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Calwings 05/28/19 9:26:45 PM #52:	karlpilkington4 posted... So the thing inside the mother isnt alive? Um... being /biNG/ noun 1. existence. By your very own ass-backwards logic, male masturbation is also murder because those sperm cells could be considered "alive" by the same principle. So if you've ever jacked off even once, then by your logic, you're much worse than a woman who's had an abortion because you've killed millions of potential human lives in all of those sperm cells. --- "Someday I too will fly... and find you again!" https://i.imgtc.com/eZ90o0r.gif <cite>Calwings posted [p:922496659] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>So the thing inside the mother isnt alive? Um... being /biNG/ noun 1. existence.</quote> By your very own ass-backwards logic, male masturbation is also murder because those sperm cells could be considered "alive" by the same principle. So if you've ever jacked off even once, then by your logic, you're much worse than a woman who's had an abortion because you've killed millions of potential human lives in all of those sperm cells.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboLaserGandhi 05/28/19 9:27:08 PM #53:	karlpilkington4 posted... RoboLaserGandhi posted... karlpilkington4 posted... RoboLaserGandhi posted... karlpilkington4 posted... sktgamer_13dude posted... karlpilkington4 posted... Banning the ability to kill an innocent living being should have never been acceptable to begin with If its a living being, its be able to live outside of the womb. Which is why theres laws before and after viability. Shut the fuck up with your buzzword bullshit. Abortion isnt murder and isnt killing an innocent being. Thats like saying Plan B is murder. So the thing inside the mother isnt alive? Um... being /biNG/ noun 1. existence. Shut the fuck up, sematic stickler. All you care about is technicalities and "winning" arguments. You don't care about the actual, massive health implications of this. Imagine thinking that definitions of words are "semantics". The health implications are not killing innocents. Sorry, maybe take responsibility for your actions, wear a condom, don't have sex, be a parent or put the kid up for adoption. Abusing the definitions of words to twist and derail an argument is, indeed, semantics. Try again. I didnt abuse anything. The dude said a fetus isnt alive. It's literally not true. Try again. He literally didn't. It's a gray area with no hard definition, and you also completely dodged his point with a definition that didn't even fit. It was extremely vague and you were hoping everyone would infer your point and see your way. Didn't happen. <cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted [p:922496682] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote> Banning the ability to kill an innocent living being should have never been acceptable to begin with</quote> If its a living being, its be able to live outside of the womb. Which is why theres laws before and after viability. Shut the fuck up with your buzzword bullshit. Abortion isnt murder and isnt killing an innocent being. Thats like saying Plan B is murder.</quote> So the thing inside the mother isnt alive? Um... being /biNG/ noun 1. existence.</quote> Shut the fuck up, sematic stickler. All you care about is technicalities and "winning" arguments. You don't care about the actual, massive health implications of this.</quote> Imagine thinking that definitions of words are "semantics". The health implications are not killing innocents. Sorry, maybe take responsibility for your actions, wear a condom, don't have sex, be a parent or put the kid up for adoption.</quote> Abusing the definitions of words to twist and derail an argument is, indeed, semantics. Try again.</quote> I didnt abuse anything. The dude said a fetus isnt alive. It's literally not true. Try again.</quote> He literally didn't. It's a gray area with no hard definition, and you also completely dodged his point with a definition that didn't even fit. It was extremely vague and you were hoping everyone would infer your point and see your way. Didn't happen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 05/28/19 9:28:07 PM #54:	karlpilkington4 posted... sktgamer_13dude posted... karlpilkington4 posted... sktgamer_13dude posted... karlpilkington4 posted... sktgamer_13dude posted... karlpilkington4 posted... Banning the ability to kill an innocent living being should have never been acceptable to begin with If its a living being, its be able to live outside of the womb. Which is why theres laws before and after viability. Shut the fuck up with your buzzword bullshit. Abortion isnt murder and isnt killing an innocent being. Thats like saying Plan B is murder. So the thing inside the mother isnt alive? Um... being /biNG/ noun 1. existence. Abortion isnt murder. Shut the fuck up. When did I say its murder? I'll wait. Sorry, just because you didnt say it in this topic doesnt mean that youve never said it. So Ill adjust it to abortion isnt killing a human. Shut the fuck up. Moving the goal posts. Nice I never said it in any topic, and if you can prove that I did, I'll leave this board for good. Notice how you didnt deny my statement. Because you know its not true. Because it it was, miscarriages would be killing an innocent life!!!! PLAN B KILLS HUMANSSSSS!!!! Kindly shut the fuck up and stop trying to control womens bodies because reasons. --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:922496730] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote> Banning the ability to kill an innocent living being should have never been acceptable to begin with</quote> If its a living being, its be able to live outside of the womb. Which is why theres laws before and after viability. Shut the fuck up with your buzzword bullshit. Abortion isnt murder and isnt killing an innocent being. Thats like saying Plan B is murder.</quote> So the thing inside the mother isnt alive? Um... being /biNG/ noun 1. existence.</quote> Abortion isnt murder. Shut the fuck up.</quote> When did I say its murder? I'll wait.</quote> Sorry, just because you didnt say it in this topic doesnt mean that youve never said it. So Ill adjust it to abortion isnt killing a human. Shut the fuck up.</quote> Moving the goal posts. Nice I never said it in any topic, and if you can prove that I did, I'll leave this board for good.</quote> Notice how you didnt deny my statement. Because you know its not true. Because it it was, miscarriages would be killing an innocent life!!!! PLAN B KILLS HUMANSSSSS!!!! Kindly shut the fuck up and stop trying to control womens bodies because reasons.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 05/28/19 9:29:35 PM #55:	Calwings posted... karlpilkington4 posted... So the thing inside the mother isnt alive? Um... being /biNG/ noun 1. existence. By your very own ass-backwards logic, male masturbation is also murder because those sperm cells could be considered "alive" by the same principle. So if you've ever jacked off even once, then by your logic, you're much worse than a woman who's had an abortion because you've killed millions of potential human lives in all of those sperm cells. Sorry, but no. To clarify my point, a fetus has value because whether you consider it a potential human life or a full-on human life, it has more value than just a cluster of cells. If left to its natural processes, it will grow into a baby. Sperm by itself does not. Hope that clears it up. If this is some sort of "gotcha post", feel free to just say it to yourself. I wont be replying. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:922496805] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>Calwings posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>So the thing inside the mother isnt alive? Um... being /biNG/ noun 1. existence.</quote> By your very own ass-backwards logic, male masturbation is also murder because those sperm cells could be considered "alive" by the same principle. So if you've ever jacked off even once, then by your logic, you're much worse than a woman who's had an abortion because you've killed millions of potential human lives in all of those sperm cells.