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EscapeFromHell
06/23/19 12:30:48 PM
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I just watched the movie "Us" and the characters all use white voice. (We all know what it is without me having to say it, right?)

Anyway, I didn't understand why they were doing it, and it kind of took me out of the atmosphere of the movie; mostly because it was like I could see them acting the whole time, which is never good...

(The movie itself was okay, so I don't have any real complaints about it, other than the acting.)

I mean, I've heard people say wannabes aren't racist, so I guess that would mean white voice isn't racist?

I'm just curious what everyone else thinks.

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spudger
06/23/19 12:32:55 PM
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how were they using white voice?

they were just talking
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VIIVincent
06/23/19 12:33:46 PM
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When you read a book, what voices or accents are you having them sound like? Yeah...
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I4NRulez
06/23/19 12:34:33 PM
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Trust me it's a true thing.

And it's not something people want to do. I was a supervisor in a call center and you dont understand the amount of complaints I took that were along the lines of I couldnt understand their name, they sounded like they were out of the country, they were foreign, etc

And our company was all US based. So it was people who's names were middle eastern or Mexican and they were calling themselves Joe or something.

I wouldn't call it racist but more of an effect of racism
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IMNOTRAGED
06/23/19 12:34:39 PM
#6:


EscapeFromHell posted...
We all know what it is without me having to say it, right?


No, I have not once heard the phrase "white voice" used.

Pls explain
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EscapeFromHell
06/23/19 12:36:02 PM
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16-BITTER posted...
EscapeFromHell posted...
We all know what it is without me having to say it, right?

Afraid not

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5X3cu1B87k" data-time="&start=34

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Squall28
06/23/19 12:36:08 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRZN7IzvCVs" data-time="

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DrizztLink
06/23/19 12:36:42 PM
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I can't tell if people in this topic are being deliberately obtuse.
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fhqwhgads
06/23/19 12:37:12 PM
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Ever seen "sorry to bother you"? I don't think these people saying they've never heard of white voice are being honest.
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Feline_Heart
06/23/19 12:37:15 PM
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Thats just how they talk. Youre being racist by assuming all people of a certain race have to sound the same
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TheVipaGTS
06/23/19 12:39:08 PM
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...they're literally just talking.
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spudger
06/23/19 12:39:16 PM
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its funny how tc's own bias is outing himself xD

you think all black people talk hood?
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EscapeFromHell
06/23/19 12:39:33 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
I can't tell if people in this topic are being deliberately obtuse.

I was starting to think this, too.
fhqwhgads posted...
Ever seen "sorry to bother you"? I don't think these people saying they've never heard of white voice are being honest.

Thank you. :)
Feline_Heart posted...
Thats just how they talk. Youre being racist by assuming all people of a certain race have to sound the same

xD

Bullshit. You got a laugh out of me, but you know you're full of it. xD
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SuperExcitebike
06/23/19 12:40:29 PM
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White voice isn't racist. People legit have to use it in the workplace
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EscapeFromHell
06/23/19 12:40:41 PM
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spudger posted...
its funny how tc's own bias is outing himself xD

you think all black people talk hood?

Nah, but keep trying if it makes you feel good. :)
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Feline_Heart
06/23/19 12:40:44 PM
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Have you seen interviews of the actors? Thats how they talk lol
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SSJ2GrimReaper
06/23/19 12:40:49 PM
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Job interview voice
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Jiek_Fafn
06/23/19 12:41:31 PM
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Context matters
When it's done like Dave Chappelle does it, it's racist or at least racial because it's specifically mocking white people. When it's the Banks children from Fresh Prince then it's not. It's more mimicking rich people in that context.

Also, I personally find both of those instances funny but I can see someone being uppity about it if they're overly sensitive.
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TheVipaGTS
06/23/19 12:42:02 PM
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EscapeFromHell posted...
spudger posted...
its funny how tc's own bias is outing himself xD

you think all black people talk hood?

Nah, but keep trying if it makes you feel good. :)

then why is it so hard for you to believe that that is literally just how they talk? Its not exaggerated or forced in anyway. its just talking.....
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RickyTheBAWSE
06/23/19 12:42:28 PM
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I4NRulez posted...
Trust me it's a true thing.

And it's not something people want to do. I was a supervisor in a call center and you dont understand the amount of complaints I took that were along the lines of I couldnt understand their name, they sounded like they were out of the country, they were foreign, etc

And our company was all US based. So it was people who's names were middle eastern or Mexican and they were calling themselves Joe or something.

