Current Events > Pearl Jam > Alice In Chains > Soundgarden > Nirvana

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Love them all, but still.
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I'd agree with Pearl Jam on top but don't know enough about other guys lol
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nirvana>alice in chains>soundgarden>>>>>pearl jam
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'Do the evolution' is pearl jam's best song imo
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How you gonna leave Stone Temple Pilots out of your grunge rankings?
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Soundgarden > STP > Alice in Chains > Nirvana > Pearl Jam

I do love them all though
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Is this the rankings for most unintelligible frontman?
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Pearl Jam loses its top spot for covering Last Kiss which is maybe the worst song ever written. Otherwise I agree with the lineup.
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radical rhino posted...

How you gonna leave Stone Temple Pilots out of your grunge rankings?

They aren't part of the big 4 and there's a lot of debate over whether they count as grunge

Also PJ is definitely the worst of the 4

AiC is the least important of the Big 5. And grunge isnt even a real genre.
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AiC was more important than STP. STP were good but they were like the outside the big 4 box band kinda like Exodus being outside the Thrash big 4.
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Tbh the only real reason people exclude STP is because they were from Cali instead of Seattle.
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I was listening to Ten a couple weeks ago
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STP is good, but if I were to include them I'd probably put them right under or tied with Nirvana.
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Nirvana>>>AIC>>>Soundgarden>>>STP>>>Pearl Jam
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__aCEr__ posted...

Is this the rankings for most unintelligible frontman?

Nirvana would be right behind Pearl Jam if that were the case.

s0nicfan posted...

Pearl Jam loses its top spot for covering Last Kiss which is maybe the worst song ever written. Otherwise I agree with the lineup.

Yeah, Last Kiss sucks ass.

Only "Pearl Jam Song" I don't like at all.
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Delirious_Beard posted...

nirvana>alice in chains>soundgarden>>>>>pearl jam

This. Fughawz lolz.
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1. Soundgarden - Chris Cornell had the best voice, not just grunge, but in all rock imo. He had tremendous range.

2. Nirvana - Even though I don't personally like them, they made the genre a household name and got the most playtime on MTV and radio over the other bands in the genre.

3. AiC - They had a natural grunge sound produced by Layne Staley's voice. The new incarnation of AiC is nowhere even close to the original sound.

4. Pearl Jam - IMO, the weakest of the big four for good reason. They were grunge up until Ten. After that, I feel that they lost their identity after they put out Vitalogy.
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I can't agree with Pearl Jam at #1...though it may be because my name is Jeremy and I've been questioned on what exactly I said in class today constantly for about 18 years now =P
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Best thing AiC ever did was their Unplugged IMO, a lot of the depth of the harmonies and interesting modal stuffs got lost in the grunginess on the album versions.
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PJ had ten, one great album. Wasn't that big a fan. Nirvana can be king since it started that whole grunge trend. AiC is great as well, great singer. Soundgarden can be third.

STP wasn't considered grunge at the time, I always find their stuff in the alternative rock sections. Corre was definitely a stab at grunge, but purple was just awesome album all around I played the hell out of the cassette back in the day.
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DirkDiggles posted...

1. Soundgarden - Chris Cornell had the best voice, not just grunge, but in all rock imo. He had tremendous range.

2. Nirvana - Even though I don't personally like them, they made the genre a household name and got the most playtime on MTV and radio over the other bands in the genre.

3. AiC - They had a natural grunge sound produced by Layne Staley's voice. The new incarnation of AiC is nowhere even close to the original sound.

4. Pearl Jam - IMO, the weakest of the big four for good reason. They were grunge up until Ten. After that, I feel that they lost their identity after they put out Vitalogy.

1. Agreed, on a technical level Cornell is almost unarguably one of the greatest singers ever, deserves way more credit.

2. I'd argue that while Nirvana may have popularized it, the genre would just straight up not exist if not for Cornell. Not only for Soundgarden, but Pearl Jam came together because of him, and he had huge influence on the rest of not only the Grunge genre, but rock as a whole.

3. Agreed, but honestly, new AiC honestly isn't bad, even if it is very different.

4. Ten, Vs., and Vitalogy all are indisputably grunge, and while they start to stray from it a bit later, it's undeniably still a huge part of their sound in Yield, No Code, Riot Act, etc. It's only really Backspacer and Lightning Bolt that just straight up ditches their grunge routes.
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sevihaimerej posted...

I can't agree with Pearl Jam at #1...though it may be because my name is Jeremy and I've been questioned on what exactly I said in class today constantly for about 18 years now =P

lol, honestly, that's fair.

KillerKhan420 posted...

