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darkphoenix181
07/03/19 10:16:45 AM
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Fox is the only one reporting this.

Enjoy:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/immigration-border-facility-aoc-hispanic

Rev. Samuel Rodriguez was "full of indignation" when he saw the reports and heard from politicians about the deplorable and inhumane conditions for illegal immigrants at an El Paso County, Texas migrant detention center. But what he saw at the same facility toured by Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y. with a group of pastors was "drastically different."

The president of the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference, the world's largest Hispanic Christian organization, and senior pastor of New Seasons Christian Worship Center in Sacramento shared his firsthand experience touring a migrant detention center during a press briefing Monday.

"I read the reports, saw the news clips. I just wanted to see what was actually happening in order to better enable our efforts to find a fair and a just solution to our broken immigration system," Rodriguez, who has advised President Trump and both Presidents Barack Obama and George W. Bush on immigration reform, noted. To my surprise, I saw something drastically different from the stories Ive been hearing in our national discourse. Even as a veteran of immigration advocacy in the U.S., I was shocked at the misinformation of the crisis at the border."

"We found no soiled diapers, no deplorable conditions and no lack of basic necessities, Rodriguez remarked, adding he specifically asked border agents if they staged the facility in response to the negative press. They unequivocally denied it we were witnessing the identical conditions the attorneys saw when they toured the facility days earlier."

In fact, some told him the sources from whom the negative coverage originated never toured the areas of the facility that we toured and speculated they might have had political motivations.

The pastors left encouraged by the commitment and dedication of Americas Border Patrol and immigration officers, many of which are Latinos, by the way. He said one emotional Border Patrol agent turned to him and said, referring to the vilification: Pastor Sam, what theyre saying about us is completely false. We care about these kids and have a passion for our calling.

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Kolibri X
07/03/19 10:19:15 AM
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B-but muh concentration camps
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Hanky_Bannister
07/03/19 10:19:28 AM
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they are state run media at this point

truly pathetic to believe anything they put out
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JE19426
07/03/19 10:19:36 AM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
They unequivocally denied it we were witnessing the identical conditions the attorneys saw when they toured the facility days earlier."

In fact, some told him the sources from whom the negative coverage originated never toured the areas of the facility that we toured and speculated they might have had political motivations.


No wonder, nobody else reported it.
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Silver Bearings
07/03/19 10:25:22 AM
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So what does the rational person believe? It is probably somewhere in the middle. There is no reason to believe politicians or FoxNews without question. Let's all go tour the place ourselves!!!
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CyricZ
07/03/19 10:28:16 AM
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Silver Bearings posted...
So what does the rational person believe? It is probably somewhere in the middle.

Exactly half of the people are being treated inhumanely.

All hail centrism!
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Silver Bearings
07/03/19 10:29:37 AM
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CyricZ posted...
Silver Bearings posted...
So what does the rational person believe? It is probably somewhere in the middle.

Exactly half of the people are being treated inhumanely.

All hail centrism!

This isn't what I meant and you are well aware of that. But I did get a solid chuckle.
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Bloodychess
07/03/19 10:36:52 AM
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Silver Bearings posted...
So what does the rational person believe? It is probably somewhere in the middle.


I don't believe we're going to get any honest reporting over this. This should have been an issue in 2014, but then Obama would be under fire and that's a no no. Now it's just some planned photo-op's with politically driven media outlets going "See, it's horrible!" or "It's fine over here"
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TalesofMedz
07/03/19 10:38:26 AM
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StucklnMyPants
07/03/19 10:38:54 AM
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I love the new fad of leftists getting mad at centrists for trying to be rational and reasonable, and wanting to know all the facts. Just another reason why Trump is going to win 2020.
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Bio1590
07/03/19 10:46:06 AM
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So they're claiming the report released yesterday by the Office of the Inspector General is bullshit?

looooooooooooooooool
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DarkRoast
07/03/19 10:51:59 AM
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Remember when Sean Hannity stated he was going to a Trump rally as a reporter, then got up on stage and praised him?
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TalesofMedz
07/03/19 10:53:00 AM
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DarkRoast posted...
Remember when Sean Hannity stated he was going to a Trump rally as a reporter, then got up on stage and praised him?

s word head sean hannity
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darkphoenix181
07/03/19 11:12:02 AM
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TalesofMedz posted...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/videos/hispanic-pastors-tour-border-facility-say-they-are-shocked-by-misinformation/vi-AADN0L4


Why is MSN linking to Fox News video?
The Fox logo even shows up!