I wouldn't call it racist but more of an effect of racism


pretty much. a lot of folk conflate racial with racist, and it makes it obvious when they start calling everything racist lol.

there are those who NEED to believe everything racial that makes them uncomfortable is inherently racist, though. all you can do is point it out to them and hope they have the sense to use that knowledge.
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EscapeFromHell
06/23/19 12:42:54 PM
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SuperExcitebike posted...
White voice isn't racist. People legit have to use it in the workplace

That's what I'm asking - thank you.

If wannabes aren't racist, then white voice isn't racist? Confirmed.

Still, the way the lead guy in the movie spoke... horrible acting. (There were times when his voice was all over the place, so... I guess the actor was the problem and not the "voice.")
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EscapeFromHell
06/23/19 12:44:12 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
EscapeFromHell posted...
spudger posted...
its funny how tc's own bias is outing himself xD

you think all black people talk hood?

Nah, but keep trying if it makes you feel good. :)

then why is it so hard for you to believe that that is literally just how they talk? Its not exaggerated or forced in anyway. its just talking.....

Did you see the movie? The husband was OBVIOUSLY doing a voice. But you can tag me as whatever you want, dude. I'm going to just keep being me.
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spudger
06/23/19 12:45:50 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
EscapeFromHell posted...
spudger posted...
its funny how tc's own bias is outing himself xD

you think all black people talk hood?

Nah, but keep trying if it makes you feel good. :)

then why is it so hard for you to believe that that is literally just how they talk? Its not exaggerated or forced in anyway. its just talking.....

exactly. chappelle doing white voice is very obvious and nothing like how they talk in Us.

i mean short of the director saying he made them do that i have to believe its their normal voices.
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Feline_Heart
06/23/19 12:46:49 PM
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EscapeFromHell posted...
SuperExcitebike posted...
White voice isn't racist. People legit have to use it in the workplace

That's what I'm asking - thank you.

If wannabes aren't racist, then white voice isn't racist? Confirmed.

Still, the way the lead guy in the movie spoke... horrible acting. (There were times when his voice was all over the place, so... I guess the actor was the problem and not the "voice.")

Like I already said

Feline_Heart posted...
Have you seen interviews of the actors? Thats how they talk lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcmdB8Vo6ek" data-time="

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Vol2tex
06/23/19 12:46:54 PM
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I4NRulez posted...
Trust me it's a true thing.

And it's not something people want to do. I was a supervisor in a call center and you dont understand the amount of complaints I took that were along the lines of I couldnt understand their name, they sounded like they were out of the country, they were foreign, etc

And our company was all US based. So it was people who's names were middle eastern or Mexican and they were calling themselves Joe or something.

I wouldn't call it racist but more of an effect of racism


That happened to my brother. He dealt with a lot of wealthy (white) clients on the phone and they couldn't understand his name, so he changed his name to "James" at work. Even his work email has the name James.
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Kaiganeer
06/23/19 12:47:46 PM
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Slaya4
06/23/19 12:48:31 PM
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Wtf is a wannabe? Wannabe white person?
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BeantownHero
06/23/19 12:48:46 PM
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I've never seen Us, but if anyone is denying the existence of White Voice, they're being, at the very least, intellectually dishonest
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Philosopher_X
06/23/19 12:49:35 PM
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Slaya4 posted...
Wtf is a wannabe? Wannabe white person?


That's when I began getting suspicious of TC's intent
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jedisamurai
06/23/19 12:50:20 PM
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I4NRulez posted...
Trust me it's a true thing.

And it's not something people want to do. I was a supervisor in a call center and you dont understand the amount of complaints I took that were along the lines of I couldnt understand their name, they sounded like they were out of the country, they were foreign, etc

And our company was all US based. So it was people who's names were middle eastern or Mexican and they were calling themselves Joe or something.

I wouldn't call it racist but more of an effect of racism


Racism is the wrong word in this situation. Ethnocentric would be more appropriate.

Personally, I have a very hard time understanding Indian accents, to the point where I cant hold the conversation. I'm sure an American who spoke Indian might have a very bad accent in the reverse situation to the point where he could not be understood as well. It's not racism.
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Gamerguymass
06/23/19 12:50:43 PM
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I4NRulez posted...
Trust me it's a true thing.