PJ had ten, one great album. Wasn't that big a fan. Nirvana can be king since it started that whole grunge trend. AiC is great as well, great singer. Soundgarden can be third.

STP wasn't considered grunge at the time, I always find their stuff in the alternative rock sections. Corre was definitely a stab at grunge, but purple was just awesome album all around I played the hell out of the cassette back in the day.

Ten, Vs. and Vitalogy are all amazing albums. None of the rest after quite get as amazing as those 3 admittedly, but there's still some masterpieces scattered on the rest of them, especially Yield and Riot Act. No Code's got some gems too.

I'd also argue that just because Nirvana popularized grunge, doesn't make them the best grunge band. Avatar (was) the highest grossing film of all time, but no one says it's a better movie than say, Schindler's List or Citizen Kane.

Grunge fans are what killed Grunge tbh. By limiting it to "Oh, they have to be from Seattle, they have to have ____, and ____, and ____", and then ruling out other bands like Bush, Seven Mary Three, Candlebox, etc. for various inane reasons, they ensured that the genre couldn't grow. That applies heavily to STP as well; no one argues that musically they're in the same ballpark as the big 4, but because they're Cali, they get written off.
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I dont think grunge as a genre ever really existed except in the minds of record labels trying to cash in on the success of Nevermind by dressing up bands with a remotely similar sound in flannel shirts, much like The Libertines were fuck all like The Strokes but the A&R decided to put them in leather jackets to jump on that whole fad.

Nirvana really belonged to of a group of bands that grew from the hardcore scene of the 80s and worshipped Black Flags My War, spearheaded by bands like Melvins, whereas Eddie Vedder couldnt even spell Fugazi.
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Damn I wish Soundgarden had never broken up but so fuckin thankful I saw them before that happened.

With me it's all just one tie. Some days I like Nirvana better, some days I like Soundgarden better. Some days I just wanna listen to Alice in chains and I'll never turn away a pearl jam song.
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A&Rs are bad for music. great for the industry, but the industry only cares about revenue. they are killers of creativity and culture, though.
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Pearl Jam is the worst band on that list by far. Id respect literally any other order lol
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Idk PJ has the best grunge album but after that...
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Feline_Heart posted...

Pearl Jam is the worst band on that list by far. Id respect literally any other order lol

Nah, Pearl Jam's amazing.
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For me its:
1. Soundgarden
2. Alice in Chains
3. Pearl Jam
4. Nirvana

But I need to get more PJ albums.
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Pearl Jam's true strength is in their live stuff. Their studio stuff is kinda weak outside of Ten, Vs., and Vitalogy.
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Bush gets way too bad of a rap tbh.
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Motley Crue, Def Leppard, Dokken and W.A.S.P. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all those shitty bands
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Delirious_Beard posted...

nirvana>alice in chains>soundgarden>>>>>pearl jam

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Oof. Pearl Jam too high

Audioslave > Soudgarden >>> the rest
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Audioslave is pretty good though tbh, but definitely not over any of the 4 listed in the OP.
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MarshallStack posted...

Motley Crue, Def Leppard, Dokken and W.A.S.P. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all those shitty bands

Montley crue? My God that's some bad stuff. Def leappard imo was the best hair band of the 80s, don't know dokken but I know of W.A.S.P and yeah, they're great as well. Replace crue with whitesnake or great white and we'll be ok...
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Needs a poll
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alice > nirvana > soundgarden > pearl jam
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Audioslave > Pearl Jam > Nirvana > Soundgarden >>> Alice In Chains
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Audioslave fucks with me because I listened to the CD on a car trip, in the back seat, back from Virginia Tech at like 2 am and I was not right, I swear to this day they had Like a Stone on repeat because I swear the song never stopped. So towards the end of the song when they go into that crazy whatever solo with that sound, it just takes me back to my head spinning.

Audioslave, if they had longevity would be easily #1 for me but no way in hell would I replace Soundgarden or Rage with just audioslave.
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

Audioslave fucks with me because I listened to the CD on a car trip, in the back seat, back from Virginia Tech at like 2 am and I was not right, I swear to this day they had Like a Stone on repeat because I swear the song never stopped. So towards the end of the song when they go into that crazy whatever solo with that sound, it just takes me back to my head spinning.

Audioslave, if they had longevity would be easily #1 for me but no way in hell would I replace Soundgarden or Rage with just audioslave.

First time I fully listened to that album (I loved I Am the Highway and Like A Stone but hadn't really listened to the rest) was on an acid trip (first time as well). Think I listened to that album like a half dozen times that night. Was completely entranced by it. Those 2 songs plus Shadow of the Sun are IMO the best songs Cornell has ever made.
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