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LinkPizza
06/28/19 7:44:59 PM
#51:


DrPrimemaster posted...
Her wanting to be with her children and have them move with her is completely fine and valid and honestly it would make her a bad parent if that wasn't the case. But she should respect their wishes.

You don't think it was wrong of her to try to force the kids to do something they didn't want to do?

Depends. In her mind, not only did she want to be with them, but maybe she thought it was in their best interest. Sometimes, kids want to do things that they cant. Im not saying that is was in their best interest or not, but she possibly thought it was. As you said, I agree that her wanting the kids to be with her in valid, though some people have actually said that her wanting the kids to come with her means she didnt love them...
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LinkPizza
06/28/19 7:46:19 PM
#52:


scaler24 posted...
AnnoyedCops posted...
Well if she wanted to move, it's kind of on both of them for not being able to reach an agreement on how to split time between the kids.

There's not much you can do to split time with the kids evently when one of the parties moves to another state. What ends up happening is one of them gets them for the majority of the year and the other gets them for most holidays.

The latter is obviously not ideal to either of them, but if neither of them are willing to give in, it's up to the kids to choose and they did.

Consider also that we're only getting her side in this story. If ahe manages to look this bad while telling the story herself, I can't imagine what her ex would have to say about this.

Well, they sort of get to decide. When youre 13, you get more of an input. But its not solely up to them. With my BF, his son would rather live with him again. But the mom doesnt want him to.
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wwinterj25
06/28/19 11:08:54 PM
#53:


LinkPizza posted...
Even if stable families, people sometimes have to move. Like for work. And once you reach the age of 13, you are given a little more rights in choosing which parent. Only a little, though...


What part of your own kids before everything do you not understand? Work wants you to move? Not if that means not seeing your kids much right? No excuses other than selfishness.

LinkPizza posted...
I dont.


Don't ever be a parent, ok?

LinkPizza posted...
For the deaths door thing, that can happen with kids who live with their parents. Like if the parents went on a vacation, or were visiting family in another state, or just out of the state for a week for work. But I also know you dont have to live next door or down the street from you child at all time.


Point is it's much harder for someone who is being a "long distance" parent to actually ... well....parent. I thought I made that clear. This is simply facts. Also yeah living very near your child or at least in the same city is what most parents would do as you know it is their child. We are not talking grown arsed adults here.

LinkPizza posted...
I will disagree with this. I dont see it as part time parenting.


Well it isn't full time parenting when someone doesn't live close to their kids. How can it possibly be?

LinkPizza posted...
The wives were the ones who moved.


I wasn't going to question this but his wives or a lesbian couple?

LinkPizza posted...
He takes care of his kids all the time. He makes sure they always have money and clothes. And pays for them to come out to visit all the time. And stay stay for long periods. But thats because they also have family here. Either way, they would probably spend some breaks here to visit family.


Takes more to be a parent than paying for the life he helped create. Still I'm not here saying the right and wrong of being a parent as that's none of my concern and a perfect parents isn't a thing. The fact is however a full time parent isn't one who lives a long way from their kid no matter what way you like to dress it up as as again it can't possibly be when they are not their full time. I understand though love is blind.

DrPrimemaster posted...
So you're giving her a pass because the husband might have done the same thing?


He's giving her a pass because his BF is also a long distant parent. That's the only reason. I mean it's clear in the OP and all way through this topic. Not sure in asking folks opinions if all your going to do is "no you my BF has feelings!" at almost every response. Still it's interesting none the less getting a insight into how some folks mind works.
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LinkPizza
06/28/19 11:20:19 PM
#54:


wwinterj25 posted...
What part of your own kids before everything do you not understand? Work wants you to move? Not if that means not seeing your kids much right? No excuses other than selfishness.

That's great if you afford not to. If you become homeless because you can't afford to live because you quit your job, then that's not good. Moving would definitely be better in that case...

wwinterj25 posted...
Don't ever be a parent, ok?

I'll do what I want instead of listening to strangers who don't know the first thing about me...

wwinterj25 posted...
Point is it's much harder for someone who is being a "long distance" parent to actually ... well....parent. I thought I made that clear. This is simply facts. Also yeah living very near your child or at least in the same city is what most parents would do as you know it is their child. We are not talking grown arsed adults here.

