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DeadBankerDream 07/01/19 3:47:02 PM #154:	I bet the Zodiac Killer was pro electoral college. --- "Your mother was a broken down tub of junk with more gentlemen callers than the operator." <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:924105762] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote>I bet the Zodiac Killer was pro electoral college.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 07/01/19 3:48:18 PM #155:	@CarrieChan posted... Gives an incentive for a prospective president to actually give a shit about rural regions instead of saying "Fuck em, all I need is California." The prospective presidents don't visit rural areas though. They just visit a small handful of swing states --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:924105827] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote><cite>@CarrieChan posted...</cite> <quote>Gives an incentive for a prospective president to actually give a shit about rural regions instead of saying "Fuck em, all I need is California."</quote> The prospective presidents don't visit rural areas though. They just visit a small handful of swing states</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 07/01/19 3:49:18 PM #156:	CarrieChan posted... Gives an incentive for a prospective president to actually give a shit about rural regions instead of saying "Fuck em, all I need is California." California is only 12% of the US population. You aren't winning off of 12%. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:924105866] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote><cite>CarrieChan posted...</cite> <quote>Gives an incentive for a prospective president to actually give a shit about rural regions instead of saying "Fuck em, all I need is California."</quote> California is only 12% of the US population. You aren't winning off of 12%.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prestoff 07/01/19 3:55:41 PM #157:	BENGHAZl posted... I wonder why Ive never seen anyone defending the EC say we cant let Texas decide the election, even though it has a higher population than New York Because they have no argument. They somehow think that CA and NY is more than 50% of the population lol. --- It's what all true warriors strive for! Switch FC: SW-0575-4758-7878 <cite>Prestoff posted [p:924106166] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote><cite>BENGHAZl posted...</cite> <quote>I wonder why Ive never seen anyone defending the EC say we cant let Texas decide the election, even though it has a higher population than New York </quote> Because they have no argument. They somehow think that CA and NY is more than 50% of the population lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 07/01/19 3:58:09 PM #158:	Prestoff posted... BENGHAZl posted... I wonder why Ive never seen anyone defending the EC say we cant let Texas decide the election, even though it has a higher population than New York Because they have no argument. They somehow think that CA and NY is more than 50% of the population lol. Let's be real tho. States wouldn't be represented by a popular vote system anyways. Anyone who claims any selection of states would suddenly have more power in a popular vote system does not understand what a popular vote is. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:924106272] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote><cite>Prestoff posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BENGHAZl posted...</cite> <quote>I wonder why Ive never seen anyone defending the EC say we cant let Texas decide the election, even though it has a higher population than New York </quote> Because they have no argument. They somehow think that CA and NY is more than 50% of the population lol.</quote> Let's be real tho. States wouldn't be represented by a popular vote system anyways. Anyone who claims any selection of states would suddenly have more power in a popular vote system does not understand what a popular vote is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 07/01/19 3:58:12 PM #159:	Phantom36 posted... Definitely for. Go just by popular vote, sounds logical in theory. But then only the most densely populated areas decide the election with their political beliefs. Why bother to campaign anywhere other than New York and California? I have conservative relatives who live in a NY town with a population of 1,000 people. These states are not monolithic, and nor are they a majority of the population. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:924106278] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote><cite>Phantom36 posted...</cite> <quote>Definitely for. Go just by popular vote, sounds logical in theory. But then only the most densely populated areas decide the election with their political beliefs. Why bother to campaign anywhere other than New York and California?</quote> I have conservative relatives who live in a NY town with a population of 1,000 people. These states are not monolithic, and nor are they a majority of the population.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Spiret 07/01/19 4:01:26 PM #160:	large cities would basically dictate everything and ways of life in a large city is quite a bit different from rural or even the suburbs. neither system is perfect, but otherwise the 51% can "rule" over the 49%. <cite>Dark_Spiret posted [p:924106421] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote>large cities would basically dictate everything and ways of life in a large city is quite a bit different from rural or even the suburbs. neither system is perfect, but otherwise the 51% can "rule" over the 49%.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 07/01/19 4:02:58 PM #161:	Dark_Spiret posted... large cities would basically dictate everything and ways of life in a large city is quite a bit different from rural or even the suburbs. neither system is perfect, but otherwise the 51% can rule over the 49%. The president doesn't have unlimited power and there's still congress and an entire branch of government (senate) dedicated to giving smaller states more power. There's no reason the president also needs to be elected by smaller states having more power. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:924106486] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dark_Spiret posted...