This is not sarcasm but actual surprise.
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TalesofMedz
07/03/19 11:13:59 AM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
TalesofMedz posted...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/videos/hispanic-pastors-tour-border-facility-say-they-are-shocked-by-misinformation/vi-AADN0L4


Why is MSN linking to Fox News video?
The Fox logo even shows up!

This is not sarcasm but actual surprise.

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BobanMarjanovic
07/03/19 11:15:59 AM
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StucklnMyPants posted...
I love the new fad of leftists getting mad at centrists for trying to be rational and reasonable, and wanting to know all the facts. Just another reason why Trump is going to win 2020.


Post of the year
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Hornezz
07/03/19 11:20:58 AM
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This is what "no deplorable conditions" looks like.

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Polycosm
07/03/19 11:21:52 AM
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Link to the full report: https://www.oig.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/assets/2019-07/OIG-19-51-Jul19_.pdf
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CyricZ
07/03/19 11:30:44 AM
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StucklnMyPants posted...
I love the new fad of leftists getting mad at centrists for trying to be rational and reasonable, and wanting to know all the facts. Just another reason why Trump is going to win 2020.


Q: How do you tell when someone's a centrist?
A: Don't worry. They'll tell you.
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gunplagirl
07/03/19 11:32:36 AM
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CyricZ posted...
Silver Bearings posted...
So what does the rational person believe? It is probably somewhere in the middle.

Exactly half of the people are being treated inhumanely.

All hail centrism!

lmao I hate that this is unironically how some people are
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Thompson
07/03/19 11:37:25 AM
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CyricZ posted...
Silver Bearings posted...
So what does the rational person believe? It is probably somewhere in the middle.

Exactly half of the people are being treated inhumanely.

All hail centrism!

Akshoolly, it's true centrism if only their right or left side is horribly mistreated while their opposing side remains perfectly unharmed.
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Broseph_Stalin
07/03/19 11:42:57 AM
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well, on one hand, you have photo evidence showing deplorable conditions. but on the other, you have this one guy who asked border patrol if it was staged and they said nah.
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darkjedilink
07/03/19 1:43:43 PM
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Polycosm posted...
Link to the full report: https://www.oig.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/assets/2019-07/OIG-19-51-Jul19_.pdf

Nothing in there about people drinking out of toilets.
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CyricZ
07/03/19 1:45:43 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
Polycosm posted...
Link to the full report: https://www.oig.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/assets/2019-07/OIG-19-51-Jul19_.pdf

Nothing in there about people drinking out of toilets.

Yeah you've got us there.

Just an "an immediate risk to the health and safety of DHS agents and officers, and to those detained".

Y'know, nothing big.
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darkjedilink
07/03/19 1:47:06 PM
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CyricZ posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Polycosm posted...
Link to the full report: https://www.oig.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/assets/2019-07/OIG-19-51-Jul19_.pdf

Nothing in there about people drinking out of toilets.

Yeah you've got us there.

Just an "an immediate risk to the health and safety of DHS agents and officers, and to those detained".

Y'know, nothing big.

Caused by overcrowding, not the whole ICE forcing people to drink toilet water.
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darkphoenix181
07/03/19 1:55:50 PM
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Kolibri X posted...
B-but muh concentration camps


Silver Bearings posted...
So what does the rational person believe? It is probably somewhere in the middle. There is no reason to believe politicians or FoxNews without question. Let's all go tour the place ourselves!!!


