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ChainedRedone 12/27/18 1:54:57 PM #1:	Fact --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:914780963] in Sopranos i... [t:77338314]...</cite> <quote>Fact</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
a-c-a-b 12/27/18 1:58:23 PM #2:	Is it on any of the streaming services? I haven't watched it since it originally aired. --- Save for your doomed future <cite>a-c-a-b posted [p:914781149] in Sopranos i... [t:77338314]...</cite> <quote>Is it on any of the streaming services? I haven't watched it since it originally aired.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Romulox28 12/27/18 2:02:55 PM #4:	honestly i think it might be the greatest TV drama of all time. i cant think of a more well-developed & complex character than Tony Soprano --- https://imgur.com/LhwwG <cite>Romulox28 posted [p:914781377] in Sopranos i... [t:77338314]...</cite> <quote>honestly i think it might be the greatest TV drama of all time. i cant think of a more well-developed & complex character than Tony Soprano</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 12/27/18 2:05:49 PM #5:	a-c-a-b posted... Is it on any of the streaming services? I haven't watched it since it originally aired. HBOGo Or whatever HBO's streaming service is called. GregShmedley posted... What are your other two? Breaking Bad for sure. Not sure about the other one. Perhaps Mad Men. --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:914781519] in Sopranos i... [t:77338314]...</cite> <quote><cite>a-c-a-b posted...</cite> <quote>Is it on any of the streaming services? I haven't watched it since it originally aired.</quote> HBOGo Or whatever HBO's streaming service is called. <cite>GregShmedley posted...</cite> <quote>What are your other two?</quote> Breaking Bad for sure. Not sure about the other one. Perhaps Mad Men.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HagenEx 12/27/18 2:07:43 PM #6:	The Wire The Shield The Sopranos Top 3. --- Not changing this sig until The Big Dawg Roman Reigns beats cancer and wins back the Universal Title. Belee Dat! <cite>HagenEx posted [p:914781612] in Sopranos i... [t:77338314]...</cite> <quote>The Wire The Shield The Sopranos Top 3.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fan357 12/27/18 2:09:08 PM #7:	Twenty years! --- Never forget where you came from. <cite>fan357 posted [p:914781674] in Sopranos i... [t:77338314]...</cite> <quote>Twenty years!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GameGodOfAll 12/27/18 2:11:22 PM #8:	Top 10 for sure. Probably not top 5 though. At its peak it is one of the best, but the later seasons had problems. Not show ruining problems, but there were dips in quality here and there. Breaking Bad The Wire Better Call Saul Mad Men Those are all up there. --- My Words Were True And Sheamus Made You Believe! https://imgur.com/Fc39f <cite>GameGodOfAll posted [p:914781773] in Sopranos i... [t:77338314]...</cite> <quote>Top 10 for sure. Probably not top 5 though. At its peak it is one of the best, but the later seasons had problems. Not show ruining problems, but there were dips in quality here and there. Breaking Bad The Wire Better Call Saul Mad Men Those are all up there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 12/27/18 2:12:41 PM #9:	GameGodOfAll posted... Top 10 for sure. Probably not top 5 though. At its peak it is one of the best, but the later seasons had problems. Not show ruining problems, but there were dips in quality here and there. Breaking Bad The Wire Better Call Saul Mad Men Those are all up there. Joke post. You're probably one of the donkeys that constantly complained about the ending. --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:914781833] in Sopranos i... [t:77338314]...</cite> <quote><cite>GameGodOfAll posted...</cite> <quote>Top 10 for sure. Probably not top 5 though. At its peak it is one of the best, but the later seasons had problems. Not show ruining problems, but there were dips in quality here and there. Breaking Bad The Wire Better Call Saul Mad Men Those are all up there.</quote> Joke post. You're probably one of the donkeys that constantly complained about the ending.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GameGodOfAll 12/27/18 2:27:02 PM #11:	ChainedRedone posted... GameGodOfAll posted... Top 10 for sure. Probably not top 5 though. At its peak it is one of the best, but the later seasons had problems. Not show ruining problems, but there were dips in quality here and there. Breaking Bad The Wire Better Call Saul Mad Men Those are all up there. Joke post. You're probably one of the donkeys that constantly complained about the ending. Nope loved the ending. Loved the whole show and just rewatched it for the 6th or 7th time earlier this year. Don't want to get all negative on it (top 10 is still amazing), but there were a handful of not very good episodes such as the dream one with Tony B, or the one about Columbus Day. But for every meh episode there are at least 3 great ones. The first dream heavy episode, the one with Big Pussy is my second favorite in the series. The bigger problem is too much focus on Meadow or AJ who are good characters and fitting for Tony and Carm, but not exactly interesting or enjoyable to watch. Length in storylines was also an issue where Feech and Tony B's stuff felt either rushed or just could have gone on longer while others like the Vito one or the Kevin Finnerty thing seemed to take up a whole lot of time. There are very few things I actually straight up disliked, but one was how everything ended with Dr. Melfi. The Livia ending couldn't be helped due to the actress' death, but man that CG was such a bad choice. Also there is a pretty big shift in tone from the first season where ti's much more over the top and comedic. Not a huge issue, but later on it's a really big deal to hit a made guy when in season 1 it's not even an issue. It's still one of the best shows ever and super important for its influence, but there are too many flaws to put it over other shows that have come since. --- My Words Were True And Sheamus Made You Believe! https://imgur.com/Fc39f <cite>GameGodOfAll posted [p:914782484] in Sopranos i... [t:77338314]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GameGodOfAll posted...