Current Events > Why is black on black crime branded, but white on white crime isn't?

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Objection! Leading question...
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because there is more of it

I don't know but I expect this topic to go places so I will be tagging.
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PatrickMahomes posted...

I don't know but I expect this topic to go places so I will be tagging.

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Because people will assume a cop did it otherwise despite statistics show white people are more likely to be shot by cop.
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The same reason why a minority shooter is a "thug' while a white shooter is "mentality ill".

(But of course those same people will make it easier for legitimately mentality ill people to buy guns....)
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HiddenLurker posted...

Because people will assume a cop did it otherwise despite statistics show white people are more likely to be shot by cop.

I take it if this is even true it ignores the % of overall people living in the US of that race. You know you're a racist when you look for the first statistic to support your racist thoughts and avoid looking any further into it
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Lordgold666 posted...

PatrickMahomes posted...

I don't know but I expect this topic to go places so I will be tagging.

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HiddenLurker posted...

Because people will assume a cop did it otherwise despite statistics show white people are more likely to be shot by cop.

...how the fuck does that answer the question?
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This is what happens when you see white people as the default. White crime is just seen as crime. Black crime is a problem for the black community to sort out.

Lost_All_Senses posted...

HiddenLurker posted...

Because people will assume a cop did it otherwise despite statistics show white people are more likely to be shot by cop.

I take it if this is even true it ignores the % of overall people living in the US of that race. You know you're a racist when you look for the first statistic to support your racist thoughts and avoid looking any further into it

You do not wanna use the "percentage of population" bullshit.

Not only is it racist by dismissing other peoples death because they are not the right skin color it is highly offensive to anyone whom has lost someone due to a justified or not police shooting.

But if you insist on using that dumb logic to argue a black death is worth far more then a white death because of their skin color then how about crime rates.
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HiddenLurker posted...

Lost_All_Senses posted...

HiddenLurker posted...

Because people will assume a cop did it otherwise despite statistics show white people are more likely to be shot by cop.

I take it if this is even true it ignores the % of overall people living in the US of that race. You know you're a racist when you look for the first statistic to support your racist thoughts and avoid looking any further into it

You do not wanna use the "percentage of population" bullshit.

Not only is it racist by dismissing other peoples death because they are not the right skin color it is highly offensive to anyone whom has lost someone due to a justified or not police shooting.

But if you insist on using that dumb logic to argue a black death is worth far more then a white death because of their skin color then how about crime rates.

Dude, you've literally not said one thing that is a proper response to the subject in this topic or the post you quoted. If you're not trolling you might just wanna take a break off the internet. Cause you got a weird headspace thing going on
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HiddenLurker posted...

Lost_All_Senses posted...

HiddenLurker posted...

Because people will assume a cop did it otherwise despite statistics show white people are more likely to be shot by cop.

I take it if this is even true it ignores the % of overall people living in the US of that race. You know you're a racist when you look for the first statistic to support your racist thoughts and avoid looking any further into it

You do not wanna use the "percentage of population" bullshit.

Not only is it racist by dismissing other peoples death because they are not the right skin color it is highly offensive to anyone whom has lost someone due to a justified or not police shooting.

But if you insist on using that dumb logic to argue a black death is worth far more then a white death because of their skin color then how about crime rates.

What in the fuck are you talking about?
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HiddenLurker posted...

Lost_All_Senses posted...

HiddenLurker posted...

Because people will assume a cop did it otherwise despite statistics show white people are more likely to be shot by cop.

I take it if this is even true it ignores the % of overall people living in the US of that race. You know you're a racist when you look for the first statistic to support your racist thoughts and avoid looking any further into it

You do not wanna use the "percentage of population" bullshit.

Not only is it racist by dismissing other peoples death because they are not the right skin color it is highly offensive to anyone whom has lost someone due to a justified or not police shooting.

But if you insist on using that dumb logic to argue a black death is worth far more then a white death because of their skin color then how about crime rates.

