Current Events > YouTube's purge of white supremacist videos also hits anti-racist content

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Antifar
06/07/19 11:32:53 AM
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https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-tn-youtube-hate-extremism-20190606-story.html

YouTubes campaign against hateful and racist videos is claiming some unintended victims: researchers and advocates working to expose racist hatemongers.

A video published by the Southern Poverty Law Center was among those taken down after the company announced plans Wednesday to remove more videos and channels that advocate white supremacy.

The civil rights advocacy group received an email notification early Thursday that a video of journalist Max Blumenthal interviewing prominent British Holocaust denier David Irving was removed from the SPLCs YouTube channel.

We know that this might be disappointing, but its important to us that YouTube is a safe place for all. If content breaks our rules, we remove it, YouTube said in the email.

A video channel tied to Cal State San Bernardinos Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism also disappeared from YouTube, the centers director, Brian Levin, said. YouTube declined to confirm whether the dozen or more academic videos were removed as part of the recent crackdown, but after the Los Angeles Times inquired, it said Thursday that it had reinstated the channel.

YouTubes moves to start banning content promoting bigotry were positive and well-intended, but the execution has been botched, Levin said

Artificial intelligence has not been honed to the level where it can distinguish between content that is promoting the most odious bigotry, and that which is reporting and analyzing it, he said.

That organizations working to raise awareness of hate speech may have been casualties of an effort to reduce the spread of hate speech was not surprising to Heidi Beirich, director of the SPLCs Intelligence Project. That kind of ironic collateral damage has often resulted from tech companies efforts to police their platforms with software that relies on keywords and other ambiguous signals, backed up by human moderators.

Another anti-racist group, One Peoples Project, had an informational video removed from its YouTube page after Wednesdays policy change, according to a report by the Daily Beast. A high school history teacher and a South African blogger were among others affected while attempting to counter white supremacy.

It indicates that they have not refined well enough the difference between someone who is exploring issues of racism and hatred and someone whos promoting it, Beirich said.

Other large internet platforms have fallen prey to the same types of errors. Trying to curb anti-gay posts, Facebook accidentally censored posts by LGBT users who use terms such as queer. Last year, some LGBTQ creators on YouTube raised concerns about their content being hidden, restricted to adult users or demonetized by the company, the Verge reported.

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Romulox28
06/07/19 11:33:37 AM
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lol, tattletales btfo
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NinjaBreakfast
06/07/19 11:34:23 AM
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now this is radical centrism!
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Questionmarktarius
06/07/19 11:35:31 AM
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It's somehow racist now to not be racist.
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Jiek_Fafn
06/07/19 11:39:25 AM
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They're still better than gamefaqs mods.
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AlecSkorpio
06/07/19 11:40:13 AM
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Sounds like a typical youtube algorithm
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DarkChozoGhost
06/07/19 11:45:04 AM
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Expected. Hopefully that can be fixed
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Hop103
06/07/19 11:48:59 AM
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I knew the far left wouldn't last long, YT wants to be like cable, cable is establishment and thus you have to get rid of the far left eventually, it's the rules.
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darkphoenix181
06/07/19 11:52:50 AM
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Antifar posted...
The civil rights advocacy group received an email notification early Thursday that a video of journalist Max Blumenthal interviewing prominent British Holocaust denier David Irving was removed from the SPLCs YouTube channel.


Antifar posted...
Artificial intelligence has not been honed to the level where it can distinguish between content that is promoting the most odious bigotry, and that which is reporting and analyzing it, he said.


It is like the copyright system.

It doesn't matter if you are parodying a video, just having part of a clip is enough to get your revenue stolen.
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Quorthon109
06/07/19 11:57:25 AM
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I've only ever followed a handful of Youtube channels, mostly gaming and artists, and most of whom have abandoned it. Can't say I blame them.
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The Admiral
06/08/19 9:29:27 AM
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Antifar posted...
A video published by the Southern Poverty Law Center was among those taken down


Good
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Jagr_68
06/08/19 9:30:03 AM
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Youtube - "BOTH. SIDES!"

ugh
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Shuto-uke
06/08/19 9:32:02 AM
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NinjaBreakfast posted...
now this is radical centrism!


it's youtube's version of BoTh SiDeS
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Shuto-uke
06/08/19 9:35:36 AM
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The Admiral posted...
Antifar posted...
A video published by the Southern Poverty Law Center was among those taken down


