Current Events > I never understood the "pro life" argument.

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Orlando_Jordan 05/20/19 2:19:36 PM #1:	The planet is overpopulated, fuel is running out, there isn't enough housing, but people want financially struggling couples to have kids they're not ready for? And for abortion to be outlawed so the population grows even faster? --- "All I'm offering is the truth, nothing more."-Morpheus <cite>Orlando_Jordan posted [p:922142881] in I never un... [t:77728361]...</cite> <quote>The planet is overpopulated, fuel is running out, there isn't enough housing, but people want financially struggling couples to have kids they're not ready for? And for abortion to be outlawed so the population grows even faster?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlisLandale 05/20/19 2:20:42 PM #2:	Orlando_Jordan posted... The planet is overpopulated, fuel is running out, there isn't enough housing, but people want financially struggling couples to have kids they're not ready for? And for abortion to be outlawed so the population grows even faster? I mean the belief is that abortion is literally murder. If you want to justify murder to curb overpopulation, well... >_> --- https://i.imgtc.com/8ePXf9B.gif If Yamcha would have brought his bat along he'd have blasted Jiren out of the ring like Ness in smash brothers. - Gids_goft <cite>AlisLandale posted [p:922142925] in I never un... [t:77728361]...</cite> <quote><cite>Orlando_Jordan posted...</cite> <quote>The planet is overpopulated, fuel is running out, there isn't enough housing, but people want financially struggling couples to have kids they're not ready for? And for abortion to be outlawed so the population grows even faster?</quote> I mean the belief is that abortion is literally murder. If you want to justify murder to curb overpopulation, well... >_></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EndOfDiscOne 05/20/19 2:20:49 PM #3:	What is this "planet is overpopulated" meme I've been seeing lately? --- I am the Cheese! I am the best character on the show! I am better than both the salami and the bologna *COMBINED!* <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted [p:922142932] in I never un... [t:77728361]...</cite> <quote>What is this "planet is overpopulated" meme I've been seeing lately?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
quinfordmac 05/20/19 2:20:57 PM #4:	AlisLandale posted... Orlando_Jordan posted... The planet is overpopulated, fuel is running out, there isn't enough housing, but people want financially struggling couples to have kids they're not ready for? And for abortion to be outlawed so the population grows even faster? I mean the belief is that abortion is literally murder. If you want to justify murder to curb overpopulation, well... >_> Thanos was right --- Bang! <cite>quinfordmac posted [p:922142942] in I never un... [t:77728361]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlisLandale posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Orlando_Jordan posted...</cite> <quote>The planet is overpopulated, fuel is running out, there isn't enough housing, but people want financially struggling couples to have kids they're not ready for? And for abortion to be outlawed so the population grows even faster?</quote> I mean the belief is that abortion is literally murder. If you want to justify murder to curb overpopulation, well... >_></quote> Thanos was right</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Orlando_Jordan 05/20/19 2:22:49 PM #5:	AlisLandale posted... Orlando_Jordan posted... The planet is overpopulated, fuel is running out, there isn't enough housing, but people want financially struggling couples to have kids they're not ready for? And for abortion to be outlawed so the population grows even faster? I mean the belief is that abortion is literally murder. If you want to justify murder to curb overpopulation, well... >_> It's not murder, though. It's an intentional miscarriage to prevent hardship for the parents and child. People should only have children when they're able to take care of them. --- "All I'm offering is the truth, nothing more."-Morpheus <cite>Orlando_Jordan posted [p:922143026] in I never un... [t:77728361]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlisLandale posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Orlando_Jordan posted...</cite> <quote>The planet is overpopulated, fuel is running out, there isn't enough housing, but people want financially struggling couples to have kids they're not ready for? And for abortion to be outlawed so the population grows even faster?</quote> I mean the belief is that abortion is literally murder. If you want to justify murder to curb overpopulation, well... >_></quote> It's not murder, though. It's an intentional miscarriage to prevent hardship for the parents and child. People should only have children when they're able to take care of them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 05/20/19 2:24:07 PM #6:	EndOfDiscOne posted... What is this "planet is overpopulated" meme I've been seeing lately? The truth. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:922143076] in I never un... [t:77728361]...</cite> <quote><cite>EndOfDiscOne posted...</cite> <quote>What is this "planet is overpopulated" meme I've been seeing lately?</quote> The truth.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 05/20/19 2:24:11 PM #7:	AlisLandale posted... Orlando_Jordan posted... The planet is overpopulated, fuel is running out, there isn't enough housing, but people want financially struggling couples to have kids they're not ready for? And for abortion to be outlawed so the population grows even faster? I mean the belief is that abortion is literally murder. If you want to justify murder to curb overpopulation, well... >_> --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:922143082] in I never un... [t:77728361]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlisLandale posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Orlando_Jordan posted...