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TheDyslexicGuy
06/12/19 7:52:34 PM
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They don't even vote on the dispute, it just allows the original moderator to uphold the moderation with no accountability
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NES4EVER
06/12/19 7:53:20 PM
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Ohhhhhhhh

Thanks man! I'd been confused myself but this really clears things up for me.
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0xDEFECADE
06/12/19 7:54:10 PM
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Mark, the mod staff has spoken. It's time for you to go.
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TheDyslexicGuy
06/12/19 7:54:48 PM
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NES4EVER posted...
Ohhhhhhhh

Thanks man! I'd been confused myself but this really clears things up for me.

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Doom_Art
06/12/19 7:55:38 PM
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I had a moderation overturned under the new system

Maybe you're just doing it wrong
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TheDyslexicGuy
06/12/19 7:56:37 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
I had a moderation overturned under the new system

Maybe you're just doing it wrong

Proof?
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TreyFlowers
06/12/19 7:57:04 PM
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I'd like a response given when the dispute is upheld, but other than a voting system is cool by me.
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CedarPointcp
06/12/19 7:57:55 PM
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TreyFlowers posted...
I'd like a response given when the dispute is upheld, but other than a voting system is cool by me.

so they don't give typed out responses why anymore?
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LordRazziel
06/12/19 7:58:04 PM
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Troll account
Move along
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TheDyslexicGuy
06/12/19 7:58:31 PM
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TreyFlowers posted...
I'd like a response given when the dispute is upheld, but other than a voting system is cool by me.

There won't be because the original mod just comes in and clicks uphold without having to explain anything, making their job easier meanwhile the whole time you're thinking that the mod team is examining your mod dispute and they are not.
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TreyFlowers
06/12/19 7:58:37 PM
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CedarPointcp posted...
TreyFlowers posted...
I'd like a response given when the dispute is upheld, but other than a voting system is cool by me.

so they don't give typed out responses why anymore?


I disputed two since the new system and didn't get a response.

I posted on Hellhole about them and got responses though.
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NES4EVER
06/12/19 7:58:55 PM
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CedarPointcp posted...
TreyFlowers posted...
I'd like a response given when the dispute is upheld, but other than a voting system is cool by me.

so they don't give typed out responses why anymore?


Nope.
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CedarPointcp
06/12/19 7:59:44 PM
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NES4EVER posted...
CedarPointcp posted...
TreyFlowers posted...
I'd like a response given when the dispute is upheld, but other than a voting system is cool by me.

so they don't give typed out responses why anymore?


Nope.

why not? seems like they should , just to give their reasoning as to why it was upheld
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TreyFlowers
06/12/19 8:00:34 PM
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CedarPointcp posted...
NES4EVER posted...
CedarPointcp posted...
TreyFlowers posted...
I'd like a response given when the dispute is upheld, but other than a voting system is cool by me.

so they don't give typed out responses why anymore?


Nope.

why not? seems like they should , just to give their reasoning as to why it was upheld


I mean given the mod staff vote on it, it'd be hard to do so as there'd be heaps of reasonings as to why it was upheld, or mods who vote to overturn it.
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ShutThe_F---_UP
06/12/19 8:00:50 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
I had a moderation overturned under the new system

Maybe you're just doing it wrong


Same here. It was a warning too
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TheDyslexicGuy
06/12/19 8:01:32 PM
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TreyFlowers posted...
CedarPointcp posted...
NES4EVER posted...
CedarPointcp posted...
TreyFlowers posted...
I'd like a response given when the dispute is upheld, but other than a voting system is cool by me.

so they don't give typed out responses why anymore?


Nope.

why not? seems like they should , just to give their reasoning as to why it was upheld


I mean given the mod staff vote on it

No, they don't.
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TheDyslexicGuy
06/12/19 8:01:44 PM
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ShutThe_F---_UP posted...
Doom_Art posted...
I had a moderation overturned under the new system

Maybe you're just doing it wrong


Same here. It was a warning too

Proof, Rookie User?
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Freddie_Mercury
06/12/19 8:02:50 PM
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I had one mod overturned without disputing

I had another where they didn't even give a reason for the original mod then upheld the dispute without replying
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CedarPointcp
06/12/19 8:03:08 PM
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TreyFlowers posted...
CedarPointcp posted...
NES4EVER posted...
CedarPointcp posted...
TreyFlowers posted...
I'd like a response given when the dispute is upheld, but other than a voting system is cool by me.

so they don't give typed out responses why anymore?


Nope.

why not? seems like they should , just to give their reasoning as to why it was upheld


I mean given the mod staff vote on it, it'd be hard to do so as there'd be heaps of reasonings as to why it was upheld, or mods who vote to overturn it.

how does it work, does the screen say like, final tally: 10 votes to uphold 3 to overturn? and that's it?
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ShutThe_F---_UP
06/12/19 8:03:19 PM
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Obviously it was on my main. I'll post it when I get home
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Guide
06/12/19 8:03:25 PM
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I got two overturned in the same week, though this was just before the new system. New mods are overeager, but also more reasonable.
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Deathjester
06/12/19 8:05:58 PM
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Why would you think the original mod votes on the dispute? They're the one that modded the post in the first place. It's other mods that decide whether or not they agree with the original mod's decision.
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powerz
06/12/19 8:13:44 PM
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CedarPointcp posted...
just to give their reasoning as to why it was upheld

I'd assume the reason things are upheld is because they're violations. What more reasoning is needed?
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ShutThe_F---_UP
06/12/19 8:14:18 PM
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Deathjester posted...
Why would you think the original mod votes on the dispute? They're the one that modded the post in the first place. It's other mods that decide whether or not they agree with the original mod's decision.


