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maoriwarrior
12/15/18 11:19:44 AM
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As some of you may or may not remember, I fell hard asf for this girl. Weve dated for six months.

Well, we more or less ended it thru text. She had brought up that she thought about asking for space/time.

I took GFAQS advice and just went and did my own thing. Me and my roomie hit some clubs and had a good time. Then that night she hit me with the lets talk in person.

So we did yesterday. She told me she feels awful for dragging me through her baggage. How she hates herself for it. She also told me shes has leftover feelings for an ex. Said ex has been out of her life for a while. I couldnt be mad tho, because a lot of us still have leftover feelings for an ex, including myself.

So we talked and it seems kosher. Shes been incredibly depressed over the whole situation.

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MrK3V
12/15/18 11:20:23 AM
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teepan95
12/15/18 11:21:17 AM
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Wait for a bit before getting closer to her again, imo
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Genocet_10-325
12/15/18 11:22:39 AM
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um, leave

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maoriwarrior
12/15/18 11:42:11 AM
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MrK3V posted...
um, leave


@MrK3V

Why tho? Legit asking
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MrK3V
12/15/18 11:45:26 AM
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You both have left over feelings. You are clouding your judgement. It's sounding like you both are trying to fill a void with just someone, instead of someone who is right for you.
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Parappa09
12/15/18 11:46:22 AM
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i mean my gut instinct is saying for you to leave and not speak to her until she feels more stable with how she feels about her ex

without knowing more about her, it's hard to tell

and it's even harder since you said you also have leftover feelings for an ex. you should get yourself more out there and have fun first, rather than getting into another relationship
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maoriwarrior
12/15/18 11:59:49 AM
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MrK3V posted...
You both have left over feelings. You are clouding your judgement. It's sounding like you both are trying to fill a void with just someone, instead of someone who is right for you.


Youre not wrong.

Parappa09 posted...
i mean my gut instinct is saying for you to leave and not speak to her until she feels more stable with how she feels about her ex

without knowing more about her, it's hard to tell

and it's even harder since you said you also have leftover feelings for an ex. you should get yourself more out there and have fun first, rather than getting into another relationship


What would be some of the things that would change your thoughts if you knew more about her?
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Parappa09
12/15/18 12:09:46 PM
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maoriwarrior posted...
What would be some of the things that would change your thoughts if you knew more about her?

i'm not sure, it's hard to pin down exactly but i'd need to get the feel of her. i'm quite initivie when i meet people, so i'd be able to see how genuine she is, how honest she is, etc

when i initially met my bf, he still had feelings for his ex. but they weren't as deep as it sounds like for the both of you. it also wasn't much of an issue since he was unhappy that he still had feelings and was 100% ready to move on. it helped since we were dating, spending lots of time together and almost about to graduate and move city, so it was in the past
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maoriwarrior
12/15/18 1:35:38 PM
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Parappa09 posted...
maoriwarrior posted...
What would be some of the things that would change your thoughts if you knew more about her?

i'm not sure, it's hard to pin down exactly but i'd need to get the feel of her. i'm quite initivie when i meet people, so i'd be able to see how genuine she is, how honest she is, etc

when i initially met my bf, he still had feelings for his ex. but they weren't as deep as it sounds like for the both of you. it also wasn't much of an issue since he was unhappy that he still had feelings and was 100% ready to move on. it helped since we were dating, spending lots of time together and almost about to graduate and move city, so it was in the past


Shes very genuine and honest. She said she feels so awful because she feels like she was hiding it that she still cared about him.
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refmon
12/15/18 1:37:03 PM
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maoriwarrior posted...
Parappa09 posted...
maoriwarrior posted...
What would be some of the things that would change your thoughts if you knew more about her?

i'm not sure, it's hard to pin down exactly but i'd need to get the feel of her. i'm quite initivie when i meet people, so i'd be able to see how genuine she is, how honest she is, etc

when i initially met my bf, he still had feelings for his ex. but they weren't as deep as it sounds like for the both of you. it also wasn't much of an issue since he was unhappy that he still had feelings and was 100% ready to move on. it helped since we were dating, spending lots of time together and almost about to graduate and move city, so it was in the past


Shes very genuine and honest
. She said she feels so awful because she feels like she was hiding it that she still cared about him.

