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soulunison2 05/12/19 6:59:41 PM #51:	MTT + BJJ is the way to go, your clinch becomes twice as deadly - but if its just a random dude on the street just put him to the ground and hold him and have someone call the police dont ever strike unless absolutely necessary The untrained individual doesnt know how to escape when their back is taken <cite>soulunison2 posted [p:921810424] in when no on... [t:77707450]...</cite> <quote>MTT + BJJ is the way to go, your clinch becomes twice as deadly - but if its just a random dude on the street just put him to the ground and hold him and have someone call the police dont ever strike unless absolutely necessary The untrained individual doesnt know how to escape when their back is taken</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LostForest 05/12/19 7:03:01 PM #52:	DrizztLink posted... LostForest posted... Maybe I'm based here, but personally I'd say a combination of muaythai (with knowledge of basically any grappling/ground like BJJ or judo) is probably the most practical martial arts for actual defense. Muaythai is fucking brutal. You could really fuck someone up IRL with a well placed elbow strike if you needed to. I remember something about a well-trained boxer being pretty dangerous. I mean yeah muaythai is literally thai boxing. It's just boxing with elbows, knees, and kicks tacked on. --- http://poorcouplesfoodguide.com <cite>LostForest posted [p:921810542] in when no on... [t:77707450]...</cite> <quote><cite>DrizztLink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LostForest posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe I'm based here, but personally I'd say a combination of muaythai (with knowledge of basically any grappling/ground like BJJ or judo) is probably the most practical martial arts for actual defense. Muaythai is fucking brutal. You could really fuck someone up IRL with a well placed elbow strike if you needed to.</quote> I remember something about a well-trained boxer being pretty dangerous.</quote> I mean yeah muaythai is literally thai boxing. It's just boxing with elbows, knees, and kicks tacked on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boxington 05/12/19 7:12:45 PM #53:	Skye Reynolds posted... Remember that movie where Bruce Lee walked into a dojo and beat up like 20 guys single-handedly? These guys must've been graduates of that school of martial arts. it also happened in Ip Man, iirc --- b-bb-box <cite>boxington posted [p:921810909] in when no on... [t:77707450]...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote>Remember that movie where Bruce Lee walked into a dojo and beat up like 20 guys single-handedly? These guys must've been graduates of that school of martial arts.</quote> it also happened in Ip Man, iirc</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 05/12/19 7:15:03 PM #54:	LostForest posted... DrizztLink posted... LostForest posted... Maybe I'm based here, but personally I'd say a combination of muaythai (with knowledge of basically any grappling/ground like BJJ or judo) is probably the most practical martial arts for actual defense. Muaythai is fucking brutal. You could really fuck someone up IRL with a well placed elbow strike if you needed to. I remember something about a well-trained boxer being pretty dangerous. I mean yeah muaythai is literally thai boxing. It's just boxing with elbows, knees, and kicks tacked on. In its earliest forms, you could headbutt too. --- It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog. <cite>brestugo posted [p:921810991] in when no on... [t:77707450]...</cite> <quote><cite>LostForest posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DrizztLink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LostForest posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe I'm based here, but personally I'd say a combination of muaythai (with knowledge of basically any grappling/ground like BJJ or judo) is probably the most practical martial arts for actual defense. Muaythai is fucking brutal. You could really fuck someone up IRL with a well placed elbow strike if you needed to.</quote> I remember something about a well-trained boxer being pretty dangerous.</quote> I mean yeah muaythai is literally thai boxing. It's just boxing with elbows, knees, and kicks tacked on.</quote> In its earliest forms, you could headbutt too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 05/12/19 7:16:22 PM #55:	How is this quality of video allowed in 2019 --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:921811051] in when no on... [t:77707450]...