</cite> <quote>large cities would basically dictate everything and ways of life in a large city is quite a bit different from rural or even the suburbs. neither system is perfect, but otherwise the 51% can rule over the 49%.</quote> The president doesn't have unlimited power and there's still congress and an entire branch of government (senate) dedicated to giving smaller states more power. There's no reason the president also needs to be elected by smaller states having more power.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 07/01/19 4:04:00 PM #162:	Dark_Spiret posted... large cities would basically dictate everything and ways of life in a large city is quite a bit different from rural or even the suburbs. neither system is perfect, but otherwise the 51% can "rule" over the 49%. As opposed to the current administration where 45% rules over the 55% --- "Your mother was a broken down tub of junk with more gentlemen callers than the operator." <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:924106536] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dark_Spiret posted...</cite> <quote>large cities would basically dictate everything and ways of life in a large city is quite a bit different from rural or even the suburbs. neither system is perfect, but otherwise the 51% can "rule" over the 49%.</quote> As opposed to the current administration where 45% rules over the 55%</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
X8Azazel8X 07/01/19 4:06:48 PM #163:	Dark_Spiret posted... large cities would basically dictate everything and ways of life in a large city is quite a bit different from rural or even the suburbs. neither system is perfect, but otherwise the 51% can "rule" over the 49%. Yea I have gone back and forth on this, but it seems like the system is being abused to give republicans the advantage now especially when there are long wining streaks of democrats being in office. The real fix to the college is removing jery mandering I believe, and then allowing the system to work the way it should have to begin with and balance would be more restored. --- No matter how gaudy you make your appearance...it is only a facade.. Obama Elected Hopes Rise..Fears Shatter\| Drump: HACKED POTUS <cite>X8Azazel8X posted [p:924106653] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dark_Spiret posted...</cite> <quote>large cities would basically dictate everything and ways of life in a large city is quite a bit different from rural or even the suburbs. neither system is perfect, but otherwise the 51% can "rule" over the 49%.</quote> Yea I have gone back and forth on this, but it seems like the system is being abused to give republicans the advantage now especially when there are long wining streaks of democrats being in office. The real fix to the college is removing jery mandering I believe, and then allowing the system to work the way it should have to begin with and balance would be more restored.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 07/01/19 4:11:24 PM #164:	Dark_Spiret posted... large cities would basically dictate everything and ways of life in a large city is quite a bit different from rural or even the suburbs. neither system is perfect, but otherwise the 51% can "rule" over the 49%. Why do you prefer the 49 percent being able to rule over the 51 percent? --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:924106846] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dark_Spiret posted...</cite> <quote>large cities would basically dictate everything and ways of life in a large city is quite a bit different from rural or even the suburbs. neither system is perfect, but otherwise the 51% can "rule" over the 49%.</quote> Why do you prefer the 49 percent being able to rule over the 51 percent?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 07/01/19 4:11:59 PM #165:	X8Azazel8X posted... The real fix to the college is removing jery mandering I believe, Gerrymandering has nothing to do with the EC, which is based on state lines. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:924106874] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote><cite>X8Azazel8X posted...</cite> <quote>The real fix to the college is removing jery mandering I believe, </quote> Gerrymandering has nothing to do with the EC, which is based on state lines.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
X8Azazel8X 07/01/19 4:49:24 PM #166:	Antifar posted... X8Azazel8X posted... The real fix to the college is removing jery mandering I believe, Gerrymandering has nothing to do with the EC, which is based on state lines. https://www.thenation.com/article/three-strategies-block-gerrymandering-electoral-college/ As Republican National Committee chairman Reince Priebus promotes one of the most blatant assaults on democracy in modern timesa scheme to gerrymander the Electoral College so that the loser of the popular vote could win key states and the presidencythe number-one question from frustrated citizens is: What can we do about it? Priebus is counting on precisely that cynicism, as well as the neglect of the story by major media, to enable the plan to have Republican legislatures and governors in key swing statesFlorida, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsinarrange for the distribution of electoral votes not to winners of the popular vote statewide but to the winners of individual congressional districts. Because of the gerrymandering of congressional district lines, the scheme would in 2012 have shifted the circumstance so that, in Pennsylvania for instance, the losing candidate, Republican Mitt Romney, would have won the overwhelming majority of the states electoral votes. Under at least one scenario entertained by Priebus and his minions, Romneys 5 millionvote loss of the popular vote nationally still would not have prevented him from assuming the presidency. The courts have criticized gerrymandering, and even suggested that there may be instances where it is unconstitutional. But they have been shamefully lax in their approach to the issueat least in part out of deference to the authority extended to individual states when it comes to drawing district lines. But when gerrymandering threatens the integrity of national elections and the governing of the country, this opens a new avenue for challenging what remains the most common tool for rigging elections. It is time for state attorneys general who have track records of supporting