Just so you guys know, the article is propaganda.
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CyricZ
07/03/19 2:11:08 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
Caused by overcrowding, not the whole ICE forcing people to drink toilet water.

Yes sir.

Reach your hardest for that one fucking inch.

Any fucking inch.
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Bio1590
07/03/19 2:17:58 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
Polycosm posted...
Link to the full report: https://www.oig.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/assets/2019-07/OIG-19-51-Jul19_.pdf

Nothing in there about people drinking out of toilets.

And what about the rest

Yenno like how it actually says people actually aren't being fed properly, aren't getting clean clothes, and aren't being able to shower...which is what we've been told over and over and over again is happening.
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TheOlJollyRoger
07/03/19 2:22:14 PM
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You remember when I was arrested at the Dallas Fort Worth airport and taken to tarrant county jail? I was put in a holding cell clearly marked max occupancy for 15 and they had 37 of us in there. Both toilets were completely broken. I was in there was 33 hours
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darkphoenix181
07/03/19 2:23:20 PM
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TheOlJollyRoger posted...
You remember when I was arrested at the Dallas Fort Worth airport and taken to tarrant county jail? I was put in a holding cell clearly marked max occupancy for 15 and they had 37 of us in there. Both toilets were completely broken. I was in there was 33 hours


Did you poop?
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darkjedilink
07/03/19 2:34:21 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Polycosm posted...
Link to the full report: https://www.oig.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/assets/2019-07/OIG-19-51-Jul19_.pdf

Nothing in there about people drinking out of toilets.

And what about the rest

Yenno like how it actually says people actually aren't being fed properly, aren't getting clean clothes, and aren't being able to shower...which is what we've been told over and over and over again is happening.

It sounds like the Dems should have funded our border protection, instead of calling it racist and suggesting our problem with mass immigration was a 'manufactured crisis' for two years.

This is ENTIRELY due to a lack of funding for border security, and nothing more.
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Bio1590
07/03/19 2:35:46 PM
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Spin spin spin spin spin spin spin spin spin
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Antifar
07/03/19 2:38:05 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
Bio1590 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Polycosm posted...
Link to the full report: https://www.oig.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/assets/2019-07/OIG-19-51-Jul19_.pdf

Nothing in there about people drinking out of toilets.

And what about the rest

Yenno like how it actually says people actually aren't being fed properly, aren't getting clean clothes, and aren't being able to shower...which is what we've been told over and over and over again is happening.

It sounds like the Dems should have funded our border protection, instead of calling it racist and suggesting our problem with mass immigration was a 'manufactured crisis' for two years.

This is ENTIRELY due to a lack of funding for border security, and nothing more.

It's not a funding issue; putting these people in a motel would be cheaper than what we're doing currently. And there's no reason to believe funds given to the Trump administration will be used to provide better conditions, as opposed to stricter treatment.
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CyricZ
07/03/19 2:39:23 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
It sounds like the Dems should have funded our border protection, instead of calling it racist and suggesting our problem with mass immigration was a 'manufactured crisis' for two years.

Theeeere it is, the next deflection.

"Dems didn't give us the carte blanche money we wanted! They wanted to set rules about how we spent the money! It's basically all their fault we don't have money approved for the wall and concentration camps!"
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darkjedilink
07/03/19 2:40:42 PM
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Antifar posted...
It's not a funding issue; putting these people in a motel would be cheaper than what we're doing currently

Not in the least. maintenance, legal issues, and security costs would increase exponentially.

And there's no reason to believe funds given to the Trump administration will be used to provide better conditions, as opposed to stricter treatment.

And this is a better alternative?
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UnfairRepresent
07/03/19 2:42:43 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
Christian organization

Ahhh

That's why they don't care
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Bossdog421
07/03/19 2:44:45 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
Bio1590 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Polycosm posted...
Link to the full report: https://www.oig.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/assets/2019-07/OIG-19-51-Jul19_.pdf

Nothing in there about people drinking out of toilets.