</cite> <quote>Top 10 for sure. Probably not top 5 though. At its peak it is one of the best, but the later seasons had problems. Not show ruining problems, but there were dips in quality here and there. Breaking Bad The Wire Better Call Saul Mad Men Those are all up there.</quote> Joke post. You're probably one of the donkeys that constantly complained about the ending.</quote> Nope loved the ending. Loved the whole show and just rewatched it for the 6th or 7th time earlier this year. Don't want to get all negative on it (top 10 is still amazing), but there were a handful of not very good episodes such as the dream one with Tony B, or the one about Columbus Day. But for every meh episode there are at least 3 great ones. The first dream heavy episode, the one with Big Pussy is my second favorite in the series. The bigger problem is too much focus on Meadow or AJ who are good characters and fitting for Tony and Carm, but not exactly interesting or enjoyable to watch. Length in storylines was also an issue where Feech and Tony B's stuff felt either rushed or just could have gone on longer while others like the Vito one or the Kevin Finnerty thing seemed to take up a whole lot of time. There are very few things I actually straight up disliked, but one was how everything ended with Dr. Melfi. The Livia ending couldn't be helped due to the actress' death, but man that CG was such a bad choice. Also there is a pretty big shift in tone from the first season where ti's much more over the top and comedic. Not a huge issue, but later on it's a really big deal to hit a made guy when in season 1 it's not even an issue. It's still one of the best shows ever and super important for its influence, but there are too many flaws to put it over other shows that have come since.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KILBOTz 12/27/18 2:29:15 PM #12:	The Twilight Zone The Simpsons The Wire --- https://imgur.com/O3syCWD https://imgur.com/k3YiBdG <cite>KILBOTz posted [p:914782596] in Sopranos i... [t:77338314]...</cite> <quote>The Twilight Zone The Simpsons The Wire</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YookaLaylee 12/27/18 2:57:27 PM #14:	HagenEx posted... The Wire The Shield The Sopranos Top 3. I havent seen the shield but I agree about the other two --- https://media.giphy.com/media/26gsuNHaqCPgziZYA/giphy.gif <cite>YookaLaylee posted [p:914783869] in Sopranos i... [t:77338314]...</cite> <quote><cite>HagenEx posted...</cite> <quote>The Wire The Shield The Sopranos Top 3.</quote> I havent seen the shield but I agree about the other two</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 12/27/18 3:07:41 PM #15:	GregShmedley posted... This is valid criticism, IMO. Ugh, especially Dr. Melfis closing. That was by far my biggest issue with the series. I also am not a fan of the Clever sub plot and absolutely hated the D-Girl episode. I seemed to be in the minority but I loved the Kevin Finnerty coma dream. See I didn't hate the Melfi stuff at all aside from how heavy handed it felt when they showed the definition highlighted in her book and made it clear that it was about Tony never changing. I felt she should have recognized that far before or, at minimum, by herself instead of how forced it felt. I mean, it was clear that Tony never was going to change and instead of reaching true enlightenment and accept who he was, hence the whole point of the coma stuff and really the last season entirely. Instead he rejected that and embraced his worst qualities and poisioned everything and everyone around him. But they didn't need to litetally spell out how sociopaths never change. --- https://youtu.be/zkNlmYJyFDo?t=80 "Like all fairy tales, Adam. There has to be a Hero, and there has to be a Villain." <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:914784323] in Sopranos i... [t:77338314]...</cite> <quote><cite>GregShmedley posted...</cite> <quote>This is valid criticism, IMO. Ugh, especially Dr. Melfis closing. That was by far my biggest issue with the series. I also am not a fan of the Clever sub plot and absolutely hated the D-Girl episode. I seemed to be in the minority but I loved the Kevin Finnerty coma dream.</quote> See I didn't hate the Melfi stuff at all aside from how heavy handed it felt when they showed the definition highlighted in her book and made it clear that it was about Tony never changing. I felt she should have recognized that far before or, at minimum, by herself instead of how forced it felt. I mean, it was clear that Tony never was going to change and instead of reaching true enlightenment and accept who he was, hence the whole point of the coma stuff and really the last season entirely. Instead he rejected that and embraced his worst qualities and poisioned everything and everyone around him. But they didn't need to litetally spell out how sociopaths never change.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
juicebox4 12/27/18 3:09:07 PM #16:	best show of all time --- Ding dong, bing bong GABBA GABBA HEY <cite>juicebox4 posted [p:914784389] in Sopranos i... [t:77338314]...</cite> <quote>best show of all time</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romulox28 12/27/18 4:12:43 PM #17:	The Great Muta 22 posted... See I didn't hate the Melfi stuff at all aside from how heavy handed it felt when they showed the definition highlighted in her book and made it clear that it was about Tony never changing. I felt she should have recognized that far before or, at minimum, by herself instead of how forced it felt. i thought the way melfi's ending went fit perfectly with the overall theme of the show (change). for years melfi went through this same song and dance: seeing Tony, being simultaneously disgusted by & attracted to him, etc. she knew from very early on that he didnt want to change, and the nature of their relationship was transactional from BOTH sides. Tony gets a safe place to vent and Melfi gets to explore her attraction to Tony's power & lifestyle. then one day melfi has that discussion at the dinner table and makes the snap decision to take a stance and make a change & cut tony out of her life. melfi didnt have some divine moment of clarity, there wasn't some elaborate event that opened her eyes, she just decided to take a stand and break the cycle, in a very real & very simple way. it's what Tony, Chris, Vito, Tony B, etc