Current Events > Gay writer David Gaider says progressives don't compromise like conservatives do

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UnfairRepresent
06/18/19 5:29:18 AM
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The UCP used to be the "Progressive Conservatives", but the days of them being Tory blue are long gone. In desperation, they united with the Wildrose Party - basically a party of right-wing wingnuts - completely compromising whatever they once stood for. Sound familiar?

That's the thing about conservatives almost anywhere. They'll compromise almost anything, close ranks to any perceived threat, in order to win. The progressives, meanwhile? Compromise is a dirty word, and they can't *wait* to attack each other over any perceived impurity.

I tried to explain to my parents that "they're all the same" is exactly what the conservatives want. They lie, and when the other side calls them out, they want it to seem like "they're just arguing". So they keep lying, so the other side looks like hysterical reactionaries.

Not everyone sits on Twitter to listen to the nuance in every argument, for instance. My parents certainly don't. I think I convinced them, in the end, but the polls say Alberta is headed back to conservative control. The idea their tactics work wonderfully makes me... very sad.

Part of me wishes us progressives could learn a few lessons on compromise. I have this sinking feeling, however, that, as a group, we just won't. Maybe not until it's far too late.

I know that's heresy talk, of course. It's all or nothing, in liberal circles, which may end up meaning... nothing. I guess I just hate the idea that my beloved Canada is as vulnerable to this thinking as any other country.

Someone forwarded me a new article today, and I made the mistake of reading it and now I'm just kind of depressed and want to go back to bed for a couple of days.

Last night a dear friend cheered me up by bringing wine and Korean fried chicken, while we watched Killing Eve and American Gods. It was good. It worked.


~ David Gaider.

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pogo_rabid
06/18/19 5:57:04 AM
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Shame the hildog supporters couldn't compromise. Now we have president trump.

Thanks guys. Good job.
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Blue_Dream87
06/18/19 6:24:07 AM
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Maybe in the UK, but in the US too many progressives are so complicit with capitalism that they'll compromise to keep their status of privilege. Conservatives, while shitty, at least stand by and commit to their ideals instead of teasing "progressive" ideals but meet halfway to keep their own status quo
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DevsBro
06/18/19 7:08:27 AM
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I mean, if you don't compromise when you vote, you probably have no business voting.
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UnfairRepresent
06/19/19 1:09:05 PM
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DevsBro posted...
I mean, if you don't compromise when you vote, you probably have no business voting.

wtf does this even mean
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darkphoenix181
06/19/19 1:15:03 PM
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Religions usually say you cannot compromise because that would be violating God's perfect absolute will and authority.
You cannot be wrong since God has made you right. This also means anyone in disagreement is wrong.
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FL81
06/19/19 1:17:45 PM
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Blue_Dream87 posted...
but in the US too many progressives are so complicit with capitalism that they'll compromise to keep their status of privilege.

If anything, the Democrats are more pro-capitalist these days than the pro-Trump Republicans

might have to vote dem in 2020
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Patty_Fleur
06/19/19 1:19:24 PM
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Can someone explain what the man is trying to say exactly in the article? I dont feel I understand it.
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HylianFox
06/19/19 1:20:25 PM
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this topic should be deleted for being misleading
>_>

it's not about AMERICAN conservatives and progressives, which are quite different from UK's
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DevsBro
06/19/19 1:21:15 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
DevsBro posted...
I mean, if you don't compromise when you vote, you probably have no business voting.

wtf does this even mean

For officials, I mean.

Suppose there are ten important issues. If you have convictions, odds are you don't agree with either candidate on all ten, which means compromising.

If you don't, you picked your candidate with garbage reasoning like what party they are running for, their demographic, etc, and you really have no business voting.
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UnfairRepresent
06/19/19 2:06:14 PM
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HylianFox posted...
this topic should be deleted for being misleading
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it's not about AMERICAN conservatives and progressives, which are quite different from UK's


Who mentioned the UK?
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Insanititious
06/19/19 2:14:20 PM
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David Gaider, more like David Gay-durrrr
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