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King_Hellebuyck 05/12/19 9:06:41 AM #1:	https://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/immigrant-mom-loses-effort-regain-son-us-parents/story?id=16803067 In a controversial case that involved the rights of illegal immigrants and their young children, a Guatemalan mother lost her effort today to get back the five-year old son who was taken away from her after her arrest on immigration charges and put up for adoption in Missouri despite her objections. A Missouri judge ruled the boy should stay with the Missouri couple, Melinda and Seth Moser, who took him into their home five years ago while his mother was in federal custody, where she attempted in vain to oppose the adoption proceedings. "Nobody could help me because I don't speak English," said Encarnacion Bail Romero in an interview with ABC News. The child, born as Carlos but renamed Jamison by the Mosers, has been with his adoptive parents in Carthage, Missouri since the age of 11 months. The judge said the biological mother had no rights to even see her child, according to the mother's lawyer. Asked if the Mosers would allow Bail Romero to see the child, the Mosers' attorney, Joseph Hensley, said the couple was "not willing to comment on that at this time." 'We're extremely happy about the decision," said Hensley, who also noted that the decision "really puts the biological mom in a difficult decision in terms of staying in this country." The ruling today reaffirmed the original decision by another Missouri judge who terminated the parental rights of Bail Romero, stating that "illegally smuggling herself into the country is not a lifestyle that can provide any stability for the child." The Missouri Supreme Court called the initial decision a "travesty of justice" and ordered a review of the case by a second judge. Appearing outside the courtroom with tears in her eyes, the biological mother declined to comment. Her lawyer, Curtis Woods, said he would appeal the decision of the judge who he said ruled Encarnacion Bail Romero's parental rights had been terminated because she had abandoned him while she was incarcerated. "I am very disappointed in the decision," said Woods. The judge handed down the decision in a courtroom closed to all but the parties involved and their lawyers. There was no translator provided by the court today for the Guatemalan woman, who speaks only a little English. The ruling allows the formal adoption proceedings by the Mosers to proceed. The Mosers left the court without speaking to reporters, but they had previously argued in court that they could best provide for the boy and that they were the only parents that he knew. "I could not love him more, had he come out of me physically," Melinda Moser said in an earlier interview. The biological mother was arrested in 2007 on an immigration raid at a chicken processing plant in Missouri and has not seen her son since. --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:921790153] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote>https://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/immigrant-mom-loses-effort-regain-son-us-parents/story?id=16803067 <quote>In a controversial case that involved the rights of illegal immigrants and their young children, a Guatemalan mother lost her effort today to get back the five-year old son who was taken away from her after her arrest on immigration charges and put up for adoption in Missouri despite her objections. A Missouri judge ruled the boy should stay with the Missouri couple, Melinda and Seth Moser, who took him into their home five years ago while his mother was in federal custody, where she attempted in vain to oppose the adoption proceedings. "Nobody could help me because I don't speak English," said Encarnacion Bail Romero in an interview with ABC News. The child, born as Carlos but renamed Jamison by the Mosers, has been with his adoptive parents in Carthage, Missouri since the age of 11 months. The judge said the biological mother had no rights to even see her child, according to the mother's lawyer. Asked if the Mosers would allow Bail Romero to see the child, the Mosers' attorney, Joseph Hensley, said the couple was "not willing to comment on that at this time." 'We're extremely happy about the decision," said Hensley, who also noted that the decision "really puts the biological mom in a difficult decision in terms of staying in this country." The ruling today reaffirmed the original decision by another Missouri judge who terminated the parental rights of Bail Romero, stating that "illegally smuggling herself into the country is not a lifestyle that can provide any stability for the child." The Missouri Supreme Court called the initial decision a "travesty of justice" and ordered a review of the case by a second judge. Appearing outside the courtroom with tears in her eyes, the biological mother declined to comment. Her lawyer, Curtis Woods, said he would appeal the decision of the judge who he said ruled Encarnacion Bail Romero's parental rights had been terminated because she had abandoned him while she was incarcerated. "I am very disappointed in the decision," said Woods. The judge handed down the decision in a courtroom closed to all but the parties involved and their lawyers. There was no translator provided by the court today for the Guatemalan woman, who speaks only a little English. The ruling allows the formal adoption proceedings by the Mosers to proceed. The Mosers left the court without speaking to reporters, but they had previously argued in court that they could best provide for the boy and that they were the only parents that he knew. "I could not love him more, had he come out of me physically," Melinda Moser said in an earlier interview. The biological mother was arrested in 2007 on an immigration raid at a chicken processing plant in Missouri and has not seen her son since.