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maoriwarrior
12/15/18 2:21:57 PM
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refmon posted...
maoriwarrior posted...
Parappa09 posted...
maoriwarrior posted...
What would be some of the things that would change your thoughts if you knew more about her?

i'm not sure, it's hard to pin down exactly but i'd need to get the feel of her. i'm quite initivie when i meet people, so i'd be able to see how genuine she is, how honest she is, etc

when i initially met my bf, he still had feelings for his ex. but they weren't as deep as it sounds like for the both of you. it also wasn't much of an issue since he was unhappy that he still had feelings and was 100% ready to move on. it helped since we were dating, spending lots of time together and almost about to graduate and move city, so it was in the past


Shes very genuine and honest
. She said she feels so awful because she feels like she was hiding it that she still cared about him.


Youre right. God Im fucked up.
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Parappa09
12/15/18 2:24:05 PM
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maoriwarrior posted...
refmon posted...
maoriwarrior posted...
Parappa09 posted...
maoriwarrior posted...
What would be some of the things that would change your thoughts if you knew more about her?

i'm not sure, it's hard to pin down exactly but i'd need to get the feel of her. i'm quite initivie when i meet people, so i'd be able to see how genuine she is, how honest she is, etc

when i initially met my bf, he still had feelings for his ex. but they weren't as deep as it sounds like for the both of you. it also wasn't much of an issue since he was unhappy that he still had feelings and was 100% ready to move on. it helped since we were dating, spending lots of time together and almost about to graduate and move city, so it was in the past


Shes very genuine and honest
. She said she feels so awful because she feels like she was hiding it that she still cared about him.


Youre right. God Im fucked up.

its cool man, youre allowed to be after tough break ups

play the field, go clubbing with friends, sleep around, etc. but i would strongly advice against her or getting into another relationship rn
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maoriwarrior
12/15/18 3:05:25 PM
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Parappa09 posted...
maoriwarrior posted...
refmon posted...
maoriwarrior posted...
Parappa09 posted...
maoriwarrior posted...
What would be some of the things that would change your thoughts if you knew more about her?

i'm not sure, it's hard to pin down exactly but i'd need to get the feel of her. i'm quite initivie when i meet people, so i'd be able to see how genuine she is, how honest she is, etc

when i initially met my bf, he still had feelings for his ex. but they weren't as deep as it sounds like for the both of you. it also wasn't much of an issue since he was unhappy that he still had feelings and was 100% ready to move on. it helped since we were dating, spending lots of time together and almost about to graduate and move city, so it was in the past


Shes very genuine and honest
. She said she feels so awful because she feels like she was hiding it that she still cared about him.


Youre right. God Im fucked up.

its cool man, youre allowed to be after tough break ups

play the field, go clubbing with friends, sleep around, etc. but i would strongly advice against her or getting into another relationship rn


All I feel is pain rn tbh. And I have to fucking work today.
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TheMikh
12/15/18 3:06:04 PM
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maoriwarrior
12/15/18 6:10:28 PM
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TheMikh posted...
drop her


Ive been thinking about it. Like a lot. I mean, for fucks sake. She told me she loves me but she still loves the other guy. God damn did that hurt. I knew she did but just hearing her vocalize it has wrecked me.
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TheMikh
12/15/18 6:38:45 PM
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maoriwarrior posted...
TheMikh posted...
drop her


Ive been thinking about it. Like a lot. I mean, for fucks sake. She told me she loves me but she still loves the other guy. God damn did that hurt. I knew she did but just hearing her vocalize it has wrecked me.

She is human garbage and the sooner you sever all contact and move on, the better off you'll be.
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bulletproofvita
12/15/18 6:41:32 PM
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TheMikh posted...
maoriwarrior posted...
TheMikh posted...
drop her


Ive been thinking about it. Like a lot. I mean, for fucks sake. She told me she loves me but she still loves the other guy. God damn did that hurt. I knew she did but just hearing her vocalize it has wrecked me.

She is human garbage and the sooner you sever all contact and move on, the better off you'll be.

Tend to agree.she doesn't respect you. It doesn't matter to her how much you care.....
Sever, all, contact.
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AlisLandale
12/15/18 6:48:10 PM
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Who initiated the break up?

Were you officially broken up when she approached you?

Did you two get back together, or is it still in the air?