all failed to do. they feel trapped in these circumstances but the reality is that they all do it to themselves, these are the choices they are making. --- https://imgur.com/LhwwG <cite>Romulox28 posted [p:914787295] in Sopranos i... [t:77338314]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote>See I didn't hate the Melfi stuff at all aside from how heavy handed it felt when they showed the definition highlighted in her book and made it clear that it was about Tony never changing. I felt she should have recognized that far before or, at minimum, by herself instead of how forced it felt. </quote> i thought the way melfi's ending went fit perfectly with the overall theme of the show (change). for years melfi went through this same song and dance: seeing Tony, being simultaneously disgusted by & attracted to him, etc. she knew from very early on that he didnt want to change, and the nature of their relationship was transactional from BOTH sides. Tony gets a safe place to vent and Melfi gets to explore her attraction to Tony's power & lifestyle. then one day melfi has that discussion at the dinner table and makes the snap decision to take a stance and make a change & cut tony out of her life. melfi didnt have some divine moment of clarity, there wasn't some elaborate event that opened her eyes, she just decided to take a stand and break the cycle, in a very real & very simple way. it's what Tony, Chris, Vito, Tony B, etc all failed to do. they feel trapped in these circumstances but the reality is that they all do it to themselves, these are the choices they are making.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_B0xxY_2J_0sHBK 12/27/18 4:16:46 PM #18:	Im watching it for the first time now. Im on season 3. I so far couldnt justify it being top 10. There is really no overreaching arcs. Most characters, while charasmatic, are rather shallow. Too much fluff. Pacing isnt too good. Its a nice show but overrated. I do appreciatw what it did for tv though --- Cherry Cherry Boom Boom! <cite>_B0xxY_2J_0sHBK posted [p:914787475] in Sopranos i... [t:77338314]...</cite> <quote>Im watching it for the first time now. Im on season 3. I so far couldnt justify it being top 10. There is really no overreaching arcs. Most characters, while charasmatic, are rather shallow. Too much fluff. Pacing isnt too good. Its a nice show but overrated. I do appreciatw what it did for tv though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SideshowBob311 12/27/18 4:21:55 PM #19:	Romulox28 posted... honestly i think it might be the greatest TV drama of all time. i cant think of a more well-developed & complex character than Tony Soprano Vic Mackey....and it's not even close. --- "Whether or not you can handle it, you have just heard another statement of the TRUTH." [WoT] - [Evil Republican] <cite>SideshowBob311 posted [p:914787686] in Sopranos i... [t:77338314]...</cite> <quote><cite>Romulox28 posted...</cite> <quote>honestly i think it might be the greatest TV drama of all time. i cant think of a more well-developed & complex character than Tony Soprano</quote> Vic Mackey....and it's not even close.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romulox28 12/27/18 4:22:52 PM #20:	SideshowBob311 posted... Romulox28 posted... honestly i think it might be the greatest TV drama of all time. i cant think of a more well-developed & complex character than Tony Soprano Vic Mackey....and it's not even close. i was actually thinking of starting the shield tonight, i hear it's really good --- https://imgur.com/LhwwG <cite>Romulox28 posted [p:914787731] in Sopranos i... [t:77338314]...</cite> <quote><cite>SideshowBob311 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Romulox28 posted...</cite> <quote>honestly i think it might be the greatest TV drama of all time. i cant think of a more well-developed & complex character than Tony Soprano</quote> Vic Mackey....and it's not even close.</quote> i was actually thinking of starting the shield tonight, i hear it's really good</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 12/27/18 4:57:14 PM #21:	_B0xxY_2J_0sHBK posted... Im watching it for the first time now. Im on season 3. I so far couldnt justify it being top 10. There is really no overreaching arcs. Most characters, while charasmatic, are rather shallow. Too much fluff. Pacing isnt too good. Its a nice show but overrated. I do appreciatw what it did for tv though I really hope nobody takes this post seriously. Josh is the biggest troll on 261 --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:914789369] in Sopranos i... [t:77338314]...</cite> <quote><cite>_B0xxY_2J_0sHBK posted...</cite> <quote>Im watching it for the first time now. Im on season 3. I so far couldnt justify it being top 10. There is really no overreaching arcs. Most characters, while charasmatic, are rather shallow. Too much fluff. Pacing isnt too good. Its a nice show but overrated. I do appreciatw what it did for tv though</quote> I really hope nobody takes this post seriously. Josh is the biggest troll on 261</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_B0xxY_2J_0sHBK 12/27/18 5:05:52 PM #22:	Im on season 3. Outside of Tony, who else has really grown as a character? All the gang is the same. The mom never changed. The wife cheated. The son changed. The daughter hasnt really. Chris was the only one that showed development and they backpedaled on it. Thats not very compelling. Each episode is its own story really. I mean, yeah, you know there is the fbi and mafia stuff but they hardly even touch on it. Its just there and hardly ever leads anywhere outside of Tony becoming Capo. Then the episodes ate too long when they dont have to be. They literally focus on things that dont matter in any capacity. Its just fluff. If they cut that, the episodes could be a bit shortet and help with the pacing. The show isnt bad and I see why its important. I really liked the episode with Tonys dreams. I really like the music choices too. Its just that TV got better the last two decades. The wire was more compelling. Breaking bad did everything better especially with cinematography. I personally just dont see how a person could call it objectively a top 3 show. So maybe you shouldnt call people trolls for having a differing opinion. --- Cherry Cherry Boom Boom! <cite>_B0xxY_2J_0sHBK posted [p:914789795] in Sopranos i... [t:77338314]...