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlisLandale 05/12/19 9:10:39 AM #2:	This was in 2012. Wonder whats been going on since. The adoptive family comes off as kind of skeevy for renaming the child though, idk. --- https://i.imgtc.com/8ePXf9B.gif If Yamcha would have brought his bat along he'd have blasted Jiren out of the ring like Ness in smash brothers. - Gids_goft <cite>AlisLandale posted [p:921790221] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote>This was in 2012. Wonder whats been going on since. The adoptive family comes off as kind of skeevy for renaming the child though, idk.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ilishe 05/12/19 9:11:15 AM #3:	Travesty of justice, that's accurate --- ~Phoenix Nine~ ~Victory needs no explanation; defeat allows none.~ <cite>Ilishe posted [p:921790233] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote>Travesty of justice, that's accurate</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vicious_Dios 05/12/19 9:12:21 AM #4:	AlisLandale posted... This was in 2012. Wonder whats been going on since. The adoptive family comes off as kind of skeevy for renaming the child though, idk. Thanks, Obama. --- S / K / Y / N / E Twitch/YouTube/GT: *Adzeta* <cite>Vicious_Dios posted [p:921790261] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlisLandale posted...</cite> <quote>This was in 2012. Wonder whats been going on since. The adoptive family comes off as kind of skeevy for renaming the child though, idk.</quote> Thanks, Obama.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 05/12/19 9:17:19 AM #5:	AlisLandale posted... This was in 2012. Wonder whats been going on since. Oh shit it is. A few friends posted it this morning and apparently Im too asleep to notice dates. --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:921790339] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlisLandale posted...</cite> <quote>This was in 2012. Wonder whats been going on since.</quote> Oh shit it is. A few friends posted it this morning and apparently Im too asleep to notice dates.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sphyx 05/12/19 9:17:51 AM #6:	America's answer to the Stolen Generations? --- You're so vain, You probably think this sig is about you. <cite>Sphyx posted [p:921790348] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote>America's answer to the Stolen Generations?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 05/12/19 9:18:55 AM #7:	Seems like a no-win situation really. Take the kid away from them, you're essentially ripping him away from his parents. Leave the kid, you're depriving a mother of her child. I'd say best scenario for the kid is leave him with his adoptive parents. He's old enough that ripping him away from that life could probably mess him up quite badly at this point. <cite>nemu posted [p:921790368] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote>Seems like a no-win situation really. Take the kid away from them, you're essentially ripping him away from his parents. Leave the kid, you're depriving a mother of her child. I'd say best scenario for the kid is leave him with his adoptive parents. He's old enough that ripping him away from that life could probably mess him up quite badly at this point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 05/12/19 9:25:37 AM #8:	those waste of human beings who took him away are probably going to make the kid believe his mother abandoned him but he was stolen the mother fought on the courts for 7 years to try to get him back(up until 2014) ... and now some parents were separated from their childrens and deported without them so there is a huge risk this happens again --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:921790512] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote>those waste of human beings who took him away are probably going to make the kid believe his mother abandoned him but he was stolen the mother fought on the courts for 7 years to try to get him back(up until 2014) ... and now some parents were separated from their childrens and deported without them so there is a huge risk this happens again</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
