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umax555 05/21/19 1:09:12 AM #51:	Strider102 posted... For 7 seasons Dany has shown us glimpses of how cruel she can be. Problem is she never directed that anger and cruelty to innocent men, women, and children. In the span of 2-3 episodes she undergoes a huge character shift to being the type of person she swore she'd never be. If it had been paced better nobody would be saying shit. It makes more sense if you consider what had happened right before that. She lost Jorah and MIssandei, and then just prior to the battle she thought she had been betrayed by several of her most loyal followers, including the person she loved most. The impulses to assert her power were already there, and those events tipped her over the edge. It's not bad writing, you just have to look a little deeper. <cite>umax555 posted [p:922168436] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote><cite>Strider102 posted...</cite> <quote>For 7 seasons Dany has shown us glimpses of how cruel she can be. Problem is she never directed that anger and cruelty to innocent men, women, and children. In the span of 2-3 episodes she undergoes a huge character shift to being the type of person she swore she'd never be. If it had been paced better nobody would be saying shit.</quote> It makes more sense if you consider what had happened right before that. She lost Jorah and MIssandei, and then just prior to the battle she thought she had been betrayed by several of her most loyal followers, including the person she loved most. The impulses to assert her power were already there, and those events tipped her over the edge. It's not bad writing, you just have to look a little deeper.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shnangyboos 05/21/19 1:11:14 AM #52:	No, it's bad writing. It's cool of you're fine with it, but don't expect everyone to be. --- How's my posting? Call http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/182361-human-resource-machine for any comments or concerns. <cite>shnangyboos posted [p:922168481] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote>No, it's bad writing. It's cool of you're fine with it, but don't expect everyone to be.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 05/21/19 1:25:09 AM #53:	A major character we've watched for 8 years suddenly snapping and going full evil for a whopping 20-30 minutes is sloppy. This last season should have been 2 full seasons. The romance between Jon and Dany also suffered from the rushed pacing. Which was meant to be another major element of the finale. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:922168810] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote>A major character we've watched for 8 years suddenly snapping and going full evil for a whopping 20-30 minutes is sloppy. This last season should have been 2 full seasons. The romance between Jon and Dany also suffered from the rushed pacing. Which was meant to be another major element of the finale.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
umax555 05/21/19 1:25:55 AM #54:	shnangyboos posted... No, it's bad writing. It's cool of you're fine with it, but don't expect everyone to be. Great argument to rebuke mine. Wow. <cite>umax555 posted [p:922168832] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote><cite>shnangyboos posted...</cite> <quote>No, it's bad writing. It's cool of you're fine with it, but don't expect everyone to be.</quote> Great argument to rebuke mine. Wow.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CM_Ponch 05/21/19 1:26:35 AM #55:	shnangyboos posted... No, it's bad writing. It's cool of you're fine with it, but don't expect everyone to be. Tyrion literally had a 30 minute speech to Jon telling him people like you are wrong --- SW-8316-3213-4720 <cite>CM_Ponch posted [p:922168842] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote><cite>shnangyboos posted...</cite> <quote>No, it's bad writing. It's cool of you're fine with it, but don't expect everyone to be.</quote> Tyrion literally had a 30 minute speech to Jon telling him people like you are wrong</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shnangyboos 05/21/19 1:30:48 AM #56:	Nothing I say is going to convince you it's bad, just like nothing you say is going to convince me it's good. I've done enough of these to know better. --- How's my posting? Call http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/182361-human-resource-machine for any comments or concerns. <cite>shnangyboos posted [p:922168960] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote>Nothing I say is going to convince you it's bad, just like nothing you say is going to convince me it's good. I've done enough of these to know better.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
umax555 05/21/19 1:33:29 AM #57:	shnangyboos posted... Nothing I say is going to convince you it's bad, just like nothing you say is going to convince me it's good. I've done enough of these to know better. Fair enough. <cite>umax555 posted [p:922169013] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote><cite>shnangyboos posted...</cite> <quote>Nothing I say is going to convince you it's bad, just like nothing you say is going to convince me it's good. I've done enough of these to know better.</quote> Fair enough.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CM_Ponch 05/21/19 1:35:25 AM #58:	shnangyboos posted... Nothing I say is going to convince you it's bad, just like nothing you say is going to convince me it's good. I've done enough of these to know better. No, you're literally making arguments the show itself rebutted. You can dislike it, but you can't dismiss it. --- SW-8316-3213-4720 <cite>CM_Ponch posted [p:922169059] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote><cite>shnangyboos posted...</cite> <quote>Nothing I say is going to convince you it's bad, just like nothing you say is going to convince me it's good. I've done enough of these to know better.</quote> No, you're literally making arguments the show itself rebutted. You can dislike it, but you can't dismiss it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shnangyboos 05/21/19 1:38:41 AM #59:	Oh, well if the writing itself explains why the writing isn't shitty, that's all I need. --- How's my posting? Call http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/182361-human-resource-machine for any comments or concerns. <cite>shnangyboos posted [p:922169132] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote>Oh, well if the writing itself explains why the writing isn't shitty, that's all I need.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
