Current Events > The Switch is living off ports right now

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Not a fan. Nintendo is doing the exact opposite of what they did with the Wii U, and contrary to popular belief, some great decisions were made with the Wii U and they're completely throwing them to the wind.
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Ports of good games that nobody played because the Wii U was fucking trash.
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Let's be honest here

Nintendo are doing everything they can to distract from the fact that the Switch is about as powerful as a last generation console. In some respects less powerful. That's why they're releasing all these AAA ports from last gen because it seems impressive, when really the Switch is so much better suited to side scrolling platform games.

That's another point too. Handheld gaming on a screen slightly bigger than your average smartphone just doesn't really lend itself to in depth 3D games that well. Thats why there are so many sidescrollers.
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Smashingpmkns posted...

Ports of good games that nobody played because the Wii U was fucking trash.

This

pinky0926 posted...

That's another point too. Handheld gaming on a screen slightly bigger than your average smartphone just doesn't really lend itself to in depth 3D games that well. Thats why there are so many sidescrollers

And this is cool by me, it is a very nice change of pace
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pinky0926 posted...

Let's be honest here

Nintendo are doing everything they can to distract from the fact that the Switch is about as powerful as a last generation console. In some respects less powerful. That's why they're releasing all these AAA ports from last gen because it seems impressive, when really the Switch is so much better suited to side scrolling platform games.

That's another point too. Handheld gaming on a screen slightly bigger than your average smartphone just doesn't really lend itself to in depth 3D games that well. Thats why there are so many sidescrollers.

BotW and Odyssey both look amazing undocked. They're most likely rereleasing AAA Wii U ports because it's easy money and most Switch owners didnt play those games...
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Smashingpmkns posted...

BotW and Odyssey both look amazing undocked. They're most likely rereleasing AAA Wii U ports because it's easy money and most Switch owners didnt play those games...

Yep, but then look at Skyrim and Dark Souls. Doesn't quite work as well.
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Yeah, because Super Mario Party, Smash Bros Ultimate, Kirby Star Allies, Mario Rabbids Kingdom Battle, Mario Odyssey, Mario Tennis Aces were all Wii-U titles.

Get your head out of your ass
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pinky0926 posted...

Smashingpmkns posted...

BotW and Odyssey both look amazing undocked. They're most likely rereleasing AAA Wii U ports because it's easy money and most Switch owners didnt play those games...

Yep, but then look at Skyrim and Dark Souls. Doesn't quite work as well.

That probably has more to do with lazy porting. Look at Doom 2016. that game looks surprisingly great on Switch.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

Yeah, because Super Mario Party, Smash Bros Ultimate, Kirby Star Allies, Mario Rabbids Kingdom Battle, Mario Odyssey, Mario Tennis Aces were all Wii-U titles.

Get your head out of your ass

There's going to be someone who will erroneously claim Smash Ultimate and Mario Tennis Aces are "enhanced ports" of the Wii U versions.
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They need to port the entire WiiU library so they can fully phase out it's existence. Also the DS/3DS library too, to make up for those systems' lack of TV support.

Smashingpmkns posted...

pinky0926 posted...

Smashingpmkns posted...

BotW and Odyssey both look amazing undocked. They're most likely rereleasing AAA Wii U ports because it's easy money and most Switch owners didnt play those games...

Yep, but then look at Skyrim and Dark Souls. Doesn't quite work as well.

That probably has more to do with lazy porting. Look at Doom 2016. that game looks surprisingly great on Switch.

Skyrim looks pretty good on a switch, the issue I have is just that it's way too much to look at on a 6-inch screen.

I think Odyssey and BOTW worked so well because of the simpler art style and blockier colours.

I can't speak for Doom because I haven't played it, but if I was I'd still get it on PC.
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Raikuro posted...

They need to port the entire WiiU library so they can fully phase out it's existence. Also the DS/3DS library too, to make up for those systems' lack of TV support.

Tbh they just need Xenoblade X and TMS and I'd be good.

Throw in an HD remaster of the Prime Trilogy as well.
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Smash literally just came out
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A last generation console would mean something like ps3, which looks fine considering there's like 0 jump between ps4 and ps3, this gen and last gen, besides the fact that this gen has all the bad stuff of last gen times a million. But besides that I don't see how being last gen is a bad thing. Hell if it didn't have online (the bane of the video game industry, bring literally no good and all bad with dlc and micro whatevers and crap) it would be a perfect video game console (instead of that "multimedia entertainment system" crap the other two are doing)

And isn't the Switch basically just the Wii? It seems to be following the exact same pattern; huge initial success with lots of people buying it, Nintendo releasing all their heavy hitting first party titles within the first year like marios and zeldas and smash, etc. Only time will tell if it will have anything even resembling 3rd party support, be it ports or otherwise.

