Current Events > The Doctor from Voyager is probably one of my top 3 favorite Trek characters.

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LookANinja
12/15/18 2:15:17 PM
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DoctorVader
12/15/18 2:15:57 PM
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I simply prefer The Doctor.
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CapnMuffin
12/15/18 2:17:16 PM
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All the AI characters from Trek are great.
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Jagermeister513
12/15/18 2:17:59 PM
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I liked him better in the earlier seasons before he became entitled. "I know I'm the only medical doctor on this ship but these aliens we just met really like my singing so bye! Good luck!"
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LookANinja
12/15/18 2:32:29 PM
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Jagermeister513 posted...
I liked him better in the earlier seasons before he became entitled. "I know I'm the only medical doctor on this ship but these aliens we just met really like my singing so bye! Good luck!"

but later on he really does feel like more of a member of the crew. They made him godfather of a baby!
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pegusus123456
12/16/18 3:29:59 AM
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Jagermeister513 posted...
I liked him better in the earlier seasons before he became entitled. "I know I'm the only medical doctor on this ship but these aliens we just met really like my singing so bye! Good luck!"

How is that entitlement? Any other crew member would be free to leave the ship any time they want.
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Dampproof
12/16/18 3:45:31 AM
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The Doctor was a good character until:
- He became so thirsty for T of A that is entire character was warped around it.
- He became so entitled that he could do no wrong and arrogant.

This is largely the issue I have with later seasons of VOY. The cast was reduced to episodes of either Janeway, The Doctor or Seven.

With plotlines varying between:
- Some thirsty Aliens want to steal or do something (experiment on, drug, body swap etc) to Seven.
- The Doctor has a stick up his ass about something
- Janeway didnt drink her Coffee this morning and suddenly forgets the exact same situation they were in before thus leading her to doing the opposite of last time. Feeling very self righteous and hypocritical at the same time.

Chakotay could've been replaced by a cardboard cutout and we wouldve never noticed.
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Jagermeister513
12/16/18 3:49:54 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Jagermeister513 posted...
I liked him better in the earlier seasons before he became entitled. "I know I'm the only medical doctor on this ship but these aliens we just met really like my singing so bye! Good luck!"

How is that entitlement? Any other crew member would be free to leave the ship any time they want.

Because he was the only doctor on the ship.
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pegusus123456
12/16/18 4:08:52 AM
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Jagermeister513 posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
Jagermeister513 posted...
I liked him better in the earlier seasons before he became entitled. "I know I'm the only medical doctor on this ship but these aliens we just met really like my singing so bye! Good luck!"

How is that entitlement? Any other crew member would be free to leave the ship any time they want.

Because he was the only doctor on the ship.

Yeah, it was sort of a dickish thing to do, but I wouldn't call it entitled.
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SpiralDrift
12/16/18 4:10:35 AM
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I wasn't a fan. Voyager ruined holograms to the point where it arguably broke the entire Trekverse.
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Jagermeister513
12/16/18 4:23:25 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Jagermeister513 posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
Jagermeister513 posted...
I liked him better in the earlier seasons before he became entitled. "I know I'm the only medical doctor on this ship but these aliens we just met really like my singing so bye! Good luck!"

How is that entitlement? Any other crew member would be free to leave the ship any time they want.

Because he was the only doctor on the ship.

Yeah, it was sort of a dickish thing to do, but I wouldn't call it entitled.

That's really the only episode I didn't like him in, everything else was great. Robert Picardo was the best thing in Voyager.
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008Zulu
12/16/18 4:27:00 AM
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Dampproof posted...
Chakotay could've been replaced by a cardboard cutout and we wouldve never noticed.

Word was the actor playing him hated the role.
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SpiralDrift
12/16/18 4:29:01 AM
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Chakotay had a few good episodes. The one with him and Janeway left alone on that planet was great.
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pegusus123456
12/16/18 4:32:21 AM
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008Zulu posted...
Dampproof posted...
Chakotay could've been replaced by a cardboard cutout and we wouldve never noticed.

Word was the actor playing him hated the role.

I know for sure he was really pissed off with that episode where they find one of the original Earth spaceships because it was meant to be about Chakotay but they turned it into a Seven of Nine episode.
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SpiralDrift
12/16/18 4:34:11 AM
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They turned everything into a Seven episode though.

Kate Mulgrew got sick of that shit too. To this day I don't know if she's ever made peace with Jeri Ryan.
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pegusus123456
12/16/18 4:36:04 AM
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Actually, I found a interview where Chakotay just shits on Voyager.
http://www.jetclover.com/tri/chats8.htm

"What bothers me so much is that [the writers] have a cast of really, really fine actors, actors that can hold their own with anybody, anywhere, anytime, and they're absolutely wasting three-quarters of that cast on the most mundane scenes per episode, and concentrating on two or three characters. It gets very boring," Beltran remarks, "I feel that the whole Janeway and Seven of Nine thing has gone on so long that it seems that [the show] should be called Star Trek: Janeway and Seven of Nine, instead of Star Trek: Voyager. And frankly, the word that I'm getting from fans and people that watch the show is, 'Enough of this already' - and they're just echoing what is so obvious."

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Jagermeister513
12/16/18 4:38:28 AM
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Seven had to play mommy for Naomi Wildman after her mom mysteriously vanished.
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Jonny2284
12/16/18 5:06:34 AM
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That's the one I could never get my head around, if they wanted her gone to do a plot like that with Seven and the kid they had a perfect chance to kill Samantha Wildman off, and instead made the episode have a happy ending where she pulled through but never showed her on screen again while Naomi gets more screentime than half the people with names in the opening credits.
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LookANinja
12/16/18 8:25:45 AM
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OMG i just realized we never see samantha wildman again...
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EternalDivide
12/16/18 9:00:37 AM
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I always loved Voyager. Trashy bipolar Janeway logic writing and all. Yeah it did revolve around Seven, The Doctor and Janeway almost exclusively in the later seasons.
But even back then I would just think, "Do I really want to see more of Paris, Kim or Chakotay? Nope."
Maybe they could have done something interesting will all them if they tried but idk. Point is they didn't and by season 5 even it would have been a waste of time to try.

Janeway being loud and stupid, The Doctor being uptight and snarky and Seven doing her "This is stupid and I have no time for your rules." routine while walking around in her catsuit was better than episodes that focused on the others imho. I always think of that one god awful space race episode from the final season when I think of episodes concerning any of the other characters.
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008Zulu
12/16/18 8:37:23 PM
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LookANinja posted...
OMG i just realized we never see samantha wildman again...

She got put on a bus. Or, shuttlecraft.
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spudger
12/16/18 8:38:59 PM
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He was ok
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Offworlder1
12/16/18 8:46:26 PM
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I found it crazy when he could not stop chasing 7 of 9, he is a hologram with no junk and no sex drive but all the sudden he starts acting like a hormone ruled teenager.

The way he started thinking he could do no wrong and kept demanding more power like the whole emergancy command hologram thing was batshit crazy too. Asking for training to be in command or officier training I could see but thinking he could command the ship just cause he feels entitled was a no, even Harry Kim had training for that, you dont.
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