Current Events > Liberals who learn about white privilege are less sympathetic to poor whites.

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https://reason.com/2019/05/29/white-privilege-study-sympathetic-black-people/

Shocking...

Who would have thought that being indoctrinated into the belief that belonging to privileged monolithic group would result in people having less empathy towards those who end up not achieving success when they are supposedly playing the game of life on easy mode?

Source: myself
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less sympathetic compared to what?

Well the philosophy of "white privilege" is racist and demonizing in nature after all.
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Is this a zero sum game
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got a better source for this than Reason Magazine?
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averagejoel posted...

got a better source for this than Reason Magazine?

What's wrong with Reason? They link and cite their sources.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/neazxq/the-disturbing-thing-i-learned-studying-white-privilege-and-liberals

What if I told you poor white people can also have white privilege, and white privilege isn't about how much stuff you have
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SixStringHero posted...

What's wrong with Reason? They link and cite their sources.

I trust them slightly more than I trust Breitbart
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eston posted...

What if I told you poor white people can also have white privilege, and white privilege isn't about how much stuff you have

Sidestepping is a fundamental fighting game mechanic
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white privilege is just racism -- i would say passive aggressive racism but its not even that anymore in 2019. lefties always accelerating their hatred. the mask has slipped off.

What they found was that conservatives who had learned about white privilege were no more sympathetic to the poor black man than conservatives who had not learned about white privilege.

This is true. Conservatives don't see color, but individual circumstance.
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Hop103 posted...

Well the philosophy of "white privilege" is racist and demonizing in nature after all.

This has always been my outlook on it.

This study just helps confirm what many of us have already known regarding this bullshit concept.

MedeaLysistrata posted...

Is this a zero sum game

According to white privilege apologist yes it is.
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To 100+!
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averagejoel posted...

SixStringHero posted...

What's wrong with Reason? They link and cite their sources.

I trust them slightly more than I trust Breitbart

But you'll trust a far left source with a poor reporting accuracy record over a right wing source that has a high reporting accuracy.

Someone quote me so that he can see this.
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Paragon21XX posted...

averagejoel posted...

SixStringHero posted...

What's wrong with Reason? They link and cite their sources.

I trust them slightly more than I trust Breitbart

But you'll trust a far left source with a poor reporting accuracy record over a right wing source that has a high reporting accuracy.

Someone quote me so that he can see this.

I really hate using this site as an arbiter of anything regarding media bias, as this site has their own bias and credibility issues regarding their ratings for certain sources, but even they at best call Reason CENTER right, not far right.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/reason/

and it also lines up with this site which I highly recommend.

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/reason

Yes believing that an entire race has an natural advantage is racist and not caring about poor people from that race due to your belief in their racist advantage is doubly racist.

I avoid many people because many people are racist.
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One of the most racist things ever said. There is no secret benefit to being white.
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SixStringHero posted...

I really hate using this site as an arbiter of anything regarding media bias, as this site has their own bias and credibility issues

"...but if it confirms my bias..."

But anyway, this aspect is too complicated for this board. Even mentioning the term "white privilege" generates a considerable froth.
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Let's see how much time TC is willing to dedicate to this
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White privelege theory just seems like an effort to quell the masses.

Yes, our horrible history as a nation, and human beings natural aversion to the other has led to there being a major present-day skew against black people & minorities in general, in all aspects of society.

But the real battle should be being fought between the classes, instead there is in-fighting amongst the lower class to distract us from the real oppressors.
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CyricZ posted...

SixStringHero posted...

I really hate using this site as an arbiter of anything regarding media bias, as this site has their own bias and credibility issues

"...but if it confirms my bias..."

But anyway, this aspect is too complicated for this board. Even mentioning the term "white privilege" generates a considerable froth.

I posted two sources which rate Reason as Center Right.

Reason also cites the original study and a link to Vice, which is hardly a source that leans right.

Shablagoo posted...

Yes, our horrible history as a nation, and human beings natural aversion to the other has led to there being a major present-day skew against black people & minorities in general, in all aspects of society.

You just defined what white privilege is, really.
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SixStringHero posted...

CyricZ posted...

SixStringHero posted...

I really hate using this site as an arbiter of anything regarding media bias, as this site has their own bias and credibility issues

"...but if it confirms my bias..."

