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Bass_X0 posted...

They wouldnt dare whiteface up a black character.

You ever see Passion of the Christ?
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voldothegr8 posted...

Hanky_Bannister posted...

so racism is trending, got it

FrisbeeDude posted...

Imagine hating black people so much, you lose your shit over the the skin color of a cartoon mermaid

How would y'all feel if they remade Blade as a white guy?

Personally, I'd hate it as much as this.

Who cares. It's not central to his character. Fragile people crying over a toon's live-action adaptation is hilarious

Bass_X0 posted...

Every Batman movie respected the comic book original at least.

"Ben Affleck is a homicidal maniac in BvS akin to The Punisher but they kept him the same skin tone so it's all good."
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RebelElite791 posted...

VerisimiIitude posted...

I honestly hate when Hollywood does stuff like this, not because Im hung up on the race of the characters, but because everyone else seems to be.

So maybe take issue with the racist assholes instead of Hollywood

I do but its tiresome to see the internet blowup all the time over this stuff, especially when no ones changing anyone elses mind.
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DevsBro posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

But the left are the snowflakes.

I don't see how complaining about race swapping means you think you're unique in a really bizarre made up way but ok.

Snowflake encompasses super sensitive as well. Delicate. Im no fan of race swapping myself but to complain this much about it? Its sad honestly.
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VerisimiIitude posted...

RebelElite791 posted...

VerisimiIitude posted...

I honestly hate when Hollywood does stuff like this, not because Im hung up on the race of the characters, but because everyone else seems to be.

So maybe take issue with the racist assholes instead of Hollywood

I do but its tiresome to see the internet blowup all the time over this stuff, especially when no ones changing anyone elses mind.

then stop going into the topics and posting in them.

What we really need is a Middle Eastern Batman. That would really trigger some folk.
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Zodd3224 posted...

What we really need is a Middle Eastern Batman. That would really trigger some folk.

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Kelystic posted...

no one complained when sam jackson plays nick fury

Ultimate Comics has SLJ Fury for years before the films.

He's a far lamer character than the classic 616, but that was something already done.

And I will say the red heads constantly being screwed is rather lame, will this change the park actors too?
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troll_swag posted...

Bass_X0 posted...

They wouldnt dare whiteface up a black character.

Yeah you must not remember when the depicted Cleopatra as white.

The ethnically Greek Cleopatra?

I will say Greek actors need a push too, rather lame they never get used for Hercules even, Marvel had better snag a big Greek dude for him.
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Literal snowflakes
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I don't give a shit about black (or white) washing unless it's done in a situation that doesn't make any sense for them to be made one way or the other. People are trying to round-peg-square-hole this into being one of those, but it's just not.

Who the fuck cares what race a fucking mermaid is? Right wingers who could give a shit about minorities and underrepresented people are suddenly talking like they're experts on media representation and trying to save the red heads and it's the most cringy disingenuous shit on earth. And then you've got the other side of people crowing on about his this is a win for a minorities since a poc is a disney princess, as if anyone in the whole goddamn world is going to remember this as anything other than "oh yeah they made a bad little mermaid remake" a couple months after it comes out.
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white racists are so pathetic.
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hollow_shrine posted...

CommonStar posted...

Tituss Burgess should've been casted for Ursula.

Oh yes! My goodness. And he would do it too, and slayyyy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mz6tw5Zddg" data-time="

It'd also be a cool nod to the inspiration of the animated original, the drag queen Divine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDwHwWuUuk4" data-time="

That this didn't happen is homophobic. I'm triggered.

It's too bad they already casted Melissa McCarthy

ultimate reaver posted...

I don't give a shit about black (or white) washing unless it's done in a situation that doesn't make any sense for them to be made one way or the other. People are trying to round-peg-square-hole this into being one of those, but it's just not.

Who the fuck cares what race a fucking mermaid is? Right wingers who could give a shit about minorities and underrepresented people are suddenly talking like they're experts on media representation and trying to save the red heads and it's the most cringy disingenuous shit on earth. And then you've got the other side of people crowing on about his this is a win for a minorities since a poc is a disney princess, as if anyone in the whole goddamn world is going to remember this as anything other than "oh yeah they made a bad little mermaid remake" a couple months after it comes out.