democracy initiatives, such as New Yorks Eric Schneiderman, and state elections officials, such as Minnesotas Mark Ritchie, to start looking at legal strategies to challenging the Priebus plan in particular and gerrymandering as it influences national elections. This really is an assault on the one-person, one-vote premise of the American experiment. And retired Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens, among others, is advocating for a renewed push on behalf of fair elections. Justice Stevens is right. That partisanship has moved from gerrymandering the state lines and US House lines to gerrymandering the presidential vote. The moment is ripe for a constitutional intervention. Gerrymandering of the key states lines allows them to swing the election using the electoral college.. --- No matter how gaudy you make your appearance...it is only a facade.. Obama Elected Hopes Rise..Fears Shatter\| Drump: HACKED POTUS <cite>X8Azazel8X posted [p:924108509] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>X8Azazel8X posted...</cite> <quote>The real fix to the college is removing jery mandering I believe, </quote> Gerrymandering has nothing to do with the EC, which is based on state lines.</quote> https://www.thenation.com/article/three-strategies-block-gerrymandering-electoral-college/ As Republican National Committee chairman Reince Priebus promotes one of the most blatant assaults on democracy in modern timesa scheme to gerrymander the Electoral College so that the loser of the popular vote could win key states and the presidencythe number-one question from frustrated citizens is: What can we do about it? Priebus is counting on precisely that cynicism, as well as the neglect of the story by major media, to enable the plan to have Republican legislatures and governors in key swing statesFlorida, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsinarrange for the distribution of electoral votes not to winners of the popular vote statewide but to the winners of individual congressional districts. Because of the gerrymandering of congressional district lines, the scheme would in 2012 have shifted the circumstance so that, in Pennsylvania for instance, the losing candidate, Republican Mitt Romney, would have won the overwhelming majority of the states electoral votes. Under at least one scenario entertained by Priebus and his minions, Romneys 5 millionvote loss of the popular vote nationally still would not have prevented him from assuming the presidency. The courts have criticized gerrymandering, and even suggested that there may be instances where it is unconstitutional. But they have been shamefully lax in their approach to the issueat least in part out of deference to the authority extended to individual states when it comes to drawing district lines. But when gerrymandering threatens the integrity of national elections and the governing of the country, this opens a new avenue for challenging what remains the most common tool for rigging elections. It is time for state attorneys general who have track records of supporting democracy initiatives, such as New Yorks Eric Schneiderman, and state elections officials, such as Minnesotas Mark Ritchie, to start looking at legal strategies to challenging the Priebus plan in particular and gerrymandering as it influences national elections. This really is an assault on the one-person, one-vote premise of the American experiment. And retired Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens, among others, is advocating for a renewed push on behalf of fair elections. Justice Stevens is right. That partisanship has moved from gerrymandering the state lines and US House lines to gerrymandering the presidential vote. The moment is ripe for a constitutional intervention. Gerrymandering of the key states lines allows them to swing the election using the electoral college..</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution998 07/01/19 4:51:09 PM #167:	Using bold for 6 paragraphs is like highlighting an entire page in a textbook --- https://youtu.be/U06jlgpMtQs <cite>Caution998 posted [p:924108584] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote>Using bold for 6 paragraphs is like highlighting an entire page in a textbook</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mooreandrew58 07/01/19 4:57:31 PM #168:	Its not perfect but its better than letting 3 cities decide every election. My state would have like zero relevance in an election without it. --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>mooreandrew58 posted [p:924108847] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote>Its not perfect but its better than letting 3 cities decide every election. My state would have like zero relevance in an election without it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mooreandrew58 07/01/19 5:04:50 PM #170:	Hairistotle posted... mooreandrew58 posted... Its not perfect but its better than letting 3 cities decide every election. My state would have like zero relevance in an election without it. how many people are gonna post the same nonsense Its true and you cant really deny it. Majority of the countrys population is in major cities. Rural areas would have zero say in anything. My state has cities sure but their population is a mere fraction of what NYC or LA has. Biggest city in my state based on what I just looked up doesnt even break a million where as NYC has over 8 million It takes my entire state to go over just what that one city has. Stuff like this is why I prefer states having more power to govern themselves cause what we want down here isnt necessarily the same stuff a new yorker wants --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>mooreandrew58 posted [p:924109197] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hairistotle posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote>Its not perfect but its better than letting 3 cities decide every election. My state would have like zero relevance in an election without it.