solosnake 05/12/19 9:29:57 AM #9:	marc55 posted... those waste of human beings who took him away are probably going to make the kid believe his mother abandoned him but he was stolen the mother fought on the courts for 7 years to try to get him back(up until 2014) ... and now some parents were separated from their childrens and deported without them so there is a huge risk this happens again lol, this isnt an isolated case at all. Quite common sadly --- "We would have no NBA possibly if they got rid of all the flopping." ~ Dwyane Wade https://imgur.com/MYYEIx5 https://imgur.com/WGE12ef <cite>solosnake posted [p:921790597] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote>those waste of human beings who took him away are probably going to make the kid believe his mother abandoned him but he was stolen the mother fought on the courts for 7 years to try to get him back(up until 2014) ... and now some parents were separated from their childrens and deported without them so there is a huge risk this happens again</quote> lol, this isnt an isolated case at all. Quite common sadly</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YourDrunkFather 05/12/19 9:31:34 AM #10:	Obama's America --- One bourbon,one scotch,one beer <cite>YourDrunkFather posted [p:921790631] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote>Obama's America</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Snip-N-Snails 05/12/19 9:34:58 AM #11:	Very sad situation but as hes already been living there for 5 years since he was 11 months it does seem like his life would be better with the adopted parents. <cite>Snip-N-Snails posted [p:921790688] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote>Very sad situation but as hes already been living there for 5 years since he was 11 months it does seem like his life would be better with the adopted parents.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
solosnake 05/12/19 9:36:10 AM #12:	Snip-N-Snails posted... Very sad situation but as hes already been living there for 5 years since he was 11 months it does seem like his life would be better with the adopted parents. I really dont agree with this logic lol. --- "We would have no NBA possibly if they got rid of all the flopping." ~ Dwyane Wade https://imgur.com/MYYEIx5 https://imgur.com/WGE12ef <cite>solosnake posted [p:921790707] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote><cite>Snip-N-Snails posted...</cite> <quote>Very sad situation but as hes already been living there for 5 years since he was 11 months it does seem like his life would be better with the adopted parents.</quote> I really dont agree with this logic lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctaviaMelody69 05/12/19 9:38:35 AM #13:	AlisLandale posted... This was in 2012. Wonder whats been going on since. The adoptive family comes off as kind of skeevy for renaming the child though, idk. I wouldn't say so, the infant was 11 months old. Regardless, this is a fucking tragic case but the boy is over 5 years old at this point. Surrendering him to his biological mother would potentially cause him grief and confusion. --- Stay Positive / In memory of v http://error1355.com/ce/SweetieBelle462.html <cite>OctaviaMelody69 posted [p:921790769] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlisLandale posted...</cite> <quote>This was in 2012. Wonder whats been going on since. The adoptive family comes off as kind of skeevy for renaming the child though, idk.</quote> I wouldn't say so, the infant was 11 months old. Regardless, this is a fucking tragic case but the boy is over 5 years old at this point. Surrendering him to his biological mother would potentially cause him grief and confusion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 05/12/19 10:03:56 AM #14:	Snip-N-Snails posted... Very sad situation but as hes already been living there for 5 years since he was 11 months it does seem like his life would be better with the adopted parents. when kid was stolen he was only 1 year old and thats when the mother started to fight for him he shouldve been sent back with her back then because she never gave him up this is the worst part about this because i doubt they told the kid " your mom wanted you back when you were a baby but we stopped her !" --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:921791286] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote><cite>Snip-N-Snails posted...</cite> <quote>Very sad situation but as hes already been living there for 5 years since he was 11 months it does seem like his life would be better with the adopted parents.</quote> when kid was stolen he was only 1 year old and thats when the mother started to fight for him he shouldve been sent back with her back then because she never gave him up this is the worst part about this because i doubt they told the kid " your mom wanted you back when you were a baby but we stopped her !"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 05/12/19 10:05:31 AM #15:	No take backsies --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:921791321] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote>No take backsies</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 05/12/19 10:20:59 AM #16:	Illegal Immigrant mom loses effort to regain son given to an American family Fixed the title for ya tc. Get some sleep. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:921791652] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote>Illegal Immigrant mom loses effort to regain son given to an American family Fixed the title for ya tc. Get some sleep.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 05/12/19 10:28:36 AM #17:	If she cared for her son so much why did she go and get herself arrested. Immigrate legally, please. The biological mother is terrible for causing this situation to begin with. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:921791833] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote>If she cared for her son so much why did she go and get herself arrested. Immigrate legally, please. The biological mother is terrible for causing this situation to begin with.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BignutzisBack 05/12/19 10:30:13 AM #18:	YourDrunkFather posted... Obama's America --- https://imgur.com/plA0Vg9 https://media.giphy.com/media/dgK22exekwOLm/giphy.gif <cite>BignutzisBack posted [p:921791874] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote><cite>YourDrunkFather posted...</cite> <quote>Obama's America</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 05/12/19 10:30:56 AM #19:	Rika_Furude posted... If she cared for her son so much why did she go and get herself arrested. Immigrate legally, please. The biological mother is terrible for causing this situation to begin with. she didnt cause it the ones who stole the child from her did --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:921791891] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>If she cared for her son so much why did she go and get herself arrested. Immigrate legally, please. The biological mother is terrible for causing this situation to begin with.</quote> she didnt cause it the ones who stole the child from her did</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
codey 05/12/19 10:35:28 AM #20:	Who the fuck renames a child they adopt The level of disrespect is ridiculous --- *runs out of topic naked* <cite>codey posted [p:921792003] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote>Who the fuck renames a child they adopt The level of disrespect is ridiculous</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 05/12/19 10:39:29 AM #21:	codey posted... Who the fuck renames a child they adopt The level of disrespect is ridiculous I could see that being an issue if the kid had any conception of his own name, but he was under a year old. It's not like a name is some sacred, immutable concept. <cite>nemu posted [p:921792135] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote><cite>codey posted...</cite> <quote>Who the fuck renames a child they adopt The level of disrespect is ridiculous</quote> I could see that being an issue if the kid had any conception of his own name, but he was under a year old. It's not like a name is some sacred, immutable concept.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 05/12/19 10:41:02 AM #22:	she probably hates her brother with a good reason too she left the kid with him while at work and he left it with some friends who were the ones to put the kid for adoption..... didnt know there were laws allowing people to put someone else kid for adoption --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:921792176] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote>she probably hates her brother with a good reason too she left the kid with him while at work and he left it with some friends who were the ones to put the kid for adoption..... didnt know there were laws allowing people to put someone else kid for adoption</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
codey 05/12/19 10:42:58 AM #23:	nemu posted... codey posted... Who the fuck renames a child they adopt The level of disrespect is ridiculous I could see that being an issue if the kid had any conception of his own name, but he was under a year old. It's not like a name is some sacred, immutable concept. The kid's name is a direct tie to his heritage, and they named changed it to Jamison. --- *runs out of topic naked* <cite>codey posted [p:921792225] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>codey posted...</cite> <quote>Who the fuck renames a child they adopt The level of disrespect is ridiculous</quote> I could see that being an issue if the kid had any conception of his own name, but he was under a year old. It's not like a name is some sacred, immutable concept.</quote> The kid's name is a direct tie to his heritage, and they named changed it to Jamison.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 05/12/19 10:43:44 AM #24:	BignutzisBack posted... YourDrunkFather posted... Obama's America The Obama Administration wasnt kind to immigrants, which is what makes it so insane to hear Trumpers act like he had open borders --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:921792241] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote><cite>BignutzisBack posted...</cite> <quote><cite>YourDrunkFather posted...</cite> <quote>Obama's America</quote></quote> The Obama Administration wasnt kind to immigrants, which is what makes it so insane to hear Trumpers act like he had open borders</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coastal_elite 05/12/19 10:43:50 AM #25:	She should appeal all the way to SCOTUS. Kavanaugh, Gorsuch and Thomas will salivate at the thought of kicking out yet another brown kid out of the country and therefore give the kid to the legitimate mom. <cite>Coastal_elite posted [p:921792246] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote>She should appeal all the way to SCOTUS. Kavanaugh, Gorsuch and Thomas will salivate at the thought of kicking out yet another brown kid out of the country and therefore give the kid to the legitimate mom.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