But anyway, this aspect is too complicated for this board. Even mentioning the term "white privilege" generates a considerable froth.

I posted two sources which rate Reason as Center Right.

Reason also cites the original study and a link to Vice, which is hardly a source that leans right.

I just found it funny that you led into it by saying you don't trust them, but you trusted them enough for this.
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Hop103 posted...

Well the philosophy of "white privilege" is racist and demonizing in nature after all.

Instead, these lessons decreased liberals sympathy for poor white people, which led them to blame white people more for their own poverty. They seemed to think that if a person is poor despite all the privileges of being white, there must really be something wrong with them.

the tolerant left
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Kolibri X posted...

What they found was that conservatives who had learned about white privilege were no more sympathetic to the poor black man than conservatives who had not learned about white privilege.

This is true. Conservatives don't see color, but individual circumstance.

Bullshit.

If conservatives didnt see color, they would stop trying to suppress minority voters.
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CyricZ posted...

SixStringHero posted...

CyricZ posted...

SixStringHero posted...

I really hate using this site as an arbiter of anything regarding media bias, as this site has their own bias and credibility issues

"...but if it confirms my bias..."

But anyway, this aspect is too complicated for this board. Even mentioning the term "white privilege" generates a considerable froth.

I posted two sources which rate Reason as Center Right.

Reason also cites the original study and a link to Vice, which is hardly a source that leans right.

I just found it funny that you led into it by saying you don't trust them, but you trusted them enough for this.

Which is why I also used All Sides as well, which is a barometer for how the populace views the particular site's lean and bias instead of leaning entirely on the other site which is just the subjective opinion of one guy who uses a completely arbitrary rating method of his rating determinations.

CyricZ posted...

Shablagoo posted...

Yes, our horrible history as a nation, and human beings natural aversion to the other has led to there being a major present-day skew against black people & minorities in general, in all aspects of society.

You just defined what white privilege is, really.

Thanks, I tried my best lol. Did you read the rest of my post? Assuming there is indeed truth to the OPs article, would you say my conclusion is correct?
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

Kolibri X posted...

What they found was that conservatives who had learned about white privilege were no more sympathetic to the poor black man than conservatives who had not learned about white privilege.

This is true. Conservatives don't see color, but individual circumstance.

Bullshit.

If conservatives didnt see color, they would stop trying to suppress minority voters.

Hey bub, cut out the conspiracy BS.
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

Kolibri X posted...

What they found was that conservatives who had learned about white privilege were no more sympathetic to the poor black man than conservatives who had not learned about white privilege.

This is true. Conservatives don't see color, but individual circumstance.

Bullshit.

If conservatives didnt see color, they would stop trying to suppress minority voters.

They aren't trying to suppress minority votes because they're minorities though. They're trying to suppress Democrat votes. If the black demographic voted overwhelmingly for Republicans, they wouldn't be trying to suppress it.
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Kolibri X posted...

This is true. Conservatives don't see color, but individual circumstance.

to be more precise, conservatives tend to be incapable of thinking about these issues beyond the individual level. (devil's advocate: maybe they're not incapable, but unwilling. I honestly don't care which though; the end result is the same)

e.g. their solution to poverty is "get a better job" or "move somewhere else", which doesn't actually have anything to do with alleviating poverty.
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Kolibri X posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

Kolibri X posted...

What they found was that conservatives who had learned about white privilege were no more sympathetic to the poor black man than conservatives who had not learned about white privilege.

This is true. Conservatives don't see color, but individual circumstance.

Bullshit.

If conservatives didnt see color, they would stop trying to suppress minority voters.

Hey bub, cut out the conspiracy BS.

ITP: Jim Crow laws never happened
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White privilege isn't always about wealth.
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

Kolibri X posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

Kolibri X posted...

What they found was that conservatives who had learned about white privilege were no more sympathetic to the poor black man than conservatives who had not learned about white privilege.

This is true. Conservatives don't see color, but individual circumstance.

Bullshit.

If conservatives didnt see color, they would stop trying to suppress minority voters.

Hey bub, cut out the conspiracy BS.

ITP: Jim Crow laws never happened

Immaterial to your current year conspiracy and both parties supported the end of Jim Crow laws.
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Smashingpmkns posted...