</quote> how many people are gonna post the same nonsense</quote> Its true and you cant really deny it. Majority of the countrys population is in major cities. Rural areas would have zero say in anything. My state has cities sure but their population is a mere fraction of what NYC or LA has. Biggest city in my state based on what I just looked up doesnt even break a million where as NYC has over 8 million It takes my entire state to go over just what that one city has. Stuff like this is why I prefer states having more power to govern themselves cause what we want down here isnt necessarily the same stuff a new yorker wants</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 07/01/19 5:05:28 PM #171:	mooreandrew58 posted... Hairistotle posted... mooreandrew58 posted... Its not perfect but its better than letting 3 cities decide every election. My state would have like zero relevance in an election without it. how many people are gonna post the same nonsense Its true and you cant really deny it. Majority of the countrys population is in major cities. Rural areas would have zero say in anything. My state has cities sure but their population is a mere fraction of what NYC or LA has. Biggest city in my state based on what I just looked up doesnt even break a million where as NYC has over 8 million I guess you forget the Senate exists and that the president's actual powers are fairly limited without congress. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:924109221] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote><cite>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hairistotle posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote>Its not perfect but its better than letting 3 cities decide every election. My state would have like zero relevance in an election without it.</quote> how many people are gonna post the same nonsense</quote> Its true and you cant really deny it. Majority of the countrys population is in major cities. Rural areas would have zero say in anything. My state has cities sure but their population is a mere fraction of what NYC or LA has. Biggest city in my state based on what I just looked up doesnt even break a million where as NYC has over 8 million</quote> I guess you forget the Senate exists and that the president's actual powers are fairly limited without congress.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mooreandrew58 07/01/19 5:09:20 PM #172:	Tmaster148 posted... mooreandrew58 posted... Hairistotle posted... mooreandrew58 posted... Its not perfect but its better than letting 3 cities decide every election. My state would have like zero relevance in an election without it. how many people are gonna post the same nonsense Its true and you cant really deny it. Majority of the countrys population is in major cities. Rural areas would have zero say in anything. My state has cities sure but their population is a mere fraction of what NYC or LA has. Biggest city in my state based on what I just looked up doesnt even break a million where as NYC has over 8 million I guess you forget the Senate exists and that the president's actual powers are fairly limited without congress. And people bitch about every state getting 2 of those also. Not saying you but ive seen it. And the president still holds more power than any individual in Congress it takes the majority to out power him. Especially when they throw out executive orders like its going out of style. --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>mooreandrew58 posted [p:924109368] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hairistotle posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote>Its not perfect but its better than letting 3 cities decide every election. My state would have like zero relevance in an election without it.</quote> how many people are gonna post the same nonsense</quote> Its true and you cant really deny it. Majority of the countrys population is in major cities. Rural areas would have zero say in anything. My state has cities sure but their population is a mere fraction of what NYC or LA has. Biggest city in my state based on what I just looked up doesnt even break a million where as NYC has over 8 million</quote> I guess you forget the Senate exists and that the president's actual powers are fairly limited without congress.</quote> And people bitch about every state getting 2 of those also. Not saying you but ive seen it. And the president still holds more power than any individual in Congress it takes the majority to out power him. Especially when they throw out executive orders like its going out of style.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrToothHasYou 07/01/19 5:13:58 PM #173:	mooreandrew58 posted... Hairistotle posted... mooreandrew58 posted... Its not perfect but its better than letting 3 cities decide every election. My state would have like zero relevance in an election without it. how many people are gonna post the same nonsense Its true and you cant really deny it. Majority of the countrys population is in major cities. Rural areas would have zero say in anything. My state has cities sure but their population is a mere fraction of what NYC or LA has. Biggest city in my state based on what I just looked up doesnt even break a million where as NYC has over 8 million It takes my entire state to go over just what that one city has. Stuff like this is why I prefer states having more power to govern themselves cause what we want down here isnt necessarily the same stuff a new yorker wants That still doesnt make it right for your vote to matter more than a New Yorkers, which it probably does under the current system. --- http://weareontherun.bandcamp.com ^^^^^ HEY! ^^^ LISTEN! ^^^^^ <cite>MrToothHasYou posted [p:924109575] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote><cite>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hairistotle posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote>Its not perfect but its better than letting 3 cities decide every election. My state would have like zero relevance in an election without it.</quote> how many people are gonna post the same nonsense</quote> Its true and you cant really deny it. Majority of the countrys population is in major cities. Rural areas would have zero say in anything. My state has cities sure but their population is a mere fraction of what NYC or LA has. Biggest city in my state based on what I just looked up doesnt even break a million where as NYC has over 8 million It takes my entire state to go over just what that one city has. Stuff like this is why I prefer states having more power to govern themselves cause what we want down here isnt necessarily the same stuff a new yorker wants</quote> That still doesnt make it right for your vote to matter more than a New Yorkers, which it probably does under the current system.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
