Current Events > Are these Putins legit views on the LGBTQ community?

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Ilishe posted...

They're not actually repressing homosexuality, they're just limiting the exposure of children to it, which is in line with the core values the people of Russia hold dear.

and which is a shitty value. Why are you using cultural relativism to defend shitty values. Who cares if homophobia is a "traditional russian value." Dump it. It's bad.
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Wetterdew posted...

Ilishe posted...

They're not actually repressing homosexuality, they're just limiting the exposure of children to it, which is in line with the core values the people of Russia hold dear.

and which is a shitty value. Why are you using cultural relativism to defend shitty values. Who cares if homophobia is a "traditional russian value." Dump it. It's bad.

Who are you to judge another's nations values? There's more to the world than the USA. Shut the fuck up.
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"If somebody lives in a different country that means you can't criticize any of their actions or beliefs"

that's you. that's how dumb you sound.

btw I didn't say I was american
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@Wetterdew posted...

"If somebody lives in a different country that means you can't criticize any of their actions or beliefs"

that's you. that's how dumb you sound.

btw I didn't say I was american

When the Pulse nightclub shooting happened Patty spent the whole time trolling the LGBTQ community. Just block him. Don't engage.
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hyperpsycho posted...

@Wetterdew posted...

"If somebody lives in a different country that means you can't criticize any of their actions or beliefs"

that's you. that's how dumb you sound.

btw I didn't say I was american

When the Pulse nightclub shooting happened Patty spent the whole time trolling the LGBTQ community. Just block him. Don't engage.

I had him tagged as a homophobe but ew. Thanks for the message, I have blocked him
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The Admiral posted...

Agnostic420 posted...

"Somebody came up with this idea of five or six genders," Putin said at a G20 news conference in Japan. "I don't even understand what they mean."

Silly Putin. Everyone knows there aren't five of six genders, there are 57.

That's Heinz products and they actually have himdreds, they just didn't change the brand recognizable 57 varieties thing.
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Ah yes, I too, block others who share a different viewpoint from me. Oh wait, no I don't.

Can't imagine living in an echo chamber where you're always surrounded with the same beliefs. You'll never grow as a person going that route.
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Wetterdew posted...

"If somebody lives in a different country that means you can't criticize any of their actions or beliefs"

that's you. that's how dumb you sound.

btw I didn't say I was american

Unless they're Muslim, then judge away.

But it's Trump's daddy saying this, that makes it ok.
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Vicious_Dios posted...

Ah yes, I too, block others who share a different viewpoint from me. Oh wait, no I don't.

Can't imagine living in an echo chamber where you're always surrounded with the same beliefs. You'll never grow as a person going that route.

Dude everyone knows youre trolling
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people saying you agree with putin

your being homophobic that is a fact and you know this

all this will do is make children who are gay be bullied and grow up thinking something is wrong with them

this is a proven fact in history
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Vicious_Dios posted...

Ah yes, I too, block others who share a different viewpoint from me. Oh wait, no I don't.

Can't imagine living in an echo chamber where you're always surrounded with the same beliefs. You'll never grow as a person going that route.

You're not helping your point at all there, buddy .
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Ilishe posted...

I'm not anti LGBT, I just feel Putin has a good point here saying that the core population which makes up let's say 95% of the population should have these things their way.

"its okay to discriminate against a minority group if the majority hates them"

come on, bruh
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MwarriorHiei posted...

Ilishe posted...

I'm not anti LGBT, I just feel Putin has a good point here saying that the core population which makes up let's say 95% of the population should have these things their way.

"its okay to discriminate against a minority group if the majority hates them"

come on, bruh

indeed hell its do to propagana given out by puttin that people hate the LGBT community
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AceMos posted...

people saying you agree with putin

your being homophobic that is a fact and you know this

all this will do is make children who are gay be bullied and grow up thinking something is wrong with them

this is a proven fact in history

Putin said nothing wrong. The LGBT got everything they need and more. Literally an entire month dedicated to them. Time to stop putting them on a pedestal.

There's a reason Trump is president. The SJWs are more vocal but people are getting tired of this shit.
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Vicious_Dios posted...

Ah yes, I too, block others who share a different viewpoint from me. Oh wait, no I don't.

Can't imagine living in an echo chamber where you're always surrounded with the same beliefs. You'll never grow as a person going that route.

I'm sure a religious homophobe that disagrees with gay marriage and trolls dead gay kids has something worthwhile to say about the gay community and their treatment.
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BTW, I never trolled the pulse shooting. There were members of the LGBT community on this board looking for more sympathy claiming the shooting was targeting gays but there wasn't evidence for that. They even went so far that they tried to claim the shooter was a self hating gay man. All false.
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King_Hellebuyck posted...

Dude everyone knows youre trolling

Having an opposing viewpoint doesn't mean that we're trolling. Well, I can't speak for others, but I'm not. Just being honest with you and with myself.

tri sapphire posted...

You're not helping your point at all there, buddy .

By that logic, neither are you with whatever that post is supposed to be.

jborgan posted...

I'm sure a religious homophobe that disagrees with gay marriage has something worthwhile to say about the gay community and their treatment.

