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CM_Ponch
06/21/19 12:02:04 PM
#51:


NeonOctopus posted...
Blue_Inigo posted...
They removed the line "I'm so fucked up"

Trash dub tbh

Fucking really!? Why would they do that? That's such an iconic line

They went with the original line instead of the dub line
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AlisLandale
06/21/19 12:08:25 PM
#53:


Captain_Qwark posted...
So is it worth watching if you've never seen the original?


Honestly? Probably. The dub just seems bland, but the writing/directing of the show imo is strong enough that it should shine through a lackluster performance. Its a great story.
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Touch
06/21/19 12:12:04 PM
#54:


kingdrake2 posted...
Touch posted...
I heard this has fan service. Does it have fan service


they removed it all.

What the fuck why
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Carlbertomfg
06/21/19 12:15:12 PM
#55:


Best part of the story was the ending. Really uplifting. Two of the highest concept episodes I've ever seen.
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NeonOctopus
06/21/19 12:25:04 PM
#56:


Carlbertomfg posted...
Best part of the story was the ending. Really uplifting. Two of the highest concept episodes I've ever seen.

Aren't the last 2 episodes literally just storyboard footage cuz they literally ran out of money at that point?
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NeonOctopus
06/21/19 12:25:14 PM
#57:


NeonOctopus posted...
kingdrake2 posted...
Touch posted...
I heard this has fan service. Does it have fan service


they removed it all.

I haven't watched Evangelion but what fan service was there and what did they remove?

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Carlbertomfg
06/21/19 12:27:21 PM
#58:


NeonOctopus posted...
Carlbertomfg posted...
Best part of the story was the ending. Really uplifting. Two of the highest concept episodes I've ever seen.

Aren't the last 2 episodes literally just storyboard footage cuz they literally ran out of money at that point?

It's so much more.

So, so so much.

CONGRATULATIONS!
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AlisLandale
06/21/19 12:29:22 PM
#59:


NeonOctopus posted...
Carlbertomfg posted...
Best part of the story was the ending. Really uplifting. Two of the highest concept episodes I've ever seen.

Aren't the last 2 episodes literally just storyboard footage cuz they literally ran out of money at that point?


Its...a lot of things. Storyboards, stock footage, refused footage from old episodes, live action footage, new original footage...its trippy.

Apparently the budget wasnt so much the problem but the deadlines. The decision to go all weird and philosophical was made halfway through the series and they barely had time to animate when Anno finished the scripts
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SmidgeIsntBack
06/21/19 12:34:35 PM
#60:


The old dub was bad and is largely the cause of people thinking Shinji is whiny.

Shame the new dub apparently is emulating that. Least we got the subs too.
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Carlbertomfg
06/21/19 12:35:10 PM
#61:


AlisLandale posted...
NeonOctopus posted...
Carlbertomfg posted...
Best part of the story was the ending. Really uplifting. Two of the highest concept episodes I've ever seen.

Aren't the last 2 episodes literally just storyboard footage cuz they literally ran out of money at that point?


Its...a lot of things. Storyboards, stock footage, refused footage from old episodes, live action footage, new original footage...its trippy.

Apparently the budget wasnt so much the problem but the deadlines. The decision to go all weird and philosophical was made halfway through the series and they barely had time to animate when Anno finished the scripts

You forgot to mention all the clapping
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NeonOctopus
06/21/19 12:42:07 PM
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AlisLandale
06/21/19 12:43:40 PM
#63:


Carlbertomfg posted...
AlisLandale posted...
NeonOctopus posted...
Carlbertomfg posted...
Best part of the story was the ending. Really uplifting. Two of the highest concept episodes I've ever seen.

Aren't the last 2 episodes literally just storyboard footage cuz they literally ran out of money at that point?


Its...a lot of things. Storyboards, stock footage, refused footage from old episodes, live action footage, new original footage...its trippy.

Apparently the budget wasnt so much the problem but the deadlines. The decision to go all weird and philosophical was made halfway through the series and they barely had time to animate when Anno finished the scripts

You forgot to mention all the clapping


What the hell is this?!
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Raikuro
06/21/19 12:50:09 PM
#64:


Why do people still refer to the tv episodes as "the ending" when End of Evangelion has been a thing for over 2 decades lol
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King_Hellebuyck
06/21/19 12:56:30 PM
#65:


Guess its an anime weekend for me, Ive been binging Death Note (thanks to that topic about it a few days ago) and I guess thisll be next. Hopefully this dub isnt as bad as people are saying, not like the old dub was amazing or anything.
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Thatuser
06/21/19 12:56:54 PM
#66:


Raikuro posted...
Why do people still refer to the tv episodes as "the ending" when End of Evangelion has been a thing for over 2 decades lol

What I was thinking... On rewatches I've skipped the last episode entirely and popped in EoE
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NeonOctopus
06/21/19 1:01:19 PM
#67:


NeonOctopus posted...
NeonOctopus posted...
kingdrake2 posted...
Touch posted...
I heard this has fan service. Does it have fan service


they removed it all.