Curious on these details.
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maoriwarrior
12/15/18 7:07:58 PM
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AlisLandale posted...
Who initiated the break up? I more or less did.

Were you officially broken up when she approached you? No.

Did you two get back together, or is it still in the air? It never officially ended per se. but I feel like I at least accepted it.

Curious on these details.


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maoriwarrior
12/15/18 7:08:30 PM
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TheMikh posted...
maoriwarrior posted...
TheMikh posted...
drop her


Ive been thinking about it. Like a lot. I mean, for fucks sake. She told me she loves me but she still loves the other guy. God damn did that hurt. I knew she did but just hearing her vocalize it has wrecked me.

She is human garbage and the sooner you sever all contact and move on, the better off you'll be.


Reasoning? Besides the above based on everything Ive said. Legit curious.
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smoke_break
12/15/18 7:17:49 PM
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Honestly I've heard this exact story like a million times and I've also experienced it myself. It's never going to work out. Just stop talking to her and move on with your life. Just saying this for your own good. The stress of dealing with a person like her will literally drive you mad.
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maoriwarrior
12/15/18 7:26:17 PM
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smoke_break posted...
Honestly I've heard this exact story like a million times and I've also experienced it myself. It's never going to work out. Just stop talking to her and move on with your life. Just saying this for your own good. The stress of dealing with a person like her will literally drive you mad.


It already is. Sat in my room and cried like a bitch for an hour. Are there no success stories with something like this?
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DanHarenChamp
12/15/18 7:37:53 PM
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Leftover feelings is not "baggage" so don't admit to having that, TC. If she still had some leftover feelings and those are slowly going away as she's realizing theres better out there, that logically that old relationship didn't work out, and that person is genuinely happy. Thats all normal and not "baggage". If she's constantly thinking bout him, can't get over him, feelings aren't downtrending, and its putting more stress on you and your current relationship. That is baggage and that is super annoying and you shouldn't have to deal with it.

Like above posters, I have also been in this situation. "baggage" never goes away and drives you crazy over time. And even if you have a very high tolerance to bullshit like I did, she will drive herself crazy with all this bullshit and it will wear down on your relationship. What you once thought was happy and amazing ends up slowly going downhill. You'll find that she is doing more and more bullshit like not trusting you as she once did. (Its not that shes trusting you less, its that she was previously keeping it to herself to not seem crazy and now she can't hold it in). It'll wear you down to a breaking point inevitably.

There are plenty of fish in the sea. If you have good friends, they'll know how to take care of you. Its not about going to a strip club or tryna have 1 night stands. Its just about spending quality time with your friends and quality time to yourself to just work on your own life and career.
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maoriwarrior
12/15/18 8:40:01 PM
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DanHarenChamp posted...
Leftover feelings is not "baggage" so don't admit to having that, TC. If she still had some leftover feelings and those are slowly going away as she's realizing theres better out there, that logically that old relationship didn't work out, and that person is genuinely happy. Thats all normal and not "baggage". If she's constantly thinking bout him, can't get over him, feelings aren't downtrending, and its putting more stress on you and your current relationship. That is baggage and that is super annoying and you shouldn't have to deal with it.

Like above posters, I have also been in this situation. "baggage" never goes away and drives you crazy over time. And even if you have a very high tolerance to bullshit like I did, she will drive herself crazy with all this bullshit and it will wear down on your relationship. What you once thought was happy and amazing ends up slowly going downhill. You'll find that she is doing more and more bullshit like not trusting you as she once did. (Its not that shes trusting you less, its that she was previously keeping it to herself to not seem crazy and now she can't hold it in). It'll wear you down to a breaking point inevitably.

There are plenty of fish in the sea. If you have good friends, they'll know how to take care of you. Its not about going to a strip club or tryna have 1 night stands. Its just about spending quality time with your friends and quality time to yourself to just work on your own life and career.


Very good point. She liked a picture today that a few months ago she wouldve sent to me as something sweet on IG.

It read something like I cant I love you. I think of you all day long, morning, afternoon and night or something like that. Thats when I cried my face off. Because I knew she wasnt referencing me.

So I sent her a text and asked who she had been thinking more about. Him or I. Yeah, I know, not ALPHA shit but I needed to know. She then followed up with why does it matter? What good will it do? Im with you.