codey 05/12/19 10:48:39 AM #26:	Sad thing is, this has stuck. There's no updates on the story since 2012, and the only articles I found it mentioned in just use it as an example. --- *runs out of topic naked* <cite>codey posted [p:921792399] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote>Sad thing is, this has stuck. There's no updates on the story since 2012, and the only articles I found it mentioned in just use it as an example.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 05/12/19 10:49:07 AM #27:	Coastal_elite posted... She should appeal all the way to SCOTUS. Kavanaugh, Gorsuch and Thomas will salivate at the thought of kicking out yet another brown kid out of the country and therefore give the kid to the legitimate mom. she did in 2014 and lost again --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:921792418] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coastal_elite posted...</cite> <quote>She should appeal all the way to SCOTUS. Kavanaugh, Gorsuch and Thomas will salivate at the thought of kicking out yet another brown kid out of the country and therefore give the kid to the legitimate mom.</quote> she did in 2014 and lost again</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirkDiggles 05/12/19 10:53:01 AM #28:	This was straight up governmental kidnapping. I'm alright with deportation, but splitting up families to do so is vile. --- https://imgtc.com/i/5CTKeaL.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/G9w39yE.gif <cite>DirkDiggles posted [p:921792546] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote>This was straight up governmental kidnapping. I'm alright with deportation, but splitting up families to do so is vile.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 05/12/19 10:58:21 AM #29:	DirkDiggles posted... This was straight up governmental kidnapping. I'm alright with deportation, but splitting up families to do so is vile. the story is being used as a reminder the government can steal children a i read about 400+ parents who were deported without their children --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:921792696] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote><cite>DirkDiggles posted...</cite> <quote>This was straight up governmental kidnapping. I'm alright with deportation, but splitting up families to do so is vile.</quote> the story is being used as a reminder the government can steal children a i read about 400+ parents who were deported without their children</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coastal_elite 05/12/19 11:09:16 AM #30:	marc55 posted... Coastal_elite posted... She should appeal all the way to SCOTUS. Kavanaugh, Gorsuch and Thomas will salivate at the thought of kicking out yet another brown kid out of the country and therefore give the kid to the legitimate mom. she did in 2014 and lost again too bad kavanaugh and gorsuch weren't around back then, she'd have won. Kav's majority opinion would have been something like "down with brown" LOL <cite>Coastal_elite posted [p:921793057] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coastal_elite posted...</cite> <quote>She should appeal all the way to SCOTUS. Kavanaugh, Gorsuch and Thomas will salivate at the thought of kicking out yet another brown kid out of the country and therefore give the kid to the legitimate mom.</quote> she did in 2014 and lost again</quote> too bad kavanaugh and gorsuch weren't around back then, she'd have won. Kav's majority opinion would have been something like "down with brown" LOL</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 05/12/19 11:12:54 AM #31:	Coastal_elite posted... marc55 posted... Coastal_elite posted... She should appeal all the way to SCOTUS. Kavanaugh, Gorsuch and Thomas will salivate at the thought of kicking out yet another brown kid out of the country and therefore give the kid to the legitimate mom. she did in 2014 and lost again too bad kavanaugh and gorsuch weren't around back then, she'd have won. Kav's majority opinion would have been something like "down with brown" LOL but ive read they are being given papers to sign without informing them whats all about ........so many may end up giving up their childrens without knowing --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:921793192] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coastal_elite posted...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coastal_elite posted...</cite> <quote>She should appeal all the way to SCOTUS. Kavanaugh, Gorsuch and Thomas will salivate at the thought of kicking out yet another brown kid out of the country and therefore give the kid to the legitimate mom.</quote> she did in 2014 and lost again</quote> too bad kavanaugh and gorsuch weren't around back then, she'd have won. Kav's majority opinion would have been something like "down with brown" LOL</quote> but ive read they are being given papers to sign without informing them whats all about ........so many may end up giving up their childrens without knowing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GasMonkey 05/12/19 11:14:03 AM #32:	you all starting to see that maybe america was never great to start with? it has been a shitshow from the start. --- life at 165mph <cite>GasMonkey posted [p:921793227] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote>you all starting to see that maybe america was never great to start with? it has been a shitshow from the start.