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andel
06/06/19 5:02:30 PM
#51:


toadfan64 posted...
If it's not Sanders, Warren, Gabbard, or Yang, I'll be voting 3rd party again. Pretty sure even Gary Johnson is more left leaning than Biden, lmao.

I don't owe the Dems shit, and the only reason I'm even registered a Democrat is because I can't vote in the Primary if I'm not. Bullshit stuff


wut? gabbard is a right winger
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ThyCorndog
06/06/19 5:31:34 PM
#52:


andel posted...
toadfan64 posted...
If it's not Sanders, Warren, Gabbard, or Yang, I'll be voting 3rd party again. Pretty sure even Gary Johnson is more left leaning than Biden, lmao.

I don't owe the Dems shit, and the only reason I'm even registered a Democrat is because I can't vote in the Primary if I'm not. Bullshit stuff


wut? gabbard is a right winger

no she's not lol. she's more of a leftist than most of the current field
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andel
06/06/19 5:36:20 PM
#53:


ThyCorndog posted...
andel posted...
toadfan64 posted...
If it's not Sanders, Warren, Gabbard, or Yang, I'll be voting 3rd party again. Pretty sure even Gary Johnson is more left leaning than Biden, lmao.

I don't owe the Dems shit, and the only reason I'm even registered a Democrat is because I can't vote in the Primary if I'm not. Bullshit stuff


wut? gabbard is a right winger

no she's not lol. she's more of a leftist than most of the current field


not at all. she is extremely regressive and right wing on everything foreign policy related and gay rights. she has a couple of left positions but generally she is way too far right, especially for hawaii
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Anteaterking
06/06/19 5:40:36 PM
#54:


andel posted...
she is extremely regressive and right wing on everything foreign policy related and gay rights


Did you mean to write gay rights?
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dj1200
06/06/19 5:40:37 PM
#55:


scorpion41 posted...
Biden the creeper? Nah...


Trump is a creeper too imo.
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ElatedVenusaur
06/06/19 5:42:34 PM
#56:


ThyCorndog posted...
andel posted...
toadfan64 posted...
If it's not Sanders, Warren, Gabbard, or Yang, I'll be voting 3rd party again. Pretty sure even Gary Johnson is more left leaning than Biden, lmao.

I don't owe the Dems shit, and the only reason I'm even registered a Democrat is because I can't vote in the Primary if I'm not. Bullshit stuff


wut? gabbard is a right winger

no she's not lol. she's more of a leftist than most of the current field

The same Tulsi Gabbard who pals around with Assad and Modi and until recently supported conversion therapy for LGBT people? The one who apparently wanted a job in the Trump administration? Something tells me her views on social policy are pretty bad, whatever she claims publicly.
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Umbreon
06/06/19 5:45:01 PM
#57:


MarqueeSeries posted...
We shouldn't be willing to settle for good enough, just because our current president is trash

Any country that is willing to settle deserves a president like Trump


Perfect is the enemy of good.

I agree we shouldn't settle, but "good enough" beats nothing at all.
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Cheater87
06/06/19 5:45:43 PM
#58:


They said the same thing about Clinton.
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The Admiral
06/06/19 5:47:48 PM
#59:


MarqueeSeries posted...
We shouldn't be willing to settle for good enough, just because our current president is trash

Any country that is willing to settle deserves a president like Trump


You might want to lose the self-righteousness after realizing that another 4 years of Trump will all but ensure a solid conservative Supreme Court for half of your adult life.