</quote> Sorry, but no. To clarify my point, a fetus has value because whether you consider it a potential human life or a full-on human life, it has more value than just a cluster of cells. If left to its natural processes, it will grow into a baby. Sperm by itself does not. Hope that clears it up. If this is some sort of "gotcha post", feel free to just say it to yourself. I wont be replying.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 05/28/19 9:31:27 PM #56:	sktgamer_13dude posted... Notice how you didnt deny my statement. Because you know its not true. Because it it was, miscarriages would be killing an innocent life!!!! PLAN B KILLS HUMANSSSSS!!!! Kindly shut the fuck up and stop trying to control womens bodies because reasons. So are you gonna show where I said an abortion is murder, or not? I'm waiting. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:922496890] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>Notice how you didnt deny my statement. Because you know its not true. Because it it was, miscarriages would be killing an innocent life!!!! PLAN B KILLS HUMANSSSSS!!!! Kindly shut the fuck up and stop trying to control womens bodies because reasons.</quote> So are you gonna show where I said an abortion is murder, or not? I'm waiting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 05/28/19 9:31:40 PM #57:	I wonder what Karl thinks about the hundreds of eggs within a woman? Does he weep every time a woman menstruates for the lost life? --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:922496904] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote>I wonder what Karl thinks about the hundreds of eggs within a woman? Does he weep every time a woman menstruates for the lost life?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboLaserGandhi 05/28/19 9:32:21 PM #58:	Most of these anti-abortion folks seem like people who had kids on accident or regretted a planned child and just want to force everyone else to have to deal with what they did. They have a fucked up sense of justice/duty/responsibility and take shit way, way too far. I mean we're literally seeing abortion snuffed out state by state when no state supports the banning of abortion by more than 25% of the populace. We're letting extremists slip in and dismantle our society. <cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted [p:922496937] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote>Most of these anti-abortion folks seem like people who had kids on accident or regretted a planned child and just want to force everyone else to have to deal with what they did. They have a fucked up sense of justice/duty/responsibility and take shit way, way too far. I mean we're literally seeing abortion snuffed out state by state when no state supports the banning of abortion by more than 25% of the populace. We're letting extremists slip in and dismantle our society.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TrevorBlack79 05/28/19 9:32:48 PM #59:	Tmaster148 posted... The thing inside the mother is by all definition a parasite. Objectively wrong. A parasite by definition must be a different species than the host. We don't need to lie to justify a woman's right to bodily autonomy. Also, stop responding to karl, people. He's a troll. --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:922496962] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>The thing inside the mother is by all definition a parasite.</quote> Objectively wrong. A parasite by definition must be a different species than the host. We don't need to lie to justify a woman's right to bodily autonomy. Also, stop responding to karl, people. He's a troll.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 05/28/19 9:34:36 PM #60:	RoboLaserGandhi posted... He literally didn't. It's a gray area with no hard definition, and you also completely dodged his point with a definition that didn't even fit. It was extremely vague and you were hoping everyone would infer your point and see your way. Didn't happen. He did. A fetus is alive. It's irrelevant if its outside a womb or not. Is it breathing? Does it eat? It's alive. For fuck sake. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:922497063] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote> He literally didn't. It's a gray area with no hard definition, and you also completely dodged his point with a definition that didn't even fit. It was extremely vague and you were hoping everyone would infer your point and see your way. Didn't happen.</quote> He did. A fetus is alive. It's irrelevant if its outside a womb or not. Is it breathing? Does it eat? It's alive. For fuck sake.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboLaserGandhi 05/28/19 9:34:46 PM #61:	TrevorBlack79 posted... Tmaster148 posted... The thing inside the mother is by all definition a parasite. Objectively wrong. A parasite by definition must be a different species than the host. We don't need to lie to justify a woman's right to bodily autonomy. Also, stop responding to karl, people. He's a troll. Context matters. In a strict biology context yes. But words are fluid. That's why citing a dictionary definition (especially an English one) is ridiculous. <cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted [p:922497072] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>The thing inside the mother is by all definition a parasite.</quote> Objectively wrong. A parasite by definition must be a different species than the host. We don't need to lie to justify a woman's right to bodily autonomy. Also, stop responding to karl, people. He's a troll.</quote> Context matters. In a strict biology context yes. But words are fluid. That's why citing a dictionary definition (especially an English one) is ridiculous.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 05/28/19 9:34:51 PM #62:	Also heres you agreeing with someone that abortion is labeled as murder https://imgur.com/a/WanZxUp Cant wait for you to bullshit your way out of this one. --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:922497077] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote>Also heres you agreeing with someone that abortion is labeled as murder https://imgur.com/a/WanZxUp Cant wait for you to bullshit your way out of this one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 05/28/19 9:35:26 PM #63:	TrevorBlack79 posted... Tmaster148 posted... The thing inside the mother is by all definition a parasite. Objectively wrong. A parasite by definition must be a different species than the host. We don't need to lie to justify a woman's right to bodily autonomy. Also, stop responding to karl, people. He's a troll. Posting facts and having a discussion isnt trolling. Get over yourself. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:922497101] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>The thing inside the mother is by all definition a parasite.</quote> Objectively wrong. A parasite by definition must be a different species than the host. We don't need to lie to justify a woman's right to bodily autonomy. Also, stop responding to karl, people. He's a troll.</quote> Posting facts and having a discussion isnt trolling. Get over yourself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 05/28/19 9:35:54 PM #64:	A fetus has the value of using the resources inside the host's body causing the host to have to intake more in order to support both while getting 0 benefit for a long time. Hell even after the 9 months of incubation is done, there's still years you'll have to give up sleep to care for it. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:922497122] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote>A fetus has the value of using the resources inside the host's body causing the host to have to intake more in order to support both while getting 0 benefit for a long time. Hell even after the 9 months of incubation is done, there's still years you'll have to give up sleep to care for it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 05/28/19 9:36:00 PM #65:	RoboLaserGandhi posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... Tmaster148 posted... The thing inside the mother is by all definition a parasite. Objectively wrong. A parasite by definition must be a different species than the host. We don't need to lie to justify a woman's right to bodily autonomy. Also, stop responding to karl, people. He's a troll. Context matters. In a strict biology context yes. But words are fluid. That's why citing a dictionary definition (especially an English one) is ridiculous. LMAO --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:922497126] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>The thing inside the mother is by all definition a parasite.