Does your ass gets jealous of the shit that comes out of your mouth?

In itself, it's nothing that needs to be brought up. But if you have a group like BLM that made its seemingly biggest thing the killing of black people by police, it makes sense to mention they may want to focus on which is statistically more of a threat.

What that shouldn't do is be used to try to shut down arguments on police violence. There is a legitimate argument to be had about police brutality. It's more of a pragmatic response to a dogmatic worldview.

ThanksUglyGod posted...

This is what happens when you see white people as the default. White crime is just seen as crime. Black crime is a problem for the black community to sort out.

Also there isn't really a "white community." The concept of racial communities is racist.

nemu posted...

In itself, it's nothing that needs to be brought up. But if you have a group like BLM that made its seemingly biggest thing the killing of black people by police, it makes sense to mention they may want to focus on which is statistically more of a threat.

What that shouldn't do is be used to try to shut down arguments on police violence. There is a legitimate argument to be had about police brutality. It's more of a pragmatic response to a dogmatic worldview.

Whats the point of misrepresenting BLM like that? How have you gone this long without actually listening?
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All black on black crime seems to tell is that a crime committed by a black person is done to a black victim. I think people get that confused with crime percentage. Of course that is still high for us by itself, black on black crime would be more appropriately compared to crimes where the perpetrators and victims are of the same race.

It's not that different from saying that a victim of sex crimes is usually attacked by a family member or someone they already know.
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Because the White community refuses to take responsibility and better itself.
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Annihilated posted...

ThanksUglyGod posted...

This is what happens when you see white people as the default. White crime is just seen as crime. Black crime is a problem for the black community to sort out.

Also there isn't really a "white community." The concept of racial communities is racist.

This is the type of shit white people say when they don't want others to ever come together and find a way to get over the hurdles that they set in front of them.

*Puts huge walls in front of competition and walks to the side on a flat path*

"We don't need to team up so why are you guys?!" *Also team up at the highest levels of congress*
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hockeybub89 posted...

Because the White community refuses to take responsibility and better itself.

Right on cue.

Lost_All_Senses posted...

Annihilated posted...

ThanksUglyGod posted...

This is what happens when you see white people as the default. White crime is just seen as crime. Black crime is a problem for the black community to sort out.

Also there isn't really a "white community." The concept of racial communities is racist.

This is the type of shit white people say when they don't want others to ever come together and find a way to get over the hurdles that they set in front of them.

*Puts huge walls in front of competition and walks to the side on a flat path*

"We don't need to team up so why are you guys?!" *Also team up at the highest levels of congress*

No, it's the type of shit non racists say to people who like to use race to define themselves. Imaginary walls don't change any of this.

Annihilated posted...

ThanksUglyGod posted...

This is what happens when you see white people as the default. White crime is just seen as crime. Black crime is a problem for the black community to sort out.

Also there isn't really a "white community." The concept of racial communities is racist.

That's another issue that I've brought up with some friends and acquaintances a little while ago. The way black and white Americans identify themselves is different. White Americans just see themselves as Americans, as any of us really should, but don't see that when the celebrate their own family's cultures, Irish celebrations being a good example, it's no different than when we celebrate our origins as well.

Unfortunately unless we pay for some genealogy test, we don't have a specific culture from Africa to celebrate like our Latino, White and Asian counterparts. That's why we collectively come together as "Black" or "African American" while many others can specifically celebrate their German or Korean heritage rather than cover it as European and Asian.
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Annihilated posted...

No, it's the type of shit non racists say to people who like to use race to define themselves. Imaginary walls don't change any of this.

Poor response missing the actual point. White people tend to use this technique a lot. Dismiss the power dynamic immediately and try to redirect the conversation to a more trivial subject. Like imaginary walls
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KStateKing17 posted...

Annihilated posted...

ThanksUglyGod posted...

This is what happens when you see white people as the default. White crime is just seen as crime. Black crime is a problem for the black community to sort out.

Also there isn't really a "white community." The concept of racial communities is racist.

