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Vol2tex
12/28/18 12:43:37 PM
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CableZL
12/28/18 12:44:19 PM
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EvalAngell
12/28/18 12:46:30 PM
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CableZL posted...
I lost interest after The Rock left.


he's rumored to have a match at wrestlemania
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50Blessings
12/28/18 12:47:05 PM
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Good it's sucked for like 16 years now
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TheCurseX2
12/28/18 12:48:19 PM
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I like how the modern viewers whine and bitch when WWE has to constantly make emergency calls to older, proven draws like Undertaker and HBK because their current crop of talent are overly complacent acrobats that fucking suck.
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C_Pain
12/28/18 12:49:37 PM
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It's still a million dollar company with no end in sight.
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D-Lo_BrownTown
12/28/18 12:52:13 PM
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Maybe they should hire entertaining wrestlers instead of failed actors like the Miz who just want a foot into movies and TV shows.

Also stop with the fake over production and every move being some unrealistic acrobatic shit.
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SpiralDrift
12/28/18 12:54:00 PM
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This is what happens when you get 20 soylets to script every single word of the promos behind closed doors in a comfy room with donuts.
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V-E-G-Y-
12/28/18 12:54:11 PM
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It started dying once da late great Viva la RAZA Eddie Guerrero passed away
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ghettoraider81
12/28/18 12:54:12 PM
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
Maybe they should hire entertaining wrestlers instead of failed actors like the Miz who just want a foot into movies and TV shows.

Also stop with the fake over production and every move being some unrealistic acrobatic shit.


Miz is one of the best on the roster.
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D-Lo_BrownTown
12/28/18 12:55:04 PM
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ghettoraider81 posted...
D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
Maybe they should hire entertaining wrestlers instead of failed actors like the Miz who just want a foot into movies and TV shows.

Also stop with the fake over production and every move being some unrealistic acrobatic shit.


Miz is one of the best on the roster.


He is everything wrong with modern wrestling.
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Jagr_68
12/28/18 12:57:20 PM
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TheCurseX2 posted...
I like how the modern viewers whine and bitch when WWE has to constantly make emergency calls to older, proven draws like Undertaker and HBK because their current crop of talent are overly complacent acrobats that fucking suck.


Cashing in on nostalgia is the big thing in movies/tv these days >___>

Also, I'm pretty sure Undertaker is literally going to die on RAW one of these days.
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Touch
12/28/18 12:58:33 PM
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SpiralDrift
12/28/18 1:01:16 PM
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Cashing in on nostalgia has always been a thing in pro wrestling. It's just worse now because there's no way the current talent can compete with the ones from literally the greatest era in pro wrestling history.
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The-Apostle
12/28/18 1:02:41 PM
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It started dieing when the Monday Night Wars ended.
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EvalAngell
12/28/18 1:08:29 PM
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
Maybe they should hire entertaining wrestlers instead of failed actors like the Miz who just want a foot into movies and TV shows.


r u serious

Miz is one of the best wrestlers on the current roster fam
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D-Lo_BrownTown
12/28/18 1:14:01 PM
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EvalAngell posted...
D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
Maybe they should hire entertaining wrestlers instead of failed actors like the Miz who just want a foot into movies and TV shows.


r u serious

Miz is one of the best wrestlers on the current roster fam


That says it all

Failed actor using wrestling to get roles and reality shows
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Anti-245
12/28/18 1:19:13 PM
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
EvalAngell posted...
D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
Maybe they should hire entertaining wrestlers instead of failed actors like the Miz who just want a foot into movies and TV shows.


r u serious

Miz is one of the best wrestlers on the current roster fam


That says it all

Failed actor using wrestling to get roles and reality shows

It's worse than that cuz miz used hip hop to get himself over,much like Cena, and when he didn't need it anymore, he kicked it to the curb.
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50Blessings
12/28/18 1:20:22 PM
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Every time I watch it's just so cringe

You can tell they got nerds writing the shit cause somehow all those huge dudes come off as internet weirdos
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Tsukasa1891
12/28/18 1:24:06 PM
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The-Apostle posted...
It started dieing when the Monday Night Wars ended.

I remember the night Vince came out and started bragging about how he bought out WCW. I thought this was the best thing to happen for the company. Looking back, it was the worst thing to happen for the company.
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NinjaWarrior455
12/28/18 1:29:52 PM
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Tsukasa1891 posted...
The-Apostle posted...
It started dieing when the Monday Night Wars ended.

I remember the night Vince came out and started bragging about how he bought out WCW. I thought this was the best thing to happen for the company. Looking back, it was the worst thing to happen for the company.

It was the best thing to happen for the company. It was just the worst thing to happen for the fans of the company.
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TheCurseX2
12/28/18 1:58:28 PM
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Jagr_68 posted...
TheCurseX2 posted...
I like how the modern viewers whine and bitch when WWE has to constantly make emergency calls to older, proven draws like Undertaker and HBK because their current crop of talent are overly complacent acrobats that fucking suck.