So I guess that answered my question.
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bulletproofvita
12/15/18 8:59:13 PM
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Move on
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SpiralDrift
12/15/18 9:08:17 PM
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maoriwarrior posted...
Very good point. She liked a picture today that a few months ago she wouldve sent to me as something sweet on IG.

It read something like I cant I love you. I think of you all day long, morning, afternoon and night or something like that. Thats when I cried my face off. Because I knew she wasnt referencing me.

So I sent her a text and asked who she had been thinking more about. Him or I. Yeah, I know, not ALPHA shit but I needed to know. She then followed up with why does it matter? What good will it do? Im with you.

So I guess that answered my question.

That's incredibly sad. It sounds like you already understand that she has nothing to offer you but heartache and feelings of inadequacy. If I were you I would cut her out of my life completely. It might seem drastic but you need to cut off those little moments of hope that keep pulling you back in.
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DrizztLink
12/15/18 9:11:25 PM
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maoriwarrior posted...
So we talked and it seems kosher. Shes been incredibly depressed over the whole situation.

Thoughts?

If you dump her now you'll disappoint that poor rabbi.
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maoriwarrior
12/15/18 9:12:17 PM
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bulletproofvita posted...
Move on


Easier said than done my friend.

SpiralDrift posted...
maoriwarrior posted...
Very good point. She liked a picture today that a few months ago she wouldve sent to me as something sweet on IG.

It read something like I cant I love you. I think of you all day long, morning, afternoon and night or something like that. Thats when I cried my face off. Because I knew she wasnt referencing me.

So I sent her a text and asked who she had been thinking more about. Him or I. Yeah, I know, not ALPHA shit but I needed to know. She then followed up with why does it matter? What good will it do? Im with you.

So I guess that answered my question.

That's incredibly sad. It sounds like you already understand that she has nothing to offer you but heartache and feelings of inadequacy. If I were you I would cut her out of my life completely. It might seem drastic but you need to cut off those little moments of hope that keep pulling you back in.


I think youre right. Ive gone through a divorce before that wasnt half as painful as this.
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DanHarenChamp
12/15/18 10:31:25 PM
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maoriwarrior posted...
She then followed up with why does it matter? What good will it do? Im with you.


yea...that pretty much seals the deal tbqh bro. You could respond with, of course it matters, loyalty matters.

I'll also tell you this, man. This is one of the very rare times that I've seen CE give actual good relationship advice and the person asking for advice is actually using the advice.

I think you should take control of it and break this one off. I mean you dont have to be a douche about it and ghost her. But I would talk to her on the phone and break it off. You can explain yourself in as much detail as you want, but the end result is non-negotiable.
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Ryuko_Chan
12/15/18 10:40:37 PM
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she seems like she doesnt love you bro

Its like shes hungry, her ex is food, and youre a cigarette

you can make her stomach stop hurting but you wont fill what she wants

its not your fault though. and yeah like someone else said leftover feelings isnt the same as baggage
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Ultima Dragon
12/15/18 11:03:54 PM
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There's "leftover feelings," then there's still being clearly obsessed with the guy and being unable to reconcile that fact.

I mean, I'm pretty sure we all have at least one ex we were heavily invested in where we really wish that things would have worked out. But we typically get over it, understand why it couldn't work, and push those thoughts way down until they're mostly forgotten about. Then if we do meet someone, it's a fresh start and we give 100% to that new person.

Nobody wants to feel like they're just being settled for or whatever, you know? You want to feel like she wants you as much as you want her. If you can't have that, you're just asking for a metric fuckton of heartache.
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maoriwarrior
12/16/18 3:19:24 AM
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DanHarenChamp posted...
maoriwarrior posted...
She then followed up with why does it matter? What good will it do? Im with you.


yea...that pretty much seals the deal tbqh bro. You could respond with, of course it matters, loyalty matters.

I'll also tell you this, man. This is one of the very rare times that I've seen CE give actual good relationship advice and the person asking for advice is actually using the advice.

I think you should take control of it and break this one off. I mean you dont have to be a douche about it and ghost her. But I would talk to her on the phone and break it off. You can explain yourself in as much detail as you want, but the end result is non-negotiable.


Yeah we broke it off tonight. She finally told me she loved me back and she doesnt want me to suffer any more pain. This hurts. And it hurts bad.