And what about the rest

Yenno like how it actually says people actually aren't being fed properly, aren't getting clean clothes, and aren't being able to shower...which is what we've been told over and over and over again is happening.

It sounds like the Dems should have funded our border protection, instead of calling it racist and suggesting our problem with mass immigration was a 'manufactured crisis' for two years.

This is ENTIRELY due to a lack of funding for border security, and nothing more.


^This

Like i said another thread google border patrol overwhelmed and set the date to only include 2015 and prior. Identical pictures and articles, it's just like reading what you read from the past months news.

This has been a problem for years. All we do is build more facilities and make them bigger instead of actually fix the problem that is causing it.
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Bishop9800
07/03/19 2:46:37 PM
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DJL is still trying to spin this?

Really?
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UnfairRepresent
07/03/19 2:47:17 PM
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Bossdog421 posted...

This has been a problem for years. All we do is build more facilities and make them bigger instead of actually fix the problem that is causing it.

Legalize drugs and make immigration a lot easier?
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Tyranthraxus
07/03/19 2:49:40 PM
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Hey guys apparently if you tour Pyongyang everything is pretty cool and the people look happy and there's plenty of food and beautiful landmarks to see. The misinformation about North Korea is appalling /s
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EliteC
07/03/19 2:51:44 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
Fox is the only one reporting this.

Enjoy:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/immigration-border-facility-aoc-hispanic

Rev. Samuel Rodriguez was "full of indignation" when he saw the reports and heard from politicians about the deplorable and inhumane conditions for illegal immigrants at an El Paso County, Texas migrant detention center. But what he saw at the same facility toured by Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y. with a group of pastors was "drastically different."

The president of the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference, the world's largest Hispanic Christian organization, and senior pastor of New Seasons Christian Worship Center in Sacramento shared his firsthand experience touring a migrant detention center during a press briefing Monday.

"I read the reports, saw the news clips. I just wanted to see what was actually happening in order to better enable our efforts to find a fair and a just solution to our broken immigration system," Rodriguez, who has advised President Trump and both Presidents Barack Obama and George W. Bush on immigration reform, noted. To my surprise, I saw something drastically different from the stories Ive been hearing in our national discourse. Even as a veteran of immigration advocacy in the U.S., I was shocked at the misinformation of the crisis at the border."

"We found no soiled diapers, no deplorable conditions and no lack of basic necessities, Rodriguez remarked, adding he specifically asked border agents if they staged the facility in response to the negative press. They unequivocally denied it we were witnessing the identical conditions the attorneys saw when they toured the facility days earlier."

In fact, some told him the sources from whom the negative coverage originated never toured the areas of the facility that we toured and speculated they might have had political motivations.

The pastors left encouraged by the commitment and dedication of Americas Border Patrol and immigration officers, many of which are Latinos, by the way. He said one emotional Border Patrol agent turned to him and said, referring to the vilification: Pastor Sam, what theyre saying about us is completely false. We care about these kids and have a passion for our calling.


https://www.oig.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/assets/2019-07/OIG-19-51-Jul19_.pdf

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EliteC
07/03/19 2:51:58 PM
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Kolibri X posted...
B-but muh concentration camps


Lies: https://www.oig.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/assets/2019-07/OIG-19-51-Jul19_.pdf
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Bossdog421
07/03/19 3:05:40 PM
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EliteC posted...
Kolibri X posted...
B-but muh concentration camps


Lies: https://www.oig.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/assets/2019-07/OIG-19-51-Jul19_.pdf


Actually read pages 12-14 of that of that instead of just looking at the pictures.
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EliteC
07/03/19 3:06:17 PM
#46:


Bossdog421 posted...
EliteC posted...
Kolibri X posted...
B-but muh concentration camps


Lies: https://www.oig.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/assets/2019-07/OIG-19-51-Jul19_.pdf


Actually read pages 12-14 of that of that instead of just looking at the pictures.