Cashing in on nostalgia is the big thing in movies/tv these days >___>

Also, I'm pretty sure Undertaker is literally going to die on RAW one of these days.


This isn't nostalgia, they are still better wrestlers than the current crop today.

Never before in the history of wrestling did they need to call in veterans to save ratings like they do now. Did Austin and Rock need guys from the '80s and early '90s to generate interest in their PPVs? No. Because they were good, the current day sucks.
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0TiamaT0
12/28/18 2:15:05 PM
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This is what happens when you only push one man as a main eventer. Or when you bring in part-timers to go over the full-time talent.

Can you imagine if they used this kind of logic when they were getting murdered by WCW...

Talk about your psalms - talk about John 3:16. Austin 3:16 says sufferin suckatash!

You dont need to turn heel and join The Nation, Rocky. Just keep smiling.
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Philoktetes
12/28/18 2:15:29 PM
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wrestling is fake
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Skywalker82
12/28/18 2:17:48 PM
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WWE has been hurting without

Roman Reigns
Braun Strowman
John Cena
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SpiralDrift
12/28/18 2:21:07 PM
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Apparently the boring promos where they just stand around calmly speaking to each other draws higher ratings than the matches. So in their minds they probably think it's what's best for business. Obviously it's done some damage in the long-term, though.

It's like how all the old school guys say not to hotshot for too long and that you need to pull back and get a little average sometimes. That whole process has basically played out with the extended promos. They get a slight ratings boost from them but they don't know when to pull back, so it just gets old and people stop watching. But at this point it's basically all they have left ratings-wise.
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KillerKhan420
12/28/18 2:21:26 PM
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They made millions going to Saudi Arabia a few times, and it's very telling they even went there in the first place.

They're hurting pretty bad here. Wrestling is back to where it was in the early 90s.
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dummy420
12/28/18 2:24:58 PM
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Havent watched since maybe 01 or 02 but the attitude era is the only thing that was interesting.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
12/28/18 2:27:10 PM
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Meanwhile NXT and Smackdown are constantly great.
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The-Apostle
12/28/18 2:33:35 PM
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NinjaWarrior455 posted...
Tsukasa1891 posted...
The-Apostle posted...
It started dieing when the Monday Night Wars ended.

I remember the night Vince came out and started bragging about how he bought out WCW. I thought this was the best thing to happen for the company. Looking back, it was the worst thing to happen for the company.

It was the best thing to happen for the company. It was just the worst thing to happen for the fans of the company.

I agree.
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PokemonExpert44
12/28/18 2:36:47 PM
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WWE forever
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SauI_Goodman
12/28/18 2:36:50 PM
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The-Apostle posted...
NinjaWarrior455 posted...
Tsukasa1891 posted...
The-Apostle posted...
It started dieing when the Monday Night Wars ended.

I remember the night Vince came out and started bragging about how he bought out WCW. I thought this was the best thing to happen for the company. Looking back, it was the worst thing to happen for the company.

It was the best thing to happen for the company. It was just the worst thing to happen for the fans of the company.

I agree.


It was the best thing for Vince. It was the worst thing for pro wrestling. Competition makes everybody better. Think about how great the monday night wars were. They pushed each other and brought out the best in one another. Now, Vince doesn't even try. Nor does he have to.
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The-Apostle
12/28/18 3:38:46 PM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
The-Apostle posted...
NinjaWarrior455 posted...
Tsukasa1891 posted...
The-Apostle posted...
It started dieing when the Monday Night Wars ended.

I remember the night Vince came out and started bragging about how he bought out WCW. I thought this was the best thing to happen for the company. Looking back, it was the worst thing to happen for the company.

It was the best thing to happen for the company. It was just the worst thing to happen for the fans of the company.

I agree.


It was the best thing for Vince. It was the worst thing for pro wrestling. Competition makes everybody better. Think about how great the monday night wars were. They pushed each other and brought out the best in one another. Now, Vince doesn't even try. Nor does he have to.


This is exactly why Vince buying WCW is so unbelievably irritating.
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Markingham
12/28/18 3:41:32 PM
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its fake kids shit thats on in the wrong timeslot, kids dont stay up until midnight
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The-Apostle
12/28/18 4:03:28 PM
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Markingham posted...
its fake kids shit thats on in the wrong timeslot, kids dont stay up until midnight

Yeah, I'd prefer 8-10 as well. 6-8 on the west coast so I can watch live.
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Sada_Pop
12/28/18 4:17:37 PM
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WWE makes emergency calls to older talent because *gasp* they can't book newer talent for shit, and the Roman Reigns project isn't bringing in the money they absurdly expect to make


@Conflict

Well yeah Reigns is one dude and there's no way they expected one dude to bring in that much more than anyone else.