umax555 05/21/19 1:38:55 AM #60:	CM_Ponch posted... shnangyboos posted... Nothing I say is going to convince you it's bad, just like nothing you say is going to convince me it's good. I've done enough of these to know better. No, you're literally making arguments the show itself rebutted. You can dislike it, but you can't dismiss it. But also this. Sure, I won't convince you, but that doesn't make you right. <cite>umax555 posted [p:922169138] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote><cite>CM_Ponch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shnangyboos posted...</cite> <quote>Nothing I say is going to convince you it's bad, just like nothing you say is going to convince me it's good. I've done enough of these to know better.</quote> No, you're literally making arguments the show itself rebutted. You can dislike it, but you can't dismiss it.</quote> But also this. Sure, I won't convince you, but that doesn't make you right.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CM_Ponch 05/21/19 1:40:27 AM #61:	shnangyboos posted... Oh, well if the writing itself explains why the writing isn't shitty, that's all I need. No one is going to tell you it wasn't rushed but when your argument is "Dany would never do this" and the show tells you why she would and why people cheered her on then it's no longer about the writing, it's about your failure as an audience to recognize the story presented --- SW-8316-3213-4720 <cite>CM_Ponch posted [p:922169170] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote><cite>shnangyboos posted...</cite> <quote>Oh, well if the writing itself explains why the writing isn't shitty, that's all I need.</quote> No one is going to tell you it wasn't rushed but when your argument is "Dany would never do this" and the show tells you why she would and why people cheered her on then it's no longer about the writing, it's about your failure as an audience to recognize the story presented</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shnangyboos 05/21/19 1:42:42 AM #62:	I never said I thought she wouldn't do it. Are you just arguing with everyone you've ever argued with about this? The writing to get her to that point was shitty. --- How's my posting? Call http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/182361-human-resource-machine for any comments or concerns. <cite>shnangyboos posted [p:922169221] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote>I never said I thought she wouldn't do it. Are you just arguing with everyone you've ever argued with about this? The writing to get her to that point was shitty.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CM_Ponch 05/21/19 1:45:12 AM #63:	shnangyboos posted... I never said I thought she wouldn't do it. Are you just arguing with everyone you've ever argued with about this? The writing to get her to that point was shitty. You literally are missing what the story told you. She didn't "become" anything, she always was this way. The show went out of its way to spell this out. --- SW-8316-3213-4720 <cite>CM_Ponch posted [p:922169276] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote><cite>shnangyboos posted...</cite> <quote>I never said I thought she wouldn't do it. Are you just arguing with everyone you've ever argued with about this? The writing to get her to that point was shitty.</quote> You literally are missing what the story told you. She didn't "become" anything, she always was this way. The show went out of its way to spell this out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 05/21/19 1:53:15 AM #64:	umax555 posted... Strider102 posted... For 7 seasons Dany has shown us glimpses of how cruel she can be. Problem is she never directed that anger and cruelty to innocent men, women, and children. In the span of 2-3 episodes she undergoes a huge character shift to being the type of person she swore she'd never be. If it had been paced better nobody would be saying shit. It makes more sense if you consider what had happened right before that. She lost Jorah and MIssandei, and then just prior to the battle she thought she had been betrayed by several of her most loyal followers, including the person she loved most. The impulses to assert her power were already there, and those events tipped her over the edge. It's not bad writing, you just have to look a little deeper. No, it's bad writing. That you fail to see otherwise doesn't change the fact that it took bells ringing to make her decide roasting people alive was all good and what she needed to do. She had manybetter triggers in the few episodes they decided to make her flip flop and they still chose the most idiotic one. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:922169444] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote><cite>umax555 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Strider102 posted...</cite> <quote>For 7 seasons Dany has shown us glimpses of how cruel she can be. Problem is she never directed that anger and cruelty to innocent men, women, and children. In the span of 2-3 episodes she undergoes a huge character shift to being the type of person she swore she'd never be. If it had been paced better nobody would be saying shit.</quote> It makes more sense if you consider what had happened right before that. She lost Jorah and MIssandei, and then just prior to the battle she thought she had been betrayed by several of her most loyal followers, including the person she loved most. The impulses to assert her power were already there, and those events tipped her over the edge. It's not bad writing, you just have to look a little deeper.</quote>No, it's bad writing. That you fail to see otherwise doesn't change the fact that it took bells ringing to make her decide roasting people alive was all good and what she needed to do. She had manybetter triggers in the few episodes they decided to make her flip flop and they still chose the most idiotic one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CM_Ponch 05/21/19 1:57:04 AM #65:	Funkydog posted... it took bells ringing to make her decide ... --- SW-8316-3213-4720 <cite>CM_Ponch posted [p:922169512] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote> it took bells ringing to make her decide </quote> ...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 05/21/19 1:57:25 AM #66:	I hate the show because of the writers fucking all the fans over, not for what they did. I don't give a fuck what fan fiction they came up with, so long as it was good. It wasn't, and it wasn't because they threw in the towel and gave up HBO wanted to give them endless money for 100 episodes. Ten seasons, ten episodes each. And they didn't want to do that --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:922169520] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote>I hate the show because of the writers fucking all the fans over, not for what they did. I don't give a fuck what fan fiction they came up with, so long as it was good. It wasn't, and it wasn't because they threw in the towel and gave up HBO wanted to give them endless money for 100 episodes. Ten seasons, ten episodes each. And they didn't want to do that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 05/21/19 1:57:39 AM #67:	CM_Ponch posted... shnangyboos posted... I never said I thought she wouldn't do it. Are you just arguing with everyone you've ever argued with about this? The writing to get her to that point was shitty. You literally are missing what the story told you. She didn't "become" anything, she always was this way. The show went out of its way to spell this out. No she wasn't. She started off as a meek girl passed around by her older brother. She evolved to a tribal leader who progressed into a freedom fighter which eventually lead to her being a monster. Tyrion said the opposite. People cheering her ruthless acts that were 'justified' molded her into someone who thought she could do no wrong. I don't think Tyrion explaining it is all that great a defense either. It still was seen as a hard pivot for many, many people. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:922169527] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote><cite>CM_Ponch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shnangyboos posted...</cite> <quote>I never said I thought she wouldn't do it. Are you just arguing with everyone you've ever argued with about this? The writing to get her to that point was shitty.</quote> You literally are missing what the story told you. She didn't "become" anything, she always was this way. The show went out of its way to spell this out.</quote> No she wasn't. She started off as a meek girl passed around by her older brother. She evolved to a tribal leader who progressed into a freedom fighter which eventually lead to her being a monster. Tyrion said the opposite. People cheering her ruthless acts that were 'justified' molded her into someone who thought she could do no wrong. I don't think Tyrion explaining it is all that great a defense either. It still was seen as a hard pivot for many, many people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CM_Ponch 05/21/19 2:01:18 AM #68:	Darmik posted... Tyrion said the opposite. People cheering her ruthless acts that were 'justified' molded her into someone who thought she could do no wrong. It's like you missed the entire point of the speech. Dany has always treated her enemies the same, but this was the first time you could argue her enemies were innocent. Dany was painted as a Messiah because she was always on the "right" side, but she wasn't doing things because they were the right thing to do, she was doing them because it was her way of doing things. It did not matter who her enemy was, Dany was going to burn them. --- SW-8316-3213-4720 <cite>CM_Ponch posted [p:922169604] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Tyrion said the opposite. People cheering her ruthless acts that were 'justified' molded her into someone who thought she could do no wrong. </quote> It's like you missed the entire point of the speech. Dany has always treated her enemies the same, but this was the first time you could argue her enemies were innocent. Dany was painted as a Messiah because she was always on the "right" side, but she wasn't doing things because they were the right thing to do, she was doing them because it was her way of doing things. It did not matter who her enemy was, Dany was going to burn them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 05/21/19 2:04:32 AM #69:	CM_Ponch posted... Darmik posted... Tyrion said the opposite. People cheering her ruthless acts that were 'justified' molded her into someone who thought she could do no wrong. It's like you missed the entire point of the speech. Dany has always treated her enemies the same, but this was the first time you could argue her enemies were innocent. Dany was painted as a Messiah because she was always on the "right" side, but she wasn't doing things because they were the right thing to do, she was doing them because it was her way of doing things. It did not matter who her enemy was, Dany was going to burn them. She doubted herself many times and started out meek. She gained confidence thanks to the worship around her which lead to a tragic end for her character and King's Landing. She was not just evil all along. Tyrion never said that. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:922169664] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote><cite>CM_Ponch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Tyrion said the opposite. People cheering her ruthless acts that were 'justified' molded her into someone who thought she could do no wrong. </quote> It's like you missed the entire point of the speech. Dany has always treated her enemies the same, but this was the first time you could argue her enemies were innocent. Dany was painted as a Messiah because she was always on the "right" side, but she wasn't doing things because they were the right thing to do, she was doing them because it was her way of doing things. It did not matter who her enemy was, Dany was going to burn them.</quote> She doubted herself many times and started out meek. She gained confidence thanks to the worship around her which lead to a tragic end for her character and King's Landing. She was not just evil all along. Tyrion never said that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CM_Ponch 05/21/19 2:05:45 AM #70:	Darmik posted... She was not just evil all along. Tyrion never said that. It's not about her being "evil" . It's about her flawed sense of justice. --- SW-8316-3213-4720 <cite>CM_Ponch posted [p:922169682] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>She was not just evil all along. Tyrion never said that. </quote> It's not about her being "evil" . It's about her flawed sense of justice.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GSWarriors- 05/21/19 2:06:22 AM #71:	PrideOfLion posted... umax555 posted... So, without s*ting on the previous episodes this season or changing anything about them...how would you have written the finale differently? Nah, fuck that. The problems started back in season 5 and I'd begin by fixing that travesty before fixing this one what happened in season 5 and 6 again that made people hate those seasons? <cite>GSWarriors- posted [p:922169697] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote><cite>PrideOfLion posted...</cite> <quote><cite>umax555 posted...</cite> <quote>So, without s*ting on the previous episodes this season or changing anything about them...how would you have written the finale differently? </quote> Nah, fuck that. The problems started back in season 5 and I'd begin by fixing that travesty before fixing this one</quote> what happened in season 5 and 6 again that made people hate those seasons?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FL81 05/21/19 2:08:07 AM #72:	PrideOfLion posted... umax555 posted... So, without s*ting on the previous episodes this season or changing anything about them...how would you have written the finale differently? Nah, fuck that. The problems started back in season 5 and I'd begin by fixing that travesty before fixing this one I'd even go so far as to say that S8 wasn't even really much worse than anything we've had since S5 --- https://i.imgtc.ws/uBYqPMK.gif https://i.imgtc.ws/UAGNJFv.gif https://i.imgtc.ws/cBTnWgf.png https://i.imgtc.ws/wdjM3F8.png <cite>FL81 posted [p:922169736] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote><cite>PrideOfLion posted...</cite> <quote><cite>umax555 posted...