</cite> <quote>The planet is overpopulated, fuel is running out, there isn't enough housing, but people want financially struggling couples to have kids they're not ready for? And for abortion to be outlawed so the population grows even faster?</quote> I mean the belief is that abortion is literally murder. If you want to justify murder to curb overpopulation, well... >_></quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem boy 05/20/19 2:24:11 PM #8:	Orlando_Jordan posted... AlisLandale posted... Orlando_Jordan posted... The planet is overpopulated, fuel is running out, there isn't enough housing, but people want financially struggling couples to have kids they're not ready for? And for abortion to be outlawed so the population grows even faster? I mean the belief is that abortion is literally murder. If you want to justify murder to curb overpopulation, well... >_> It's not murder, though. It's an intentional miscarriage to prevent hardship for the parents and child. People should only have children when they're able to take care of them. Never heard that term before. But anyway, if they see the fetus has a human life, intentionally ending the life seems inexcusable to them --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>emblem boy posted [p:922143083] in I never un... [t:77728361]...</cite> <quote><cite>Orlando_Jordan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AlisLandale posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Orlando_Jordan posted...</cite> <quote> The planet is overpopulated, fuel is running out, there isn't enough housing, but people want financially struggling couples to have kids they're not ready for? And for abortion to be outlawed so the population grows even faster? </quote> I mean the belief is that abortion is literally murder. If you want to justify murder to curb overpopulation, well... >_></quote> It's not murder, though. It's an intentional miscarriage to prevent hardship for the parents and child. People should only have children when they're able to take care of them.</quote> Never heard that term before. But anyway, if they see the fetus has a human life, intentionally ending the life seems inexcusable to them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlisLandale 05/20/19 2:24:16 PM #9:	Orlando_Jordan posted... AlisLandale posted... Orlando_Jordan posted... The planet is overpopulated, fuel is running out, there isn't enough housing, but people want financially struggling couples to have kids they're not ready for? And for abortion to be outlawed so the population grows even faster? I mean the belief is that abortion is literally murder. If you want to justify murder to curb overpopulation, well... >_> It's not murder, though. It's an intentional miscarriage to prevent hardship for the parents and child. People should only have children when they're able to take care of them. Youre saying you dont understand it. Its vert simple to understand. Pro-lifers disagree with your belief that abortion is not murder. They believe the baby (at various developmental stages) is a human life and willingly killing it is morally equivalent to killing a full grown person out of the womb You can disagree, but thats what it is. --- https://i.imgtc.com/8ePXf9B.gif If Yamcha would have brought his bat along he'd have blasted Jiren out of the ring like Ness in smash brothers. - Gids_goft <cite>AlisLandale posted [p:922143087] in I never un... [t:77728361]...</cite> <quote><cite>Orlando_Jordan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AlisLandale posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Orlando_Jordan posted...</cite> <quote>The planet is overpopulated, fuel is running out, there isn't enough housing, but people want financially struggling couples to have kids they're not ready for? And for abortion to be outlawed so the population grows even faster?</quote> I mean the belief is that abortion is literally murder. If you want to justify murder to curb overpopulation, well... >_></quote> It's not murder, though. It's an intentional miscarriage to prevent hardship for the parents and child. People should only have children when they're able to take care of them.</quote> Youre saying you dont understand it. Its vert simple to understand. Pro-lifers disagree with your belief that abortion is not murder. They believe the baby (at various developmental stages) is a human life and willingly killing it is morally equivalent to killing a full grown person out of the womb You can disagree, but thats what it is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spanky1 05/20/19 2:55:55 PM #10:	I'm pro choice myself. And yet I am constantly disappointed by the defense and arguments of pro choicers. They go on and on about things that don't matter to pro lifers and then wonder why they haven't changed their mind. The bottom line is pro lifers believe getting an abortion is the same as murdering a baby. That's it. That's the only point that pro choicers ever really need to contend with. And yet I hardly ever see pro choicers actually addressing that point. Like, yeah, lifers want a woman who got an abortion to have a greater sentence than the rapist. That's because they believe its baby murder. Murdering a baby should have a greater sentence than raping someone. But choicers hardly ever seem to tackle that basic issue. They need to just stick to constantly offering arguments as to why terminating a fetus is not the same as plunging a knife into the heart of a newborn baby. Because to a pro lifer, there is no difference. --- https://imgur.com/DCjoiZ0 <cite>spanky1 posted [p:922144471] in I never un... [t:77728361]...