Even then they got a couple of billion people dollar TV deals even with the crappy ratings.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
12/28/18 4:19:30 PM
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It does seem like they are gonna push Balor again, McIntyre has looked great, Rollins likely moving into the main event picture again, Kevin Owens is coming back soon too.
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darkprince45
12/28/18 4:22:28 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
It does seem like they are gonna push Balor again, McIntyre has looked great, Rollins likely moving into the main event picture again, Kevin Owens is coming back soon too.

4 plain generic looking white dudes. Great. They all look like CAWS from svr
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SpiralDrift
12/28/18 4:22:51 PM
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The WCW thing is a little misunderstood. That company was going to fail regardless, and due to the way the talent was contracted it wasn't even an option for the WWF to bring most of them in. The only thing they can really be faulted for is not continuing the WCW brand. And I guess jobbing everyone out.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
12/28/18 4:23:55 PM
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darkprince45 posted...
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
It does seem like they are gonna push Balor again, McIntyre has looked great, Rollins likely moving into the main event picture again, Kevin Owens is coming back soon too.

4 plain generic looking white dudes. Great. They all look like CAWS from svr


You don't like good wrestlers? Go watch early 90's WWF and see Hogan take on Ultimate Warrior in a match of who does the most steroids.
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EvalAngell
12/28/18 5:00:35 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
darkprince45 posted...
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
It does seem like they are gonna push Balor again, McIntyre has looked great, Rollins likely moving into the main event picture again, Kevin Owens is coming back soon too.

4 plain generic looking white dudes. Great. They all look like CAWS from svr


You don't like good wrestlers? Go watch early 90's WWF and see Hogan take on Ultimate Warrior in a match of who does the most steroids.


lol say what you want about it but at least wrestling featured actual "caricatures" back then. Hogan and Warrior came across as superheroes. And when they wrestled it actually felt epic. Nobody gives a shit about these indy darlings with their greasy long hair and long beards. Owens wrestles in a T-shirt for fucks sake.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
12/28/18 5:11:44 PM
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I care about good wrestling. Part of that is character sure, but the veil has been lifted off wrestling now. I'd rather see a good product over building a character into a mythological figure.

Brock Lesnar is a legit fucking beast, not the best wrestler anymore though.
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Vol2tex
12/28/18 5:29:31 PM
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SpiralDrift posted...
The WCW thing is a little misunderstood. That company was going to fail regardless, and due to the way the talent was contracted it wasn't even an option for the WWF to bring most of them in. The only thing they can really be faulted for is not continuing the WCW brand. And I guess jobbing everyone out.


Why did the Invasion have to be done immediately? If they waited until early 2002, they would have had Flair, Hogan, Hall, Nash to participate. Sting might have joined since Booker T wouldn't have been made a fool. Too lazy to look up the Goldberg and Steiner's contracts but they might have been available by then too. I definitely remember some Time Warner contracts expiring 12/31/2001.
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darkprince45
12/28/18 5:55:50 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
I care about good wrestling. Part of that is character sure, but the veil has been lifted off wrestling now. I'd rather see a good product over building a character into a mythological figure.

Brock Lesnar is a legit fucking beast, not the best wrestler anymore though.

And thats why ratings are down lol. People dont want to generic looking dudes who can wrestle better. People want to see personalities put on good shows
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KillerKhan420
12/28/18 6:41:39 PM
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EvalAngell posted...
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
darkprince45 posted...
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
It does seem like they are gonna push Balor again, McIntyre has looked great, Rollins likely moving into the main event picture again, Kevin Owens is coming back soon too.

4 plain generic looking white dudes. Great. They all look like CAWS from svr


You don't like good wrestlers? Go watch early 90's WWF and see Hogan take on Ultimate Warrior in a match of who does the most steroids.


lol say what you want about it but at least wrestling featured actual "caricatures" back then. Hogan and Warrior came across as superheroes. And when they wrestled it actually felt epic. Nobody gives a shit about these indy darlings with their greasy long hair and long beards. Owens wrestles in a T-shirt for fucks sake.


What he says is the truth, Hogan, macho Man, ultimate warrior, Mr perfect and the million dollar man were all big time characters for the wwf. Yeah sure, looking back on it with modern eyes and it's not great in ring wise, but you didn't need that in an era where a bodyslam was a high impact maneuver.
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1NfamousACE_2
12/28/18 6:44:45 PM
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They need a full time champion
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Skywalker82
12/28/18 9:29:21 PM
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I don't believe the problem with the wrestlers is their look. Their talking skills are what is lacking. Most of the roster is full of millenniums who are more introverted and aren't that good with connecting with the crowd.

WWE is also to blame since they don't give many people a chance to be good on the mic. Kevin Owens is one of the better people on the mic. You guys also mentioned The Miz and he is one of good people.
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