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 05/12/19 11:22:43 AM #33:	Pretty fucked up how there wasnt even a translator in the court room for her. --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:921793526] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote>Pretty fucked up how there wasnt even a translator in the court room for her.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CommonStar 05/12/19 11:39:42 AM #34:	King_Hellebuyck posted... Pretty fucked up how there wasnt even a translator in the court room for her. Yeah that is pretty shady. And the judge saying she has no rights to see her son? Like wtf. <cite>CommonStar posted [p:921794133] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>Pretty fucked up how there wasnt even a translator in the court room for her.</quote> Yeah that is pretty shady. And the judge saying she has no rights to see her son? Like wtf.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 05/12/19 11:41:09 AM #35:	CommonStar posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... Pretty fucked up how there wasnt even a translator in the court room for her. Yeah that is pretty shady. And the judge saying she has no rights to see her son? Like wtf. She's literally entered this country illegally. What rights is she suppose to have? She's not suppose to be here. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:921794173] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote><cite>CommonStar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>Pretty fucked up how there wasnt even a translator in the court room for her.</quote> Yeah that is pretty shady. And the judge saying she has no rights to see her son? Like wtf.</quote> She's literally entered this country illegally. What rights is she suppose to have? She's not suppose to be here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 05/12/19 11:43:19 AM #36:	karlpilkington4 posted... CommonStar posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... Pretty fucked up how there wasnt even a translator in the court room for her. Yeah that is pretty shady. And the judge saying she has no rights to see her son? Like wtf. She's literally entered this country illegally. What rights is she suppose to have? She's not suppose to be here. all of them --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:921794253] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CommonStar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>Pretty fucked up how there wasnt even a translator in the court room for her.</quote> Yeah that is pretty shady. And the judge saying she has no rights to see her son? Like wtf.</quote> She's literally entered this country illegally. What rights is she suppose to have? She's not suppose to be here.</quote> all of them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
solosnake 05/12/19 11:44:57 AM #37:	karlpilkington4 posted... CommonStar posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... Pretty fucked up how there wasnt even a translator in the court room for her. Yeah that is pretty shady. And the judge saying she has no rights to see her son? Like wtf. She's literally entered this country illegally. What rights is she suppose to have? She's not suppose to be here. Shouldnt mess with the empire or you might lose your kids. Its your fault if you dont know english really /s --- "We would have no NBA possibly if they got rid of all the flopping." ~ Dwyane Wade https://imgur.com/MYYEIx5 https://imgur.com/WGE12ef <cite>solosnake posted [p:921794304] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CommonStar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>Pretty fucked up how there wasnt even a translator in the court room for her.</quote> Yeah that is pretty shady. And the judge saying she has no rights to see her son? Like wtf.</quote> She's literally entered this country illegally. What rights is she suppose to have? She's not suppose to be here.</quote> Shouldnt mess with the empire or you might lose your kids. Its your fault if you dont know english really /s</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 05/12/19 11:45:21 AM #38:	That kid will grow up and learn the truth and fucking despise his adopted parents. I hope someday he can find his mom when he's like 20 or something <cite>Zikten posted [p:921794319] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote>That kid will grow up and learn the truth and fucking despise his adopted parents. I hope someday he can find his mom when he's like 20 or something</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