</cite> <quote>So, without s*ting on the previous episodes this season or changing anything about them...how would you have written the finale differently? </quote> Nah, fuck that. The problems started back in season 5 and I'd begin by fixing that travesty before fixing this one</quote> I'd even go so far as to say that S8 wasn't even really much worse than anything we've had since S5</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 05/21/19 2:11:04 AM #74:	CM_Ponch posted... Darmik posted... She was not just evil all along. Tyrion never said that. It's not about her being "evil" . It's about her flawed sense of justice. Which didn't spring out of nowhere. Her inflated belief in herself being absolutely morally right lead to her own downfall. That happened because people worshipped the ground she walked on and nearly everyone she had around her saw her that way. This also lead to her being unable to accept anyone not willing to follow her. She was not born that way. She was not always like that. She got corrupted by her power and followers. She went through places who told her she made their world a better place (because she did) and that lead her to believe she can do that everywhere. The flaw with the show was that this wasn't really evident until this last episode. This was explained by Tyrion and Dany herself. In 'The Bells' nobody knew what her state of mind was supposed to be. That's a big failure. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:922169775] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote><cite>CM_Ponch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>She was not just evil all along. Tyrion never said that. </quote> It's not about her being "evil" . It's about her flawed sense of justice.</quote> Which didn't spring out of nowhere. Her inflated belief in herself being absolutely morally right lead to her own downfall. That happened because people worshipped the ground she walked on and nearly everyone she had around her saw her that way. This also lead to her being unable to accept anyone not willing to follow her. She was not born that way. She was not always like that. She got corrupted by her power and followers. She went through places who told her she made their world a better place (because she did) and that lead her to believe she can do that everywhere. The flaw with the show was that this wasn't really evident until this last episode. This was explained by Tyrion and Dany herself. In 'The Bells' nobody knew what her state of mind was supposed to be. That's a big failure.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CM_Ponch 05/21/19 2:11:15 AM #75:	GSWarriors- posted... PrideOfLion posted... umax555 posted... So, without s*ting on the previous episodes this season or changing anything about them...how would you have written the finale differently? Nah, fuck that. The problems started back in season 5 and I'd begin by fixing that travesty before fixing this one what happened in season 5 and 6 again that made people hate those seasons? They ran out of source material and had to do their own version of the story. Character voices changed. It became more BIG MOMENTS rather than story telling. --- SW-8316-3213-4720 <cite>CM_Ponch posted [p:922169779] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote><cite>GSWarriors- posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PrideOfLion posted...</cite> <quote><cite>umax555 posted...</cite> <quote>So, without s*ting on the previous episodes this season or changing anything about them...how would you have written the finale differently? </quote> Nah, fuck that. The problems started back in season 5 and I'd begin by fixing that travesty before fixing this one</quote> what happened in season 5 and 6 again that made people hate those seasons?</quote> They ran out of source material and had to do their own version of the story. Character voices changed. It became more BIG MOMENTS rather than story telling.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CM_Ponch 05/21/19 2:12:39 AM #76:	Darmik posted... This was explained by Tyrion and Dany herself. In 'The Bells' nobody knew what her state of mind was supposed to be. That's a big failure. No, it's been one of the largest parts of this season's story, Varys died for it. The Tully men died because of it. Sansa revealed Jon's secret because of it. --- SW-8316-3213-4720 <cite>CM_Ponch posted [p:922169800] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>This was explained by Tyrion and Dany herself. In 'The Bells' nobody knew what her state of mind was supposed to be. That's a big failure.</quote> No, it's been one of the largest parts of this season's story, Varys died for it. The Tully men died because of it. Sansa revealed Jon's secret because of it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 05/21/19 2:14:59 AM #77:	CM_Ponch posted... Darmik posted... This was explained by Tyrion and Dany herself. In 'The Bells' nobody knew what her state of mind was supposed to be. That's a big failure. No, it's been one of the largest parts of this season's story, Varys died for it. The Tully men died because of it. Sansa revealed Jon's secret because of it. Only thing I agree with was Tully and executing a traitor isn't far off what we've seen noble people do in the show already. Sansa wouldn't have trusted Dany regardless and I think Varys was handled very poorly. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:922169840] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote><cite>CM_Ponch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>This was explained by Tyrion and Dany herself. In 'The Bells' nobody knew what her state of mind was supposed to be. That's a big failure.</quote> No, it's been one of the largest parts of this season's story, Varys died for it. The Tully men died because of it. Sansa revealed Jon's secret because of it.</quote> Only thing I agree with was Tully and executing a traitor isn't far off what we've seen noble people do in the show already. Sansa wouldn't have trusted Dany regardless and I think Varys was handled very poorly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shnangyboos 05/21/19 2:58:24 AM #78:	CM_Ponch posted... shnangyboos posted... I never said I thought she wouldn't do it. Are you just arguing with everyone you've ever argued with about this? The writing to get her to that point was shitty. You literally are missing what the story told you. She didn't "become" anything, she always was this way. The show went out of its way to spell this out. Are you're saying she didn't even go crazy? Cause that would be pretty fucking wild, and you might be the only one arguing that. --- How's my posting? Call http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/182361-human-resource-machine for any comments or concerns. <cite>shnangyboos posted [p:922170563] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote><cite>CM_Ponch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shnangyboos posted...</cite> <quote>I never said I thought she wouldn't do it. Are you just arguing with everyone you've ever argued with about this? The writing to get her to that point was shitty.</quote> You literally are missing what the story told you. She didn't "become" anything, she always was this way. The show went out of its way to spell this out.