This isn't so much as a win for minorities thing as it is a lol angry white people thing
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troll_swag posted...

ultimate reaver posted...

I don't give a shit about black (or white) washing unless it's done in a situation that doesn't make any sense for them to be made one way or the other. People are trying to round-peg-square-hole this into being one of those, but it's just not.

Who the fuck cares what race a fucking mermaid is? Right wingers who could give a shit about minorities and underrepresented people are suddenly talking like they're experts on media representation and trying to save the red heads and it's the most cringy disingenuous shit on earth. And then you've got the other side of people crowing on about his this is a win for a minorities since a poc is a disney princess, as if anyone in the whole goddamn world is going to remember this as anything other than "oh yeah they made a bad little mermaid remake" a couple months after it comes out.

This isn't so much as a win for minorities thing as it is a lol angry white people thing

It's sad that something like this is looked at as a win or a loss for anybody
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Zodd3224 posted...

troll_swag posted...

ultimate reaver posted...

I don't give a shit about black (or white) washing unless it's done in a situation that doesn't make any sense for them to be made one way or the other. People are trying to round-peg-square-hole this into being one of those, but it's just not.

Who the fuck cares what race a fucking mermaid is? Right wingers who could give a shit about minorities and underrepresented people are suddenly talking like they're experts on media representation and trying to save the red heads and it's the most cringy disingenuous shit on earth. And then you've got the other side of people crowing on about his this is a win for a minorities since a poc is a disney princess, as if anyone in the whole goddamn world is going to remember this as anything other than "oh yeah they made a bad little mermaid remake" a couple months after it comes out.

This isn't so much as a win for minorities thing as it is a lol angry white people thing

It's sad that something like this is looked at as a win or a loss for anybody

True
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troll_swag posted...

Jarring to who?

Anyone familiar with the character and who wants them to look like how they looked before? Like I'm a black man, so this has nothing to do with racism, just accuracy.

lolife67 posted...

That's not what you said, though. You claimed they did it "just because they can." That's not true.

I never said anything like this.
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Knowledge_King posted...

But changing skin color should be done with reason IMO. Not just because it can.

@Knowledge_King you didn't say this??

Knowledge_King posted...

troll_swag posted...

Jarring to who?

Anyone familiar with the character and who wants them to look like how they looked before? Like I'm a black man, so this has nothing to do with racism, just accuracy.

lolife67 posted...

That's not what you said, though. You claimed they did it "just because they can." That's not true.

I never said anything like this.

Then you're the only black person "jarred" by this.
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lolife67 posted...

@Knowledge_King you didn't say this??

So you don't understand context? I never said they did it just because they can. I said it shouldn't be done for that reason alone. As the person who i was arguing with said if it doesn't matter, it can just be done easily.

troll_swag posted...

Then you're the only black person "jarred" by this.

I'm not jarred. I just think it's dumb. And if I were a huge fan of Ariel, I'd probably be a little mad.
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Knowledge_King posted...

lolife67 posted...

@Knowledge_King you didn't say this??

So you don't understand context? I never said they did it just because they can. I said it shouldn't be done for that reason alone. As the person who i was arguing with said if it doesn't matter, it can just be done easily.

troll_swag posted...

Then you're the only black person "jarred" by this.

I'm not jarred. I just think it's dumb. And if I were a huge fan of Ariel, I'd probably be a little mad.

If this is what makes people mad, then there are some serious issues they need to deal with.

And there not a little mad, they BIG mad.
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troll_swag posted...

If this is what makes people mad, then there are some serious issues they need to deal with.

Eh not really. Imagine you're a big like...Superman fan. And then in the movie he looks...nothing like Superman. He has a totally different look, skin color, hair color, and hair style. It'd get you a bit mad. It's not the Superman you know or want.
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People are fucking stupid.
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SJWs whining about something they don't like and think they can change things by complaining? Yawn. Who cares.
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Knowledge_King posted...

lolife67 posted...