You follow me around a lot, but least you can say that you disagree to me in person, and not flat out ignore it because of "muh low intolerance to other ideas". So, I guess that's commendable.
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Just wondering how listening to somebody who disagrees with gay marriage for "cultural reasons" and trolls dead gay kids will help me grow as a person.

By the way, pointing out the dumb shit you say, which is damn near every time, isn't following you around. A religious homophobe in the US isn't that special.
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Vicious_Dios posted...

Ah yes, I too, block others who share a different viewpoint from me. Oh wait, no I don't.

Can't imagine living in an echo chamber where you're always surrounded with the same beliefs. You'll never grow as a person going that route.

blocking you too. (I already had you tagged as homophobe so I know you have a record) bye
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why is it homophobes always act like they know more about the discrimination members of the LGBT community face

they think they know more about some one elses life its just uhg
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The Admiral posted...

Agnostic420 posted...

"Somebody came up with this idea of five or six genders," Putin said at a G20 news conference in Japan. "I don't even understand what they mean."

Silly Putin. Everyone knows there aren't five of six genders, there are 57.

Where did you get 57 from? There are at least 99 of them as mentioned in this list:


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Youd honestly have to be super dense to hear something Putin said and believe he meant it
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Of course Putin and Russia is totally LGBT-friendly. Huh? What's that? It isn't!?
https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/new-gay-purge-in-chechnya-kills-at-least-two-forty-detained-report-1.6834101
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MwarriorHiei posted...

Ilishe posted...

I'm not anti LGBT, I just feel Putin has a good point here saying that the core population which makes up let's say 95% of the population should have these things their way.

"its okay to discriminate against a minority group if the majority hates them"

come on, bruh

It's not discrimination if you don't facilitate an agenda. It's being neutral.

It's also anti-democratic for a minority to dictate terms to a majority.
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Ilishe posted...

MwarriorHiei posted...

Ilishe posted...

I'm not anti LGBT, I just feel Putin has a good point here saying that the core population which makes up let's say 95% of the population should have these things their way.

"its okay to discriminate against a minority group if the majority hates them"

come on, bruh

It's not discrimination if you don't facilitate an agenda. It's being neutral.

It's also anti-democratic for a minority to dictate terms to a majority.

1. Terms are not dictated. Gay people have absolutely no power to dictate anything, in Russia of all places. Hell, it isn't exactly a democracy in the first place, so I think un-democratically trying to achieve basic human rights would make sense.

2. An agenda is facilitated. Gay people do not have the same rights as straight people and are not socially treated as equal or even human in Russia. That is discrimination.
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And you know this how exactly? Western sources of information?

You'd be surprised how much disinformation there is about Russia.
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Let's see...

There's a law preventing anyone under the age of 18 viewing any material indicating someone could be gay. Discrimination and censorship based on sexuality.

There is no law against discrimination based on sexuality.

Same sex marriage is not allowed (basic human right if allowed for heterosexual couples)

Literal concentration camps for gay people in Chechenya

Somewhere between 40-45% of Russians support mandatory isolation of gay people on mental health grounds, and about 5% support execution of them. 74% believe it's not acceptable in society, and 44% believe homosexual acts should be criminalised.

I could go on.
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Ilishe posted...

It's not discrimination if you don't facilitate an agenda. It's being neutral.

Russia has definitely made anti-homosexuality into an agenda.

Ilishe posted...

It's also anti-democratic for a minority to dictate terms to a majority.

So the Civil Rights movement in the US was a mistake? After all, it was a minority group attempting to tell the majority population that how they were being treated was wrong.
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Ilishe posted...

And you know this how exactly? Western sources of information?

You'd be surprised how much disinformation there is about Russia.

Oh.
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Hm, saying you agree with the article in any way is grounds for moderation.

wow
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this guy is Croatian too, p scary to think of all the stuff he would support in the balkans on the basis of the 'minorities can't expect to be recognised as people contrary to the wishes of the majority' stuff

Wetterdew posted...

Vicious_Dios posted...

Ah yes, I too, block others who share a different viewpoint from me. Oh wait, no I don't.

Can't imagine living in an echo chamber where you're always surrounded with the same beliefs. You'll never grow as a person going that route.

blocking you too. (I already had you tagged as homophobe so I know you have a record) bye

Oh no... My world has been utterly shattered with this news. How will I ever go on?
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Malfunction posted...

this guy is Croatian too, p scary to think of all the stuff he would support in the balkans on the basis of the 'minorities can't expect to be recognised as people contrary to the wishes of the majority' stuff

Croatian? Let's hope he's not an admirer of the Ustae.
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No, they were fascists. I think you kids have some growing up to do.
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Okay? People shouldnt force sexual rhetoric and labels on children.
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Patty_Fleur posted...

AceMos posted...

people saying you agree with putin

your being homophobic that is a fact and you know this

all this will do is make children who are gay be bullied and grow up thinking something is wrong with them

this is a proven fact in history

Putin said nothing wrong. The LGBT got everything they need and more. Literally an entire month dedicated to them. Time to stop putting them on a pedestal.

Not in Russia they don't. They propagate full on hate speech against homosexuals over popular radio stations. They don't have parades or pride months there.
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