</cite> <quote>Im on season 3. Outside of Tony, who else has really grown as a character? All the gang is the same. The mom never changed. The wife cheated. The son changed. The daughter hasnt really. Chris was the only one that showed development and they backpedaled on it. Thats not very compelling. Each episode is its own story really. I mean, yeah, you know there is the fbi and mafia stuff but they hardly even touch on it. Its just there and hardly ever leads anywhere outside of Tony becoming Capo. Then the episodes ate too long when they dont have to be. They literally focus on things that dont matter in any capacity. Its just fluff. If they cut that, the episodes could be a bit shortet and help with the pacing. The show isnt bad and I see why its important. I really liked the episode with Tonys dreams. I really like the music choices too. Its just that TV got better the last two decades. The wire was more compelling. Breaking bad did everything better especially with cinematography. I personally just dont see how a person could call it objectively a top 3 show. So maybe you shouldnt call people trolls for having a differing opinion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperExcitebike 12/27/18 5:06:10 PM #23:	Hard to do a top 3 without The Sopranos, Mad Men, and The Wire. The Shield, Twin Peaks, Justified, Six Feet Under, The X-Files, The West Wing, Friday Night Lights, Band of Brothers, and Buffy/Angel are all top dramas too. --- SMU Mustangs/Jayhawks/Texans/Rockets/Astros http://followmy.tv/u/Excitebike <cite>SuperExcitebike posted [p:914789811] in Sopranos i... [t:77338314]...</cite> <quote>Hard to do a top 3 without The Sopranos, Mad Men, and The Wire. The Shield, Twin Peaks, Justified, Six Feet Under, The X-Files, The West Wing, Friday Night Lights, Band of Brothers, and Buffy/Angel are all top dramas too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperExcitebike 12/27/18 5:07:00 PM #24:	_B0xxY_2J_0sHBK posted... Im on season 3. Outside of Tony, who else has really grown as a character? All the gang is the same. The mom never changed. The wife cheated. The son changed. The daughter hasnt really. Chris was the only one that showed development and they backpedaled on it. Thats not very compelling. Each episode is its own story really. I mean, yeah, you know there is the fbi and mafia stuff but they hardly even touch on it. Its just there and hardly ever leads anywhere outside of Tony becoming Capo. Then the episodes ate too long when they dont have to be. They literally focus on things that dont matter in any capacity. Its just fluff. If they cut that, the episodes could be a bit shortet and help with the pacing. The show isnt bad and I see why its important. I really liked the episode with Tonys dreams. I really like the music choices too. Its just that TV got better the last two decades. The wire was more compelling. Breaking bad did everything better especially with cinematography. I personally just dont see how a person could call it objectively a top 3 show. So maybe you shouldnt call people trolls for having a differing opinion. Did you see Pine Barrens yet? Top 3 Sopranos episode --- SMU Mustangs/Jayhawks/Texans/Rockets/Astros http://followmy.tv/u/Excitebike <cite>SuperExcitebike posted [p:914789851] in Sopranos i... [t:77338314]...</cite> <quote><cite>_B0xxY_2J_0sHBK posted...</cite> <quote>Im on season 3. Outside of Tony, who else has really grown as a character? All the gang is the same. The mom never changed. The wife cheated. The son changed. The daughter hasnt really. Chris was the only one that showed development and they backpedaled on it. Thats not very compelling. Each episode is its own story really. I mean, yeah, you know there is the fbi and mafia stuff but they hardly even touch on it. Its just there and hardly ever leads anywhere outside of Tony becoming Capo. Then the episodes ate too long when they dont have to be. They literally focus on things that dont matter in any capacity. Its just fluff. If they cut that, the episodes could be a bit shortet and help with the pacing. The show isnt bad and I see why its important. I really liked the episode with Tonys dreams. I really like the music choices too. Its just that TV got better the last two decades. The wire was more compelling. Breaking bad did everything better especially with cinematography. I personally just dont see how a person could call it objectively a top 3 show. So maybe you shouldnt call people trolls for having a differing opinion.</quote> Did you see Pine Barrens yet? Top 3 Sopranos episode</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_B0xxY_2J_0sHBK 12/27/18 5:11:01 PM #25:	Im on episode 4 of season 3. So far my favorite has been the dream one. Just the subtle things with sal with the fish and the quote throwbacks, music, the boat sounds. Everything was done great. Pine barrons doesnt sound familiar. I also should say that im told that the show gets better from season 3 on so who knows. My opinion is just that up to what ive seen thus far. Its obviously possible that i could be premature. My only real complaint is that they brought Janice back who might be the only character i actually dislike on the show --- Cherry Cherry Boom Boom! <cite>_B0xxY_2J_0sHBK posted [p:914790029] in Sopranos i... [t:77338314]...</cite> <quote>Im on episode 4 of season 3. So far my favorite has been the dream one. Just the subtle things with sal with the fish and the quote throwbacks, music, the boat sounds. Everything was done great. Pine barrons doesnt sound familiar. I also should say that im told that the show gets better from season 3 on so who knows. My opinion is just that up to what ive seen thus far. Its obviously possible that i could be premature. My only real complaint is that they brought Janice back who might be the only character i actually dislike on the show</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ray_Dorset 12/27/18 5:11:43 PM #26:	SuperExcitebike posted... _B0xxY_2J_0sHBK posted... Im on season 3. Outside of Tony, who else has really grown as a character? All the gang is the same. The mom never changed. The wife cheated. The son changed. The daughter hasnt really. Chris was the only one that showed development and they backpedaled on it. Thats not very