I did
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Bossdog421
07/03/19 7:27:26 PM
#47:


EliteC posted...
Bossdog421 posted...
EliteC posted...
Kolibri X posted...
B-but muh concentration camps


Lies: https://www.oig.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/assets/2019-07/OIG-19-51-Jul19_.pdf


Actually read pages 12-14 of that of that instead of just looking at the pictures.


I did


Then you'd know it's not lies at all. They are over crowded and well beyond normal capacity but all and all they are keeping up with shit best they can. Could it be better? Yes, but for that they needed congress to step up with money for aid, which was just passed recently. It takes time and money to get more employees and space. Besides that the problem won't stop until the actual laws regarding illegal immigration changed and the core problem of mass amounts of people coming over illegally is fixed. It's the exact reason this was the same problem 4 years ago.

Maybe this would go over a bit smoother if dems didnt organize protests and walkouts for companies making the beds for the centers... then complain about kids sleeping on the floor. Look up the wayfair walkout.
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darkjedilink
07/03/19 7:42:36 PM
#48:


EliteC posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
Fox is the only one reporting this.

Enjoy:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/immigration-border-facility-aoc-hispanic

Rev. Samuel Rodriguez was "full of indignation" when he saw the reports and heard from politicians about the deplorable and inhumane conditions for illegal immigrants at an El Paso County, Texas migrant detention center. But what he saw at the same facility toured by Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y. with a group of pastors was "drastically different."

The president of the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference, the world's largest Hispanic Christian organization, and senior pastor of New Seasons Christian Worship Center in Sacramento shared his firsthand experience touring a migrant detention center during a press briefing Monday.

"I read the reports, saw the news clips. I just wanted to see what was actually happening in order to better enable our efforts to find a fair and a just solution to our broken immigration system," Rodriguez, who has advised President Trump and both Presidents Barack Obama and George W. Bush on immigration reform, noted. To my surprise, I saw something drastically different from the stories Ive been hearing in our national discourse. Even as a veteran of immigration advocacy in the U.S., I was shocked at the misinformation of the crisis at the border."

"We found no soiled diapers, no deplorable conditions and no lack of basic necessities, Rodriguez remarked, adding he specifically asked border agents if they staged the facility in response to the negative press. They unequivocally denied it we were witnessing the identical conditions the attorneys saw when they toured the facility days earlier."

In fact, some told him the sources from whom the negative coverage originated never toured the areas of the facility that we toured and speculated they might have had political motivations.

The pastors left encouraged by the commitment and dedication of Americas Border Patrol and immigration officers, many of which are Latinos, by the way. He said one emotional Border Patrol agent turned to him and said, referring to the vilification: Pastor Sam, what theyre saying about us is completely false. We care about these kids and have a passion for our calling.


https://www.oig.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/assets/2019-07/OIG-19-51-Jul19_.pdf

Lies

Ctrl+F - 'diapers'
Ctrl+F - 'toilet water'
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hockeybub89
07/03/19 7:58:34 PM
#49:


So are all the usual suspects going to be skeptical of this like they are of AOC? Or are they going to take this piece as gospel?
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darkphoenix181
07/03/19 7:59:45 PM
#50:


hockeybub89 posted...
So are all the usual suspects going to be skeptical of this like they are of AOC? Or are they going to take this piece as gospel?


who do you refer to?
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ButteryMales
07/03/19 8:04:30 PM
#51:


darkphoenix181 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
So are all the usual suspects going to be skeptical of this like they are of AOC? Or are they going to take this piece as gospel?


who do you refer to?

The usual suspects.
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darkjedilink
07/03/19 8:12:32 PM
#52:


hockeybub89 posted...
So are all the usual suspects going to be skeptical of this like they are of AOC? Or are they going to take this piece as gospel?

Considering the IG report mentioned none of AOC's outlandish claims, why shouldn't we be skeptical?
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