That's another issue that I've brought up with some friends and acquaintances a little while ago. The way black and white Americans identify themselves is different. White Americans just see themselves as Americans, as any of us really should, but don't see that when the celebrate their own family's cultures, Irish celebrations being a good example, it's no different than when we celebrate our origins as well.

Unfortunately unless we pay for some genealogy test, we don't have a specific culture from Africa to celebrate like our Latino, White and Asian counterparts. That's why we collectively come together as "Black" or "African American" while many others can specifically celebrate their German or Korean heritage rather than cover it as European and Asian.

That's pretty much the same way anyone who is curious about their heritage finds out about it. That's why websites like ancestry.com and 23andme exist. People at my work were talking about those websites too, and they were black. But you're right that heritage is a better thing to celebrate than racial genes because A) it's not inherently related to race and B) it reminds us of where we all came from in the world to eventually arrive at the same place. Heritage celebrations are an opportunity to unite people, while racial communities exist only to divide us.

Lost_All_Senses posted...

Annihilated posted...

No, it's the type of shit non racists say to people who like to use race to define themselves. Imaginary walls don't change any of this.

Poor response missing the actual point. White people tend to

If you have to lead with a racial stereotype as your premise, you've already lost.

Lost_All_Senses posted...

Dude, you've literally not said one thing that is a proper response to the subject in this topic or the post you quoted. If you're not trolling you might just wanna take a break off the internet. Cause you got a weird headspace thing going on

Literally calling someone a racist.

Then accuses them of trolling.

Reading ain't your strong suit since you felt it necessary to play the race card.
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What do you mean by branded?
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HiddenLurker posted...

Lost_All_Senses posted...

Dude, you've literally not said one thing that is a proper response to the subject in this topic or the post you quoted. If you're not trolling you might just wanna take a break off the internet. Cause you got a weird headspace thing going on

Literally calling someone a racist.

Then accuses them of trolling.

Reading ain't your strong suit since you felt it necessary to play the race card.

what sort of drugs is your doctor prescribing to you? I feel like my doctor might be holding out and not telling me about the best opiates.
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because not even white people care about white people killing other white people
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thronedfire2 posted...

because not even white people care about white people killing other white people

This.

White America is being attacked by White CEOs from banking to pharmaceutical companies. Fox doesn't care to sensationalize high suicide rates, domestic violence, substance abuse or anything else that actually effect their base.

Whatever distracts their base from the actual problems that effect them.
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Philosopher_X posted...

thronedfire2 posted...

because not even white people care about white people killing other white people

This.

White America is being attacked by White CEOs from banking to pharmaceutical companies. Fox doesn't care to sensationalize high suicide rates, domestic violence, substance abuse or anything else that actually effect their base.

Whatever distracts their base from the actual problems that effect them.

Because white people arent allowed to complain. Youll get one-upped by "b-b-but my great great great grandpa had it real rough!"
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Jerry_Hellyeah posted...

Philosopher_X posted...

thronedfire2 posted...

because not even white people care about white people killing other white people

This.

White America is being attacked by White CEOs from banking to pharmaceutical companies. Fox doesn't care to sensationalize high suicide rates, domestic violence, substance abuse or anything else that actually effect their base.

Whatever distracts their base from the actual problems that effect them.

Because white people arent allowed to complain. Youll get one-upped by "b-b-but my great great great grandpa had it real rough!"

"One-upped?" When you stop trying to compete with other people, you'll stop saying things like that. Everybody has been oppressed in some way, and all oppression has it's own intricacies. Blanket statements don't further the discussion.

Plus, that's quite a lie... I hope you're joking, lol. Especially since that doesn't even begin to address the post you quoted.
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Philosopher_X posted...

"One-upped?" When you stop trying to compete with other people, you'll stop saying things like that.

Call it whatever makes you feel good, the fact is that all too often legitimate complaints from white people are handwaved by "I got it worse". Its simple racism and I see it all the time in my community. Its disappointing, to put it mildly.
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