compelling. Each episode is its own story really. I mean, yeah, you know there is the fbi and mafia stuff but they hardly even touch on it. Its just there and hardly ever leads anywhere outside of Tony becoming Capo. Then the episodes ate too long when they dont have to be. They literally focus on things that dont matter in any capacity. Its just fluff. If they cut that, the episodes could be a bit shortet and help with the pacing. The show isnt bad and I see why its important. I really liked the episode with Tonys dreams. I really like the music choices too. Its just that TV got better the last two decades. The wire was more compelling. Breaking bad did everything better especially with cinematography. I personally just dont see how a person could call it objectively a top 3 show. So maybe you shouldnt call people trolls for having a differing opinion. Did you see Pine Barrens yet? Top 3 Sopranos episode The guys an interior decorator! His place looked like shit... --- https://currentevents.ws/ https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1474-imgtc-development <cite>Ray_Dorset posted [p:914790062] in Sopranos i... [t:77338314]...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperExcitebike posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_B0xxY_2J_0sHBK posted...</cite> <quote>Im on season 3. Outside of Tony, who else has really grown as a character? All the gang is the same. The mom never changed. The wife cheated. The son changed. The daughter hasnt really. Chris was the only one that showed development and they backpedaled on it. Thats not very compelling. Each episode is its own story really. I mean, yeah, you know there is the fbi and mafia stuff but they hardly even touch on it. Its just there and hardly ever leads anywhere outside of Tony becoming Capo. Then the episodes ate too long when they dont have to be. They literally focus on things that dont matter in any capacity. Its just fluff. If they cut that, the episodes could be a bit shortet and help with the pacing. The show isnt bad and I see why its important. I really liked the episode with Tonys dreams. I really like the music choices too. Its just that TV got better the last two decades. The wire was more compelling. Breaking bad did everything better especially with cinematography. I personally just dont see how a person could call it objectively a top 3 show. So maybe you shouldnt call people trolls for having a differing opinion.</quote> Did you see Pine Barrens yet? Top 3 Sopranos episode</quote> The guys an interior decorator! His place looked like shit...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 12/27/18 5:21:12 PM #27:	_B0xxY_2J_0sHBK posted... So maybe you shouldnt call people trolls for having a differing opinion. I'm not calling you a troll for having a different opinion. You're a troll because you make countless alts to troll in the politics board. Therefore nobody should take you seriously. --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:914790494] in Sopranos i... [t:77338314]...</cite> <quote><cite>_B0xxY_2J_0sHBK posted...</cite> <quote> So maybe you shouldnt call people trolls for having a differing opinion. </quote> I'm not calling you a troll for having a different opinion. You're a troll because you make countless alts to troll in the politics board. Therefore nobody should take you seriously.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_B0xxY_2J_0sHBK 12/27/18 5:27:40 PM #28:	ChainedRedone posted... _B0xxY_2J_0sHBK posted... So maybe you shouldnt call people trolls for having a differing opinion. I'm not calling you a troll for having a different opinion. You're a troll because you make countless alts to troll in the politics board. Therefore nobody should take you seriously. Pretty sure preferring conservative, liberal or centrist ideology is opinion --- Cherry Cherry Boom Boom! <cite>_B0xxY_2J_0sHBK posted [p:914790760] in Sopranos i... [t:77338314]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_B0xxY_2J_0sHBK posted...</cite> <quote> So maybe you shouldnt call people trolls for having a differing opinion. </quote> I'm not calling you a troll for having a different opinion. You're a troll because you make countless alts to troll in the politics board. Therefore nobody should take you seriously.</quote> Pretty sure preferring conservative, liberal or centrist ideology is opinion</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 12/27/18 5:28:27 PM #29:	ChainedRedone posted... _B0xxY_2J_0sHBK posted... Im watching it for the first time now. Im on season 3. I so far couldnt justify it being top 10. There is really no overreaching arcs. Most characters, while charasmatic, are rather shallow. Too much fluff. Pacing isnt too good. Its a nice show but overrated. I do appreciatw what it did for tv though I really hope nobody takes this post seriously. Josh is the biggest troll on 261 Eh, as big as a joke troll that Josh is, what he's complaining about is things I remember that people said about the show as it aired live. I didn't really start to watch it live until season 4, but: People had complained about the pacing and Chase being a bit too much of a stubborn asshole to subvert what people wanted for a long ass time. The first season or so absolutely comes out swinging in terms of pure violence and stuff that, at the time, was relatively new to television. College, for example, was the 5th episode of the series and came out in 1999! And somewhere along the way, and relatively early on, Chase got pissed off that people began rooting for Tony and to see him kill more and more people so he decided to just say 'fuck it' and seemingly slowed everything way down and tell the story he wanted to tell. During season 4 specifically people got infuriated that the big climax was the Tony/Carmela fight and fall out and not the, what seemed to be coming, the big conflict with the NY family and Carmine. And a big reason why season 5 feels different from, say 4, was Chase responding to the criticism that the show was "too slow paced" and didn't deliver the shoot em up violence that viewers grew accustom to early on. But I feel this was when he decided to jump all in on the arc of, basically, making Tony the pure asshole that everyone should hate. But the fact was Gandolfini was so damn charismatic that no matter what