</quote> Objectively wrong. A parasite by definition must be a different species than the host. We don't need to lie to justify a woman's right to bodily autonomy. Also, stop responding to karl, people. He's a troll.</quote> Context matters. In a strict biology context yes. But words are fluid. That's why citing a dictionary definition (especially an English one) is ridiculous.</quote> LMAO</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 05/28/19 9:38:03 PM #66:	sktgamer_13dude posted... Also heres you agreeing with someone that abortion is labeled as murder https://imgur.com/a/WanZxUp Cant wait for you to bullshit your way out of this one. That's incredibly weak. Try again --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:922497215] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>Also heres you agreeing with someone that abortion is labeled as murder https://imgur.com/a/WanZxUp Cant wait for you to bullshit your way out of this one.</quote> That's incredibly weak. Try again</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboLaserGandhi 05/28/19 9:38:24 PM #67:	karlpilkington4 posted... RoboLaserGandhi posted... He literally didn't. It's a gray area with no hard definition, and you also completely dodged his point with a definition that didn't even fit. It was extremely vague and you were hoping everyone would infer your point and see your way. Didn't happen. He did. A fetus is alive. It's irrelevant if its outside a womb or not. Is it breathing? Does it eat? It's alive. For fuck sake. Okay so is that spider you killed earlier. So are the bacteria you just genocided when you brushed your teeth. So are the millions of animals we (I especially) love to eat on a daily basis. So the fuck what if a proto-human undeveloped nugget creature is by book definition alive? The law understands when killing something is actually important or not. <cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted [p:922497230] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote> He literally didn't. It's a gray area with no hard definition, and you also completely dodged his point with a definition that didn't even fit. It was extremely vague and you were hoping everyone would infer your point and see your way. Didn't happen.</quote> He did. A fetus is alive. It's irrelevant if its outside a womb or not. Is it breathing? Does it eat? It's alive. For fuck sake.</quote> Okay so is that spider you killed earlier. So are the bacteria you just genocided when you brushed your teeth. So are the millions of animals we (I especially) love to eat on a daily basis. So the fuck what if a proto-human undeveloped nugget creature is by book definition alive? The law understands when killing something is actually important or not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 05/28/19 9:38:48 PM #68:	Tmaster148 posted... A fetus has the value of using the resources inside the host's body causing the host to have to intake more in order to support both while getting 0 benefit for a long time. Hell even after the 9 months of incubation is done, there's still years you'll have to give up sleep to care for it. So apparently a baby is a parasite too? Oh this is rich. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:922497256] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>A fetus has the value of using the resources inside the host's body causing the host to have to intake more in order to support both while getting 0 benefit for a long time. Hell even after the 9 months of incubation is done, there's still years you'll have to give up sleep to care for it.</quote> So apparently a baby is a parasite too? Oh this is rich.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboLaserGandhi 05/28/19 9:38:55 PM #69:	karlpilkington4 posted... RoboLaserGandhi posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... Tmaster148 posted... The thing inside the mother is by all definition a parasite. Objectively wrong. A parasite by definition must be a different species than the host. We don't need to lie to justify a woman's right to bodily autonomy. Also, stop responding to karl, people. He's a troll. Context matters. In a strict biology context yes. But words are fluid. That's why citing a dictionary definition (especially an English one) is ridiculous. LMAO Your reaction to this basic knowledge is very telling. <cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted [p:922497264] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>The thing inside the mother is by all definition a parasite.</quote> Objectively wrong. A parasite by definition must be a different species than the host. We don't need to lie to justify a woman's right to bodily autonomy. Also, stop responding to karl, people. He's a troll.</quote> Context matters. In a strict biology context yes. But words are fluid. That's why citing a dictionary definition (especially an English one) is ridiculous.</quote> LMAO</quote> Your reaction to this basic knowledge is very telling.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TrevorBlack79 05/28/19 9:39:04 PM #70:	RoboLaserGandhi posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... Tmaster148 posted... The thing inside the mother is by all definition a parasite. Objectively wrong. A parasite by definition must be a different species than the host. We don't need to lie to justify a woman's right to bodily autonomy. Also, stop responding to karl, people. He's a troll. Context matters. In a strict biology context yes. But words are fluid. That's why citing a dictionary definition (especially an English one) is ridiculous. Yes, context matters. The context is that when people spout nonsense like "it's a parasite" or "it's a clump of cells" they're signaling the opposition to ignore them and anyone else who argues from a pro-choice perspective. This debate can only be won with superior arguments, and arguments like those mentioned above are literally counterproductive. --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:922497268] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>The thing inside the mother is by all definition a parasite.</quote> Objectively wrong. A parasite by definition must be a different species than the host. We don't need to lie to justify a woman's right to bodily autonomy. Also, stop responding to karl, people. He's a troll.</quote> Context matters. In a strict biology context yes. But words are fluid. That's why citing a dictionary definition (especially an English one) is ridiculous.</quote> Yes, context matters. The context is that when people spout nonsense like "it's a parasite" or "it's a clump of cells" they're signaling the opposition to ignore them and anyone else who argues from a pro-choice perspective. This debate can only be won with superior arguments, and arguments like those mentioned above are literally counterproductive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 05/28/19 9:39:12 PM #71:	Roe v. Wade specifically avoided defining life. Karl probably should too. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:922497274] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote>Roe v. Wade specifically avoided defining life. Karl probably should too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 05/28/19 9:39:21 PM #72:	RoboLaserGandhi posted... karlpilkington4 posted... RoboLaserGandhi posted... He literally didn't. It's a gray area with no hard definition, and you also completely dodged his point with a definition that didn't even fit. It was extremely vague and you were hoping everyone would infer your point and see your way. Didn't happen. He did. A fetus is alive. It's irrelevant if its outside a womb or not. Is it breathing? Does it eat? It's alive. For fuck sake. Okay so is that spider you killed earlier. So are the bacteria you just genocided when you brushed your teeth. So are the millions of animals we (I especially) love to eat on a daily basis. So the fuck what if a proto-human undeveloped nugget creature is by book definition alive? The law understands when killing something is actually important or not. I'm talking about humans my man. Hope that clears it up. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:922497282] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote> He literally didn't. It's a gray area with no hard definition, and you also completely dodged his point with a definition that didn't even fit. It was extremely vague and you were hoping everyone would infer your point and see your way. Didn't happen.</quote> He did. A fetus is alive. It's irrelevant if its outside a womb or not. Is it breathing? Does it eat? It's alive. For fuck sake.</quote> Okay so is that spider you killed earlier. So are the bacteria you just genocided when you brushed your teeth. So are the millions of animals we (I especially) love to eat on a daily basis. So the fuck what if a proto-human undeveloped nugget creature is by book definition alive? The law understands when killing something is actually important or not.</quote> I'm talking about humans my man. Hope that clears it up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 05/28/19 9:40:30 PM #73:	Leanaunfurled posted... I live in Missouri. Fuck this shithole. I work in Missouri. Fuck that shithole! --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:922497340] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>Leanaunfurled posted...</cite> <quote>I live in Missouri. Fuck this shithole.</quote> I work in Missouri. Fuck that shithole!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 05/28/19 9:40:36 PM #74:	karlpilkington4 posted... Tmaster148 posted... A fetus has the value of using the resources inside the host's body causing the host to have to intake more in order to support both while getting 0 benefit for a long time. Hell even after the 9 months of incubation is done, there's still years you'll have to give up sleep to care for it. So apparently a baby is a parasite too? Oh this is rich. You give up your own self earned cash and free time to support it for at least 18 years. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:922497343] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>A fetus has the value of using the resources inside the host's body causing the host to have to intake more in order to support both while getting 0 benefit for a long time. Hell even after the 9 months of incubation is done, there's still years you'll have to give up sleep to care for it.</quote> So apparently a baby is a parasite too? Oh this is rich.</quote> You give up your own self earned cash and free time to support it for at least 18 years.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TrevorBlack79 05/28/19 9:41:03 PM #75:	TrevorBlack79 posted... stop responding to karl, people. He's a troll. --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:922497366] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote>stop responding to karl, people. He's a troll.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboLaserGandhi 05/28/19 9:41:25 PM #76:	TrevorBlack79 posted... RoboLaserGandhi posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... Tmaster148 posted... The thing inside the mother is by all definition a parasite. Objectively wrong. A parasite by definition must be a different species than the host. We don't need to lie to justify a woman's right to bodily autonomy. Also, stop responding to karl, people. He's a troll. Context matters. In a strict biology context yes. But words are fluid. That's why citing a dictionary definition (especially an English one) is ridiculous. Yes, context matters. The context is that when people spout nonsense like "it's a parasite" or "it's a clump of cells" they're signaling the opposition to ignore them and anyone else who argues from a pro-choice perspective. This debate can only be won with superior arguments, and arguments like those mentioned above are literally counterproductive. You literally didn't counter this argument. You just said "ignore people". <cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted [p:922497382] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>The thing inside the mother is by all definition a parasite.</quote> Objectively wrong. A parasite by definition must be a different species than the host. We don't need to lie to justify a woman's right to bodily autonomy. Also, stop responding to karl, people. He's a troll.</quote> Context matters. In a strict biology context yes. But words are fluid. That's why citing a dictionary definition (especially an English one) is ridiculous.</quote> Yes, context matters. The context is that when people spout nonsense like "it's a parasite" or "it's a clump of cells" they're signaling the opposition to ignore them and anyone else who argues from a pro-choice perspective. This debate can only be won with superior arguments, and arguments like those mentioned above are literally counterproductive.</quote> You literally didn't counter this argument. You just said "ignore people".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TrevorBlack79 05/28/19 9:42:30 PM #77:	RoboLaserGandhi posted... You literally didn't counter this argument. The counter is the paragraph you just quoted. Learn to read. --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:922497429] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote>You literally didn't counter this argument.</quote> The counter is the paragraph you just quoted. Learn to read.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboLaserGandhi 05/28/19 9:43:10 PM #78:	karlpilkington4 posted... RoboLaserGandhi posted... karlpilkington4 posted... RoboLaserGandhi posted... He literally didn't. It's a gray area with no hard definition, and you also completely dodged his point with a definition that didn't even fit. It was extremely vague and you were hoping everyone would infer your point and see your way. Didn't happen. He did. A fetus is alive. It's irrelevant if its outside a womb or not. Is it breathing? Does it eat? It's alive. For fuck sake. Okay so is that spider you killed earlier. So are the bacteria you just genocided when you brushed your teeth. So are the millions of animals we (I especially) love to eat on a daily basis. So the fuck what if a proto-human undeveloped nugget creature is by book definition alive? The law understands when killing something is actually important or not. I'm talking about humans my man. Hope that clears it up. Do you know why it's bad to kill humans? I'll give you a hint: the answer isn't "just because". If you understand why, you'll understand why killing something that isn't sentient in the slightest is indeed okay. <cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted [p:922497451] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote> He literally didn't. It's a gray area with no hard definition, and you also completely dodged his point with a definition that didn't even fit. It was extremely vague and you were hoping everyone would infer your point and see your way. Didn't happen.</quote> He did. A fetus is alive. It's irrelevant if its outside a womb or not. Is it breathing? Does it eat? It's alive. For fuck sake.</quote> Okay so is that spider you killed earlier. So are the bacteria you just genocided when you brushed your teeth. So are the millions of animals we (I especially) love to eat on a daily basis. So the fuck what if a proto-human undeveloped nugget creature is by book definition alive? The law understands when killing something is actually important or not.</quote> I'm talking about humans my man. Hope that clears it up.</quote> Do you know why it's bad to kill humans? I'll give you a hint: the answer isn't "just because". If you understand why, you'll understand why killing something that isn't sentient in the slightest is indeed okay.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 05/28/19 9:44:12 PM #79:	Antifar posted... On May 20, the Missouri Department of Health and Senior Services notified Planned Parenthood of three issues that could impact license renewal, according to documents reviewed by CBS News and provided by Planned Parenthood. On May 22, Planned Parenthood said it would address two of them: adjusting who at the clinic provided the state-mandated counseling and adding an additional pelvic exam for abortion patients. But it said a third request was out of its control. According to Planned Parenthood, the health department said it was investigating "deficient practices," and needed to interview seven physicians who provide care at the clinic. Planned Parenthood said it could offer interviews only with two who are its employees. The other five physicians working at the facility are residents in training and not employed by Planned Parenthood, a spokesperson for the clinic said via email on Tuesday. The state has indicated that the result of those interviews could be "board review" in addition to "criminal proceedings," the spokesperson said. The medical residents declined to be interviewed for the state's investigation. But why? Literally 5 trainees causing this specific mess. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:922497490] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>On May 20, the Missouri Department of Health and Senior Services notified Planned Parenthood of three issues that could impact license renewal, according to documents reviewed by CBS News and provided by Planned Parenthood. On May 22, Planned Parenthood said it would address two of them: adjusting who at the clinic provided the state-mandated counseling and adding an additional pelvic exam for abortion patients. But it said a third request was out of its control. According to Planned Parenthood, the health department said it was investigating "deficient practices," and needed to interview seven physicians who provide care at the clinic. Planned Parenthood said it could offer interviews only with two who are its employees. The other five physicians working at the facility are residents in training and not employed by Planned Parenthood, a spokesperson for the clinic said via email on Tuesday. The state has indicated that the result of those interviews could be "board review" in addition to "criminal proceedings," the spokesperson said. The medical residents declined to be interviewed for the state's investigation.</quote> But why? Literally 5 trainees causing this specific mess.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 05/28/19 9:44:51 PM #80:	TrevorBlack79 posted... RoboLaserGandhi posted... You literally didn't counter this argument. The counter is the paragraph you just quoted. Learn to read. Imagine letting Trevor own you like this. LMAO --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:922497510] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote>You literally didn't counter this argument.</quote> The counter is the paragraph you just quoted. Learn to read.</quote> Imagine letting Trevor own you like this. LMAO</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 05/28/19 9:45:00 PM #81:	karlpilkington4 posted... sktgamer_13dude posted... Also heres you agreeing with someone that abortion is labeled as murder https://imgur.com/a/WanZxUp Cant wait for you to bullshit your way out of this one. That's incredibly weak. Try again I literally agreed with someone calling abortion murder, but I never called it murder! Never change, do you? --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:922497519] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>Also heres you agreeing with someone that abortion is labeled as murder https://imgur.com/a/WanZxUp Cant wait for you to bullshit your way out of this one.</quote> That's incredibly weak. Try again</quote> I literally agreed with someone calling abortion murder, but I never called it murder! Never change, do you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 05/28/19 9:46:00 PM #82:	RoboLaserGandhi posted... karlpilkington4 posted... RoboLaserGandhi posted... karlpilkington4 posted... RoboLaserGandhi posted... He literally didn't. It's a gray area with no hard definition, and you also completely dodged his point with a definition that didn't even fit. It was extremely vague and you were hoping everyone would infer your point and see your way. Didn't happen. He did. A fetus is alive. It's irrelevant if its outside a womb or not. Is it breathing? Does it eat? It's alive. For fuck sake. Okay so is that spider you killed earlier. So are the bacteria you just genocided when you brushed your teeth. So are the millions of animals we (I especially) love to eat on a daily basis. So the fuck what if a proto-human undeveloped nugget creature is by book definition alive? The law understands when killing something is actually important or not. I'm talking about humans my man. Hope that clears it up. Do you know why it's bad to kill humans? I'll give you a hint: the answer isn't "just because". If you understand why, you'll understand why killing something that isn't sentient in the slightest is indeed okay. Missouri disagrees. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:922497552] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote> He literally didn't. It's a gray area with no hard definition, and you also completely dodged his point with a definition that didn't even fit. It was extremely vague and you were hoping everyone would infer your point and see your way. Didn't happen.</quote> He did. A fetus is alive. It's irrelevant if its outside a womb or not. Is it breathing? Does it eat? It's alive. For fuck sake.</quote> Okay so is that spider you killed earlier. So are the bacteria you just genocided when you brushed your teeth. So are the millions of animals we (I especially) love to eat on a daily basis. So the fuck what if a proto-human undeveloped nugget creature is by book definition alive? The law understands when killing something is actually important or not.</quote> I'm talking about humans my man. Hope that clears it up.</quote> Do you know why it's bad to kill humans? I'll give you a hint: the answer isn't "just because". If you understand why, you'll understand why killing something that isn't sentient in the slightest is indeed okay.</quote> Missouri disagrees.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 05/28/19 9:47:16 PM #83:	sktgamer_13dude posted... karlpilkington4 posted... sktgamer_13dude posted... Also heres you agreeing with someone that abortion is labeled as murder https://imgur.com/a/WanZxUp Cant wait for you to bullshit your way out of this one. That's incredibly weak. Try again I literally agreed with someone calling abortion murder, but I never called it murder! Never change, do you? Thinking something is funny enough to quote, doesnt mean I agree with it. Which is why you havent found a post where I said it was murder. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:922497616] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>Also heres you agreeing with someone that abortion is labeled as murder https://imgur.com/a/WanZxUp Cant wait for you to bullshit your way out of this one.</quote> That's incredibly weak. Try again</quote> I literally agreed with someone calling abortion murder, but I never called it murder! Never change, do you?</quote> Thinking something is funny enough to quote, doesnt mean I agree with it. Which is why you havent found a post where I said it was murder.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 05/28/19 9:47:24 PM #84:	karlpilkington4 posted... RoboLaserGandhi posted... karlpilkington4 posted... RoboLaserGandhi posted... karlpilkington4 posted... RoboLaserGandhi posted... He literally didn't. It's a gray area with no hard definition, and you also completely dodged his point with a definition that didn't even fit. It was extremely vague and you were hoping everyone would infer your point and see your way. Didn't happen. He did. A fetus is alive. It's irrelevant if its outside a womb or not. Is it breathing? Does it eat? It's alive. For fuck sake. Okay so is that spider you killed earlier. So are the bacteria you just genocided when you brushed your teeth. So are the millions of animals we (I especially) love to eat on a daily basis. So the fuck what if a proto-human undeveloped nugget creature is by book definition alive? The law understands when killing something is actually important or not. I'm talking about humans my man. Hope that clears it up. Do you know why it's bad to kill humans? I'll give you a hint: the answer isn't "just because". If you understand why, you'll understand why killing something that isn't sentient in the slightest is indeed okay. Missouri disagrees. States used to believe blacks werent human. Thats not an argument. --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:922497625] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote> He literally didn't. It's a gray area with no hard definition, and you also completely dodged his point with a definition that didn't even fit. It was extremely vague and you were hoping everyone would infer your point and see your way. Didn't happen.