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treewojima
05/28/19 2:37:50 PM
#52:


Or did you perhaps mean this:

1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public
purposes.
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
5. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank
with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the
State.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the
bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally
in accordance with a common plan.
8. Equal liability of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for
agriculture.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of
all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of childrens
factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial
production, &c, &c.


which is the framework he lays out for a nation of that time period to progress to communism

definitely getting a Nazi vibe, mhm
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Oatcakes
05/28/19 2:50:27 PM
#53:


It's in the name!!!!!

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UnholyMudcrab
05/28/19 2:51:00 PM
#54:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
RoadsterUFO posted...
Explain how Nazis using the state to take over and seize the means of production


you are a shining example of the DunningKruger effect

It's really quite impressive
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Zero_Destroyer
05/28/19 2:59:58 PM
#55:


The whole point of saying "Nazis were socialist" is to try and shoehorn them in with the left, but it becomes very difficult to earnestly do this when the Nazis were notoriously aggressive at purging left-wing elements of their party, with left-wing political dissidents (like Communists and Socialists...) being among the first "purged" peoples in Nazi Germany.

There's a good short form (i..e still long, but shorter than reading a dozen history books) video covering this in detail:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUFvG4RpwJI" data-time="

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On_The_Edge
05/28/19 3:03:24 PM
#56:


I'd have a lot more sympathy for people who are upset that the right tries to shoehorn nazis in with the left if people on the left weren't constantly trying to shoehorn the KKK, alt right and also the nazis in with anyone who is right of bernie sanders
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hockeybub89
05/28/19 3:04:59 PM
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On_The_Edge posted...
I'd have a lot more sympathy for people who are upset that the right tries to shoehorn nazis in with the left if people on the left weren't constantly trying to shoehorn the KKK, alt right and also the nazis in with anyone who is right of bernie sanders

So the left calls itself Nazis?
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On_The_Edge
05/28/19 5:53:31 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
I'd have a lot more sympathy for people who are upset that the right tries to shoehorn nazis in with the left if people on the left weren't constantly trying to shoehorn the KKK, alt right and also the nazis in with anyone who is right of bernie sanders

So the left calls itself Nazis?

if you are to the right of sanders yes, there are plenty of liberals who get called nazis for not being progressive enough
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FL81
05/28/19 6:00:38 PM
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Zero_Destroyer posted...
The whole point of saying "Nazis were socialist" is to try and shoehorn them in with the left, but it becomes very difficult to earnestly do this when the Nazis were notoriously aggressive at purging left-wing elements of their party, with left-wing political dissidents (like Communists and Socialists...) being among the first "purged" peoples in Nazi Germany.

There's a good short form (i..e still long, but shorter than reading a dozen history books) video covering this in detail:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUFvG4RpwJI" data-time="

the nazis were right-wing socialists
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Antifar
05/28/19 6:03:12 PM
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Ruvan22
05/28/19 6:09:56 PM
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On_The_Edge posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
I'd have a lot more sympathy for people who are upset that the right tries to shoehorn nazis in with the left if people on the left weren't constantly trying to shoehorn the KKK, alt right and also the nazis in with anyone who is right of bernie sanders

So the left calls itself Nazis?

if you are to the right of sanders yes, there are plenty of liberals who get called nazis for not being progressive enough


Are you saying the majority of liberals (over half) call anybody right of Sanders a Nazi? Or a few outliers who make a name for themselves by saying exaggerated statements?
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RoboLaserGandhi
05/28/19 6:11:28 PM
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You're being an elitist. Any rational person can tell why someone of average knowledge would think the National Socialist party is a party for socialists.
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On_The_Edge
05/29/19 11:45:57 AM
#64:


Ruvan22 posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
I'd have a lot more sympathy for people who are upset that the right tries to shoehorn nazis in with the left if people on the left weren't constantly trying to shoehorn the KKK, alt right and also the nazis in with anyone who is right of bernie sanders

So the left calls itself Nazis?

if you are to the right of sanders yes, there are plenty of liberals who get called nazis for not being progressive enough


Are you saying the majority of liberals (over half) call anybody right of Sanders a Nazi? Or a few outliers who make a name for themselves by saying exaggerated statements?

no when did I say the majority of liberals?
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bladegash
05/29/19 12:53:19 PM
#66:


On_The_Edge posted...
I'd have a lot more sympathy for people who are upset that the right tries to shoehorn nazis in with the left if people on the left weren't constantly trying to shoehorn the KKK, alt right and also the nazis in with anyone who is right of bernie sanders


This.

This right fucking here.

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Ruvan22
05/29/19 6:33:52 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
bladegash posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
I'd have a lot more sympathy for people who are upset that the right tries to shoehorn nazis in with the left if people on the left weren't constantly trying to shoehorn the KKK, alt right and also the nazis in with anyone who is right of bernie sanders


This.

This right fucking here.

THANK YOU


What was a recent incident where the majority of "the left" called somebody a Nazi for being "right of Sanders"?
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treewojima
05/29/19 6:35:13 PM
#69:


oh my god why is this topic still alive
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FreshSushi
05/29/19 6:35:48 PM
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basically only by a scion of conservatives who are especially stupid

they'll also be the ones who will claim to be liberals because they're really classical liberals, when that just means conservative, and they're also not classical liberals
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Zeeak4444
05/29/19 7:06:37 PM
#72:


MakoReizei posted...
it's funny how bent out of shape some people get over this. like you're committing heresy


It's more like exasperation.

Dealing with stupidity takes a lot out of you.
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Zeeak4444
05/29/19 7:13:47 PM
#73:


RoboLaserGandhi posted...
You're being an elitist. Any rational person can tell why someone of average knowledge would think the National Socialist party is a party for socialists.


Uneducated "rational" people.

Low information voters.

Yes, people like that are unfortunately fooled because they take things at face value. I'm sure they fall for con men too for the same reason.
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Ruvan22
05/29/19 8:00:45 PM
#74:


fenderbender321 posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
bladegash posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
I'd have a lot more sympathy for people who are upset that the right tries to shoehorn nazis in with the left if people on the left weren't constantly trying to shoehorn the KKK, alt right and also the nazis in with anyone who is right of bernie sanders


This.

This right fucking here.

THANK YOU


What was a recent incident where the majority of "the left" called somebody a Nazi for being "right of Sanders"?


he was exaggerating. But the point remains.


So humor me - what is "the point"?
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Fuparulez
05/29/19 8:07:53 PM
#75:


You guys do some serious mental gymnastics to justify being leftists.
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