he tried to do, people still rooted him on. And while the slow burn of Tony becoming less and less likable reaches it's climax, imo, in the 3rd to last episode of "Kennedy and Heidi" in the last season, it didn't register to a lot of people how I felt he intended all along the way. Don't get me wrong, it's legit my favorite show in TV history and I've probably watched the entire thing through AT LEAST a half dozen times and spent hours reading opinions and synopsis's about everything along the way, but it was absolutely a show that had a disconnect between the mass audience reception and the intention of the writers. Breaking Bad, for example, didn't have nearly as much ambiguity and played with the same anti-hero and morality issues. --- https://youtu.be/zkNlmYJyFDo?t=80 "Like all fairy tales, Adam. There has to be a Hero, and there has to be a Villain." <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:914790799] in Sopranos i... [t:77338314]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_B0xxY_2J_0sHBK posted...</cite> <quote>Im watching it for the first time now. Im on season 3. I so far couldnt justify it being top 10. There is really no overreaching arcs. Most characters, while charasmatic, are rather shallow. Too much fluff. Pacing isnt too good. Its a nice show but overrated. I do appreciatw what it did for tv though</quote> I really hope nobody takes this post seriously. Josh is the biggest troll on 261</quote> Eh, as big as a joke troll that Josh is, what he's complaining about is things I remember that people said about the show as it aired live. I didn't really start to watch it live until season 4, but: People had complained about the pacing and Chase being a bit too much of a stubborn asshole to subvert what people wanted for a long ass time. The first season or so absolutely comes out swinging in terms of pure violence and stuff that, at the time, was relatively new to television. College, for example, was the 5th episode of the series and came out in 1999! And somewhere along the way, and relatively early on, Chase got pissed off that people began rooting for Tony and to see him kill more and more people so he decided to just say 'fuck it' and seemingly slowed everything way down and tell the story he wanted to tell. During season 4 specifically people got infuriated that the big climax was the Tony/Carmela fight and fall out and not the, what seemed to be coming, the big conflict with the NY family and Carmine. And a big reason why season 5 feels different from, say 4, was Chase responding to the criticism that the show was "too slow paced" and didn't deliver the shoot em up violence that viewers grew accustom to early on. But I feel this was when he decided to jump all in on the arc of, basically, making Tony the pure asshole that everyone should hate. But the fact was Gandolfini was so damn charismatic that no matter what he tried to do, people still rooted him on. And while the slow burn of Tony becoming less and less likable reaches it's climax, imo, in the 3rd to last episode of "Kennedy and Heidi" in the last season, it didn't register to a lot of people how I felt he intended all along the way. Don't get me wrong, it's legit my favorite show in TV history and I've probably watched the entire thing through AT LEAST a half dozen times and spent hours reading opinions and synopsis's about everything along the way, but it was absolutely a show that had a disconnect between the mass audience reception and the intention of the writers. Breaking Bad, for example, didn't have nearly as much ambiguity and played with the same anti-hero and morality issues.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 12/27/18 5:29:52 PM #30:	_B0xxY_2J_0sHBK posted... ChainedRedone posted... _B0xxY_2J_0sHBK posted... So maybe you shouldnt call people trolls for having a differing opinion. I'm not calling you a troll for having a different opinion. You're a troll because you make countless alts to troll in the politics board. Therefore nobody should take you seriously. Pretty sure preferring conservative, liberal or centrist ideology is opinion That's why you need to make so many alts, right? --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:914790852] in Sopranos i... [t:77338314]...</cite> <quote><cite>_B0xxY_2J_0sHBK posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_B0xxY_2J_0sHBK posted...</cite> <quote> So maybe you shouldnt call people trolls for having a differing opinion. </quote> I'm not calling you a troll for having a different opinion. You're a troll because you make countless alts to troll in the politics board. Therefore nobody should take you seriously.</quote> Pretty sure preferring conservative, liberal or centrist ideology is opinion</quote> That's why you need to make so many alts, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 12/27/18 5:36:23 PM #31:	I think it's a great show and one of the greatest of all time, but it's hard for me to ever go back and rewatch it. There's just a lot of focus on things that don't interest me a lot of times that I just can't stick with it. The Great Muta 22 posted... People had complained about the pacing and Chase being a bit too much of a stubborn asshole to subvert what people wanted for a long ass time. The first season or so absolutely comes out swinging in terms of pure violence and stuff that, at the time, was relatively new to television. College, for example, was the 5th episode of the series and came out in 1999! And somewhere along the way, and relatively early on, Chase got pissed off that people began rooting for Tony and to see him kill more and more people so he decided to just say 'fuck it' and seemingly slowed everything way down and tell the story he wanted to tell. During season 4 specifically people got infuriated that the big climax was the Tony/Carmela fight and fall out and not the, what seemed to be coming, the big conflict with the NY family and Carmine. That makes a lot of sense. The first couple of seasons have a different feel to them than the rest of the seasons. It's partly why I like them the most. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:914791154] in Sopranos i... [t:77338314]...