@Knowledge_King you didn't say this??

So you don't understand context? I never said they did it just because they can. I said it shouldn't be done for that reason alone. As the person who i was arguing with said if it doesn't matter, it can just be done easily.

troll_swag posted...

Then you're the only black person "jarred" by this.

I'm not jarred. I just think it's dumb. And if I were a huge fan of Ariel, I'd probably be a little mad.

I skimmed the topic, but did anyone argue for the bolded part?

from the snippet that someone posted, the director believes that Halle exemplifies the qualities that define Ariel
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Knowledge_King posted...

troll_swag posted...

If this is what makes people mad, then there are some serious issues they need to deal with.

Eh not really. Imagine you're a big like...Superman fan. And then in the movie he looks...nothing like Superman. He has a totally different look, skin color, hair color, and hair style. It'd get you a bit mad. It's not the Superman you know or want.

No. No I wouldnt.

I'd remember that Superman is fictional character. And an alien to boot.

Then I'd understand that the creative designer has decided to try something new. I'd then make a judgment of the work in question after I've seen it in its entirety.

You know what I wouldnt do? Cry about the race of a fictional character. Especially when its not even central the story.
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troll_swag posted...

No. No I wouldnt.

I'd remember that Superman is fictional character. And an alien to boot.

Good for you. I would. Fictional characters look a certain way still. If suddenly my favorite fictional character looked different, I'd be turned off.
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Every ugly pale person getting mad because Halle Bailey is the new Ariel.

Black Jesus is at work
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BlingBling22947 posted...

Every ugly pale person getting mad because Halle Bailey is the new Ariel.

Black Jesus is at work

No, people just dont like iconic characters being changed regardless of what that change is to. And that goes for all iconic characters and all types of visual change. Changing a characters iconic costume to something completely new and different is also an unwanted change.

James Bond and the Doctor from Doctor Who get a pass though since its become an established rule in those series that the actors dont have to adhere to one specific appearance.
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Its not a good choice

boxington posted...

like when Harvey Dent was played by Billy Dee Williams?

This is why I really regret that we didn't get Marlon Wayans as Robin and Billy Dee as Two-Face in the third Batman movie. Had inclusive casting been more common before the internet really took off, we wouldn't be likely having these kinds of discussions now.

Skye Reynolds posted...

Had inclusive casting

But this isn't inclusive casting, it's changing things for the sake of changing things.

Can you name one other Disney animation studios films with a redhead princess? Why is removing one being more inclusive then?
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The_Ivory_Man posted...

Skye Reynolds posted...

Had inclusive casting

But this isn't inclusive casting, it's changing things for the sake of changing things.

Can you name one other Disney animation studios films with a redhead princess? Why is removing one being more inclusive then?

Brave
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Zodd3224 posted...

I didnt see people protesting when in the movie they made Constantine an American with brown hair instead of blonde. Makes you think

You...you cant be serious right? Do you think Constantine was some mainstream, well-known name at the time? This has to be a joke that just went over my head. >_>
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Kelystic posted...

no one complained when sam jackson plays nick fury

Because Ultimate Nick Fury is a thing. He was black in the comics before he was black on-screen. Plus people like SamueL, whereas most people don't even know who this ho is.

Plus I should mention that there were a fuckload of complaints when Ryan Reynolds was cast as Green Lantern on the basis that he was white since a whole generation grew up with the Justice League cartoon which used the John Stewart GL (who, by the way, was *also* in comics long before the cartoon) instead of Hal or Kyle.

And, not for nothing, but John Stewart is the only GL of Earth that I can stand.

Taharqa_ posted...

White people have only had a what, a 70 year run of Disney films depicting white main female characters and princesses for their films until 2009 when the Princess and the Frog came out in 2009? Throughout that time there was no black representation as the main leads until Princess and the Frog. Having a black lead for Little Mermaid is not flipping everything around for a melanated takeover of everything Disney, chill your tits.

Which comes back to this:
It's hilarious to see people bitching about black people not being overrepresented in the media of a company that was almost exclusively white. That's like complaining about Spike Lee not doing any films with white protagonists. He doesn't owe it to the world to do white films because he's been focusing on black films any more than Disney owes black representation for having focused on whites. And pandering by racial recasting is probably one of the worst ways to build representation.

