Board 8 > WWE Mafia 4: Tell me he didn't just say that

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Last post of the day for me. I gotta focus on this thing

Just going with my first gut

##unvote
##vote: Tom

Good luck have fun

UltimaterializerX posted...

Pez, opinion on Tom?

My opinion hasn't changed. I think he's probably town. I refer back to whatever post I analyzed his Corrik thing most recently. The play could've been done as scum or as town. But most likely happens on the scum board first and probably therefore never makes it to actual game.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Is there a DND discord where we can go verify they're actually there?

there's a channel on the b8 discord that I assumed was them but that appears to be a different group

nonetheless I doubt they're actually all three scum or that one or two of them would be getting away with lying about it on their own <_<
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turbopuns3 posted...

I'm finishing up dinner right now at then installing a window unit air conditioner.

Could lynch

Sbell
Tom
Scare

turbopuns3 posted...

Last post of the day for me. I gotta focus on this thing

Just going with my first gut

##unvote
##vote: Tom

Good luck have fun

I think you picked the wrong one of the three. I'd be happier if you had picked either of the other two.
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Pez, is red town still?
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Tom Bombadil posted...

sorry for what

pezloco posted...

Yes, Han said that. And then a bit later said things changed and they would probably miss it.

convenient

let's all go to the dnd channel and glare at them (let's not actually do that)
wait they're not in the dnd channel BURN THEM ALL (don't actually do that well maybe but not for that reason)

Is there a DND discord where we can go verify they're actually there?

(Obviously we will not interfere or harass anyone. Just verifying.)

Is that legal? Feels a little sketchy to me.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Why yes I think the guy I currently have a vote on could be scum.

Oh. I'm getting mixed up with these votals lol

The point I'm getting at is why you're talking about trusting Tom's read when you don't trust Tom to begin with
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Obellisk posted...

pezloco posted...

pezloco posted...

Obellisk posted...

UltimaterializerX posted...

Hey Stu.

Odds of a Han/Puns team?

I could see it. Han has been particularly belligerent.

Han is town.

Go read post 265 in topic 3. Han is town.

This post is not well founded. Just as death didn't "read his pm properly" a scum Han could have done the same. And they both could have gone back and saw their mistakes and been like "oh shit, I'm sorry."

Yes for Death that's true. But the order of the posts doesn't make sense if Han is scum. Scum Han would've had to plan both the confirmed town post and then the post minutes later that says, oh wait scum probably had the same format but stuff switched. Very unlikely gambit for a scum to make.
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Or it was never a gambit and just a well escaped fuck up.
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I don't super like getting voted but if I am gonna vote a guy who's not around I think I'd rather it be igcd or scare
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Obellisk posted...

Pez, is red town still?

Red has made exactly one post that makes me think he might be town. But I generally don't lynch Red D1. I wouldn't stop a lynch train on him. But I wouldn't expect I'd vote for him either.
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##Unvote
##Vote: SBell

IGCD is an easy target for sure but the fact that you and Tom jumped so easy let's me know a lot about you.

Sorry been meaning to post this for like 20 minutes but my son kept making me read him books lol
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I won't lynch IGCD today. Pretty sure he's town
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Scare?
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Obellisk posted...

Or it was never a gambit and just a well escaped fuck up.

Then why would Han have thought that what Death said "confirmed" him? The order of the posts only makes sense if Han is town. Death could go either way. I originally thought Death was likely town because of what he said. Which is why I said a few times I wouldn't vote him D1. Then I reread it a couple of times. Death as scum can easily make that post. Han as scum doesn't make that post, unless he and Death contrived all the posts together. I find that highly unlikely. Ergo, Han is town is my strongest read. Even stronger than thinking Tom is town.
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eaedwards6400 posted...

##Unvote
##Vote: SBell

IGCD is an easy target for sure but the fact that you and Tom jumped so easy let's me know a lot about you.

Sorry been meaning to post this for like 20 minutes but my son kept making me read him books lol

I know what it's like to have to take care of the kids. No apologies necessary

I don't see the connection between Tom and myself. And I don't think he is an easy target. And I still expect him to show himself.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

I'll trust his roommate, especially with that sketchy Puns appearance + vote.

Kill Puns with me. It'll be fun.