</cite> <quote>I'm pro choice myself. And yet I am constantly disappointed by the defense and arguments of pro choicers. They go on and on about things that don't matter to pro lifers and then wonder why they haven't changed their mind. The bottom line is pro lifers believe getting an abortion is the same as murdering a baby. That's it. That's the only point that pro choicers ever really need to contend with. And yet I hardly ever see pro choicers actually addressing that point. Like, yeah, lifers want a woman who got an abortion to have a greater sentence than the rapist. That's because they believe its baby murder. Murdering a baby should have a greater sentence than raping someone. But choicers hardly ever seem to tackle that basic issue. They need to just stick to constantly offering arguments as to why terminating a fetus is not the same as plunging a knife into the heart of a newborn baby. Because to a pro lifer, there is no difference.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 05/20/19 3:02:00 PM #11:	spanky1 posted... They need to just stick to constantly offering arguments as to why terminating a fetus is not the same as plunging a knife into the heart of a newborn baby. Yeah, Pro-Lifers are like flat earthers. Either they're not smart enough to change their minds or they profit off of the wrong. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:922144721] in I never un... [t:77728361]...</cite> <quote><cite>spanky1 posted...</cite> <quote>They need to just stick to constantly offering arguments as to why terminating a fetus is not the same as plunging a knife into the heart of a newborn baby.</quote> Yeah, Pro-Lifers are like flat earthers. Either they're not smart enough to change their minds or they profit off of the wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem boy 05/20/19 3:16:58 PM #12:	spanky1 posted... I'm pro choice myself. And yet I am constantly disappointed by the defense and arguments of pro choicers. They go on and on about things that don't matter to pro lifers and then wonder why they haven't changed their mind. The bottom line is pro lifers believe getting an abortion is the same as murdering a baby. That's it. That's the only point that pro choicers ever really need to contend with. And yet I hardly ever see pro choicers actually addressing that point. Like, yeah, lifers want a woman who got an abortion to have a greater sentence than the rapist. That's because they believe its baby murder. Murdering a baby should have a greater sentence than raping someone. But choicers hardly ever seem to tackle that basic issue. They need to just stick to constantly offering arguments as to why terminating a fetus is not the same as plunging a knife into the heart of a newborn baby. Because to a pro lifer, there is no difference. Yep, pretty much agree. I get annoyed that I keep seeing these posts about how the legislators is all men, or whatever else. Like, why even focus on shit like that. Do they think there are no women pro lifers? Do they think a ban on abortion would be better if a legislature group of all women voted on it? Like, just stick to why you think abortion should be allowed instead of unrelated issues regarding abortion. Some have an inability to realize that pro lifers aren't mustache twirling villains that just want to control people. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>emblem boy posted [p:922145358] in I never un... [t:77728361]...</cite> <quote><cite>spanky1 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm pro choice myself. And yet I am constantly disappointed by the defense and arguments of pro choicers. They go on and on about things that don't matter to pro lifers and then wonder why they haven't changed their mind. The bottom line is pro lifers believe getting an abortion is the same as murdering a baby. That's it. That's the only point that pro choicers ever really need to contend with. And yet I hardly ever see pro choicers actually addressing that point. Like, yeah, lifers want a woman who got an abortion to have a greater sentence than the rapist. That's because they believe its baby murder. Murdering a baby should have a greater sentence than raping someone. But choicers hardly ever seem to tackle that basic issue. They need to just stick to constantly offering arguments as to why terminating a fetus is not the same as plunging a knife into the heart of a newborn baby. Because to a pro lifer, there is no difference.</quote> Yep, pretty much agree. I get annoyed that I keep seeing these posts about how the legislators is all men, or whatever else. Like, why even focus on shit like that. Do they think there are no women pro lifers? Do they think a ban on abortion would be better if a legislature group of all women voted on it? Like, just stick to why you think abortion should be allowed instead of unrelated issues regarding abortion. Some have an inability to realize that pro lifers aren't mustache twirling villains that just want to control people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 05/20/19 3:19:18 PM #13:	emblem boy posted... Some have an inability to realize that pro lifers aren't mustache twirling villains that just want to control people. Webmaster4531 posted... Yeah, Pro-Lifers are like flat earthers. Either they're not smart enough to change their minds or they profit off of the wrong. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:922145461] in I never un... [t:77728361]...