</cite> <quote>I think it's a great show and one of the greatest of all time, but it's hard for me to ever go back and rewatch it. There's just a lot of focus on things that don't interest me a lot of times that I just can't stick with it. <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote>People had complained about the pacing and Chase being a bit too much of a stubborn asshole to subvert what people wanted for a long ass time. The first season or so absolutely comes out swinging in terms of pure violence and stuff that, at the time, was relatively new to television. College, for example, was the 5th episode of the series and came out in 1999! And somewhere along the way, and relatively early on, Chase got pissed off that people began rooting for Tony and to see him kill more and more people so he decided to just say 'fuck it' and seemingly slowed everything way down and tell the story he wanted to tell. During season 4 specifically people got infuriated that the big climax was the Tony/Carmela fight and fall out and not the, what seemed to be coming, the big conflict with the NY family and Carmine. </quote> That makes a lot of sense. The first couple of seasons have a different feel to them than the rest of the seasons. It's partly why I like them the most.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_B0xxY_2J_0sHBK 12/27/18 5:40:29 PM #32:	ChainedRedone posted... _B0xxY_2J_0sHBK posted... ChainedRedone posted... _B0xxY_2J_0sHBK posted... So maybe you shouldnt call people trolls for having a differing opinion. I'm not calling you a troll for having a different opinion. You're a troll because you make countless alts to troll in the politics board. Therefore nobody should take you seriously. Pretty sure preferring conservative, liberal or centrist ideology is opinion That's why you need to make so many alts, right? https://imgur.com/evkCS0u --- Cherry Cherry Boom Boom! <cite>_B0xxY_2J_0sHBK posted [p:914791356] in Sopranos i... [t:77338314]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_B0xxY_2J_0sHBK posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_B0xxY_2J_0sHBK posted...</cite> <quote> So maybe you shouldnt call people trolls for having a differing opinion. </quote> I'm not calling you a troll for having a different opinion. You're a troll because you make countless alts to troll in the politics board. Therefore nobody should take you seriously.</quote> Pretty sure preferring conservative, liberal or centrist ideology is opinion</quote> That's why you need to make so many alts, right?</quote> https://imgur.com/evkCS0u</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GameGodOfAll 12/27/18 6:39:16 PM #33:	GregShmedley posted... This is valid criticism, IMO. Ugh, especially Dr. Melfis closing. That was by far my biggest issue with the series. I also am not a fan of the Clever sub plot and absolutely hated the D-Girl episode. I seemed to be in the minority but I loved the Kevin Finnerty coma dream. Cleaver was a bit over the top, but it provided a few really good scenes (I love the meeting where everyone goes over the plot and Sil gets so pissed about what makes a slasher), but I could take it or leave it Finnerty I came around on after multiple viewings. It's good stuff, but at the time I just wanted to get back to the real world stuff with there being only so many episodes left. --- My Words Were True And Sheamus Made You Believe! https://imgur.com/Fc39f <cite>GameGodOfAll posted [p:914793993] in Sopranos i... [t:77338314]...</cite> <quote><cite>GregShmedley posted...</cite> <quote>This is valid criticism, IMO. Ugh, especially Dr. Melfis closing. That was by far my biggest issue with the series. I also am not a fan of the Clever sub plot and absolutely hated the D-Girl episode. I seemed to be in the minority but I loved the Kevin Finnerty coma dream. </quote> Cleaver was a bit over the top, but it provided a few really good scenes (I love the meeting where everyone goes over the plot and Sil gets so pissed about what makes a slasher), but I could take it or leave it Finnerty I came around on after multiple viewings. It's good stuff, but at the time I just wanted to get back to the real world stuff with there being only so many episodes left.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ghostmess 12/27/18 6:41:31 PM #34:	I haven't finished it. My top 3 would be 1. Twin Peaks 2. Justified 3. Samurai Champloo <cite>ghostmess posted [p:914794092] in Sopranos i... [t:77338314]...</cite> <quote>I haven't finished it. My top 3 would be 1. Twin Peaks 2. Justified 3. Samurai Champloo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 12/27/18 7:27:07 PM #35:	GameGodOfAll posted... Cleaver was a bit over the top, but it provided a few really good scenes (I love the meeting where everyone goes over the plot and Sil gets so pissed about what makes a slasher), but I could take it or leave it The Cleaver stuff was saved to me because it touched back on the issues with Chris and his loyalty to Tony and viewing him as a father figure earlier in the series. Chris was always Tony's "son" of his other "family" and to basically see Chris play out his fantasies about wanting to kill Tony, to me, reflected Tonys own hatred he had for his own father and his refusal to acknowledge that. Not to mention it played a heavy hand in Tony pushing Chris back into addiction and the whole end game. ....I've seriously watched this show way too much lmao --- https://youtu.be/zkNlmYJyFDo?t=80 "Like all fairy tales, Adam. There has to be a Hero, and there has to be a Villain." <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:914796133] in Sopranos i... [t:77338314]...</cite> <quote><cite>GameGodOfAll posted...