White privilege isn't always about wealth.

what else then? I mean, saying it's about wealth is kinda racist already but I am genuinely curious about any universal skin privelages that are believed to exist. Besides dealing with cops that is, there is sufficient evidence that in certain areas of the country skin can matter a lot in those situations
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Isnt shocking. Ive acccidentlsly crawled onto places where people say things like Im glad she was raped, white bitch deserved it or they should have killed her too

I didnt know it was a website for people who hate whites at the time but it was still really scary.

Im white maybe thats why I was scared but really, it was just heartbreaking to see people seriously think that way or say that stuff about people
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I always thought white privilege was stuff like seeing yourself represented in media, usually as a hero or protagonist, and not having it be an 'alternative' story. Progress has been made on that front.
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Talking about things from the perspective of people having "privilege" over others is the most inane way of looking at the world in the first place. Regardless of the intention, it creates an oppressor and victim, and most people will look at it that way. It's fine to talk about certain groups being underprivileged. That's how the discussion should be framed.

Kolibri X posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

Kolibri X posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

Kolibri X posted...

What they found was that conservatives who had learned about white privilege were no more sympathetic to the poor black man than conservatives who had not learned about white privilege.

This is true. Conservatives don't see color, but individual circumstance.

Bullshit.

If conservatives didnt see color, they would stop trying to suppress minority voters.

Hey bub, cut out the conspiracy BS.

ITP: Jim Crow laws never happened

Immaterial to your current year conspiracy and both parties supported the end of Jim Crow laws.

Then why are Florida Republicans going against the will of the people and fighting against giving felons the right to vote? You know, felons that are predominately minorities? Same with voter ID laws.
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nemu posted...

It's fine to talk about certain groups being underprivileged. That's how the discussion should be framed.

Except when the discussion is framed that way it's called "victim mentality" and dismissed just as readily as when it's framed as a privilege issue.
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TrevorBlack79 posted...

nemu posted...

It's fine to talk about certain groups being underprivileged. That's how the discussion should be framed.

Except when the discussion is framed that way it's called "victim mentality" and dismissed just as readily as when it's framed as a privilege issue.

It really depends on the issue. There's a lot of stuff where people are really just complaining about a whole lot of nothing, seeking out to become victims over actual discussion on issues pertaining to certain groups.

And suddenly conservatives 'care' about the poor.

sktgamer_13dude posted...

Kolibri X posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

Kolibri X posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

Kolibri X posted...

What they found was that conservatives who had learned about white privilege were no more sympathetic to the poor black man than conservatives who had not learned about white privilege.

This is true. Conservatives don't see color, but individual circumstance.

Bullshit.

If conservatives didnt see color, they would stop trying to suppress minority voters.

Hey bub, cut out the conspiracy BS.

ITP: Jim Crow laws never happened

Immaterial to your current year conspiracy and both parties supported the end of Jim Crow laws.

Then why are Florida Republicans going against the will of the people and fighting against giving felons the right to vote? You know, felons that are predominately minorities? Same with voter ID laws.

Pretty easy to figure out why, but you're being silly if you think it's as simple as muh racism. Same for needing an ID to vote.
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Shablagoo posted...

Thanks, I tried my best lol. Did you read the rest of my post? Assuming there is indeed truth to the OPs article, would you say my conclusion is correct?

I don't think knowledge of white privilege should be a "battle". It's an education effort, for people to realize that what you look like can have an effect on how society treats you.

And this knowledge is not for people of color. They already know about it and grew up in it. The knowledge is for white folks who ask "why do black people have so many problems with the police" or "why can't that black person become rich like me".

It's not ammo in a fight. It's a teaching moment. I disagree that it's an effort to "quell the masses".
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White privilege is a multi-faceted issue.

All whites have some privileges over others, but not all whites are more privileged than all non-whites.

Anyone that thinks white privilege means some trailer trash is better off than Jay-Z and Beyonce is being disingenuous as fuck.
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CommonStar posted...

And suddenly conservatives 'care' about the poor.

"Haha liberals have just as little compassion as me! Checkmate!"
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MedeaLysistrata posted...

eston posted...

What if I told you poor white people can also have white privilege, and white privilege isn't about how much stuff you have

Sidestepping is a fundamental fighting game mechanic

Heh, clever.
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Probably because they don't realize how much being poor screws you over.
I mean, being white helps, particularly in terms of landing jobs and avoiding incarceration, but that's not nearly enough to escape poverty.