I haven't watched Evangelion but what fan service was there and what did they remove?

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AlisLandale
06/21/19 1:02:55 PM
#68:


Thatuser posted...
Raikuro posted...
Why do people still refer to the tv episodes as "the ending" when End of Evangelion has been a thing for over 2 decades lol

What I was thinking... On rewatches I've skipped the last episode entirely and popped in EoE


Honestly I think the tv show does the internal aspect a lot better and are worth watching in conjunction with the movie.

But seeing Shinji lose it in the movie and choke Asuka was kinda nutso.
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refmon
06/21/19 1:04:50 PM
#69:


New dub is really bad.
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Thatuser
06/21/19 1:10:16 PM
#70:


AlisLandale posted...
Thatuser posted...
Raikuro posted...
Why do people still refer to the tv episodes as "the ending" when End of Evangelion has been a thing for over 2 decades lol

What I was thinking... On rewatches I've skipped the last episode entirely and popped in EoE


Honestly I think the tv show does the internal aspect a lot better and are worth watching in conjunction with the movie.

But seeing Shinji lose it in the movie and choke Asuka was kinda nutso.

I get that. But EoE is what, like 3 episodes more of actual content and actually ties up the mythos the entire series builds up? First time through, not yet knowing EoE was a thing, I watched the series through and thought what the fuck is this? And not in a "makes you think" kinda way.
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NinjaWarrior455
06/21/19 1:13:59 PM
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I heard they really fucked up the Kaoru and Shinji relationship, like completely changed it.
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WingStopMaster
06/21/19 1:15:16 PM
#72:


Freddie_Mercury posted...
CM_Ponch posted...
New dub


dropped


Its been known from day one that its a new dub.

Pretty sweet btw, time to resub NetFlix
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legendarylemur
06/21/19 1:16:30 PM
#73:


Conglaturations!
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Carlbertomfg
06/21/19 1:27:09 PM
#74:


legendarylemur posted...
Conglaturations!

*clap clap clap*
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Esrac
06/21/19 1:30:00 PM
#75:


DocileOrangeCup posted...
CM_Ponch posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDmvxguplBE" data-time="

LOL


Did they cast Mario to be his Italian VA?
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YookaLaylee
06/21/19 1:38:01 PM
#76:


Raikuro posted...
Why do people still refer to the tv episodes as "the ending" when End of Evangelion has been a thing for over 2 decades lol

I watched the show at the beginning of the year for the first time ever and loved it but when I tried to watch the movies afterwards I couldnt get through it. It just didnt hold my interest and it felt like it wasnt really necessary. So for me the show is the only thing thats canon
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NeonOctopus
06/21/19 1:41:29 PM
#77:


NeonOctopus posted...
kingdrake2 posted...
Touch posted...
I heard this has fan service. Does it have fan service


they removed it all.

I haven't watched Evangelion but what fan service was there and what did they remove?

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AlisLandale
06/21/19 1:49:04 PM
#78:


They may have been joking. I havent heard of any cuts besides Fly Me to the Moon

Fanservice is just camera angles. I know theres one scene where Asuka is doing that whole tsundere bitch leans her spine 90 degrees forward to yell at someone and while the camera focuses on her face, you get a clear shot of some relatively detailed hanging gravity boobs visible through her collar
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SmidgeIsntBack
06/21/19 1:52:02 PM
#79:


NinjaWarrior455 posted...
I heard they really fucked up the Kaoru and Shinji relationship, like completely changed it.


You weren't kidding.

mjuuEAZ

This is both the new dub and the Netflix subs (or dubtitles I guess we can call them at this point). Crazy to think Netflix might be misunderstanding the story harder than the ADV crew.
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NeonOctopus
06/21/19 1:53:25 PM
#80:


AlisLandale posted...
They may have been joking. I havent heard of any cuts besides Fly Me to the Moon

Fanservice is just camera angles. I know theres one scene where Asuka is doing that whole tsundere bitch leans her spine 90 degrees forward to yell at someone and while the camera focuses on her face, you get a clear shot of some relatively detailed hanging gravity boobs visible through her collar

Nice.
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NeonOctopus
06/21/19 4:28:31 PM
#81:


So is it worth watching the dub on Netflix or does the old dub have charm to it that is worth watching
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Ivynn
06/21/19 4:45:16 PM
#82:


NeonOctopus posted...
So is it worth watching the dub on Netflix or does the old dub have charm to it that is worth watching


I think the old dub had a lot of charm, but I haven't watched it in over a decade so I don't how well it's aged. You might as well watch the new one on Netflix since it's there.
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creativerealms
06/21/19 4:50:04 PM
#83:


New dub? Intrigued.
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BlingBling22947
06/21/19 4:54:33 PM
#84:


for you to read

https://www.polygon.com/2019/6/19/18683634/neon-genesis-evangelion-hideaki-anno-depression-shinji-anime-characters-movies
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Le_Corbeau
06/21/19 5:29:28 PM
#85:


Fly me to the Moon,
And let me play among the stars.
Let me see what spring is like
On Jupiter and Mars.
In other words, hold my hand.
In other words, kiss me.