</cite> <quote>Cleaver was a bit over the top, but it provided a few really good scenes (I love the meeting where everyone goes over the plot and Sil gets so pissed about what makes a slasher), but I could take it or leave it</quote> The Cleaver stuff was saved to me because it touched back on the issues with Chris and his loyalty to Tony and viewing him as a father figure earlier in the series. Chris was always Tony's "son" of his other "family" and to basically see Chris play out his fantasies about wanting to kill Tony, to me, reflected Tonys own hatred he had for his own father and his refusal to acknowledge that. Not to mention it played a heavy hand in Tony pushing Chris back into addiction and the whole end game. ....I've seriously watched this show way too much lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GameGodOfAll 12/27/18 7:56:40 PM #36:	The Great Muta 22 posted... GameGodOfAll posted... Cleaver was a bit over the top, but it provided a few really good scenes (I love the meeting where everyone goes over the plot and Sil gets so pissed about what makes a slasher), but I could take it or leave it The Cleaver stuff was saved to me because it touched back on the issues with Chris and his loyalty to Tony and viewing him as a father figure earlier in the series. Chris was always Tony's "son" of his other "family" and to basically see Chris play out his fantasies about wanting to kill Tony, to me, reflected Tonys own hatred he had for his own father and his refusal to acknowledge that. Not to mention it played a heavy hand in Tony pushing Chris back into addiction and the whole end game. ....I've seriously watched this show way too much lmao ~~The scene with Tony breaking down in therapy about how Chris just sees him as a bully is one of the best.~~ --- My Words Were True And Sheamus Made You Believe! https://imgur.com/Fc39f <cite>GameGodOfAll posted [p:914797530] in Sopranos i... [t:77338314]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GameGodOfAll posted...</cite> <quote>Cleaver was a bit over the top, but it provided a few really good scenes (I love the meeting where everyone goes over the plot and Sil gets so pissed about what makes a slasher), but I could take it or leave it</quote> The Cleaver stuff was saved to me because it touched back on the issues with Chris and his loyalty to Tony and viewing him as a father figure earlier in the series. Chris was always Tony's "son" of his other "family" and to basically see Chris play out his fantasies about wanting to kill Tony, to me, reflected Tonys own hatred he had for his own father and his refusal to acknowledge that. Not to mention it played a heavy hand in Tony pushing Chris back into addiction and the whole end game. ....I've seriously watched this show way too much lmao</quote> The scene with Tony breaking down in therapy about how Chris just sees him as a bully is one of the best.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 12/27/18 8:34:53 PM #37:	GameGodOfAll posted... The Great Muta 22 posted... GameGodOfAll posted... Cleaver was a bit over the top, but it provided a few really good scenes (I love the meeting where everyone goes over the plot and Sil gets so pissed about what makes a slasher), but I could take it or leave it The Cleaver stuff was saved to me because it touched back on the issues with Chris and his loyalty to Tony and viewing him as a father figure earlier in the series. Chris was always Tony's "son" of his other "family" and to basically see Chris play out his fantasies about wanting to kill Tony, to me, reflected Tonys own hatred he had for his own father and his refusal to acknowledge that. Not to mention it played a heavy hand in Tony pushing Chris back into addiction and the whole end game. ....I've seriously watched this show way too much lmao ~~The scene with Tony breaking down in therapy about how Chris just sees him as a bully is one of the best.~~ I fucking loved the storyline of Tony subconsciously despising his own father and the fact that Johnny Boy pushed a young Tony into that life when Tony was never cut out for it. Almost any time I rewatch the series and you look for that specific thing you can see it littered throughout the entire thing, but especially from about season 3 onward. Tony desperately craved his fathers approval and whenever confronted with the fact that Johnny either didn't love him like he thought or he wasn't the man Tony pretended that he was he always lost his shit. For example, Tony never had the makings of a varsity athlete. And he had "small hands", according to Johnny Boy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_3-mWNMu-A" data-time=" --- https://youtu.be/zkNlmYJyFDo?t=80 "Like all fairy tales, Adam. There has to be a Hero, and there has to be a Villain." <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:914799089] in Sopranos i... [t:77338314]...</cite> <quote><cite>GameGodOfAll posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GameGodOfAll posted...</cite> <quote>Cleaver was a bit over the top, but it provided a few really good scenes (I love the meeting where everyone goes over the plot and Sil gets so pissed about what makes a slasher), but I could take it or leave it</quote> The Cleaver stuff was saved to me because it touched back on the issues with Chris and his loyalty to Tony and viewing him as a father figure earlier in the series. Chris was always Tony's "son" of his other "family" and to basically see Chris play out his fantasies about wanting to kill Tony, to me, reflected Tonys own hatred he had for his own father and his refusal to acknowledge that. Not to mention it played a heavy hand in Tony pushing Chris back into addiction and the whole end game. ....I've seriously watched this show way too much lmao</quote> The scene with Tony breaking down in therapy about how Chris just sees him as a bully is one of the best.</quote> I fucking loved the storyline of Tony subconsciously despising his own father and the fact that Johnny Boy pushed a young Tony into that life when Tony was never cut out for it. Almost any time I rewatch the series and you look for that specific thing you can see it littered throughout the entire thing, but especially from about season 3 onward. Tony desperately craved his fathers approval and whenever confronted with the fact that Johnny either didn't love him like he thought or he wasn't the man Tony pretended that he was he always lost his shit. For example, Tony never had the makings of a varsity athlete. And he had "small hands", according to Johnny Boy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_3-mWNMu-A" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 12/27/18 9:50:03 PM #38:	sopranos is a top 3 show for me along with the wire and probably breaking bad in 3rd --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:914802036] in Sopranos i... [t:77338314]...</cite> <quote>sopranos is a top 3 show for me along with the wire and probably breaking bad in 3rd</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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