</quote> He did. A fetus is alive. It's irrelevant if its outside a womb or not. Is it breathing? Does it eat? It's alive. For fuck sake.</quote> Okay so is that spider you killed earlier. So are the bacteria you just genocided when you brushed your teeth. So are the millions of animals we (I especially) love to eat on a daily basis. So the fuck what if a proto-human undeveloped nugget creature is by book definition alive? The law understands when killing something is actually important or not.</quote> I'm talking about humans my man. Hope that clears it up.</quote> Do you know why it's bad to kill humans? I'll give you a hint: the answer isn't "just because". If you understand why, you'll understand why killing something that isn't sentient in the slightest is indeed okay.</quote> Missouri disagrees.</quote> States used to believe blacks werent human. Thats not an argument.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 05/28/19 9:48:56 PM #85:	sktgamer_13dude posted... karlpilkington4 posted... RoboLaserGandhi posted... karlpilkington4 posted... RoboLaserGandhi posted... karlpilkington4 posted... RoboLaserGandhi posted... He literally didn't. It's a gray area with no hard definition, and you also completely dodged his point with a definition that didn't even fit. It was extremely vague and you were hoping everyone would infer your point and see your way. Didn't happen. He did. A fetus is alive. It's irrelevant if its outside a womb or not. Is it breathing? Does it eat? It's alive. For fuck sake. Okay so is that spider you killed earlier. So are the bacteria you just genocided when you brushed your teeth. So are the millions of animals we (I especially) love to eat on a daily basis. So the fuck what if a proto-human undeveloped nugget creature is by book definition alive? The law understands when killing something is actually important or not. I'm talking about humans my man. Hope that clears it up. Do you know why it's bad to kill humans? I'll give you a hint: the answer isn't "just because". If you understand why, you'll understand why killing something that isn't sentient in the slightest is indeed okay. Missouri disagrees. States used to believe blacks werent human. Thats not an argument. "Missouri disagrees" wasn't an argument. It was a fact. But go ahead and appeal to emotion. It's never worked for you before, but who knows, the 15th time is a charm. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:922497683] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote> He literally didn't. It's a gray area with no hard definition, and you also completely dodged his point with a definition that didn't even fit. It was extremely vague and you were hoping everyone would infer your point and see your way. Didn't happen.</quote> He did. A fetus is alive. It's irrelevant if its outside a womb or not. Is it breathing? Does it eat? It's alive. For fuck sake.</quote> Okay so is that spider you killed earlier. So are the bacteria you just genocided when you brushed your teeth. So are the millions of animals we (I especially) love to eat on a daily basis. So the fuck what if a proto-human undeveloped nugget creature is by book definition alive? The law understands when killing something is actually important or not.</quote> I'm talking about humans my man. Hope that clears it up.</quote> Do you know why it's bad to kill humans? I'll give you a hint: the answer isn't "just because". If you understand why, you'll understand why killing something that isn't sentient in the slightest is indeed okay.</quote> Missouri disagrees.</quote> States used to believe blacks werent human. Thats not an argument.</quote> "Missouri disagrees" wasn't an argument. It was a fact. But go ahead and appeal to emotion. It's never worked for you before, but who knows, the 15th time is a charm.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 05/28/19 9:50:41 PM #86:	"Stop killing INNOCENT BABIES. It's MURDER. All life is PRECIOUS" - the facts and logic right that doesn't virtue signal --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:922497763] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote>"Stop killing INNOCENT BABIES. It's MURDER. All life is PRECIOUS" - the facts and logic right that doesn't virtue signal</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 05/28/19 9:51:28 PM #87:	>says my argument is an appeal to emotion >all arguments you provide against abortion are an appeal to emotion you-tried.jpg --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:922497793] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote>>says my argument is an appeal to emotion >all arguments you provide against abortion are an appeal to emotion you-tried.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 05/28/19 9:52:51 PM #88:	Just tell Karl he's not fit to define life. His whole argument hinges on that. He's got me on ignore so he can't see what I post. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:922497846] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote>Just tell Karl he's not fit to define life. His whole argument hinges on that. He's got me on ignore so he can't see what I post.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 05/28/19 9:54:01 PM #89:	sktgamer_13dude posted... >says my argument is an appeal to emotion >all arguments you provide against abortion are an appeal to emotion you-tried.jpg Killing a life that will turn into a full fledged human, simply because people are irresponsible, is not about emotion. Take your own picture advice. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:922497888] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>>says my argument is an appeal to emotion >all arguments you provide against abortion are an appeal to emotion you-tried.jpg</quote> Killing a life that will turn into a full fledged human, simply because people are irresponsible, is not about emotion. Take your own picture advice.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 05/28/19 9:54:05 PM #90:	CyricZ posted... Just tell Karl he's not fit to define life. His whole argument hinges on that. He's got me on ignore so he can't see what I post. But abortion-is-bad.org is fit to define life!!!! --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:922497893] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote>Just tell Karl he's not fit to define life. His whole argument hinges on that. He's got me on ignore so he can't see what I post.</quote> But abortion-is-bad.org is fit to define life!!!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 05/28/19 9:55:02 PM #91:	CyricZ posted... Just tell Karl he's not fit to define life. His whole argument hinges on that. He's got me on ignore so he can't see what I post. I don't have you on ignore anymore. I just do it in my head now. I only have like 4 people on my ignore list now, because they are literally just full fledged trolls. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:922497934] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote>Just tell Karl he's not fit to define life. His whole argument hinges on that. He's got me on ignore so he can't see what I post.</quote> I don't have you on ignore anymore. I just do it in my head now. I only have like 4 people on my ignore list now, because they are literally just full fledged trolls.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 05/28/19 9:55:47 PM #92:	karlpilkington4 posted... sktgamer_13dude posted... >says my argument is an appeal to emotion >all arguments you provide against abortion are an appeal to emotion you-tried.jpg Killing a life that will turn into a full fledged human, simply because people are irresponsible, is not about emotion. Take your own picture advice. Yes, it is. Considering the baby isnt viable for a large portion of the pregnancy. Which is why you completely ignore my Plan B example. --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:922497964] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>>says my argument is an appeal to emotion >all arguments you provide against abortion are an appeal to emotion you-tried.jpg</quote> Killing a life that will turn into a full fledged human, simply because people are irresponsible, is not about emotion. Take your own picture advice.