Current Events > Hollow Knight's world design is... really annoying

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Too many unnecessary roadblocks because I don't have some item from somewhere else

Exploring should be fun and always lead you somewhere interesting and rewarding

Reaching a place I can't do anything with and having to backtrack and go somewhere else only to find another thing I can't do, without having been rewarded much while traveling through these places, is bad game design. What's the point of having a big world to explore if the developers want me to go to specific points in sequence?

Rabi Ribi is still the best "metroidvania" because it avoids this and lets you do anything you want right away.

Seems to me you don't like Metroidvanias.
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Sounds like you should just go back to your gratuitous anime fanservice games if you cant enjoy games that are actually good
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Assuming you're still gonna play it. Be sure to use the map pins for places you need an ability for. I was stuck for a while during my first playthrough because I completely forgot about this one place, and I didn't remember it on the map either when I was looking.
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Meganekko posted...

Too many unnecessary roadblocks because I don't have some item from somewhere else

CyricZ posted...

Seems to me you don't like Metroidvanias

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If you can do anything you want right away it's not a Metroidvania

Gated progression through powerups and items is one of the defining features of the genre
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And if you don't like it, that's fine.
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That's standard for that type of game. Explore, mark areas to come back to, and backtrack later. It's probably not a genre for you.

I always felt extremely lost on where to go next and what to do next. I can play Metroid and the explorative Castlevania games just fine so idk what this game's deal is.
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Meganekko posted...

Rabi Ribi is still the best "metroidvania" because it avoids this and lets you do anything you want right away.

Does it? I remember not being able to reach a lot of areas without specific items and abilities like double jump or wall jump.
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CyricZ posted...

Seems to me you don't like Metroidvanias.

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MarqueeSeries posted...

Gated progression through powerups and items is one of the defining features of the genre

The problem is how it's laid out. If I'm only finding gates and no powerups, it's not fun. If I go through a few rooms of nothing just to find a thing I can't do and have to go back, why not put the gates in a better spot?

In the very first level, I managed to find every single gate, and the LAST spot I went to was finally something I could use to open up just one of those. In the end, it seemed mostly pointless to have those roadblocks all over.

Yamata_Demon posted...

Does it? I remember not being able to reach a lot of areas without specific items and abilities like double jump or wall jump.

Other than the water level requiring a thing, you can get pretty much everywhere with the reverse wall jump that you start with

I loved that. Finding places I can't go is just as exciting to me as finding places I can.

CyricZ posted...

Seems to me you don't like Metroidvanias.

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I like Metroidvanias but the game is weirdly annoying. I hate the map mechanic, and I don't like the jumping feel.
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