Good


LMAO

You probably want the cheerios commercial taken down too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbWeH9cztHw" data-time="


Jagr_68 posted...
Youtube - "BOTH. SIDES!"

ugh


beat me by a minute lol
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nemu
06/08/19 9:37:17 AM
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Automated censorship is stupid. I get that the community is colossal, but just pressing a kill everything button in an attempt to appease whatever imaginary audience the mainstream media is pretending exists is stupid.
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Shuto-uke
06/09/19 11:55:51 AM
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bump
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Torrific
06/09/19 12:00:29 PM
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Purge them all.
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Zikten
06/09/19 12:02:59 PM
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Torrific posted...
Purge them all.

you didn't read the topic did you
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Prestoff
06/09/19 12:05:02 PM
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Carlos Maza's fault. Adpocalypse 4.0
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Shuto-uke
06/09/19 12:23:31 PM
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Prestoff posted...
Carlos Maza's fault. Adpocalypse 4.0


how dare he get threatened? lol
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Prestoff
06/10/19 12:22:07 AM
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Shuto-uke posted...
Prestoff posted...
Carlos Maza's fault. Adpocalypse 4.0


how dare he get threatened? lol


By having some loud mouth conservative calling him names? Very threatening indeed, many innocent channels are going to suffer because of this guy's bitching.
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eggcorn
06/10/19 12:31:23 AM
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take it all down fuck it
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Zikten
06/10/19 12:33:04 AM
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eggcorn posted...
take it all down fuck it

You leave OneyPlays the fuck alone
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Bad_Mojo
06/10/19 1:00:57 AM
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HOw about YouTube just let people have the freedom to say what they want and let the Down Vote system weed out the bad videos? I fucking HATE censorship of free speech
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StickFigures720
06/10/19 1:19:37 AM
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Considering that YouTube uses bots more often times than not, and that bots can malfunction, I can expect this to go south real fast
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Shuto-uke
06/10/19 9:58:28 AM
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Prestoff posted...
Shuto-uke posted...
Prestoff posted...
Carlos Maza's fault. Adpocalypse 4.0


how dare he get threatened? lol


By having some loud mouth conservative calling him names? Very threatening indeed, many innocent channels are going to suffer because of this guy's bitching.


no, by getting fucking death threats
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Kolibri X
06/10/19 11:15:56 AM
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Corporate bootlickers clapped for this. Bad day for free speech on the internet.
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C_Pain
06/10/19 11:16:39 AM
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good
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King_Hellebuyck
06/10/19 11:18:37 AM
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The Admiral posted...
Antifar posted...
A video published by the Southern Poverty Law Center was among those taken down


Good

Its always incredible when I know Ive read the dumbest post of the day before noon
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Questionmarktarius
06/10/19 1:09:05 PM
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First they came for Spiderman & Elsa, and I did not speak out - because I was not Spiderman & Elsa...
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Prestoff
06/10/19 1:39:09 PM
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Shuto-uke posted...
Prestoff posted...
Shuto-uke posted...
Prestoff posted...
Carlos Maza's fault. Adpocalypse 4.0


how dare he get threatened? lol


By having some loud mouth conservative calling him names? Very threatening indeed, many innocent channels are going to suffer because of this guy's bitching.


no, by getting fucking death threats


Everyone, even Stephen Crowder, gets death threats especially when you talk about controversial things in public.
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Sativa_Rose
06/11/19 11:13:08 PM
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No one should be shocked by this. They can't afford to manually review all this crap, and the technology to automate this stuff is still very primitive.

This is the obvious consequence of constantly screaming about how a platform isn't removing people you don't like.
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Solar_Crimson
06/11/19 11:17:21 PM
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It's rather amazing that some people ITT are celebrating videos that are against racism being taken down.
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CADE FOSTER
06/11/19 11:34:02 PM
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Shuto-uke posted...
The Admiral posted...
Antifar posted...
A video published by the Southern Poverty Law Center was among those taken down


Good


LMAO

You probably want the cheerios commercial taken down too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbWeH9cztHw" data-time="


Jagr_68 posted...
Youtube - "BOTH. SIDES!"

ugh


beat me by a minute lol

Alt right champion Admiral smh
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aki_sora
06/15/19 6:29:33 AM
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Rip free speech
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RoboLaserGandhi
06/15/19 6:43:01 AM
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>LA Times
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