</cite> <quote><cite>emblem boy posted...</cite> <quote>Some have an inability to realize that pro lifers aren't mustache twirling villains that just want to control people.</quote> <cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, Pro-Lifers are like flat earthers. Either they're not smart enough to change their minds or they profit off of the wrong.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 05/20/19 3:19:38 PM #14:	emblem boy posted... Some have an inability to realize that pro lifers aren't mustache twirling villains that just want to control people. It's because a lot of these legislators are on the mustache twirling level. It's easier to notice them than it is the sensible people who just think abortion is morally wrong. --- This is a mobile account, forgive any errors. ~DYL~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTEX3YdEi7s <cite>Umbreon posted [p:922145481] in I never un... [t:77728361]...</cite> <quote><cite>emblem boy posted...</cite> <quote>Some have an inability to realize that pro lifers aren't mustache twirling villains that just want to control people.</quote> It's because a lot of these legislators are on the mustache twirling level. It's easier to notice them than it is the sensible people who just think abortion is morally wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem boy 05/20/19 3:20:58 PM #15:	Umbreon posted... emblem boy posted... Some have an inability to realize that pro lifers aren't mustache twirling villains that just want to control people. It's because a lot of these legislators are on the mustache twirling level. It's easier to notice them than it is the sensible people who just think abortion is morally wrong. Why do you say that --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>emblem boy posted [p:922145544] in I never un... [t:77728361]...</cite> <quote><cite>Umbreon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>emblem boy posted...</cite> <quote> Some have an inability to realize that pro lifers aren't mustache twirling villains that just want to control people.</quote> It's because a lot of these legislators are on the mustache twirling level. It's easier to notice them than it is the sensible people who just think abortion is morally wrong.</quote> Why do you say that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mooreandrew58 05/20/19 3:25:17 PM #16:	Webmaster4531 posted... EndOfDiscOne posted... What is this "planet is overpopulated" meme I've been seeing lately? The truth. I mean yeah a shit ton of problems probably wouldnt really be a problem if we had a lot less people on this planet. Just because its been declining as ive heard some argue doesnt mean we still sont have too many people. And just because there is more places we can cram people doesnt mean its all good. --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>mooreandrew58 posted [p:922145691] in I never un... [t:77728361]...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EndOfDiscOne posted...</cite> <quote>What is this "planet is overpopulated" meme I've been seeing lately?</quote> The truth.</quote> I mean yeah a shit ton of problems probably wouldnt really be a problem if we had a lot less people on this planet. Just because its been declining as ive heard some argue doesnt mean we still sont have too many people. And just because there is more places we can cram people doesnt mean its all good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 05/20/19 4:29:34 PM #17:	spanky1 posted... I'm pro choice myself. And yet I am constantly disappointed by the defense and arguments of pro choicers. They go on and on about things that don't matter to pro lifers and then wonder why they haven't changed their mind. The bottom line is pro lifers believe getting an abortion is the same as murdering a baby. That's it. That's the only point that pro choicers ever really need to contend with. And yet I hardly ever see pro choicers actually addressing that point. Like, yeah, lifers want a woman who got an abortion to have a greater sentence than the rapist. That's because they believe its baby murder. Murdering a baby should have a greater sentence than raping someone. But choicers hardly ever seem to tackle that basic issue. They need to just stick to constantly offering arguments as to why terminating a fetus is not the same as plunging a knife into the heart of a newborn baby. Because to a pro lifer, there is no difference. The point, when addressed, does not get anywhere because pro lifers do not really understand their own position. Lets say you start out by saying that Murder is the unlawful killing of a human--abortion, being legal, is by definition not murder. Then they just say they're against killing humans in general and it starts a chain of constantly reframing the debate with no end. It's like playing a game with some 8 year old that he just made up except every time you win he reveals that there's this rule you didn't know about which means he actually wins instead. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:922148339] in I never un... [t:77728361]...</cite> <quote><cite>spanky1 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm pro choice myself. And yet I am constantly disappointed by the defense and arguments of pro choicers. They go on and on about things that don't matter to pro lifers and then wonder why they haven't changed their mind. The bottom line is pro lifers believe getting an abortion is the same as murdering a baby. That's it. That's the only point that pro choicers ever really need to contend with. And yet I hardly ever see pro choicers actually addressing that point. Like, yeah, lifers want a woman who got an abortion to have a greater sentence than the rapist. That's because they believe its baby murder. Murdering a baby should have a greater sentence than raping someone. But choicers hardly ever seem to tackle that basic issue. They need to just stick to constantly offering arguments as to why terminating a fetus is not the same as plunging a knife into the heart of a newborn baby. Because to a pro lifer, there is no difference.