It's great if you can live close. But that's not the case in a lot of situations...

wwinterj25 posted...
Well it isn't full time parenting when someone doesn't live close to their kids. How can it possibly be?

Even living close doesn't mean full time. Especially when joint custody. Even when joint custody, you still don't full time parent as you aren't always with the children. And sometimes, not allowed until your turn depending on how their custody works.

wwinterj25 posted...
I wasn't going to question this but his wives or a lesbian couple?

Two separate wives. He was married twice before...

wwinterj25 posted...
Takes more to be a parent than paying for the life he helped create. Still I'm not here saying the right and wrong of being a parent as that's none of my concern and a perfect parents isn't a thing. The fact is however a full time parent isn't one who lives a long way from their kid no matter what way you like to dress it up as as again it can't possibly be when they are not their full time. I understand though love is blind.

I kow it takes more than that. But you can only do what you can with the hand you're dealt. Just because others don't agree doesn't mean you're not trying to do the best you can. People always question things parents do. But they usually know their kids best. And even when other's don't agree, they usually try to do what's best for the kids. So, her wanting to take the kids may look bad to some. But maybe she thought that was the best option. Why? You would have to ask her. She probably had her own reasons. Once you're divorced, unless you have full-custody with visitation rights, usually neither parents are "full-time" anymore.

wwinterj25 posted...
He's giving her a pass because his BF is also a long distant parent. That's the only reason. I mean it's clear in the OP and all way through this topic. Not sure in asking folks opinions if all your going to do is "no you my BF has feelings!" at almost every response.

That's also wrong. I wasn't even thinking of his situation when I first heard the story. Only afterwards. I was listening at work with friends, so you can think that if you want. But it'd be wrong.
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Smarkil
06/28/19 11:26:13 PM
#55:


She's absolutely the asshole. I don't have kids and I likely never will but I have to imagine if my choice was to choose between my SO and my kids, I would choose my kids every time. At least if your goal is to actually love your kids.
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LinkPizza
06/28/19 11:27:49 PM
#56:


Smarkil posted...
She's absolutely the asshole. I don't have kids and I likely never will but I have to imagine if my choice was to choose between my SO and my kids, I would choose my kids every time. At least if your goal is to actually love your kids.

Technically, she wanted both. She wanted her kids to move with her. And she can still see them whenever... if they let her...
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Smarkil
06/28/19 11:34:01 PM
#57:


LinkPizza posted...
Smarkil posted...
She's absolutely the asshole. I don't have kids and I likely never will but I have to imagine if my choice was to choose between my SO and my kids, I would choose my kids every time. At least if your goal is to actually love your kids.

Technically, she wanted both. She wanted her kids to move with her. And she can still see them whenever... if they let her...


You can't fuck up your ex's custody my moving the kids away unless the ex agrees to it. That's how it works in pretty much every state in the country. Your decisions don't get to impact other people regardless of the fact that the kids wanted to stay in Cali.

She could just as easily have a long distance relationship with her husband/boyfriend whatever they are. They're both adults. They can work that out. You don't get to have your cake and eat it too.
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wwinterj25
06/28/19 11:34:42 PM
#58:


LinkPizza posted...
Moving would definitely be better in that case...


Debatable.

LinkPizza posted...
I'll do what I want instead of listening to strangers who don't know the first thing about me..

Oh we know enough. Some would even say too much. Still it was good advice, ok?

LinkPizza posted...
Especially when joint custody. Even when joint custody, you still don't full time parent as you aren't always with the children. And sometimes, not allowed until your turn depending on how their custody works.


I mean all your saying here is that both are part time parents so whatever works for you man.

LinkPizza posted...
Two separate wives. He was married twice before...


Interesting. Although I admit the lesbian thing would have been more interesting.

LinkPizza posted...
So, her wanting to take the kids may look bad to some. But maybe she thought that was the best option.


Despite her kids saying they don't want to? Some folk should listen to their kids more. I mean to bring up what you said about your BFs kid wanting to live with him his kids mum should also listen to their kid. It is of course their business just as is this story. It doesn't stop peoples opinions though.

LinkPizza posted...
I wasn't even thinking of his situation when I first heard the story.