</cite> <quote>How is this quality of video allowed in 2019</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pogo_Marimo 05/12/19 7:22:23 PM #56:	Guide posted... SoraOwnsOctopus posted... What's the most useful fighting discipline for real world? Boxing? Judo? Karate? >_> MMA or Combatives. I'd say Krav Maga, but if you're not learning that in a bombed-out building somewhere in East Asia, it's probably not the real thing. But boxing and judo are great against people with no experience. Karate is too, but there are so many fake schools. Pretty much this. The only "comprehensive" self-defense is proper MMA training, which will include Boxing, Kickboxing/Muay Thai, Freestyle Wrestling, BJJ, and maybe some Judo. Anything beyond that is frankly lacking in crucial areas, but you are still somewhat prepared if you train just Boxing/Kickboxing/Muay Thai, Wrestling, Judo, or BJJ with the caveat that the training features a LOT of direct sparring and a mindset for either professional competition or legitimate self-defense. --- It feels like they're pretending. It's like they just want blowjobs and they know these songs will get them http://www.last.fm/user/Pogo92 <cite>Pogo_Marimo posted [p:921811271] in when no on... [t:77707450]...</cite> <quote><cite>Guide posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SoraOwnsOctopus posted...</cite> <quote>What's the most useful fighting discipline for real world? Boxing? Judo? Karate? >_></quote> MMA or Combatives. I'd say Krav Maga, but if you're not learning that in a bombed-out building somewhere in East Asia, it's probably not the real thing. But boxing and judo are great against people with no experience. Karate is too, but there are so many fake schools.</quote> Pretty much this. The only "comprehensive" self-defense is proper MMA training, which will include Boxing, Kickboxing/Muay Thai, Freestyle Wrestling, BJJ, and maybe some Judo. Anything beyond that is frankly lacking in crucial areas, but you are still somewhat prepared if you train just Boxing/Kickboxing/Muay Thai, Wrestling, Judo, or BJJ with the caveat that the training features a LOT of direct sparring and a mindset for either professional competition or legitimate self-defense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 05/12/19 7:35:13 PM #57:	boxington posted... so I just watched this guy's video, and it looks like the taekwondo guys started flopping when they realized all of the people filming them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDrNOiHtAzI" data-time=" they we're having seizures at the same time from all those bright lights. after it happened they can't remember anything from the event. --- God was literally #MeToo'd because Mary "didn't give consent," so now God is a literal rapist, but there's no war on Christmas - CronoDyne <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:921811789] in when no on... [t:77707450]...</cite> <quote><cite>boxington posted...</cite> <quote>so I just watched this guy's video, and it looks like the taekwondo guys started flopping when they realized all of the people filming them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDrNOiHtAzI" data-time="</quote> they we're having seizures at the same time from all those bright lights. after it happened they can't remember anything from the event.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
soulunison2 05/12/19 7:43:34 PM #58:	Pogo_Marimo posted... Guide posted... SoraOwnsOctopus posted... What's the most useful fighting discipline for real world? Boxing? Judo? Karate? >_> MMA or Combatives. I'd say Krav Maga, but if you're not learning that in a bombed-out building somewhere in East Asia, it's probably not the real thing. But boxing and judo are great against people with no experience. Karate is too, but there are so many fake schools. Pretty much this. The only "comprehensive" self-defense is proper MMA training, which will include Boxing, Kickboxing/Muay Thai, Freestyle Wrestling, BJJ, and maybe some Judo. Anything beyond that is frankly lacking in crucial areas, but you are still somewhat prepared if you train just Boxing/Kickboxing/Muay Thai, Wrestling, Judo, or BJJ with the caveat that the training features a LOT of direct sparring and a mindset for either professional competition or legitimate self-defense. I have my doubts on krav tho, it suffers the same thing most other mcdojo stuff suffers from in; a - people teach a bastardized version of it b - some moves can't be drilled in sparring <cite>soulunison2 posted [p:921812097] in when no on... [t:77707450]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pogo_Marimo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Guide posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SoraOwnsOctopus posted...</cite> <quote>What's the most useful fighting discipline for real world? Boxing? Judo? Karate? >_></quote> MMA or Combatives. I'd say Krav Maga, but if you're not learning that in a bombed-out building somewhere in East Asia, it's probably not the real thing. But boxing and judo are great against people with no experience. Karate is too, but there are so many fake schools.