And I was moderately excited for the idea of trying a grandia 2 update on switch, having only played the just ok first one.
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pinky0926 posted...

Let's be honest here

Nintendo are doing everything they can to distract from the fact that the Switch is about as powerful as a last generation console. In some respects less powerful. That's why they're releasing all these AAA ports from last gen because it seems impressive, when really the Switch is so much better suited to side scrolling platform games.

That's another point too. Handheld gaming on a screen slightly bigger than your average smartphone just doesn't really lend itself to in depth 3D games that well. Thats why there are so many sidescrollers.

The switch handled DOOM and The newest wolfenstein game (albeit poorly) and will have the next MK.

The ps3 had trouble handling mk3 and it got cancelled.

The switch is weak but its no sub-ps3 system come one

Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

Yeah, because Super Mario Party, Smash Bros Ultimate, Kirby Star Allies, Mario Rabbids Kingdom Battle, Mario Odyssey, Mario Tennis Aces were all Wii-U titles.

Get your head out of your ass

Wow, 7 whole games that aren't ports.
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Baby_Shark posted...

pinky0926 posted...

Let's be honest here

Nintendo are doing everything they can to distract from the fact that the Switch is about as powerful as a last generation console. In some respects less powerful. That's why they're releasing all these AAA ports from last gen because it seems impressive, when really the Switch is so much better suited to side scrolling platform games.

That's another point too. Handheld gaming on a screen slightly bigger than your average smartphone just doesn't really lend itself to in depth 3D games that well. Thats why there are so many sidescrollers.

The switch handled DOOM and The newest wolfenstein game (albeit poorly) and will have the next MK.

The ps3 had trouble handling mk3 and it got cancelled.

The switch is weak but its no sub-ps3 system come one

Correct me if I'm wrong but every switch port has been massively nerfed to make it playable.

Doom textures on Switch are scaled down incredibly and the framerate sticks at 30fps. Pretty sure the switch struggles with framerate across all of its games, which is why the dark souls port was delayed.

Hell there's a section in breath of the wild where you get like 10FPS just looking around.
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It's almost like a console less than two years old hasn't had enough time for post-launch game development to finish.
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Garioshi posted...

Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

Yeah, because Super Mario Party, Smash Bros Ultimate, Kirby Star Allies, Mario Rabbids Kingdom Battle, Mario Odyssey, Mario Tennis Aces were all Wii-U titles.

Get your head out of your ass

Wow, 7 whole games that aren't ports.

There's also Xenoblade 2, Let's Go, Bomberman R, Splatoon 2, Octopath
Upcoming Prime 4,Bayo 3, NMH, Animal Crossing, and Pokemon 2019
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remember ps4 when it first came out? 90% ps3 remasters and 10% KNACK
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TheBlueMonk_ posted...

remember ps4 when it first came out? 90% ps3 remasters and 10% KNACK

then we got KNACK 2 BABY!
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wackyteen posted...

TheBlueMonk_ posted...

remember ps4 when it first came out? 90% ps3 remasters and 10% KNACK

then we got KNACK 2 BABY!

Knack 2 is actually pretty good
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pinky0926 posted...

Nintendo are doing everything they can to distract from the fact that the Switch is about as powerful as a last generation console. In some respects less powerful. That's why they're releasing all these AAA ports from last gen because it seems impressive, when really the Switch is so much better suited to side scrolling platform games.

Power is irrelevant though. It has enough.

pinky0926 posted...

Baby_Shark posted...

pinky0926 posted...

Let's be honest here

Nintendo are doing everything they can to distract from the fact that the Switch is about as powerful as a last generation console. In some respects less powerful. That's why they're releasing all these AAA ports from last gen because it seems impressive, when really the Switch is so much better suited to side scrolling platform games.

That's another point too. Handheld gaming on a screen slightly bigger than your average smartphone just doesn't really lend itself to in depth 3D games that well. Thats why there are so many sidescrollers.

The switch handled DOOM and The newest wolfenstein game (albeit poorly) and will have the next MK.

The ps3 had trouble handling mk3 and it got cancelled.

The switch is weak but its no sub-ps3 system come one

Correct me if I'm wrong but every switch port has been massively nerfed to make it playable.