</quote> Yes, it is. Considering the baby isnt viable for a large portion of the pregnancy. Which is why you completely ignore my Plan B example.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 05/28/19 9:56:02 PM #93:	karlpilkington4 posted... CyricZ posted... Just tell Karl he's not fit to define life. His whole argument hinges on that. He's got me on ignore so he can't see what I post. I don't have you on ignore anymore. I just do it in my head now. I only have like 4 people on my ignore list now, because they are literally just full fledged trolls. You have yourself on ignore? --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:922497974] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote>Just tell Karl he's not fit to define life. His whole argument hinges on that. He's got me on ignore so he can't see what I post.</quote> I don't have you on ignore anymore. I just do it in my head now. I only have like 4 people on my ignore list now, because they are literally just full fledged trolls.</quote> You have yourself on ignore?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HiddenRoar 05/28/19 9:57:27 PM #94:	If you're a strong proponent of evolution, then you'd realize that the body has changed little in regards to how pregnancy works. If nurturing a fetus was so detrimental to the health of women, the way that pro-choice folks put it, then the mechanisms behind pregnancy would have changed into something less detrimental over the course of millions of years, no? Practically every other mammal (with the except of like two or three) conceives pretty much through the same method. Tmaster148 posted... The thing inside the mother is by all definition a parasite. A living organism that steals from the host without giving back anything positive in return. Now a women might want to host the parasite so it develops into a baby after 9 months, but that is her choice after all. The whole "It's a parasite" line of thought doesn't mean much. Abortions are banned after a certain period by which sufficient development has occurred, even though it's still a parasite, by your definition. And the "viable outside the womb" isn't even a hard set date, now that we know steroids can increase the likelihood of survival for preterms that were once thought of, at that period, a drawn conclusion, along with other medical advances. <cite>HiddenRoar posted [p:922498024] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote>If you're a strong proponent of evolution, then you'd realize that the body has changed little in regards to how pregnancy works. If nurturing a fetus was so detrimental to the health of women, the way that pro-choice folks put it, then the mechanisms behind pregnancy would have changed into something less detrimental over the course of millions of years, no? Practically every other mammal (with the except of like two or three) conceives pretty much through the same method. <cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>The thing inside the mother is by all definition a parasite. A living organism that steals from the host without giving back anything positive in return. Now a women might want to host the parasite so it develops into a baby after 9 months, but that is her choice after all.</quote> The whole "It's a parasite" line of thought doesn't mean much. Abortions are banned after a certain period by which sufficient development has occurred, even though it's still a parasite, by your definition. And the "viable outside the womb" isn't even a hard set date, now that we know steroids can increase the likelihood of survival for preterms that were once thought of, at that period, a drawn conclusion, along with other medical advances.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 05/28/19 9:57:27 PM #95:	karlpilkington4 posted... "Missouri disagrees" wasn't an argument. It was a fact. But go ahead and appeal to emotion. It's never worked for you before, but who knows, the 15th time is a charm. Banning abortion is basically the definition of appealing to emotion. Abortion, or rather it being an option, has tangible benefits to society. What do we gain from hundreds of thousands of children being born to unsuitable parents? That's more poverty, more neglect, more abuse, more orphans. Best to nip it in the bud while the woman still has control. It's logical and I'd even say it's the ethical thing to not force any pregnancy that isn't wanted. You need to look at the big picture. It doesn't help that the same states hellbent on banning abortion clutch their pearls at the thought of sex ed beyond "Don't have sex if you're not a married couple attempting to procreate". --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:922498025] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>"Missouri disagrees" wasn't an argument. It was a fact. But go ahead and appeal to emotion. It's never worked for you before, but who knows, the 15th time is a charm.</quote> Banning abortion is basically the definition of appealing to emotion. Abortion, or rather it being an option, has tangible benefits to society. What do we gain from hundreds of thousands of children being born to unsuitable parents? That's more poverty, more neglect, more abuse, more orphans. Best to nip it in the bud while the woman still has control. It's logical and I'd even say it's the ethical thing to not force any pregnancy that isn't wanted. You need to look at the big picture. It doesn't help that the same states hellbent on banning abortion clutch their pearls at the thought of sex ed beyond "Don't have sex if you're not a married couple attempting to procreate".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 05/28/19 9:58:58 PM #96:	sktgamer_13dude posted... karlpilkington4 posted... CyricZ posted... Just tell Karl he's not fit to define life. His whole argument hinges on that. He's got me on ignore so he can't see what I post. I don't have you on ignore anymore. I just do it in my head now. I only have like 4 people on my ignore list now, because they are literally just full fledged trolls. You have yourself on ignore? Oh wow, you sure got me! --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:922498088] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote>Just tell Karl he's not fit to define life. His whole argument hinges on that. He's got me on ignore so he can't see what I post.</quote> I don't have you on ignore anymore. I just do it in my head now. I only have like 4 people on my ignore list now, because they are literally just full fledged trolls.</quote> You have yourself on ignore?</quote> Oh wow, you sure got me!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 05/28/19 10:00:53 PM #97:	karlpilkington4 posted... sktgamer_13dude posted... >says my argument is an appeal to emotion >all arguments you provide against abortion are an appeal to emotion you-tried.jpg Killing a life that will turn into a full fledged human, simply because people are irresponsible, is not about emotion. Take your own picture advice. "You are irresponsible, now please carry this baby healthily to term and treat it well for 18 years or else!" It is well known that the best thing to do with an irresponsible person is to give them as much responsibility as possible. That always works out best for everyone else. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:922498174] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>>says my argument is an appeal to emotion >all arguments you provide against abortion are an appeal to emotion you-tried.jpg</quote> Killing a life that will turn into a full fledged human, simply because people are irresponsible, is not about emotion. Take your own picture advice.</quote> "You are irresponsible, now please carry this baby healthily to term and treat it well for 18 years or else!" It is well known that the best thing to do with an irresponsible person is to give them as much responsibility as possible. That always works out best for everyone else.