Fill my heart with song,
And let me sing forever more.
You are all I long for,
All I worship and adore!
In other words, please be true!
In other words, I love you!

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Axiom
06/21/19 5:30:44 PM
#86:


Most overrated trash series in anime
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creativerealms
06/21/19 5:34:57 PM
#87:


Axiom posted...
Most overrated trash series in anime

This isn't a Bleach topic.
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legendarylemur
06/21/19 6:16:12 PM
#88:


Le_Corbeau posted...
Fly me to the Moon,
And let me play among the stars.
Let me see what spring is like
On Jupiter and Mars.
In other words, hold my hand.
In other words, kiss me.

Fill my heart with song,
And let me sing forever more.
You are all I long for,
All I worship and adore!
In other words, please be true!
In other words, I love you!

I love you too
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legendarylemur
06/21/19 6:24:07 PM
#89:


In all seriousness, I'm just glad nobody's talking about how Evangelion is super deep or psychedelic or mindfuck-y or whatever. It is to some extent but the overall message of the series, according to Anno himself, is pretty simple. No matter how hard things gets or how screwed up everything seems to be, just never give up and keep on trucking. Shinji is supposed to be antithetical to that stance but then changes by the end of the series where he decides to keep on trucking with the world that he was already given despite everything and everyone that he's lost.

Pretty simple story tbh because everything else, the battles and the dialogues and the imagery, they're all fluff. 90% of the Christian imagery don't actually say anything of value outside of anything that serves as a metaphor for the rapture or the apocalypse, and the kaijus being called angels and going out in a shape of a cross is literally the opposite of subtlety. The characters are cool and all, but all the purpose they serve is to paint a more realistic backdrop to when the rapture happens, while the only ones that really matters are Shinji and his dad, in which Shinji in particular is not fun to watch for most of the series, though serves his purpose in the narrative well.

As a whole though, not something that I would ever call like the greatest anime of all time or even close to it, but it did influence the anime sphere in ways most animes cannot claim to have.
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YellowSUV
06/21/19 7:58:27 PM
#90:


WTF, why have the new VAs imitate the OG English VAs? Might as well of had the OG actors. I bet OG English Asuka would practically work for free in the dub anyway.
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boxington
06/22/19 1:03:40 AM
#91:


I'm on episode 10 or 11, and I'm wondering - will Asuka and Shinji's dad keep being shitty characters, because I don't like either one
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r25
06/22/19 4:55:23 AM
#92:


It's it the og Japanese sub
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CM_Ponch
06/22/19 6:06:20 AM
#93:


boxington posted...
I'm on episode 10 or 11, and I'm wondering - will Asuka and Shinji's dad keep being shitty characters, because I don't like either one

I don't know if Asuka becomes less shitty necessarily, but you get some insight later on
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berlyman101
06/22/19 6:20:02 AM
#94:


r25 posted...
It's it the og Japanese sub


Both options on the flix, new dub though.
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Zikten
06/22/19 3:02:27 PM
#95:


Esrac posted...
DocileOrangeCup posted...
CM_Ponch posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDmvxguplBE" data-time="

LOL


Did they cast Mario to be his Italian VA?

lol it really does sound like Mario when he falls
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CM_Ponch
06/22/19 3:49:48 PM
#96:


Zikten posted...
Esrac posted...
DocileOrangeCup posted...
CM_Ponch posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDmvxguplBE" data-time="

LOL


Did they cast Mario to be his Italian VA?

lol it really does sound like Mario when he falls

It's just Mario's voice edited over the scene...
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BlingBling22947
06/23/19 4:42:48 PM
#97:


I went to bed early to wake up and enjoy it.

Thanks Netflix.

So far, they cleaned up some dumb bits from the old dub, but Im only on the first episode.
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Cheater87
06/23/19 4:50:48 PM
#98:


I heard it was censored.
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kingdrake2
06/23/19 4:52:56 PM
#99:


Cheater87 posted...
I heard it was censored.


it's censored. they removed fan service.
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YellowSUV
06/23/19 4:54:01 PM
#100:


Cheater87 posted...
I heard it was censored.


Besides removing all instances of "Fly me to the Moon" I don't think anything was removed. Some people are saying some dialogue from the third to last episode was changed and "censored", but that whole thing is a translation issue which really has no objective right way to translate just based on how English and Japanese are structured.
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