If that isnt a reason to settle, I question what your values are.
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nativengine
06/06/19 5:50:49 PM
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Trump is getting a second term dems, just accept it
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andel
06/06/19 5:51:24 PM
#61:


Anteaterking posted...
andel posted...
she is extremely regressive and right wing on everything foreign policy related and gay rights


Did you mean to write gay rights?


yes, she has been notoriously right wing on gay rights and to the right of practically every democrat on the issue
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ThyCorndog
06/06/19 5:56:47 PM
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she wasn't any worse on gay rights than most other democrats. she's changed her stance on it. obama wasn't for gay marriage until he was, either.. she's not my first choice (bernie is) but she's a solid second choice because she wants a lot of the same things bernie wants
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Anteaterking
06/06/19 6:06:04 PM
#63:


andel posted...
yes, she has been notoriously right wing on gay rights and to the right of practically every democrat on the issue


Oh oops, I thought you said "everything EXCEPT".
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andel
06/06/19 6:37:20 PM
#64:


ThyCorndog posted...
she wasn't any worse on gay rights than most other democrats. she's changed her stance on it. obama wasn't for gay marriage until he was, either.. she's not my first choice (bernie is) but she's a solid second choice because she wants a lot of the same things bernie wants


comparing her to other democrats on the issue is disingenuous. she supported extremely deplorable things like conversion therapy, not just positions like the majority of the party and her foreign policy stances are extremely right wing and even worse than some republicans
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ThyCorndog
06/06/19 6:50:25 PM
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how is her foreign policy right wing when she's anti war?
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UnholyMudcrab
06/06/19 6:51:27 PM
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Gabbard is the candidate that Trump supporters point to when they're asked to name a Democrat that they like. That by itself should be a strong indication that she belongs nowhere near the nomination.
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Antifar
06/06/19 7:18:15 PM
#67:


ThyCorndog posted...
how is her foreign policy right wing when she's anti war?

Her anti-war bonafides are blown way out of proportion.

https://arcdigital.media/tulsi-gabbard-is-not-anti-war-660e7d1e4ce1
In one of her first acts as a congresswoman, Gabbard broke with the Democratic Party to support a GOP funding bill because, as she explained at the time, it provides important funds for our men and women serving overseas [and] our military-related jobs in Hawaii.

She has stated on numerous occasions that she supports expanding the use of drone strikes against military opponents, and, in 2014, refused to rule out the idea of using torture on suspected terrorists. Gabbard also spoke out vehemently against the Iran nuclear deal when it was first proposed by President Obama.

Her hawkish foreign policy stance has earned praise from Republicans and placed her in the company of neoconservative figures like Dick Cheney and and Bill Kristol. The associations arent by happenstanceshes been invited to events held by right-wing think tanks like the American Enterprise Institute and frequently appears on right-wing news networks like Fox News.

In a 2016 interview, Gabbard told the Hawaii Tribune-Herald that when it comes to the war against terrorists, Im a hawk.

This is how she justifies her support for military operations like Russias years-long bombing campaign in Syria.

When Russia launched its brutal bombing campaign on September 30, 2015, Gabbard tweeted her support for the bloody offensive, writing: Bad enough U.S. has not been bombing al-Qaeda/al-Nusra in Syria. But its mind-boggling that we protest Russias bombing of these terrorists.

She followed up the next day with a tweet condemning President Obama and praising Putin: Al-Qaeda attacked us on 9/11 and must be defeated. Obama wont bomb them in Syria. Putin did.


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LethalAffinity
06/07/19 1:57:17 AM
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Biden sucks ass. If you have any principles and want a progressive you need to vote Sanders.
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hockeybub89
06/07/19 2:03:04 AM
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I mean, fucking Hillary almost won and even got the popular vote.

How hard is it to be better than Hillary?
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TennTux
06/07/19 2:05:51 AM
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Are you really as far left as they come TC? I never see you preach about communism like some other communists on the board
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hockeybub89
06/07/19 2:06:06 AM
#71:


The Admiral posted...
MarqueeSeries posted...
We shouldn't be willing to settle for good enough, just because our current president is trash

Any country that is willing to settle deserves a president like Trump


You might want to lose the self-righteousness after realizing that another 4 years of Trump will all but ensure a solid conservative Supreme Court for half of your adult life.

If that isnt a reason to settle, I question what your values are.

Let's at least get to the general before we start shaming people into settling.
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solosnake
06/07/19 2:10:58 AM
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lol, if biden is really the best the democrats got after 4 years then its already over. Just give Trump another 4 years already
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DezDroppedFreak
06/07/19 2:16:05 AM
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Damn weve really learned nothing from 2016 huh
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