</quote> The point, when addressed, does not get anywhere because pro lifers do not really understand their own position. Lets say you start out by saying that Murder is the unlawful killing of a human--abortion, being legal, is by definition not murder. Then they just say they're against killing humans in general and it starts a chain of constantly reframing the debate with no end. It's like playing a game with some 8 year old that he just made up except every time you win he reveals that there's this rule you didn't know about which means he actually wins instead.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sad_Face 05/20/19 4:45:36 PM #18:	Tyranthraxus posted... The point, when addressed, does not get anywhere because pro lifers do not really understand their own position. You're making this out to be 1000x more complicated than it really is. Prolifers believe that the baby is human life at conception. Aborting the zygote/embryo/fetus (whatever stage it's in) is murder and murder is wrong. Stop murdering babies. The end. For the record, I am a Pro lifer and consider abortion as lawful homicide, but as a proud American, I believe in sacrificing the many to save the few, i.e. me. If babies need to get killed to before birth to reduce the amount of unwanted babies living in poverty to create less problem children and ultimately make our communities safer, let 'em rip. If my brethren in Africa are being abused to to get the materials to build my iPhone and Macbook, thank you for your service. If those poor chinese laborers are getting tormented at Foxconn to assemble my Macbook and my Nintendo Switch to the point where they are jumping off of roofs to escape their hell only to get blocked by safety nets, I'm so sorry. And if the rest of you motha heifers reading this post get blindsided when the rest of the world moves on to a new world reserve currency using distributed ledger technology (blockchain) from the USD and the USD starts to hyperinflate leaving your savings worthless, you have my words of encouragement, I believe in you! --- imgtc.com/i/4HgTl0ebzq.jpg imgtc.com/i/60CWP2Gtlg.gif <cite>Sad_Face posted [p:922148964] in I never un... [t:77728361]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote>The point, when addressed, does not get anywhere because pro lifers do not really understand their own position.</quote> You're making this out to be 1000x more complicated than it really is. Prolifers believe that the baby is human life at conception. Aborting the zygote/embryo/fetus (whatever stage it's in) is murder and murder is wrong. Stop murdering babies. The end. For the record, I am a Pro lifer and consider abortion as lawful homicide, but as a proud American, I believe in sacrificing the many to save the few, i.e. me. If babies need to get killed to before birth to reduce the amount of unwanted babies living in poverty to create less problem children and ultimately make our communities safer, let 'em rip. If my brethren in Africa are being abused to to get the materials to build my iPhone and Macbook, thank you for your service. If those poor chinese laborers are getting tormented at Foxconn to assemble my Macbook and my Nintendo Switch to the point where they are jumping off of roofs to escape their hell only to get blocked by safety nets, I'm so sorry. And if the rest of you motha heifers reading this post get blindsided when the rest of the world moves on to a new world reserve currency using distributed ledger technology (blockchain) from the USD and the USD starts to hyperinflate leaving your savings worthless, you have my words of encouragement, I believe in you!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 05/20/19 5:33:08 PM #19:	emblem boy posted... Umbreon posted... emblem boy posted... Some have an inability to realize that pro lifers aren't mustache twirling villains that just want to control people. It's because a lot of these legislators are on the mustache twirling level. It's easier to notice them than it is the sensible people who just think abortion is morally wrong. Why do you say that --- This is a mobile account, forgive any errors. ~DYL~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTEX3YdEi7s <cite>Umbreon posted [p:922150971] in I never un... [t:77728361]...</cite> <quote><cite>emblem boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Umbreon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>emblem boy posted...</cite> <quote> Some have an inability to realize that pro lifers aren't mustache twirling villains that just want to control people.</quote> It's because a lot of these legislators are on the mustache twirling level. It's easier to notice them than it is the sensible people who just think abortion is morally wrong.</quote> Why do you say that</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Orlando_Jordan 05/21/19 12:47:49 AM #21:	Conflict posted... Wow, TC making a good topic? You don't see that every day Yes, you do. --- "All I'm offering is the truth, nothing more."-Morpheus <cite>Orlando_Jordan posted [p:922167933] in I never un... [t:77728361]...</cite> <quote><cite>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote>Wow, TC making a good topic? You don't see that every day</quote> Yes, you do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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