</quote> Are you're saying she didn't even go crazy? Cause that would be pretty fucking wild, and you might be the only one arguing that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CM_Ponch 05/21/19 3:19:43 AM #79:	shnangyboos posted... CM_Ponch posted... shnangyboos posted... I never said I thought she wouldn't do it. Are you just arguing with everyone you've ever argued with about this? The writing to get her to that point was shitty. You literally are missing what the story told you. She didn't "become" anything, she always was this way. The show went out of its way to spell this out. Are you're saying she didn't even go crazy? Cause that would be pretty fucking wild, and you might be the only one arguing that. No. --- SW-8316-3213-4720 <cite>CM_Ponch posted [p:922170920] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote><cite>shnangyboos posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CM_Ponch posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shnangyboos posted...</cite> <quote>I never said I thought she wouldn't do it. Are you just arguing with everyone you've ever argued with about this? The writing to get her to that point was shitty.</quote> You literally are missing what the story told you. She didn't "become" anything, she always was this way. The show went out of its way to spell this out.</quote> Are you're saying she didn't even go crazy? Cause that would be pretty fucking wild, and you might be the only one arguing that.</quote> No.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 05/21/19 3:32:40 AM #80:	What if it turned out that The Night King's goal was to kill the Three-Eyed Raven to stop him from taking over the world as his powers are too dangerous for one man to have. I mean he did let Jon tell Sansa and Arya his secret knowing that it would lead to the slaughter of King's Landing and Bran being crowned king. How convenient for him. What a dangerous precedent he sets. Which of course leads to the final scene of Bran looking at the camera and saying 'Game Over' --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:922171136] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote>What if it turned out that The Night King's goal was to kill the Three-Eyed Raven to stop him from taking over the world as his powers are too dangerous for one man to have. I mean he did let Jon tell Sansa and Arya his secret knowing that it would lead to the slaughter of King's Landing and Bran being crowned king. How convenient for him. What a dangerous precedent he sets. Which of course leads to the final scene of Bran looking at the camera and saying 'Game Over'</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vita_Aeterna 05/21/19 3:49:05 AM #81:	A dark ending with Daenerys ruling and Jon Snow co-ruling. I just hate what they did to Jon, and Daenerys. It's way too tragic, and depressing, and feels like their ending isn't satisfying. Jon did all that fucking work just to end back where he started. Daenerys did all the conquering and died by being stabbed by her lover. And I absolutely hate Bran. Fuck Bran. --- "Death is so terribly final, while life is full of possibilities." <cite>Vita_Aeterna posted [p:922171393] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote>A dark ending with Daenerys ruling and Jon Snow co-ruling. I just hate what they did to Jon, and Daenerys. It's way too tragic, and depressing, and feels like their ending isn't satisfying. Jon did all that fucking work just to end back where he started. Daenerys did all the conquering and died by being stabbed by her lover. And I absolutely hate Bran. Fuck Bran.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Knowledge_King 05/21/19 9:19:01 AM #83:	Keep people in character for one. That's how you get objectively decent (at worst) writing. They didn't, thus it sucked. Examples: If Jon kills Dany, give him an actual reason. Like her threatening Sansa and Winterfell. Or her trying to execute Arya (who tried to kill her). And then if that happens, Drogon either kills him or Grey Worm does (Tyrion clearly dies as well). And due to their Khal dying, the Dothraki raid Westeros in vengeance. And the Unsullied back them up because they serve the same queen. Things like that. Or just...have Arya actually use her assassin abilities to kill Dany. Also no Bran as king. Either Sansa as Queen, proving she 'played the game', Jon because he's the rightful heir and might be able to control the dragon, or keep Dany. Alternative is to have Dany mimic her father, talking about burning all her enemies (or maybe doing so at Winterfell) and Jon does a Jamie and everything is full circle. And the worst one would be for Jon to rule by Dany's side, but it still works. If Bran's going to be king, we need a montage of him manipulating events for the pieces to fall in place, so at least it's an evil mastermind ending. Basically anything but the apathetic garbage we got that didn't make sense. --- http://www.warwithwords.com Run: 5 star review, IndieReader approved: https://www.amazon.com/Run-M-N/dp/1973143763/ <cite>Knowledge_King posted [p:922176928] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote>Keep people in character for one. That's how you get objectively decent (at worst) writing. They didn't, thus it sucked. Examples: If Jon kills Dany, give him an actual reason. Like her threatening Sansa and Winterfell. Or her trying to execute Arya (who tried to kill her). And then if that happens, Drogon either kills him or Grey Worm does (Tyrion clearly dies as well). And due to their Khal dying, the Dothraki raid Westeros in vengeance. And the Unsullied back them up because they serve the same queen. Things like that. Or just...have Arya actually use her assassin abilities to kill Dany. Also no Bran as king. Either Sansa as Queen, proving she 'played the game', Jon because he's the rightful heir and might be able to control the dragon, or keep Dany. Alternative is to have Dany mimic her father, talking about burning all her enemies (or maybe doing so at Winterfell) and Jon does a Jamie and everything is full circle. And the worst one would be for Jon to rule by Dany's side, but it still works. If Bran's going to be king, we need a montage of him manipulating events for the pieces to fall in place, so at least it's an evil mastermind ending. Basically anything but the apathetic garbage we got that didn't make sense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