X8Azazel8X 07/01/19 5:18:50 PM #174:	Caution998 posted... Using bold for 6 paragraphs is like highlighting an entire page in a textbook Every little bit helps since many people pretend it isn't happening and try not to read it where ever they see it. --- No matter how gaudy you make your appearance...it is only a facade.. Obama Elected Hopes Rise..Fears Shatter\| Drump: HACKED POTUS <cite>X8Azazel8X posted [p:924109785] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution998 posted...</cite> <quote>Using bold for 6 paragraphs is like highlighting an entire page in a textbook</quote> Every little bit helps since many people pretend it isn't happening and try not to read it where ever they see it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 07/01/19 5:22:00 PM #175:	mooreandrew58 posted... Tmaster148 posted... mooreandrew58 posted... Hairistotle posted... mooreandrew58 posted... Its not perfect but its better than letting 3 cities decide every election. My state would have like zero relevance in an election without it. how many people are gonna post the same nonsense Its true and you cant really deny it. Majority of the countrys population is in major cities. Rural areas would have zero say in anything. My state has cities sure but their population is a mere fraction of what NYC or LA has. Biggest city in my state based on what I just looked up doesnt even break a million where as NYC has over 8 million I guess you forget the Senate exists and that the president's actual powers are fairly limited without congress. And people bitch about every state getting 2 of those also. Not saying you but ive seen it. And the president still holds more power than any individual in Congress it takes the majority to out power him. Especially when they throw out executive orders like its going out of style. Executive Orders can't do everything. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:924109939] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote><cite>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hairistotle posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote>Its not perfect but its better than letting 3 cities decide every election. My state would have like zero relevance in an election without it.</quote> how many people are gonna post the same nonsense</quote> Its true and you cant really deny it. Majority of the countrys population is in major cities. Rural areas would have zero say in anything. My state has cities sure but their population is a mere fraction of what NYC or LA has. Biggest city in my state based on what I just looked up doesnt even break a million where as NYC has over 8 million</quote> I guess you forget the Senate exists and that the president's actual powers are fairly limited without congress.</quote> And people bitch about every state getting 2 of those also. Not saying you but ive seen it. And the president still holds more power than any individual in Congress it takes the majority to out power him. Especially when they throw out executive orders like its going out of style.</quote> Executive Orders can't do everything.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kami_no_Kami 07/01/19 5:32:38 PM #176:	mooreandrew58 posted... Hairistotle posted... mooreandrew58 posted... Its not perfect but its better than letting 3 cities decide every election. My state would have like zero relevance in an election without it. how many people are gonna post the same nonsense Its true and you cant really deny it. Majority of the countrys population is in major cities. Rural areas would have zero say in anything. My state has cities sure but their population is a mere fraction of what NYC or LA has. Biggest city in my state based on what I just looked up doesnt even break a million where as NYC has over 8 million It takes my entire state to go over just what that one city has. Stuff like this is why I prefer states having more power to govern themselves cause what we want down here isnt necessarily the same stuff a new yorker wants Whos to say what a New Yorker wants? Youre making huge blanket statements, but a lot of New Yorkers and Californians have the same problems that midwesterners. Honestly, there are only two choices right now and almost everyone can agree that theyre consistently picking the lesser of two evils anyway, so opinion can swing but, under the current system, thats very difficult. Also, you know why most non-swing states seem overwhelmingly blue or red, right? Its because most Republicans in California and Democrats in Texas dont bother voting. Because their votes dont matter. Because of the EC. <cite>Kami_no_Kami posted [p:924110446] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote><cite>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hairistotle posted...</cite> <quote><cite>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote>Its not perfect but its better than letting 3 cities decide every election. My state would have like zero relevance in an election without it.</quote> how many people are gonna post the same nonsense</quote> Its true and you cant really deny it. Majority of the countrys population is in major cities. Rural areas would have zero say in anything. My state has cities sure but their population is a mere fraction of what NYC or LA has. Biggest city in my state based on what I just looked up doesnt even break a million where as NYC has over 8 million It takes my entire state to go over just what that one city has. Stuff like this is why I prefer states having more power to govern themselves cause what we want down here isnt necessarily the same stuff a new yorker wants</quote> Whos to say what a New Yorker wants? Youre making huge blanket statements, but a lot of New Yorkers and Californians have the same problems that midwesterners. Honestly, there are only two choices right now and almost everyone can agree that theyre consistently picking the lesser of two evils anyway, so opinion can swing but, under the current system, thats very difficult. Also, you know why most non-swing states seem overwhelmingly blue or red, right? Its because most Republicans in California and Democrats in Texas dont bother voting. Because their votes dont matter. Because of the EC.