Doom textures on Switch are scaled down incredibly and the framerate sticks at 30fps. Pretty sure the switch struggles with framerate across all of its games, which is why the dark souls port was delayed.

Hell there's a section in breath of the wild where you get like 10FPS just looking around.

Youre right.

But its still not sub-ps3

Darklit_Minuet posted...

pinky0926 posted...

Nintendo are doing everything they can to distract from the fact that the Switch is about as powerful as a last generation console. In some respects less powerful. That's why they're releasing all these AAA ports from last gen because it seems impressive, when really the Switch is so much better suited to side scrolling platform games.

Power is irrelevant though. It has enough.

This used to not be true, but due to diminishing returns with visuals, it's starting to favor Nintendo's approach.
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Doesn't bother me one bit. Never had a wii or wii U so it's all new to me and I can take them on the go.
I've got
Zelda
Civ 6
Mutant Football league
Smash bros
Mario kart 8

I've enjoyed all of the..
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pinky0926 posted...

Baby_Shark posted...

pinky0926 posted...

Let's be honest here

Nintendo are doing everything they can to distract from the fact that the Switch is about as powerful as a last generation console. In some respects less powerful. That's why they're releasing all these AAA ports from last gen because it seems impressive, when really the Switch is so much better suited to side scrolling platform games.

That's another point too. Handheld gaming on a screen slightly bigger than your average smartphone just doesn't really lend itself to in depth 3D games that well. Thats why there are so many sidescrollers.

The switch handled DOOM and The newest wolfenstein game (albeit poorly) and will have the next MK.

The ps3 had trouble handling mk3 and it got cancelled.

The switch is weak but its no sub-ps3 system come one

Correct me if I'm wrong but every switch port has been massively nerfed to make it playable.

Doom textures on Switch are scaled down incredibly and the framerate sticks at 30fps. Pretty sure the switch struggles with framerate across all of its games, which is why the dark souls port was delayed.

Hell there's a section in breath of the wild where you get like 10FPS just looking around.

No one expected what is basically a tablet to run games at 60 FPS with Xbox One graphics. Most console games this gen cant even manage a consistent 30 FPS, let alone 60 FPS, without buying the X or the Pro.

I think you're really overstating how "bad" these games look. And Dark Souls has had bad framerate issues across the board lol
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DarkRoast posted...

Darklit_Minuet posted...

pinky0926 posted...

Nintendo are doing everything they can to distract from the fact that the Switch is about as powerful as a last generation console. In some respects less powerful. That's why they're releasing all these AAA ports from last gen because it seems impressive, when really the Switch is so much better suited to side scrolling platform games.

Power is irrelevant though. It has enough.

This used to not be true, but due to diminishing returns with visuals, it's starting to favor Nintendo's approach.

Was it ever true though?

Nintendo's handhelds have always been a generation behind in terms of power and visuals, yet they've always had better libraries than their consoles. The DS and 3DS are probably the best consoles since the PS2 in terms of how great their libraries are, and they sure as hell weren't as powerful as the consoles of their eras.

The Switch is another in a long line of successful Nintendo handhelds with amazing libraries. And like its predecessors in the DS/3DS line, it's going to keep printing money for many years

Nintendo was in the cutting edge with the SNES and N64 and GameCube (until the Xbox came out later, which was kind of cheating, still the highest polygon count game in that gen was a GC game).

It all changed with the wii

Smashingpmkns posted...

No one expected what is basically a tablet to run games at 60 FPS with Xbox One graphics. Most console games this gen cant even manage a consistent 30 FPS, let alone 60 FPS, without buying the X or the Pro.

I think you're really overstating how "bad" these games look. And Dark Souls has had bad framerate issues across the board lol

Don't get me wrong, I seriously love my switch. I just have some misgivings about its future with big titles because it's already struggling to run games made several years ago, plus those big titles seem a little silly on such a small screen.

I most enjoy stardew valley and hollow knight on the switch, not the immersive games so much.
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Baby_Shark posted...

Nintendo was in the cutting edge with the SNES and N64 and GameCube (until the Xbox came out later, which was kind of cheating, still the highest polygon count game in that gen was a GC game).

It all changed with the wii

I guess they realized being on the cutting edge of graphics wasn't profitable for them.

I kinda like their new approach. Makes them stand out from other consoles. Of course, it kinda hurts third-party support, but most Nintendo fans just buy Nintendo games anyway. Switch is one of their best ideas, it's what the Wii U should've been.
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