umax555 05/21/19 2:52:38 PM #84:	Knowledge_King posted... Keep people in character for one. That's how you get objectively decent (at worst) writing. They didn't, thus it sucked. Examples: If Jon kills Dany, give him an actual reason. Like her threatening Sansa and Winterfell. Or her trying to execute Arya (who tried to kill her). And then if that happens, Drogon either kills him or Grey Worm does (Tyrion clearly dies as well). And due to their Khal dying, the Dothraki raid Westeros in vengeance. And the Unsullied back them up because they serve the same queen. Things like that. Or just...have Arya actually use her assassin abilities to kill Dany. Also no Bran as king. Either Sansa as Queen, proving she 'played the game', Jon because he's the rightful heir and might be able to control the dragon, or keep Dany. Alternative is to have Dany mimic her father, talking about burning all her enemies (or maybe doing so at Winterfell) and Jon does a Jamie and everything is full circle. And the worst one would be for Jon to rule by Dany's side, but it still works. If Bran's going to be king, we need a montage of him manipulating events for the pieces to fall in place, so at least it's an evil mastermind ending. Basically anything but the apathetic garbage we got that didn't make sense. Your suggestions are even worse. They did give Jon a reason. That was the point of the whole conversation with Tyrion. Even though she hadn't threatened Sansa and Arya yet, it was obvious that they would be in danger and Jon realized this. Yeah, maybe they could have somebody kill him out of vengeance. Whether they did or not would have been fine IMO. Arya killing Dany would have been really dumb. She already killed the Night King, so her killing Dany as well would have been a bit much. Not to mention she had almost no interaction with Dany throughout the entire show. While Bran as king might be kind of underwhelming for a lot of people, it made the most sense given the circumstances. Too many people hated John, and Sansa preferred to rule the north. I liked it because it wasn't predictable yet still made sense. Ultimately everyone just has different preferences of how they wanted it to end. People wanted it to end their way and that's why they were disappointed; they ended up going a route that no one really envisioned. <cite>umax555 posted [p:922188690] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote><cite>Knowledge_King posted...</cite> <quote>Keep people in character for one. That's how you get objectively decent (at worst) writing. They didn't, thus it sucked. Examples: If Jon kills Dany, give him an actual reason. Like her threatening Sansa and Winterfell. Or her trying to execute Arya (who tried to kill her). And then if that happens, Drogon either kills him or Grey Worm does (Tyrion clearly dies as well). And due to their Khal dying, the Dothraki raid Westeros in vengeance. And the Unsullied back them up because they serve the same queen. Things like that. Or just...have Arya actually use her assassin abilities to kill Dany. Also no Bran as king. Either Sansa as Queen, proving she 'played the game', Jon because he's the rightful heir and might be able to control the dragon, or keep Dany. Alternative is to have Dany mimic her father, talking about burning all her enemies (or maybe doing so at Winterfell) and Jon does a Jamie and everything is full circle. And the worst one would be for Jon to rule by Dany's side, but it still works. If Bran's going to be king, we need a montage of him manipulating events for the pieces to fall in place, so at least it's an evil mastermind ending. Basically anything but the apathetic garbage we got that didn't make sense.</quote> Your suggestions are even worse. They did give Jon a reason. That was the point of the whole conversation with Tyrion. Even though she hadn't threatened Sansa and Arya yet, it was obvious that they would be in danger and Jon realized this. Yeah, maybe they could have somebody kill him out of vengeance. Whether they did or not would have been fine IMO. Arya killing Dany would have been really dumb. She already killed the Night King, so her killing Dany as well would have been a bit much. Not to mention she had almost no interaction with Dany throughout the entire show. While Bran as king might be kind of underwhelming for a lot of people, it made the most sense given the circumstances. Too many people hated John, and Sansa preferred to rule the north. I liked it because it wasn't predictable yet still made sense. Ultimately everyone just has different preferences of how they wanted it to end. People wanted it to end their way and that's why they were disappointed; they ended up going a route that no one really envisioned.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 05/21/19 2:58:46 PM #85:	umax555 posted... While Bran as king might be kind of underwhelming for a lot of people, it made the most sense given the circumstances. The guy who said he wasn't fit to even be a lord due to being the TER is somehow more fit to be a king --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:922188955] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote><cite>umax555 posted...</cite> <quote>While Bran as king might be kind of underwhelming for a lot of people, it made the most sense given the circumstances.</quote> The guy who said he wasn't fit to even be a lord due to being the TER is somehow more fit to be a king</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Knowledge_King 05/21/19 3:42:10 PM #86:	umax555 posted... They did give Jon a reason. That was the point of the whole conversation with Tyrion. Even though she hadn't threatened Sansa and Arya yet, it was obvious that they would be in danger and Jon realized this. Yeah, maybe they could have somebody kill him out of vengeance. Whether they did or not would have been fine IMO. Arya killing Dany would have been really dumb. She already killed the Night King, so her killing Dany as well would have been a bit much. Not to mention she had almost no interaction with Dany throughout the entire show. While Bran as king might be kind of underwhelming for a lot of people, it made the most sense given the circumstances. Too many people hated John, and Sansa preferred to rule the north. I liked it because it wasn't predictable yet still made sense. Jon had no reason. If someone tells you 'hey the person you love might kill someone else you love', that's not reason to kill them. It's speculation. To kill someone off of speculation is the opposite of what Jon Snow does. He only works off of action and it has to be extreme. Arya killing Dany makes sense. Who cares about 'points' and who she already killed. It makes sense with the plot and the characters. She saw the destruction, she never trusted Dany, and she thinks Dany wants to kill Jon, who she loved. Bran's a terrible king. He's terrible as a symbol (important for a king) and is too detached to rule efficiently. He's also never been shown to make good decisions. Almost anyone else is a better choice. A cripple who's literally just from the north but claims to be an all-seeing prophet is like...bottom five choices to be king. --- http://www.warwithwords.com Run: 5 star review, IndieReader approved: https://www.amazon.com/Run-M-N/dp/1973143763/ <cite>Knowledge_King posted [p:922190687] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote><cite>umax555 posted...