His response to you when you talked activity was way too genuine. Scum Puns might play it cool or decide you were being a dick so he'd be a dick in return, but he seemed seriously agitated by the fact that you were going with that line of attack. Like, look at his logic in saying you were getting mixed up about suspecting his past self. Does that come from a place of clear thought? Puns isn't going to get flustered as scum by talking shit about activity, he's been around long enough to know better. He doesn't make that post unless he's seriously tilted by the idea that you thought that was a good argument.

He's done some other stuff I liked anyway. He's the only person that raised much of a point in defense on MZero and didn't like SBell scouting for who he thought was a b8 special candidate, which is good because I didn't like that shit either.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

pezloco posted...

Obellisk posted...

pezloco posted...

pezloco posted...

Obellisk posted...

UltimaterializerX posted...

Hey Stu.

Odds of a Han/Puns team?

I could see it. Han has been particularly belligerent.

Han is town.

Go read post 265 in topic 3. Han is town.

This post is not well founded. Just as death didn't "read his pm properly" a scum Han could have done the same. And they both could have gone back and saw their mistakes and been like "oh shit, I'm sorry."

Yes for Death that's true. But the order of the posts doesn't make sense if Han is scum. Scum Han would've had to plan both the confirmed town post and then the post minutes later that says, oh wait scum probably had the same format but stuff switched. Very unlikely gambit for a scum to make.

Hey Pez kill Puns with me. The dude literally got scummoned and had disappeared for a large part of the day when I stopped suspecting him. But I ask if he and Han might be scum and wouldn't you know it, he RANDOMLY pops in. I just cannot imagine why.

Or maybe it's end of day. I lean town on Puns. I'm sticking with that. I doubt I'll change my vote from Scare at the moment.
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It's not that there was a connection between you and Tom it is just the fact of speed that I started a train on IGCD. Someone who has been playing rather haphazardly and it was met with swift reaction from you and Tom. Almost as if you guys needed a better lynch than what was presented. I just picked you.
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Panthera posted...

'Puns'] response to you[Ulti] when you talked activity was way too genuine.

This was why I initially liked him (I think you were actually the one who sold me on that point?) but then he was like "nah bro I wasn't mad" so for me that put him back on square one. He's still seemed reasonably towny but I can't say I liked that vote on me
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In the brief lull before end of day really gets rolling, I'm making myself a drink.
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Also, out of game talk, thanks for understanding about kids.
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eaedwards6400 posted...

It's not that there was a connection between you and Tom it is just the fact of speed that I started a train on IGCD. Someone who has been playing rather haphazardly and it was met with swift reaction from you and Tom. Almost as if you guys needed a better lynch than what was presented. I just picked you.

I had been pushing IGCD for a while, it just didn't seem to be viable!
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Votals

Red(4): Scare, (Han), Death, (Ulti), 5tar, Tom
Tom(3): (Puns), (igcd), (Pez), Red, (Puns), Ulti, puns
Scare(2): (Ulti), Pez, (IGCD), (Puns), (Han), IGCD, (Ulti), (Ulti)
Sbell(2): (han), (scare), (Ulti), (Tom), (IGCD), (Puns), (Puns), Han, eaed
IGCD(1): (eaed), Sbell, (Tom)
Ulti(1): (eaed), Corrik, (Puns), (5tar), (IGCD)
5tar(1): (Scare), (SBell), (Ulti), (Tom), (IGCD), (IGCD), Panth
Puns(1): (Ulti), Ulti
Death(0): (Corrik), (Panth)
mzero(0): (Tom), (Corrik), (Ulti)
NoLynch(0): (Tom), (Tom), (Pez)
Pez(0): (IGCD)
Han(0): (Corrik), (Sbell)
Corrik(0): (Ulti)
Panth(0): (Ulti)
eaed(0): (Ulti)

8 to lynch early, 11pm edt 8 pm pdt otherwise, 40 min left
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eaedwards6400 posted...

It's not that there was a connection between you and Tom it is just the fact of speed that I started a train on IGCD. Someone who has been playing rather haphazardly and it was met with swift reaction from you and Tom. Almost as if you guys needed a better lynch than what was presented. I just picked you.