</quote> Pretty much this. The only "comprehensive" self-defense is proper MMA training, which will include Boxing, Kickboxing/Muay Thai, Freestyle Wrestling, BJJ, and maybe some Judo. Anything beyond that is frankly lacking in crucial areas, but you are still somewhat prepared if you train just Boxing/Kickboxing/Muay Thai, Wrestling, Judo, or BJJ with the caveat that the training features a LOT of direct sparring and a mindset for either professional competition or legitimate self-defense.</quote> I have my doubts on krav tho, it suffers the same thing most other mcdojo stuff suffers from in; a - people teach a bastardized version of it b - some moves can't be drilled in sparring</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pogo_Marimo 05/12/19 8:53:35 PM #59:	soulunison2 posted... Pogo_Marimo posted... Guide posted... SoraOwnsOctopus posted... What's the most useful fighting discipline for real world? Boxing? Judo? Karate? >_> MMA or Combatives. I'd say Krav Maga, but if you're not learning that in a bombed-out building somewhere in East Asia, it's probably not the real thing. But boxing and judo are great against people with no experience. Karate is too, but there are so many fake schools. Pretty much this. The only "comprehensive" self-defense is proper MMA training, which will include Boxing, Kickboxing/Muay Thai, Freestyle Wrestling, BJJ, and maybe some Judo. Anything beyond that is frankly lacking in crucial areas, but you are still somewhat prepared if you train just Boxing/Kickboxing/Muay Thai, Wrestling, Judo, or BJJ with the caveat that the training features a LOT of direct sparring and a mindset for either professional competition or legitimate self-defense. I have my doubts on krav tho, it suffers the same thing most other mcdojo stuff suffers from in; a - people teach a bastardized version of it b - some moves can't be drilled in sparring Yeah. Same for TKD or Karate. They can absolutely be good, but it really comes down to the training methods and "mindset" more than anything. If, for instance, your TKD does live sparring but doesn't allow punches to the head, you're still compromising your effectiveness too much by teaching behavior literally contrary to how (nearly) anyone should fight--Hands up guarding your most vulnerable body part from the most common strike. When you think about it, quality self-defense teachings essentially follows the same philosophy as the Scientific Theory and the Scientific Method-- 1. Your "techniques" need to be falsifiable. This means your "deadly, one-hit kill" technique is almost definitely bunk because, since it's untestable, it's unfalsifiable, and there is no body of evidence to prove otherwise. 2. The technique should be provable in many different environments by many different users. 3. Those who would invent or develop new techniques first do the background research--This means learning and developing the necessary skills and physical requirements through training in already established techniques. 4. They formulate, either through observing the tendencies of opponents or the limitations of a current style, a hypothesis of a new technique to improve their skillset. 5. They first test the techniques in a controlled environment, experimenting with the various parameters such as angles, velocity, effort, footwork, positioning, leverage, ect. and observe the various results. If it's positive, it is incorporated into their skillset for competition. If it is neutral or negative, it might remain in development during training or discarded entirely. 6. Once fully developed, it is demonstrated to others in the most critiqued arena possible--Live competition. If a technique can pass this "peer review" it will be trained or developed further by other fighters. If it fails, then the foundations will be reworked or the failure will be remembered by other fighters as a learning experience. --- It feels like they're pretending. It's like they just want blowjobs and they know these songs will get them http://www.last.fm/user/Pogo92 <cite>Pogo_Marimo posted [p:921814524] in when no on... [t:77707450]...</cite> <quote><cite>soulunison2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pogo_Marimo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Guide posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SoraOwnsOctopus posted...</cite> <quote>What's the most useful fighting discipline for real world? Boxing? Judo? Karate? >_></quote> MMA or Combatives. I'd say Krav Maga, but if you're not learning that in a bombed-out building somewhere in East Asia, it's probably not the real thing. But boxing and judo are great against people with no experience. Karate is too, but there are so many fake schools.</quote> Pretty much this. The only "comprehensive" self-defense is proper MMA training, which will include Boxing, Kickboxing/Muay Thai, Freestyle Wrestling, BJJ, and maybe some Judo. Anything beyond that is frankly lacking in crucial areas, but you are still somewhat prepared if you train just Boxing/Kickboxing/Muay Thai, Wrestling, Judo, or BJJ with the caveat that the training features a LOT of direct sparring and a mindset for either professional competition or legitimate self-defense.