</cite> <quote> They did give Jon a reason. That was the point of the whole conversation with Tyrion. Even though she hadn't threatened Sansa and Arya yet, it was obvious that they would be in danger and Jon realized this. Yeah, maybe they could have somebody kill him out of vengeance. Whether they did or not would have been fine IMO. Arya killing Dany would have been really dumb. She already killed the Night King, so her killing Dany as well would have been a bit much. Not to mention she had almost no interaction with Dany throughout the entire show. While Bran as king might be kind of underwhelming for a lot of people, it made the most sense given the circumstances. Too many people hated John, and Sansa preferred to rule the north. I liked it because it wasn't predictable yet still made sense. </quote> Jon had no reason. If someone tells you 'hey the person you love might kill someone else you love', that's not reason to kill them. It's speculation. To kill someone off of speculation is the opposite of what Jon Snow does. He only works off of action and it has to be extreme. Arya killing Dany makes sense. Who cares about 'points' and who she already killed. It makes sense with the plot and the characters. She saw the destruction, she never trusted Dany, and she thinks Dany wants to kill Jon, who she loved. Bran's a terrible king. He's terrible as a symbol (important for a king) and is too detached to rule efficiently. He's also never been shown to make good decisions. Almost anyone else is a better choice. A cripple who's literally just from the north but claims to be an all-seeing prophet is like...bottom five choices to be king.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kayoticdreamz 05/21/19 3:55:41 PM #88:	I swear people whining about Season 8 must have some extreme form of ADHD where they can't follow plots for more than 5 minutes. It might have been rushed, but Dany turning into the mad queen has been foreshadowed for a long time now. Heck even in Season 1 she showed signs of being a psychopath. When she bought the unsullied she proved to be a bit of an underhanded dick as well. She had been flirting with wanting to burn the capitol for a while, and seemed quite reluctant to agree to stop the siege if the bells rang so when the bells actually rang and she didn't stop the siege, it makes sense. And even in that episode, when Jon refuses to fuck her, she says "Let it be fear then". I don't know why anyone acts like it was some shock that the bells set her off. If you followed the plot of the same episode it happened in, it wasn't a shock or a surprise. The only way anyone can say Dany turning into the mad queen was not set up, was not foreshadowed, or came out of the clear blue is if you are incapable of following plot for more than 5 minutes at a time. At which point I recommend watching the WWE because they don't follow plot for more than 5 minutes either. <cite>kayoticdreamz posted [p:922191314] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote>I swear people whining about Season 8 must have some extreme form of ADHD where they can't follow plots for more than 5 minutes. It might have been rushed, but Dany turning into the mad queen has been foreshadowed for a long time now. Heck even in Season 1 she showed signs of being a psychopath. When she bought the unsullied she proved to be a bit of an underhanded dick as well. She had been flirting with wanting to burn the capitol for a while, and seemed quite reluctant to agree to stop the siege if the bells rang so when the bells actually rang and she didn't stop the siege, it makes sense. And even in that episode, when Jon refuses to fuck her, she says "Let it be fear then". I don't know why anyone acts like it was some shock that the bells set her off. If you followed the plot of the same episode it happened in, it wasn't a shock or a surprise. The only way anyone can say Dany turning into the mad queen was not set up, was not foreshadowed, or came out of the clear blue is if you are incapable of following plot for more than 5 minutes at a time. At which point I recommend watching the WWE because they don't follow plot for more than 5 minutes either.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Patchwork 05/21/19 4:17:49 PM #90:	I didnt hate it, but Id have had Jon kill Dany (hes the tragic hero), then kill Grey Worm in single combat, and then he gives the crown up to willingly go to the north to be with the wildlings where he belongs. Sansa as queen wouldve been cool. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n. <cite>Patchwork posted [p:922192250] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote>I didnt hate it, but Id have had Jon kill Dany (hes the tragic hero), then kill Grey Worm in single combat, and then he gives the crown up to willingly go to the north to be with the wildlings where he belongs. Sansa as queen wouldve been cool.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vocedelmorte 05/21/19 4:22:30 PM #91:	Hairistotle posted... I would have had The Hound emerge from the smouldering pit of King's Landing and just start cutting down the dothraki and unsullied. Ideally he would 1v1 Drogon and win It would be nice to see more action in the final episode. I would want to see Jon gets killed by Drogon and Drogon gets killed by Arya tbh The only scene i liked in this episode is really just Daenerys speech, wings and everything was pretty epic <cite>vocedelmorte posted [p:922192469] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hairistotle posted...</cite> <quote>I would have had The Hound emerge from the smouldering pit of King's Landing and just start cutting down the dothraki and unsullied. Ideally he would 1v1 Drogon and win</quote> It would be nice to see more action in the final episode. I would want to see Jon gets killed by Drogon and Drogon gets killed by Arya tbh The only scene i liked in this episode is really just Daenerys speech, wings and everything was pretty epic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Strider102 05/21/19 4:25:42 PM #92:	vocedelmorte posted... Hairistotle posted... I would have had The Hound emerge from the smouldering pit of King's Landing and just start cutting down the dothraki and unsullied. Ideally he would 1v1 Drogon and win It would be nice to see more action in the final episode. I would want to see Jon gets killed by Drogon and Drogon gets killed by Arya tbh The only scene i liked in this episode is really just Daenerys speech, wings and everything was pretty epic Yes let's have Arya kill a dragon. Might as well tbh. --- Strider is something of a god of equine necro-brutality--Master ZED <cite>Strider102 posted [p:922192611] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote><cite>vocedelmorte posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hairistotle posted...</cite> <quote>I would have had The Hound emerge from the smouldering pit of King's Landing and just start cutting down the dothraki and unsullied. Ideally he would 1v1 Drogon and win</quote> It would be nice to see more action in the final episode. I would want to see Jon gets killed by Drogon and Drogon gets killed by Arya tbh The only scene i liked in this episode is really just Daenerys speech, wings and everything was pretty epic</quote> Yes let's have Arya kill a dragon. Might as well tbh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AngelsNAirwav3s 05/21/19 4:26:59 PM #93:	I would have used the full 10 seasons that HBO wanted in order to tell the story. Not cram everything into 7.5 --- Hello world! <cite>AngelsNAirwav3s posted [p:922192680] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote>I would have used the full 10 seasons that HBO wanted in order to tell the story. Not cram everything into 7.5</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vocedelmorte 05/21/19 4:27:18 PM #94:	Why not, she did kill NK. I mean, i thought they building her up to kill Daenerys or Drogon in previous episode. Like, they giving her a motivation. I don't mean her killing dragon in a hand to hand combat, but using some kind of trick. <cite>vocedelmorte posted [p:922192700] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote>Why not, she did kill NK. I mean, i thought they building her up to kill Daenerys or Drogon in previous episode. Like, they giving her a motivation. I don't mean her killing dragon in a hand to hand combat, but using some kind of trick.