Ryuko_Chan posted...
she seems like she doesnt love you bro

Its like shes hungry, her ex is food, and youre a cigarette

you can make her stomach stop hurting but you wont fill what she wants

its not your fault though. and yeah like someone else said leftover feelings isnt the same as baggage


For sure. But fuck how can I live with myself knowing she LOVES another person?

Ultima Dragon posted...
There's "leftover feelings," then there's still being clearly obsessed with the guy and being unable to reconcile that fact.

I mean, I'm pretty sure we all have at least one ex we were heavily invested in where we really wish that things would have worked out. But we typically get over it, understand why it couldn't work, and push those thoughts way down until they're mostly forgotten about. Then if we do meet someone, it's a fresh start and we give 100% to that new person.

Nobody wants to feel like they're just being settled for or whatever, you know? You want to feel like she wants you as much as you want her. If you can't have that, you're just asking for a metric fuckton of heartache.


Which is exactly how I felt man. I felt like I was a second choice despite her saying otherwise.
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bulletproofvita
12/16/18 3:20:50 AM
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Cut all ties to survive man. It's the only way.
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maoriwarrior
12/16/18 3:31:15 AM
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bulletproofvita posted...
Cut all ties to survive man. It's the only way.


I did. Theres still a part of me thats overwhelmed with self doubt tho I wont lie. A mini panic attack if you will. A voice is saying what if shes right? What if you stuck it out with her and everything works out well?
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bulletproofvita
12/16/18 3:33:35 AM
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maoriwarrior posted...
bulletproofvita posted...
Cut all ties to survive man. It's the only way.


I did. Theres still a part of me thats overwhelmed with self doubt tho I wont lie. A mini panic attack if you will. A voice is saying what if shes right? What if you stuck it out with her and everything works out well?

Youre brain is lieing to you. The right one for you will never put you through this turmoil.
I understand the panic attack, I had one too it's natural.
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SpiralDrift
12/16/18 4:06:57 AM
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maoriwarrior posted...
Yeah we broke it off tonight. She finally told me she loved me back and she doesnt want me to suffer any more pain. This hurts. And it hurts bad.

That's rough and is exactly the kind of carrot dangling that says you need to cut her off completely. It's going to suck really bad but try to think ahead. Imagine there's a girl you'll meet who you have these same strong feelings for but she puts you first. You'll be much happier than this girl is capable of making you.
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bulletproofvita
12/16/18 4:08:59 AM
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SpiralDrift posted...
maoriwarrior posted...
Yeah we broke it off tonight. She finally told me she loved me back and she doesnt want me to suffer any more pain. This hurts. And it hurts bad.

That's rough and is exactly the kind of carrot dangling that says you need to cut her off completely. It's going to suck really bad but try to think ahead. Imagine there's a girl you'll meet who you have these same strong feelings for but she puts you first. You'll be much happier than this girl is capable of making you.

Listen to this.
The one you're in love with now likes to play games, even if she won't admit it.
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DanHarenChamp
12/16/18 9:36:37 AM
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as hard as it is, im glad TC is making the right decisions
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maoriwarrior
12/16/18 3:32:01 PM
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SpiralDrift posted...
maoriwarrior posted...
Yeah we broke it off tonight. She finally told me she loved me back and she doesnt want me to suffer any more pain. This hurts. And it hurts bad.

That's rough and is exactly the kind of carrot dangling that says you need to cut her off completely. It's going to suck really bad but try to think ahead. Imagine there's a girl you'll meet who you have these same strong feelings for but she puts you first. You'll be much happier than this girl is capable of making you.


I guess its because its been so amicable is why its making it much more difficult for me.

bulletproofvita posted...
SpiralDrift posted...
maoriwarrior posted...
Yeah we broke it off tonight. She finally told me she loved me back and she doesnt want me to suffer any more pain. This hurts. And it hurts bad.

That's rough and is exactly the kind of carrot dangling that says you need to cut her off completely. It's going to suck really bad but try to think ahead. Imagine there's a girl you'll meet who you have these same strong feelings for but she puts you first. You'll be much happier than this girl is capable of making you.

Listen to this.
The one you're in love with now likes to play games, even if she won't admit it.


I dont think shes doing it on purpose but objectively speaking she is. Its killing me.

DanHarenChamp posted...
as hard as it is, im glad TC is making the right decisions


Its the self doubt thats killing me. Like fuck maybe it could work out you know?
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