You brought it up in the OP post though so until I learn to read peoples minds that's all I have to go on.
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reruns_revenge
06/28/19 11:50:41 PM
#59:


LinkPizza posted...
Smarkil posted...
She's absolutely the asshole. I don't have kids and I likely never will but I have to imagine if my choice was to choose between my SO and my kids, I would choose my kids every time. At least if your goal is to actually love your kids.

Technically, she wanted both. She wanted her kids to move with her. And she can still see them whenever... if they let her...


Yeah, because she's a selfish asshole dingbat.

1. Dad had a 50/50 parenting arrangement that was clearly important to him. Mom did not care about his feelings and tried to flip that into something like a 90/10 parenting arrangement where she would basically have full custody and drag the kids far away from him without his consent. But she's not the asshole because she'd pay for some plane tickets and reasons.

2. Children did not want to move with mom. Mom did not care and wanted to force them to move with her. But she's not the asshole because she wants her kids to be with her even though they do not want to move.

3. Mom, apparently unhappy with the resistance she is encountering from both dad and her own children, forces the dispute into a full blown custody hearing before a judge. Who also concludes she is being unreasonable and completely rules against her. But even though she's now 0-3 with dad, her kids and even a judge, and undoubtedly forced dad to incur thousands of dollars in attorneys' fees in the process, she's still not the asshole because something something she wanted to make her children come with her.

4. Mom proceeds to complain about how "devastated" she is that she failed to compel everyone to accede to completely upending the status quo in both the parenting relationship with dad and her childrens' lives against their collective wills. But she's not the asshole even though she made the choice to move, and would have put dad in that shitty position over his strong objection and desire to have a strong personal presence in his kids' lives, because she wanted dad to suffer like that instead of herself. Because, hey, like it's totally fair if I impose that on him, but it's totally not cool if it happens to me even if it's the result of my own voluntary decision.

I infer that you lack the ability to empathize with the other people in this situation, in particular the father, and people that have children generally. Similarly, I do not think you can genuinely comprehend why your "logic" and "reasons" that purportedly makes ripping children away from a father that wants and is entitled to a regular, physical presence in their lives - and who don't even want to join this cretinous woman on her jaunt across the country - no big deal.

I mean, it's really not worth the effort to try to get you to understand.
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jramirez23
06/29/19 12:27:05 AM
#60:


I only read the first post so I have no idea how this topic has gone, but I wanted to add that the mom deserves to be happy too, but at the same time you cant blame the kids for hating the long distance travel.

Theres a similar dynamic that happens when a parent dies and the widow or widower wants to look for a significant other again.
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wwinterj25
06/29/19 10:14:08 AM
#61:


jramirez23 posted...
I only read the first post so I have no idea how this topic has gone


- TC asking a question
- Most disagreeing with their opinion
- TC still sticking to their guns

Basically the same as any other GameFAQs topic only less spicy unfortunately.
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LinkPizza
07/02/19 5:27:15 PM
#62:


Trust me, you really dont know enough about me to say whether I should have kids or not. Seems like some people are basing that on this one topic alone. And that already means that its flimsy logic that since I dont agree with one thing that I shouldnt have kids. But no one here even knows the real me. Or really anything about my life except what I tell people. And thats not enough to know me. Its a basic shell of a person. But you can think whatever you want. It doesnt change anything.

jramirez23 posted...
I only read the first post so I have no idea how this topic has gone, but I wanted to add that the mom deserves to be happy too, but at the same time you cant blame the kids for hating the long distance travel.

Theres a similar dynamic that happens when a parent dies and the widow or widower wants to look for a significant other again.

Yeah. I understand the kids not liking it. But I dont think she should have to get divorced. I think she still deserves happiness...

In the end, I still dont think shes an asshole for moving. As for the kids, there was probably a better way to approach and deal with it, though...
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The_tall_midget
07/02/19 8:43:58 PM
#63:


She's a strong, independent woman who made choices and now has to live with it.

Would I say she's an asshole? No. I think the children are reacting poorly, but understandably so. They're at that age where such decisions will obviously be negatively be interpreted by the kids (unless they were raised very, very, very well and are smart cookies).

The thing is, I wouldn't say she's an asshole, but she's responsible for the situation. She made choices and now has to live with them. Strong, independent woman who needs to be held accountable for her actions.
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