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dan da man 07/01/19 5:57:55 PM #177:	Antifar posted... Dark_Spiret posted... large cities would basically dictate everything and ways of life in a large city is quite a bit different from rural or even the suburbs. neither system is perfect, but otherwise the 51% can "rule" over the 49%. Why do you prefer the 49 percent being able to rule over the 51 percent? because hes in the 49% obviously --- 313's only* true cinema fan* <cite>dan da man posted [p:924111622] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dark_Spiret posted...</cite> <quote>large cities would basically dictate everything and ways of life in a large city is quite a bit different from rural or even the suburbs. neither system is perfect, but otherwise the 51% can "rule" over the 49%.</quote> Why do you prefer the 49 percent being able to rule over the 51 percent?</quote> because hes in the 49% obviously</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iodine 07/01/19 6:00:28 PM #178:	Abolishing the Electoral College benefits Democrats massively so that is my stance. --- In Belichick we Trust <cite>Iodine posted [p:924111726] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote>Abolishing the Electoral College benefits Democrats massively so that is my stance.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dan da man 07/01/19 6:19:31 PM #179:	democracy benefits the democrats you say --- 313's only* true cinema fan* <cite>dan da man posted [p:924112454] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote>democracy benefits the democrats you say</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Taily_Po 07/01/19 6:45:21 PM #180:	Houston posted... Since we're the "United States", every state should have a voice. Every state does have a voice, that's literally why the electoral system exists. --- "If I were a ghost, this is certainly the kind of place I'd haunt." <cite>Taily_Po posted [p:924113560] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote><cite>Houston posted...</cite> <quote>Since we're the "United States", every state should have a voice. </quote> Every state does have a voice, that's literally why the electoral system exists.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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infantfinite128 07/01/19 7:11:54 PM #182:	I'm for the Electoral College. --- "It was pride that changed angels into devils; it is humility that makes men as angels."-Saint Augustine <cite>infantfinite128 posted [p:924114761] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote>I'm for the Electoral College.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlCalavicci 07/01/19 10:03:43 PM #183:	tag because I love these arguments. So fascinating --- http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111123223446/simpsons/images/9/99/K.png I didn't even give you my coat! <cite>AlCalavicci posted [p:924122315] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote>tag because I love these arguments. So fascinating</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 07/02/19 3:57:34 AM #184:	Taily_Po posted... Houston posted... Since we're the "United States", every state should have a voice. Every state does have a voice, that's literally why the electoral system exists. Except some states have so fee votes they may as well not bother voting @Taily_Po --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:924132604] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote><cite>Taily_Po posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Houston posted...</cite> <quote>Since we're the "United States", every state should have a voice. </quote> Every state does have a voice, that's literally why the electoral system exists.</quote> Except some states have so fee votes they may as well not bother voting @Taily_Po</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dan da man 07/02/19 6:24:59 AM #185:	Sackgurl posted... Behaviorism posted... The electoral college will never go away because the United states isn't a democracy unfortunately it's more a problem with being a federation rather than unitary government, than democracy/republic electoral systems presently the EC is essentially a republican weapon, yet this still happens: http://gov.nv.gov/News/Press/2019/Governor_Sisolak_Statement_on_Assembly_Bill_186/ Democracy/republic aren't separate electoral systems. Republic is just about who the head of state. The USA is supposed to be a democratic republic. --- 313's only* true cinema fan* <cite>dan da man posted [p:924134618] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sackgurl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Behaviorism posted...</cite> <quote>The electoral college will never go away because the United states isn't a democracy unfortunately</quote> it's more a problem with being a federation rather than unitary government, than democracy/republic electoral systems presently the EC is essentially a republican weapon, yet this still happens: http://gov.nv.gov/News/Press/2019/Governor_Sisolak_Statement_on_Assembly_Bill_186/</quote> Democracy/republic aren't separate electoral systems. Republic is just about who the head of state. The USA is supposed to be a democratic republic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
0xDEFECADE 07/02/19 6:27:17 AM #186:	I think it's a good thing. Just because Trump won with less than the popular vote doesn't mean it should be thrown away. --- 1101 1110 1111 1110 1100 1010 1101 1110 one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>0xDEFECADE posted [p:924134643] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote>I think it's a good thing. Just because Trump won with less than the popular vote doesn't mean it should be thrown away.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DezDroppedFreak 07/02/19 9:49:12 AM #187:	0xDEFECADE posted... I think it's a good thing. Just because Trump won with less than the popular vote doesn't mean it should be thrown away. Yall parroting this talking point realize wanting to abolish the EC existed long before this last election right And wow what a shocker. Most of the people defending it ITT are conservatives afraid republicans wouldnt win another election --- I feel like Ratatouille when I'm whipping that cheddar <cite>DezDroppedFreak posted [p:924138887] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote><cite>0xDEFECADE posted...</cite> <quote>I think it's a good thing. Just because Trump won with less than the popular vote doesn't mean it should be thrown away.