</quote> I have my doubts on krav tho, it suffers the same thing most other mcdojo stuff suffers from in; a - people teach a bastardized version of it b - some moves can't be drilled in sparring</quote> Yeah. Same for TKD or Karate. They can absolutely be good, but it really comes down to the training methods and "mindset" more than anything. If, for instance, your TKD does live sparring but doesn't allow punches to the head, you're still compromising your effectiveness too much by teaching behavior literally contrary to how (nearly) anyone should fight--Hands up guarding your most vulnerable body part from the most common strike. When you think about it, quality self-defense teachings essentially follows the same philosophy as the Scientific Theory and the Scientific Method-- 1. Your "techniques" need to be falsifiable. This means your "deadly, one-hit kill" technique is almost definitely bunk because, since it's untestable, it's unfalsifiable, and there is no body of evidence to prove otherwise. 2. The technique should be provable in many different environments by many different users. 3. Those who would invent or develop new techniques first do the background research--This means learning and developing the necessary skills and physical requirements through training in already established techniques. 4. They formulate, either through observing the tendencies of opponents or the limitations of a current style, a hypothesis of a new technique to improve their skillset. 5. They first test the techniques in a controlled environment, experimenting with the various parameters such as angles, velocity, effort, footwork, positioning, leverage, ect. and observe the various results. If it's positive, it is incorporated into their skillset for competition. If it is neutral or negative, it might remain in development during training or discarded entirely. 6. Once fully developed, it is demonstrated to others in the most critiqued arena possible--Live competition. If a technique can pass this "peer review" it will be trained or developed further by other fighters. If it fails, then the foundations will be reworked or the failure will be remembered by other fighters as a learning experience.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 05/12/19 11:54:23 PM #60:	Pogo_Marimo posted... 1. Your "techniques" need to be falsifiable. This means your "deadly, one-hit kill" technique is almost definitely bunk because, since it's untestable, it's unfalsifiable, and there is no body of evidence to prove otherwise. I had to tear a guy's heart out Indiana Jones style to get my blue belt. --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://imgur.com/6ezFwG1 <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:921821949] in when no on... [t:77707450]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pogo_Marimo posted...</cite> <quote>1. Your "techniques" need to be falsifiable. This means your "deadly, one-hit kill" technique is almost definitely bunk because, since it's untestable, it's unfalsifiable, and there is no body of evidence to prove otherwise. </quote> I had to tear a guy's heart out Indiana Jones style to get my blue belt.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trigg3rH4ppy 05/13/19 12:00:06 AM #61:	I took some tang su do or something as a kid. I'd it basically the same thing? I remember it was real big on hip throws and shit. Our instructor taught as an illegal as hell jump kick that will easily break noses and potentially kill people but he warned us to never use it unless we intend to cripple someone in self defense. --- ~A little nonsense, now and then, is relished by the wisest men ~ TWSSted since~ 3/27/12 https://imgur.com/zlaENmx <cite>Trigg3rH4ppy posted [p:921822130] in when no on... [t:77707450]...</cite> <quote>I took some tang su do or something as a kid. I'd it basically the same thing? I remember it was real big on hip throws and shit. Our instructor taught as an illegal as hell jump kick that will easily break noses and potentially kill people but he warned us to never use it unless we intend to cripple someone in self defense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
