Current Events > Middle east Christians say political correctness is figuratively killing them

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The article I posted is non biased towards any religion. Your article literally is a Muslim based website excuse me if I think mine has more credibility.

PizzaPatty posted...

Articles like the one posted in this topic are very fake news made up to spread the flames of Islamophobia in America when in actuality there is very little religious persecution in Muslim majority countries. Islam is very accepting of and tolerant of other religions.
People need to educate themselves on what Islam really is like I have and they will see how beautiful and tolerant it really is.

https://www.islamreligion.com/articles/207/viewall/tolerance-of-prophet-towards-other-religions/

I mentioned this earlier but unsurprisingly no one responded to it good to see someone else add their voice, friend
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And the teachings of a religion is not the same thing as what people actually do

Christianity teaches to be loving to all people. But many people calling themselves Christians can be very hateful

Same for muslims

Zikten posted...

The article I posted is non biased towards any religion. Your article literally is a Muslim based website excuse me if I think mine has more credibility.

Is PBS unbiased enough for you?

https://www.pbs.org/empires/islam/faithpeople.html
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Zikten posted...

And the teachings of a religion is not the same thing as what people actually do

Christianity teaches to be loving to all people. But many people calling themselves Christians can be very hateful

Same for muslims

Yeah, agreed!
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Shablagoo posted...

Zikten posted...

And the teachings of a religion is not the same thing as what people actually do

Christianity teaches to be loving to all people. But many people calling themselves Christians can be very hateful

Same for muslims

Yeah, we agree. What exactly are you arguing here? lol

I'm saying that I posted an article that interviewed middle eastern Christians who report Muslims being hateful towards them and non tolerant

Shablagoo posted...

Zikten posted...

The article I posted is non biased towards any religion. Your article literally is a Muslim based website excuse me if I think mine has more credibility.

Is PBS unbiased enough for you?

https://www.pbs.org/empires/islam/faithpeople.html

That's just an explanation of Islam
I know what the teachings of Islam are. That doesn't change the fact that people in the middle East do a campaign of oppression towards non Muslims. They won't hire you you, they won't let their kids marry your kids. They won't let you rent an apartment. Or go to school. And if ISIS comes to the town they stand by and let things happen

https://www.wsj.com/articles/anti-christian-violence-surges-in-egypt-prompting-an-exodus-11556290800

I'm certain there a good Muslims, just like there are good Christians. That said, there are bad Christians and bad Muslims, and the bad Muslims here are persecuting Christians.
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Zikten posted...

Shablagoo posted...

Zikten posted...

The article I posted is non biased towards any religion. Your article literally is a Muslim based website excuse me if I think mine has more credibility.

Is PBS unbiased enough for you?

https://www.pbs.org/empires/islam/faithpeople.html

That's just an explanation of Islam
I know what the teachings of Islam are. That doesn't change the fact that people in the middle East do a campaign of oppression towards non Muslims. They won't hire you you, they won't let their kids marry your kids. They won't let you rent an apartment. Or go to school. And if ISIS comes to the town they stand by and let things happen

Right, so if they arent following the teachings of the Quran, then are they really Muslims? If they are, should we really use them as an example by which to criticize Islam? That doesnt make sense to me.
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You are making the mistake of thinking my whole point relies on them being Muslim

It doesn't. The issue is that someone, of any religion, is commiting genocide. And that's not ok

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2016/12/22/opinion/egypts-cruelty-to-christians.amp.html

Im sure its all just fake news though

christians are heavily persecuted in many (not all) parts of the middle east and there's no disputing that. for some reason its worse today than like 100 years ago. the different religions lived alongside one another relatively peacefully not that long ago in that region
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Zikten posted...

You are making the mistake of thinking my whole point relies on them being Muslim

It doesn't. The issue is that someone, of any religion, is commiting genocide. And that's not ok

You can find the actual events horrific while also acknowledging that certain posters habitually post horrific stories in order to demonize certain groups.

Both are bad things. One is something that this board can control.
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Zikten posted...

You are making the mistake of thinking my whole point relies on them being Muslim

It doesn't. The issue is that someone, of any religion, is commiting genocide. And that's not ok

Oh ok for sure, we are in total agreement. Theres also extreme persecution of Muslims going on in China right now, with concentration camps and such, for example.
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Shablagoo posted...

Zikten posted...

Shablagoo posted...

Zikten posted...

The article I posted is non biased towards any religion. Your article literally is a Muslim based website excuse me if I think mine has more credibility.

Is PBS unbiased enough for you?

https://www.pbs.org/empires/islam/faithpeople.html

That's just an explanation of Islam
I know what the teachings of Islam are. That doesn't change the fact that people in the middle East do a campaign of oppression towards non Muslims. They won't hire you you, they won't let their kids marry your kids. They won't let you rent an apartment. Or go to school. And if ISIS comes to the town they stand by and let things happen

Right, so if they arent following the teachings of the Quran, then are they really Muslims? If they are, should we really use them as an example by which to criticize Islam? That doesnt make sense to me.

Where is anyone criticizing Islam?

ThyCorndog posted...

christians are heavily persecuted in many (not all) parts of the middle east and there's no disputing that. for some reason its worse today than like 100 years ago. the different religions lived alongside one another relatively peacefully not that long ago in that region

I blame 9/11 and subsequent nonsensical invasion of Iraq for that.
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@Cleo_II Idk, our whole conversation started because of an exchange @Zikten was having with @COVxy

It definitely happens on this board, though I dont see anything particularly overt in this topic.
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Shablagoo posted...

Right, so if they arent following the teachings of the Quran, then are they really Muslims? If they are, should we really use them as an example by which to criticize Islam? That doesnt make sense to me.

Classic "No True Scotsman" Fallacy.
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A lot of angry ostriches ITT
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Maze_ posted...

Zikten posted...

Shablagoo posted...

@Zikten hes saying the same thing you just said it doesnt matter what religion they are.

Then why is he arguing with me?

S/he's saying that it is unfair to blame Islam because terrorists would be terrorists doing terrorist related things in the Middle East regardless of what religion was the one that took root there.

AKA: The issue isn't the religion, it's the geo-political situation, resources, boarder etc just being funneled through whatever cult happened to grow in that spot. So therefore you should lay off knocking the religion

He's wrong on like 8 different levels but that is what he is saying.

Funny how you're able to reasonably identify all the correct issues for the growing conflicts, but you still decide he's wrong anyways because reasons.
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HiddenLurker posted...

Shablagoo posted...

Right, so if they arent following the teachings of the Quran, then are they really Muslims? If they are, should we really use them as an example by which to criticize Islam? That doesnt make sense to me.

Classic "No True Scotsman" Fallacy.

Perhaps it would be, if the overwhelmingly vast majority of the 1.8 billion (and growing) Muslims on the planet werent doing this sort of thing.

This is like someone saying, Wow that white guy was sure a nasty serial killer.

Yeah but most white people arent serial killers.

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