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboLaserGandhi 05/28/19 10:04:33 PM #98:	karlpilkington4 posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... RoboLaserGandhi posted... You literally didn't counter this argument. The counter is the paragraph you just quoted. Learn to read. Imagine letting Trevor own you like this. LMAO Literally read what you wrote. You only talked about his argument and how it should be addressed. You didn't address it. So let's hear it. Come on. <cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted [p:922498325] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote>You literally didn't counter this argument.</quote> The counter is the paragraph you just quoted. Learn to read.</quote> Imagine letting Trevor own you like this. LMAO</quote> Literally read what you wrote. You only talked about his argument and how it should be addressed. You didn't address it. So let's hear it. Come on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 05/28/19 10:05:06 PM #99:	hockeybub89 posted... karlpilkington4 posted... "Missouri disagrees" wasn't an argument. It was a fact. But go ahead and appeal to emotion. It's never worked for you before, but who knows, the 15th time is a charm. Banning abortion is basically the definition of appealing to emotion. Abortion, or rather it being an option, has tangible benefits to society. What do we gain from hundreds of thousands of children being born to unsuitable parents? That's more poverty, more neglect, more abuse, more orphans. Best to nip it in the bud while the woman still has control. It's logical and I'd even say it's the ethical thing to not force any pregnancy that isn't wanted. You need to look at the big picture. It doesn't help that the same states hellbent on banning abortion clutch their pearls at the thought of sex ed beyond "Don't have sex if you're not a married couple attempting to procreate". Alot of your premise I disagree with for one. If abortion is illegal, suddenly less people have it as an option. They then take the responsibility which they neglected in the first place, and don't have pregnancies because they took the easy to access precautions (birth control). Adoptions are real, we simply need to make it cheaper (adoption agencies charge thousands of dollars) A life is a life. And killing innocents is wrong for a reason. It has little to do with emotion, it has to do with a society that is based on consistency and evolution to evolve the species. Hopefully that made sense. I'm getting tired. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:922498345] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>"Missouri disagrees" wasn't an argument. It was a fact. But go ahead and appeal to emotion. It's never worked for you before, but who knows, the 15th time is a charm.</quote> Banning abortion is basically the definition of appealing to emotion. Abortion, or rather it being an option, has tangible benefits to society. What do we gain from hundreds of thousands of children being born to unsuitable parents? That's more poverty, more neglect, more abuse, more orphans. Best to nip it in the bud while the woman still has control. It's logical and I'd even say it's the ethical thing to not force any pregnancy that isn't wanted. You need to look at the big picture. It doesn't help that the same states hellbent on banning abortion clutch their pearls at the thought of sex ed beyond "Don't have sex if you're not a married couple attempting to procreate".</quote> Alot of your premise I disagree with for one. If abortion is illegal, suddenly less people have it as an option. They then take the responsibility which they neglected in the first place, and don't have pregnancies because they took the easy to access precautions (birth control). Adoptions are real, we simply need to make it cheaper (adoption agencies charge thousands of dollars) A life is a life. And killing innocents is wrong for a reason. It has little to do with emotion, it has to do with a society that is based on consistency and evolution to evolve the species. Hopefully that made sense. I'm getting tired.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 05/28/19 10:05:56 PM #100:	hockeybub89 posted... karlpilkington4 posted... "Missouri disagrees" wasn't an argument. It was a fact. But go ahead and appeal to emotion. It's never worked for you before, but who knows, the 15th time is a charm. Banning abortion is basically the definition of appealing to emotion. Abortion, or rather it being an option, has tangible benefits to society. What do we gain from hundreds of thousands of children being born to unsuitable parents? That's more poverty, more neglect, more abuse, more orphans. Best to nip it in the bud while the woman still has control. It's logical and I'd even say it's the ethical thing to not force any pregnancy that isn't wanted. You need to look at the big picture. It doesn't help that the same states hellbent on banning abortion clutch their pearls at the thought of sex ed beyond "Don't have sex if you're not a married couple attempting to procreate". I mean there's an even simpler way to take it. There are literally hundreds of eggs in every single woman. That's hundreds of potential lives that don't get seen to birth. The body aborts them all on its own. The typical response is that life begins at fertilization, and my question to that is... why? Who defined that? The answer is "people who wanted to define it that way", which is to say that defining life at fertilization is entirely arbitrary. The fertilized egg is entirely dependent on the mother to nourish it. It absolutely cannot grow on its own. If you want to call it "life", that's your business, but it is absolutely without a doubt not "viable". Viability is at the center of the abortion argument as far as the law is concerned, because Roe v. Wade very specifically tried to avoid defining "life" as they felt (and rightly so) that they were not in a place to make that judgment. This is why abortions in the third trimester are not allowed except at the peril of the mother's life. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:922498378] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote>"Missouri disagrees" wasn't an argument. It was a fact. But go ahead and appeal to emotion. It's never worked for you before, but who knows, the 15th time is a charm.</quote> Banning abortion is basically the definition of appealing to emotion. Abortion, or rather it being an option, has tangible benefits to society. What do we gain from hundreds of thousands of children being born to unsuitable parents? That's more poverty, more neglect, more abuse, more orphans. Best to nip it in the bud while the woman still has control. It's logical and I'd even say it's the ethical thing to not force any pregnancy that isn't wanted. You need to look at the big picture. It doesn't help that the same states hellbent on banning abortion clutch their pearls at the thought of sex ed beyond "Don't have sex if you're not a married couple attempting to procreate".</quote> I mean there's an even simpler way to take it. There are literally hundreds of eggs in every single woman. That's hundreds of potential lives that don't get seen to birth. The body aborts them all on its own. The typical response is that life begins at fertilization, and my question to that is... why? Who defined that? The answer is "people who wanted to define it that way", which is to say that defining life at fertilization is entirely arbitrary. The fertilized egg is entirely dependent on the mother to nourish it. It absolutely cannot grow on its own. If you want to call it "life", that's your business, but it is absolutely without a doubt not "viable". Viability is at the center of the abortion argument as far as the law is concerned, because Roe v. Wade very specifically tried to avoid defining "life" as they felt (and rightly so) that they were not in a place to make that judgment. This is why abortions in the third trimester are not allowed except at the peril of the mother's life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrincessCadance 05/28/19 10:09:17 PM #101:	These clinics shouldn't be forced to shut down but they shouldn't be publicly funded either. --- Donkey Kong Country 2 ~ Clouds Away > https://youtu.be/hMZVa6JFQj8 http://error1355.com/ce/PrincessCadance.html <cite>PrincessCadance posted [p:922498504] in Missouri's... [t:77746377]...</cite> <quote>These clinics shouldn't be forced to shut down but they shouldn't be publicly funded either.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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