soulunison2 05/13/19 12:21:29 AM #62:	Trigg3rH4ppy posted... I took some tang su do or something as a kid. I'd it basically the same thing? I remember it was real big on hip throws and shit. Our instructor taught as an illegal as hell jump kick that will easily break noses and potentially kill people but he warned us to never use it unless we intend to cripple someone in self defense. lmao shit like that is mcdojo selling 101 <cite>soulunison2 posted [p:921822763] in when no on... [t:77707450]...</cite> <quote><cite>Trigg3rH4ppy posted...</cite> <quote>I took some tang su do or something as a kid. I'd it basically the same thing? I remember it was real big on hip throws and shit. Our instructor taught as an illegal as hell jump kick that will easily break noses and potentially kill people but he warned us to never use it unless we intend to cripple someone in self defense.</quote> lmao shit like that is mcdojo selling 101</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 05/13/19 1:23:37 AM #63:	This would've never happened if they studied Rex Kwon Do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_W4Gi5h9P8" data-time=" --- It's not the size of the dog in the fight that matters, it's the size of the fight in the dog. <cite>brestugo posted [p:921824541] in when no on... [t:77707450]...</cite> <quote>This would've never happened if they studied Rex Kwon Do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_W4Gi5h9P8" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 05/13/19 4:31:00 PM #64:	The title itself had me chuckling. Its like when your IT department cant program --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:921846566] in when no on... [t:77707450]...</cite> <quote>The title itself had me chuckling. Its like when your IT department cant program</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wannabepranksta 05/13/19 5:22:09 PM #65:	Guide posted... SoraOwnsOctopus posted... What's the most useful fighting discipline for real world? Boxing? Judo? Karate? >_> MMA or Combatives. I'd say Krav Maga, but if you're not learning that in a bombed-out building somewhere in East Asia, it's probably not the real thing. But boxing and judo are great against people with no experience. Karate is too, but there are so many fake schools. Krav Maga is absolutely useless horseshit. I had a krav maga guy come at my gym thinking he was hot shit. He was 200+ lbs. and my teammates (a lot of whom were white belts in BJJ) and I took turns tapping him out. --- shut up and take my money <cite>wannabepranksta posted [p:921848646] in when no on... [t:77707450]...</cite> <quote><cite>Guide posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SoraOwnsOctopus posted...</cite> <quote>What's the most useful fighting discipline for real world? Boxing? Judo? Karate? >_></quote> MMA or Combatives. I'd say Krav Maga, but if you're not learning that in a bombed-out building somewhere in East Asia, it's probably not the real thing. But boxing and judo are great against people with no experience. Karate is too, but there are so many fake schools.</quote> Krav Maga is absolutely useless horseshit. I had a krav maga guy come at my gym thinking he was hot shit. He was 200+ lbs. and my teammates (a lot of whom were white belts in BJJ) and I took turns tapping him out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 05/13/19 5:29:35 PM #66:	kick boxing and traditional boxing did wonders for me in the streets and in school fights. it got to the point I didn't even have to fight at school anymore because everybody knew lol. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:921848938] in when no on... [t:77707450]...</cite> <quote>kick boxing and traditional boxing did wonders for me in the streets and in school fights. it got to the point I didn't even have to fight at school anymore because everybody knew lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
soulunison2 05/13/19 8:09:10 PM #67:	wannabepranksta posted... Guide posted... SoraOwnsOctopus posted... What's the most useful fighting discipline for real world? Boxing? Judo? Karate? >_> MMA or Combatives. I'd say Krav Maga, but if you're not learning that in a bombed-out building somewhere in East Asia, it's probably not the real thing. But boxing and judo are great against people with no experience. Karate is too, but there are so many fake schools. Krav Maga is absolutely useless horseshit. I had a krav maga guy come at my gym thinking he was hot shit. He was 200+ lbs. and my teammates (a lot of whom were white belts in BJJ) and I took turns tapping him out. Are you goggolor <cite>soulunison2 posted [p:921855032] in when no on... [t:77707450]...</cite> <quote><cite>wannabepranksta posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Guide posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SoraOwnsOctopus posted...</cite> <quote>What's the most useful fighting discipline for real world? Boxing? Judo? Karate? >_></quote> MMA or Combatives. I'd say Krav Maga, but if you're not learning that in a bombed-out building somewhere in East Asia, it's probably not the real thing. But boxing and judo are great against people with no experience. Karate is too, but there are so many fake schools.</quote> Krav Maga is absolutely useless horseshit. I had a krav maga guy come at my gym thinking he was hot shit. He was 200+ lbs. and my teammates (a lot of whom were white belts in BJJ) and I took turns tapping him out.</quote> Are you goggolor</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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