Because TC is butthurt that he got a moderation upheld and can't wrap his head around other people agreeing with it
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r25
06/12/19 9:15:55 PM
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If someone were to ask me if Gamefaqs message boards is a good place to create an account, I would warn them about the mods.
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Lairen
06/12/19 9:18:28 PM
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They dont have to give reasons/notes at all and theres no second level dispute or any way to know if anyone else actually voted on it.

Just make alts or suck it up.
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RoboLaserGandhi
06/12/19 9:20:39 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
I had a moderation overturned under the new system

Maybe you're just doing it wrong

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Cornmuffins
06/12/19 9:21:06 PM
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Maybe if you cry more things will change
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Gamerguymass
06/12/19 9:29:00 PM
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powerz posted...
CedarPointcp posted...
just to give their reasoning as to why it was upheld

I'd assume the reason things are upheld is because they're violations. What more reasoning is needed?


Because most ofmthe time it's not clear why it is a violation. A good chunk of the moderations, especially on the Politics and Current Events boards, are just because you went against some mod's political beliefs. There is a lot of bias on those boards when it comes to modding. Then they just give the general heading of Flaming/Trolling/Offensive/ etc even though what you said doesn't fit into any of the sub categories for one of those reasons.

Hence why they need to give a reason as to why it was a violation. Imagine if the police came and arrested you and you said what did I do and they just ignored you and wouldn't tell you. Then when you went to trial the just said you were wrong/guilty and punished you but refused to tell you how or why you did something wrong and that was that. Now you know why people want an explanation more then just "violation because we said so."
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Lairen
06/12/19 9:30:42 PM
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Imagine of the site didnt care that you have 7 alts and switch to another any time you get modded.
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CedarPointcp
06/12/19 9:51:56 PM
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Gamerguymass posted...
powerz posted...
CedarPointcp posted...
just to give their reasoning as to why it was upheld

I'd assume the reason things are upheld is because they're violations. What more reasoning is needed?


Because most ofmthe time it's not clear why it is a violation. A good chunk of the moderations, especially on the Politics and Current Events boards, are just because you went against some mod's political beliefs. There is a lot of bias on those boards when it comes to modding. Then they just give the general heading of Flaming/Trolling/Offensive/ etc even though what you said doesn't fit into any of the sub categories for one of those reasons.

Hence why they need to give a reason as to why it was a violation. Imagine if the police came and arrested you and you said what did I do and they just ignored you and wouldn't tell you. Then when you went to trial the just said you were wrong/guilty and punished you but refused to tell you how or why you did something wrong and that was that. Now you know why people want an explanation more then just "violation because we said so."

yeah no shit , obviously. Dude thought he knew what he was talking about
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powerz
06/12/19 9:58:09 PM
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It isn't that hard to follow the rules lol. Insults are flaming, antagonizing or baiting people is trolling, offensive should be obvious. Most other sites don't even give you any disputes at all.
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TheDyslexicGuy
06/12/19 9:59:58 PM
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powerz posted...
It isn't that hard to follow the rules lol. Insults are flaming, antagonizing or baiting people is trolling, offensive should be obvious. Most other sites don't even give you any disputes at all.

It is when mods have a hard-on for you and mod you over things that aren't even violations. And mods all stick together and have a ganglike mentality.
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RoboLaserGandhi
06/12/19 10:00:13 PM
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powerz posted...
It isn't that hard to follow the rules lol. Insults are flaming, antagonizing or baiting people is trolling, offensive should be obvious. Most other sites don't even give you any disputes at all.

The rules are intentionally vague so the mods can interpret them as they personally want.

Makes it hard to follow something not set in stone.

They also run contrary to the natural flow of conversation some time. Flaming is any negative noun or adjective. Offensive is entirely subjective. Trolling is posting anything "wrong" with the mod's discretion as to what your "real" intentions were.
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Cornmuffins
06/12/19 10:02:27 PM
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Oh you're one of those "mods are out to get me" ppl

lmao
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LightningAce11
06/12/19 10:04:50 PM
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No, it's good. I got to talk about Tony Stark freely after endgame.
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TheDyslexicGuy
06/12/19 10:05:24 PM
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Conflict posted...
This guy gets a moderation upheld once and he thinks the whole website is out to get him

lol once? 9/10 moderations are upheld. And the ones that get overturned are only because the mod was in a hurry and clicked the wrong thing
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sobergermanguy
06/12/19 10:09:59 PM
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powerz posted...
It isn't that hard to follow the rules lol. Insults are flaming, antagonizing or baiting people is trolling, offensive should be obvious. Most other sites don't even give you any disputes at all.

Says the novice user
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