karlpilkington4 05/12/19 11:47:14 AM #39:	marc55 posted... karlpilkington4 posted... CommonStar posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... Pretty fucked up how there wasnt even a translator in the court room for her. Yeah that is pretty shady. And the judge saying she has no rights to see her son? Like wtf. She's literally entered this country illegally. What rights is she suppose to have? She's not suppose to be here. all of them In her country, I'm sure she has plenty of rights. This isn't her country. --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" <cite>karlpilkington4 posted [p:921794383] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CommonStar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>Pretty fucked up how there wasnt even a translator in the court room for her.</quote> Yeah that is pretty shady. And the judge saying she has no rights to see her son? Like wtf.</quote> She's literally entered this country illegally. What rights is she suppose to have? She's not suppose to be here.</quote> all of them</quote> In her country, I'm sure she has plenty of rights. This isn't her country.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kami_no_Kami 05/12/19 11:58:55 AM #40:	nemu posted... Seems like a no-win situation really. Take the kid away from them, you're essentially ripping him away from his parents. Leave the kid, you're depriving a mother of her child. I'd say best scenario for the kid is leave him with his adoptive parents. He's old enough that ripping him away from that life could probably mess him up quite badly at this point. Honestly, that last part will happen either way. The first time he googles his name (he probably already has) will tell him who he really is. Even if his adoptive parents have been open with him about this, the first person who googles his name at any school, any work-place, any social circle will also see who he really is. <cite>Kami_no_Kami posted [p:921794776] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>Seems like a no-win situation really. Take the kid away from them, you're essentially ripping him away from his parents. Leave the kid, you're depriving a mother of her child. I'd say best scenario for the kid is leave him with his adoptive parents. He's old enough that ripping him away from that life could probably mess him up quite badly at this point.</quote> Honestly, that last part will happen either way. The first time he googles his name (he probably already has) will tell him who he really is. Even if his adoptive parents have been open with him about this, the first person who googles his name at any school, any work-place, any social circle will also see who he really is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spudger 05/12/19 12:01:21 PM #41:	after 5 years it might be more harmful to the child to be removed from the only family they remember. I could see granting visitation rights its a tough issue because both sides have valid claims this kid will probably have a better life here than back in its native country, however. --- -Only dead fish swim with the current http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html <cite>spudger posted [p:921794850] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote>after 5 years it might be more harmful to the child to be removed from the only family they remember. I could see granting visitation rights its a tough issue because both sides have valid claims this kid will probably have a better life here than back in its native country, however.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
josifrees 05/12/19 12:03:53 PM #42:	marc55 posted... those waste of human beings who took him away are probably going to make the kid believe his mother abandoned him but he was stolen This is exactly what happens in these children camps. Tell a kid separated from their parents that their parents abandoned them. Even if they are reunited the damage has been done --- Quit Crying <cite>josifrees posted [p:921794930] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote>those waste of human beings who took him away are probably going to make the kid believe his mother abandoned him but he was stolen </quote> This is exactly what happens in these children camps. Tell a kid separated from their parents that their parents abandoned them. Even if they are reunited the damage has been done</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CommonStar 05/12/19 12:17:09 PM #43:	josifrees posted... marc55 posted... those waste of human beings who took him away are probably going to make the kid believe his mother abandoned him but he was stolen This is exactly what happens in these children camps. Tell a kid separated from their parents that their parents abandoned them. Even if they are reunited the damage has been done The damage was completely caused by our legal system. The Missouri Supreme Court ruled unanimously that her legal rights as a parent were wrongly terminated. It was the lower courts that pushed for a retrial leaving the custody/adoption of the child in limbo for many years instead of immediately awarding the mother custody of the child. Not to mention that her son was put up for adoption while she was in jail lacking any legal representation. <cite>CommonStar posted [p:921795368] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote><cite>josifrees posted...