Fair, it's end of day. Fuck if I know who is the best choice right now.
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Then why didn't you vote for him?
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Tom Bombadil posted...

it just didn't seem to be viable!

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and there were other dudes I liked almost as much that were
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But when I voted first it seemed viable
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Kind of surprised Red isn't commenting at all.
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yes it is easier to lynch somebody who has 2 votes than 0
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People. Lynch 5tar. He made a big deal of suspecting Scare because he thought Scare was attacking hm to defend Death. His logic made it clear they had to be scum together. Then as time passed he started softening on Death, but not on Scare even though his logic required him to still think of Death as scum to suspect Scare. When I called him on this he said acknowledged it, but never explained what thought process led him to still suspect Scare. And now that I check I see he never even voted either. His only vote is on Red, after the floodgates had been opened. He was very sure for ages Death and Scare were scum, but never cared to vote and didn't seem to be totally sure why he thought Scare was to begin with.

And if you think Pez and/or SBell are town, you should really be feeling like he slipped perspective a bit in trying to make them question themselves. The post to SBell in particular. If SBell isn't a scum read for you that should be a very hard post to ignore.
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Tom Bombadil posted...

This was why I initially liked him (I think you were actually the one who sold me on that point?) but then he was like "nah bro I wasn't mad" so for me that put him back on square one. He's still seemed reasonably towny but I can't say I liked that vote on me

I don't have time to look it up unless you remember what posts it was but I think he was talking about not being mad in a different set of posts than the ones I meant. I posted my reason for thinking he was town while he was still around and he never denied to me that I was right in thinking he was worked up over it.
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Well didn't Scare say he was White Knighting or was he being whitty?
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Panthera posted...

People. Lynch 5tar. He made a big deal of suspecting Scare because he thought Scare was attacking hm to defend Death. His logic made it clear they had to be scum together. Then as time passed he started softening on Death, but not on Scare even though his logic required him to still think of Death as scum to suspect Scare. When I called him on this he said acknowledged it, but never explained what thought process led him to still suspect Scare. And now that I check I see he never even voted either. His only vote is on Red, after the floodgates had been opened. He was very sure for ages Death and Scare were scum, but never cared to vote and didn't seem to be totally sure why he thought Scare was to begin with.

And if you think Pez and/or SBell are town, you should really be feeling like he slipped perspective a bit in trying to make them question themselves. The post to SBell in particular. If SBell isn't a scum read for you that should be a very hard post to ignore.

I think his soft confirm of SBell is way more telling than his posts to me. Very few people have thought I looked scummy today. A lot of people thought SBell looked scummy. So, a slip on confirming SBell as town is more meaningful imo.
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pezloco posted...

Panthera posted...

People. Lynch 5tar. He made a big deal of suspecting Scare because he thought Scare was attacking hm to defend Death. His logic made it clear they had to be scum together. Then as time passed he started softening on Death, but not on Scare even though his logic required him to still think of Death as scum to suspect Scare. When I called him on this he said acknowledged it, but never explained what thought process led him to still suspect Scare. And now that I check I see he never even voted either. His only vote is on Red, after the floodgates had been opened. He was very sure for ages Death and Scare were scum, but never cared to vote and didn't seem to be totally sure why he thought Scare was to begin with.

And if you think Pez and/or SBell are town, you should really be feeling like he slipped perspective a bit in trying to make them question themselves. The post to SBell in particular. If SBell isn't a scum read for you that should be a very hard post to ignore.

I think his soft confirm of SBell is way more telling than his posts to me. Very few people have thought I looked scummy today. A lot of people thought SBell looked scummy. So, a slip on confirming SBell as town is more meaningful imo.

I think they are both meaningful because it sets a pattern of not being able to hide what he knows.
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##unvote
##vote:5tar

Im back.

I'm still not feeling at all good about IGCD.
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5tarscream posted...

##vote: red

hasnt starscream been calling me scum all day

but now following me?
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Obellisk posted...

##unvote
##vote:5tar

Im back.

I'm still not feeling at all good about IGCD.

So you leave the IGCD lynch when you're the only one there?
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30 mins
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Order of my lynch preference,

Scare > SBell,5tar > Red > Lots of Neutrals I probably wouldn't vote for > Not voting for Tom and Han
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