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CM_Ponch 05/21/19 5:06:16 PM #96:	Hairistotle posted... I would have had The Hound emerge from the smouldering pit of King's Landing and just start cutting down the dothraki and unsullied. Ideally he would 1v1 Drogon and win I honestly would have been down for this. I would pay good money to watch the hound suplex Drogon --- SW-8316-3213-4720 <cite>CM_Ponch posted [p:922194238] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hairistotle posted...</cite> <quote>I would have had The Hound emerge from the smouldering pit of King's Landing and just start cutting down the dothraki and unsullied. Ideally he would 1v1 Drogon and win</quote> I honestly would have been down for this. I would pay good money to watch the hound suplex Drogon</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hinakuluiau 05/21/19 7:03:51 PM #97:	kayoticdreamz posted... I swear people whining about Season 8 must have some extreme form of ADHD where they can't follow plots for more than 5 minutes. It might have been rushed, but Dany turning into the mad queen has been foreshadowed for a long time now. Heck even in Season 1 she showed signs of being a psychopath. When she bought the unsullied she proved to be a bit of an underhanded dick as well. She had been flirting with wanting to burn the capitol for a while, and seemed quite reluctant to agree to stop the siege if the bells rang so when the bells actually rang and she didn't stop the siege, it makes sense. And even in that episode, when Jon refuses to fuck her, she says "Let it be fear then". I don't know why anyone acts like it was some shock that the bells set her off. If you followed the plot of the same episode it happened in, it wasn't a shock or a surprise. The only way anyone can say Dany turning into the mad queen was not set up, was not foreshadowed, or came out of the clear blue is if you are incapable of following plot for more than 5 minutes at a time. At which point I recommend watching the WWE because they don't follow plot for more than 5 minutes either. The issue is not with the detractors attention spans or even with various plot points, it's the writing. Everyone figured Dany would go full Mad Queen at some point, especially after her time in Mereen. Not our fault you settle for slime covered shit. --- There are some things where I just bypass critical thinking. - ROD <cite>Hinakuluiau posted [p:922198842] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote><cite>kayoticdreamz posted...</cite> <quote>I swear people whining about Season 8 must have some extreme form of ADHD where they can't follow plots for more than 5 minutes. It might have been rushed, but Dany turning into the mad queen has been foreshadowed for a long time now. Heck even in Season 1 she showed signs of being a psychopath. When she bought the unsullied she proved to be a bit of an underhanded dick as well. She had been flirting with wanting to burn the capitol for a while, and seemed quite reluctant to agree to stop the siege if the bells rang so when the bells actually rang and she didn't stop the siege, it makes sense. And even in that episode, when Jon refuses to fuck her, she says "Let it be fear then". I don't know why anyone acts like it was some shock that the bells set her off. If you followed the plot of the same episode it happened in, it wasn't a shock or a surprise. The only way anyone can say Dany turning into the mad queen was not set up, was not foreshadowed, or came out of the clear blue is if you are incapable of following plot for more than 5 minutes at a time. At which point I recommend watching the WWE because they don't follow plot for more than 5 minutes either.</quote> The issue is not with the detractors attention spans or even with various plot points, it's the writing. Everyone figured Dany would go full Mad Queen at some point, especially after her time in Mereen. Not our fault you settle for slime covered shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
apocalyptic_4 05/21/19 7:06:57 PM #98:	Thinking about it for awhile now what really bothered me was bran becoming king, that moment completely took me out of the show. That and the way Danny died with no last words to jon. All terribly done and I actually didn't mind the 2nd last episode. --- XBL: Mrpicardbottoms <cite>apocalyptic_4 posted [p:922198957] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote>Thinking about it for awhile now what really bothered me was bran becoming king, that moment completely took me out of the show. That and the way Danny died with no last words to jon. All terribly done and I actually didn't mind the 2nd last episode.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 05/21/19 7:58:53 PM #99:	apocalyptic_4 posted... Thinking about it for awhile now what really bothered me was bran becoming king, that moment completely took me out of the show. That and the way Danny died with no last words to jon. All terribly done and I actually didn't mind the 2nd last episode. I dunno, who else out of the ones there would they have chosen? they basically just laughed at Edmure, and they aren't gonna make Sansa queen. and definitely not any of the other random dudes. --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:922200955] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote><cite>apocalyptic_4 posted...</cite> <quote>Thinking about it for awhile now what really bothered me was bran becoming king, that moment completely took me out of the show. That and the way Danny died with no last words to jon. All terribly done and I actually didn't mind the 2nd last episode.</quote> I dunno, who else out of the ones there would they have chosen? they basically just laughed at Edmure, and they aren't gonna make Sansa queen. and definitely not any of the other random dudes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EnragedSlith 05/21/19 8:01:29 PM #100:	So Ive really not liked this show since season 5. But I thought the finale was fitting for the season and the direction they took. It was rushed getting there, definitely messy and wrong in some points, but that episode in particular was an appropriate capstone. I liked it. --- ultimate milf hunter https://imgur.com/lCEdce6 https://imgur.com/2N1Ezia https://imgur.com/ukJ6sPJ https://youtu.be/IDYaHvDiTr4 <cite>EnragedSlith posted [p:922201044] in People who... [t:77729201]...</cite> <quote>So Ive really not liked this show since season 5. But I thought the finale was fitting for the season and the direction they took. It was rushed getting there, definitely messy and wrong in some points, but that episode in particular was an appropriate capstone. I liked it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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