about what happened.


So they didn't flee from police? And there's video of this? Ok. Show me. I'm perfectly willing to change my mind if shown proof.
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Zeeak4444
07/13/19 1:28:38 AM
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Grischnak posted...
Cornmuffins posted...
Including yourself it seems


The only thing I passed judgment on involving this story is that I think people are jumping to conclusions too early. Because always do. Like remember last week when "cops pulled on a gun on pregnant woman because her daughter stole a doll" but a few days later it came out that the father had also stolen stuff and, most importantly, they fled from the police(which is the actual reason the cops drew weapons on them). But of course the clickbait never mentions that part of the story and by the time people hear about they've already committed to defending their side.


Fleeing from police is not a valid reason to shoot someone.

This isnt even my opinion, this is whats actually taught to officers and is detailed in use of force.

So you already fucked up in your argument.

You also somehow missed that the main criticism has been the reason the investigation hasnt taken place.

But comprehension can be hard. Its okay, youll get there some day.
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GreatEvilEmpire
07/13/19 1:55:24 AM
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Cop haters are out in full force again. I guess it doesn't matter that she got into a shooting stance and pointed a fake gun at the police officer.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1029476
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thronedfire2
07/13/19 2:15:52 AM
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Yeah so that looks like a suicide by cop from reading that story
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Zeeak4444
07/13/19 2:16:02 AM
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GreatEvilEmpire posted...
Cop haters are out in full force again. I guess it doesn't matter that she got into a shooting stance and pointed a fake gun at the police officer.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1029476

Looks like suicide by cop to me.


Nah it matters, its also something that should have been stated and released long ago.

Instead we got victims dead, who cares. So if anything its on the dipshit PR team and not the haters.
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Mr_Karate_II
07/13/19 2:20:12 AM
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GreatEvilEmpire posted...
Cop haters are out in full force again. I guess it doesn't matter that she got into a shooting stance and pointed a fake gun at the police officer.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1029476

Looks like suicide by cop to me.

Not to mention, she hit the officers car.
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Grischnak
07/13/19 8:31:03 PM
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So it was suicide by cop. It's sad the young lady died but this was a reasonable shooting.

Zeeak4444 posted...
Grischnak posted...
Cornmuffins posted...
Including yourself it seems


The only thing I passed judgment on involving this story is that I think people are jumping to conclusions too early. Because always do. Like remember last week when "cops pulled on a gun on pregnant woman because her daughter stole a doll" but a few days later it came out that the father had also stolen stuff and, most importantly, they fled from the police(which is the actual reason the cops drew weapons on them). But of course the clickbait never mentions that part of the story and by the time people hear about they've already committed to defending their side.


Fleeing from police is not a valid reason to shoot someone.

This isnt even my opinion, this is whats actually taught to officers and is detailed in use of force.

So you already fucked up in your argument.

You also somehow missed that the main criticism has been the reason the investigation hasnt taken place.

But comprehension can be hard. Its okay, youll get there some day.

So no. There is no proof. Gotcha. Also, I never said fleeing from police is a reason by itself to shoot someone and since nobody was even shot I'm not sure why you're claiming that was my argument. Might want to take a look in the mirror before you start talking shit about reading comprehension.
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Machete
07/13/19 8:44:42 PM
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MasterGakke posted...
Blue Lives Matter


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TheMikh
07/13/19 8:50:33 PM
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cops are corrupt and socal cops are among the worst
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