</quote> Yall parroting this talking point realize wanting to abolish the EC existed long before this last election right And wow what a shocker. Most of the people defending it ITT are conservatives afraid republicans wouldnt win another election</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution998 07/02/19 9:55:20 AM #188:	No, it's conservatives who don't want to ruin the image of the founding fathers. Imagine if every time the Eagles lost a game, I demanded they changed some rule, mid game mind you, so they could win. --- https://youtu.be/U06jlgpMtQs <cite>Caution998 posted [p:924139071] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote>No, it's conservatives who don't want to ruin the image of the founding fathers. Imagine if every time the Eagles lost a game, I demanded they changed some rule, mid game mind you, so they could win.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phantom_Nook 07/02/19 10:04:42 AM #189:	Caution998 posted... No, it's conservatives who don't want to ruin the image of the founding fathers. what a great excuse. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Phantom_Nook posted [p:924139364] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution998 posted...</cite> <quote>No, it's conservatives who don't want to ruin the image of the founding fathers.</quote> what a great excuse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DezDroppedFreak 07/02/19 10:05:29 AM #190:	Again Parroting that same talking point when support to abolish the EC has been around forever Nice virtue signaling about the founding fathers. Still code for republicans would never win another election again. --- I feel like Ratatouille when I'm whipping that cheddar <cite>DezDroppedFreak posted [p:924139393] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote>Again Parroting that same talking point when support to abolish the EC has been around forever Nice virtue signaling about the founding fathers. Still code for republicans would never win another election again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
0xDEFECADE 07/02/19 10:09:41 AM #191:	DezDroppedFreak posted... Again Parroting that same talking point when support to abolish the EC has been around forever Nice virtue signaling about the founding fathers. Still code for republicans would never win another election again. well yeah of course. I just can't stand "sore loser" liberal voters complaining about how Hilary lost because of the EC after the fact just because Trump won --- 1101 1110 1111 1110 1100 1010 1101 1110 one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>0xDEFECADE posted [p:924139530] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote><cite>DezDroppedFreak posted...</cite> <quote>Again Parroting that same talking point when support to abolish the EC has been around forever Nice virtue signaling about the founding fathers. Still code for republicans would never win another election again.</quote> well yeah of course. I just can't stand "sore loser" liberal voters complaining about how Hilary lost because of the EC after the fact just because Trump won</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution998 07/02/19 10:10:22 AM #192:	Keeping a single party in power for decades upon decades is not the answer. That's the atmosphere where corruption occurs and things grow stagnant. You should WANT the parties to flip power every once in a while. It could solve a lot of problems. --- https://youtu.be/U06jlgpMtQs <cite>Caution998 posted [p:924139556] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote>Keeping a single party in power for decades upon decades is not the answer. That's the atmosphere where corruption occurs and things grow stagnant. You should WANT the parties to flip power every once in a while. It could solve a lot of problems.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DezDroppedFreak 07/02/19 10:13:14 AM #193:	Caution998 posted... Keeping a single party in power for decades upon decades is not the answer. That's the atmosphere where corruption occurs and things grow stagnant. You should WANT the parties to flip power every once in a while. It could solve a lot of problems. If the other party is still stuck in the dark ages then I want nothing to do with it. Maybe the GOP should adapt to what the people want instead of taking it up the ass from corporations If your sole argument is popular vote would lead to one party having full control, then that says A LOT about the other party --- I feel like Ratatouille when I'm whipping that cheddar <cite>DezDroppedFreak posted [p:924139658] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution998 posted...</cite> <quote>Keeping a single party in power for decades upon decades is not the answer. That's the atmosphere where corruption occurs and things grow stagnant. You should WANT the parties to flip power every once in a while. It could solve a lot of problems.</quote> If the other party is still stuck in the dark ages then I want nothing to do with it. Maybe the GOP should adapt to what the people want instead of taking it up the ass from corporations If your sole argument is popular vote would lead to one party having full control, then that says A LOT about the other party</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 07/02/19 10:16:23 AM #194:	We shouldnt give one party too much control, but we shouldnt have parties actually representing the will of the people either is such a weird stance to take --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:924139753] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote>We shouldnt give one party too much control, but we shouldnt have parties actually representing the will of the people either is such a weird stance to take</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution998 07/02/19 10:43:42 AM #195:	I'm just saying, man. Don't you think some of those southern states could benefit from having a Democrat in power? I think California could benefit from a Republican. I think Michigan could benefit from a Republican. I think some of these cities could benefit from a Republican. There should be a healthy swap once in a while. This would ensure a balance imo. --- https://youtu.be/U06jlgpMtQs <cite>Caution998 posted [p:924140698] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote>I'm just saying, man. Don't you think some of those southern states could benefit from having a Democrat in power? I think California could benefit from a Republican. I think Michigan could benefit from a Republican. I think some of these cities could benefit from a Republican. There should be a healthy swap once in a while. This would ensure a balance imo.