White media is under no obligation to portray black characters any more than black media is under obligation to portray white characters. Or are you the kind of guy who also complains about BET not having enough white representation?

Doom_Art posted...

Ariel's skin color has never been relevant. I don't see why it's an issue now.

It's always been relevant.

DarkRoast posted...

She has red hair. Who cares what hey skin color is?

Ariel's defining feature is red hair. That's all that matters.

I doubt we're going to get proper red hair, among other issues.
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Imagine being a grown man and caring one way or the other about a teenage girl's race in a movie you're not even going to go see.
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Kastrada posted...

The_Ivory_Man posted...

Skye Reynolds posted...

Had inclusive casting

But this isn't inclusive casting, it's changing things for the sake of changing things.

Can you name one other Disney animation studios films with a redhead princess? Why is removing one being more inclusive then?

Brave

That was Pixar.

That's not a Disney Animation Studios film.
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Zeus posted...

Doom_Art posted...

Ariel's skin color has never been relevant. I don't see why it's an issue now.

It's always been relevant.

How has it been relevant, exactly? How does it play into the story?

Zeus posted...

I doubt we're going to get proper red hair, among other issues.

There are pics of her with red hair, so...

I love how mad this has the "Hollywood is under no obligation to have minority representation. they're about making money" crowd

Ariel is black and there isn't shit you can do about it lmao
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lolife67 posted...

Zeus posted...

Doom_Art posted...

Ariel's skin color has never been relevant. I don't see why it's an issue now.

It's always been relevant.

How has it been relevant, exactly? How does it play into the story?

Zeus posted...

I doubt we're going to get proper red hair, among other issues.

There are pics of her with red hair, so...

Its relevant because that is what she looks like in the cartoon. Nothing more needs to be said.
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*#OscarsSoWhite becomes a thing"

"They should make their own movies and stop complaining about not being cast in Oscar type movies!"

*black panther is made, rumors of oscar nominations swirl*

Wahhh! That movie wasn't even good! it's only popular because it's a black movie

*starfire, Mary Jane and ariel recieve backlash when cast as black women, despite those characters ethnicities being irrelevant*

*Jordan Peele Makes Get out and Us, to massive success/critical acclaim*

Wahh! Jordan Peele is racist because he acknowledges that we are under no obligation to cast people of color, so that's he'll be focusing on having in his future projects!"

We can make movies, they just cant be too popular, or else its pandering. We are also not allowed to play any white characters, regardless of how little their race has to do with it. Just admit you hate us and go
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FrisbeeDude posted...

I love how mad this has the "Hollywood is under no obligation to have minority representation. they're about making money" crowd

Ariel is black and there isn't shit you can do about it lmao

They're big mad LOL
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Taharqa_ posted...

FrisbeeDude posted...

I love how mad this has the "Hollywood is under no obligation to have minority representation. they're about making money" crowd

Ariel is black and there isn't shit you can do about it lmao

They're big mad LOL

Fans forced Sonic the Hedgehog to be changed.
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Fans forced Sonic the Hedgehog to be changed.

Do you think the sutuation is the same?
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Simon_Petrikov posted...

Fans forced Sonic the Hedgehog to be changed.

Do you think the sutuation is the same?

Change is change. Neither looks like they used to. In different ways, yes; but even so. Fans were not happy that they changed Sonic from his original look, and now fans arent happy that they changed Ariel from her original look.

You see people who hate black people.

I see people who hate change.
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there are plenty of fans that favor the casting, though.
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If I were Russia, this is exactly the type of thing I would engineer

P easy to do as well

DarkRoast posted...

She has red hair. Who cares what hey skin color is?

Ariel's defining feature is red hair. That's all that matters.

No. Ariel's defining feature is her voice. It's literally the mcguffin of the movie.

Why would it be her hair? Do you recall anytime it's brought up in the story? Eric didn't even notice the hair color change of his "dream girl", but instantly recognized the voice.
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