</cite> <quote><cite>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote>those waste of human beings who took him away are probably going to make the kid believe his mother abandoned him but he was stolen </quote> This is exactly what happens in these children camps. Tell a kid separated from their parents that their parents abandoned them. Even if they are reunited the damage has been done</quote> The damage was completely caused by our legal system. The Missouri Supreme Court ruled unanimously that her legal rights as a parent were wrongly terminated. It was the lower courts that pushed for a retrial leaving the custody/adoption of the child in limbo for many years instead of immediately awarding the mother custody of the child. Not to mention that her son was put up for adoption while she was in jail lacking any legal representation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirkDiggles 05/12/19 12:43:48 PM #44:	karlpilkington4 posted... CommonStar posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... Pretty fucked up how there wasnt even a translator in the court room for her. Yeah that is pretty shady. And the judge saying she has no rights to see her son? Like wtf. She's literally entered this country illegally. What rights is she suppose to have? She's not suppose to be here. Basic human rights? This isn's suppose to be 1930's Nazi Germany. --- https://imgtc.com/i/5CTKeaL.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/G9w39yE.gif <cite>DirkDiggles posted [p:921796354] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote><cite>karlpilkington4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CommonStar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>Pretty fucked up how there wasnt even a translator in the court room for her.</quote> Yeah that is pretty shady. And the judge saying she has no rights to see her son? Like wtf.</quote> She's literally entered this country illegally. What rights is she suppose to have? She's not suppose to be here.</quote> Basic human rights? This isn's suppose to be 1930's Nazi Germany.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 05/12/19 12:47:09 PM #45:	Its weird how many people are in favor of state sponsored kidnapping --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:921796481] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote>Its weird how many people are in favor of state sponsored kidnapping</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coastal_elite 05/12/19 6:27:38 PM #46:	Do the parents even like the kid? The obvious answer is 'yes', but don't forget Laura Ingraham adopted a Guatemalan girl and then became a white supremacist and adopted 2 (3?) russian kids to make up for it. A relative of Jeff Sessions adopted a black girl... awkward! <cite>Coastal_elite posted [p:921809184] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote>Do the parents even like the kid? The obvious answer is 'yes', but don't forget Laura Ingraham adopted a Guatemalan girl and then became a white supremacist and adopted 2 (3?) russian kids to make up for it. A relative of Jeff Sessions adopted a black girl... awkward!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 05/12/19 11:34:02 PM #47:	King_Hellebuyck posted... Its weird how many people are in favor of state sponsored kidnapping Its weird how you dumb down a complex case to drivel like this --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:921821203] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>Its weird how many people are in favor of state sponsored kidnapping</quote> Its weird how you dumb down a complex case to drivel like this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 05/12/19 11:36:29 PM #48:	Imagine fleeing your homeland to help your family and then getting your children ripped from you and being called an unsuitable parent for it. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:921821288] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote>Imagine fleeing your homeland to help your family and then getting your children ripped from you and being called an unsuitable parent for it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 05/12/19 11:39:02 PM #50:	And they renamed him Jamison. What a travesty --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:921821383] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote>And they renamed him Jamison. What a travesty</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirkDiggles 05/12/19 11:48:05 PM #51:	Rika_Furude posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... Its weird how many people are in favor of state sponsored kidnapping Its weird how you dumb down a complex case to drivel like this How did he dumb it down? Call a spade a spade. It's state ran kidnapping, or are you saying that drug addicts and violent criminals who end up getting their children back more responsible than a lady who crossed our border illegally? --- https://imgtc.com/i/5CTKeaL.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/G9w39yE.gif <cite>DirkDiggles posted [p:921821734] in Immigrant ... [t:77709831]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>Its weird how many people are in favor of state sponsored kidnapping</quote> Its weird how you dumb down a complex case to drivel like this</quote> How did he dumb it down? Call a spade a spade. It's state ran kidnapping, or are you saying that drug addicts and violent criminals who end up getting their children back more responsible than a lady who crossed our border illegally?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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