And it's not something people want to do. I was a supervisor in a call center and you dont understand the amount of complaints I took that were along the lines of I couldnt understand their name, they sounded like they were out of the country, they were foreign, etc

And our company was all US based. So it was people who's names were middle eastern or Mexican and they were calling themselves Joe or something.

I wouldn't call it racist but more of an effect of racism


To be fair it can be hard to understand people of different races/nationalities accent. Some have more or less of an accent depending on the language the person is speaking in and what culture they are from and the person being spoken to.

That is the reason pretty much why so many companies have moved their customer support back to America because they got so many complaints about how no one could understand what the hell people were saying in India were they all used to be. Why do you think they keep advertising "U.S. based customer support" or some variation of in commercials?

Its not a racist thing, for the vast majority anyway, but if you are going to higher people to give customer support to someone in another country in a language that isn't their native tongue then you need to make sure people can actually understand them.
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EscapeFromHell
06/23/19 12:52:54 PM
#33:


Philosopher_X posted...
Slaya4 posted...
Wtf is a wannabe? Wannabe white person?


That's when I began getting suspicious of TC's intent

If you're going to sit there and act like you have no idea what a "wannabe" is, then you're either like 12 years old and know nothing about the 90s &2000s or you're obviously trolling. Either way, I'm not here to educate you on the past. I'm here asking a question which has already been answered to my satisfaction.

Peace.
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Feline_Heart
06/23/19 12:52:57 PM
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I said it was racist to assume that black people were putting on a fake voice if they didnt speak Ebonics, not that doing a white voice was racist
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RickyTheBAWSE
06/23/19 12:53:09 PM
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jedisamurai posted...
I4NRulez posted...
Trust me it's a true thing.

And it's not something people want to do. I was a supervisor in a call center and you dont understand the amount of complaints I took that were along the lines of I couldnt understand their name, they sounded like they were out of the country, they were foreign, etc

And our company was all US based. So it was people who's names were middle eastern or Mexican and they were calling themselves Joe or something.

I wouldn't call it racist but more of an effect of racism


Racism is the wrong word in this situation. Ethnocentric would be more appropriate.

Personally, I have a very hard time understanding Indian accents, to the point where I cant hold the conversation. I'm sure an American who spoke Indian might have a very bad accent in the reverse situation to the point where he could not be understood as well. It's not racism.


you believe American is an ethnicity?
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I4NRulez
06/23/19 12:53:47 PM
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Gamerguymass posted...
Its not a racist thing, for the vast majority anyway, but if you are going to higher people to give customer support to someone in another country in a language that isn't their native tongue then you need to make sure people can actually understand them.


That's the thing, I listened to the calls. Any time someone would complain I would have to pull the call see if the complaint was valid.

They just had an accent. It wasn't a call where i was like "damn, wtf is he saying". They weren't getting complaints all the time either.

A lot would be like "Hey my name is ______" and they would be like "Your name is what? Let me speak to your supervisor"
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Shablagoo
06/23/19 12:55:07 PM
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Im white-looking but have been asked by strangers in my hometown where Im from because of how I talk, lol. I think because I grew up around 99% black/hispanic people.
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RickyTheBAWSE
06/23/19 12:55:56 PM
#38:


Feline_Heart posted...
I said it was racist to assume that black people were putting on a fake voice if they didnt speak Ebonics, not that doing a white voice was racist


they know what you meant. it was deliberately misconstrued.
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Slaya4
06/23/19 12:58:13 PM
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EscapeFromHell posted...
Philosopher_X posted...
Slaya4 posted...
Wtf is a wannabe? Wannabe white person?


That's when I began getting suspicious of TC's intent

If you're going to sit there and act like you have no idea what a "wannabe" is, then you're either like 12 years old and know nothing about the 90s &2000s or you're obviously trolling. Either way, I'm not here to educate you on the past. I'm here asking a question which has already been answered to my satisfaction.

Peace.


So you are talking about "wannabe white" which is showing racism on your part. God forbid black people know how to speak Kings English. Smh.

We all know white voice is a legitimate thing, but being obtuse about your racism and providing your race isn't your saving grace to "not" be a racist.
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RickyTheBAWSE
06/23/19 1:03:07 PM
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"talk White" is something Black people used to be told to do by White people. hell, all Brown people were encouraged to "talk White" and were criticized if they didn't sound "American enough."

even to this day, obviously. TC is disingenuous or just uneducated.
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