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 07/02/19 10:53:32 AM #196:	Whats the point of making up strange scenarios in one post and then acting like its a factual prediction of the future in the next? --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:924141069] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote>Whats the point of making up strange scenarios in one post and then acting like its a factual prediction of the future in the next?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bover_87 07/02/19 1:25:29 PM #197:	King_Hellebuyck posted... Whats the point of making up strange scenarios in one post and then acting like its a factual prediction of the future in the next? That's what caution does lol --- I...I shall consume. Consume...consume everything. ~ [FFRK] rcr6 - Arbiter's Tome/Forbidden Power/Divine Veil Grimoire <cite>bover_87 posted [p:924147138] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>Whats the point of making up strange scenarios in one post and then acting like its a factual prediction of the future in the next?</quote> That's what caution does lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 07/02/19 1:28:17 PM #198:	The Electoral College is not a mechanism to ensure the president changes parties every x years. If you want such a mechanism, support that. But the EC is poorly designed for that purpose, and in some circumstances could allow a party to dominate long term. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:924147256] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote>The Electoral College is not a mechanism to ensure the president changes parties every x years. If you want such a mechanism, support that. But the EC is poorly designed for that purpose, and in some circumstances could allow a party to dominate long term.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prestoff 07/02/19 2:12:02 PM #199:	0xDEFECADE posted... DezDroppedFreak posted... Again Parroting that same talking point when support to abolish the EC has been around forever Nice virtue signaling about the founding fathers. Still code for republicans would never win another election again. well yeah of course. I just can't stand "sore loser" liberal voters complaining about how Hilary lost because of the EC after the fact just because Trump won Trump literally did the same thing when Obama won 2 times in a row. --- It's what all true warriors strive for! Switch FC: SW-0575-4758-7878 <cite>Prestoff posted [p:924149201] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote><cite>0xDEFECADE posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DezDroppedFreak posted...</cite> <quote>Again Parroting that same talking point when support to abolish the EC has been around forever Nice virtue signaling about the founding fathers. Still code for republicans would never win another election again.</quote> well yeah of course. I just can't stand "sore loser" liberal voters complaining about how Hilary lost because of the EC after the fact just because Trump won</quote> Trump literally did the same thing when Obama won 2 times in a row.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 07/02/19 2:12:37 PM #200:	Prestoff posted... 0xDEFECADE posted... DezDroppedFreak posted... Again Parroting that same talking point when support to abolish the EC has been around forever Nice virtue signaling about the founding fathers. Still code for republicans would never win another election again. well yeah of course. I just can't stand "sore loser" liberal voters complaining about how Hilary lost because of the EC after the fact just because Trump won Trump literally did the same thing when Obama won 2 times in a row. But its ok because its their guy. --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:924149232] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote><cite>Prestoff posted...</cite> <quote><cite>0xDEFECADE posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DezDroppedFreak posted...</cite> <quote>Again Parroting that same talking point when support to abolish the EC has been around forever Nice virtue signaling about the founding fathers. Still code for republicans would never win another election again.</quote> well yeah of course. I just can't stand "sore loser" liberal voters complaining about how Hilary lost because of the EC after the fact just because Trump won</quote> Trump literally did the same thing when Obama won 2 times in a row.</quote> But its ok because its their guy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 07/02/19 2:32:33 PM #201:	Conservaderps claiming that dems haven't been extremely anti-EC at least since 2000 is hilarious projection. --- "Your mother was a broken down tub of junk with more gentlemen callers than the operator." <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:924150085] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote>Conservaderps claiming that dems haven't been extremely anti-EC at least since 2000 is hilarious projection.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 07/02/19 2:37:19 PM #202:	As I point, probably to no avail, in every one of these topics whenever the "Dems didn't care til 2016 argument is made," seven states approved the National Popular Vote pact during the Obama administration. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:924150287] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote>As I point, probably to no avail, in every one of these topics whenever the "Dems didn't care til 2016 argument is made," seven states approved the National Popular Vote pact during the Obama administration.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 07/02/19 2:38:25 PM #203:	Electoral College proved itself to be a detriment in 2000 and 2016, so I'm against. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:924150342] in Are you fo... [t:77831650]...</cite> <quote>Electoral College proved itself to be a detriment in 2000 and 2016, so I'm against.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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