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jborgan
12/14/18 12:24:09 PM
#52:


Damn_Underscore posted...
Bloodychess posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
TBH it doesn't benefit anyone to end the company or even to send anyone to prison, let alone giving anyone the death penalty.


Why not?

It's a big market, someone will fill in the hole.

Send the board to prison for all I care, they knew.


They aren't a danger to society, they just screwed over society to make more money.

The only way to punish them that would actually benefit society is financially.

You don't have to play devil's advocate for every single issue, you know.
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Damn_Underscore
12/14/18 12:25:07 PM
#53:


jborgan posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
Bloodychess posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
TBH it doesn't benefit anyone to end the company or even to send anyone to prison, let alone giving anyone the death penalty.


Why not?

It's a big market, someone will fill in the hole.

Send the board to prison for all I care, they knew.


They aren't a danger to society, they just screwed over society to make more money.

The only way to punish them that would actually benefit society is financially.

You don't have to play devil's advocate for every single issue, you know.


I don't.
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Questionmarktarius
12/14/18 12:44:23 PM
#54:


Damn_Underscore posted...
The only way to punish them that would actually benefit society is financially.

Too bad there's a vague and ambiguous destination for that fined money.

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2015/11/05/good-question-where-does-money-from-government-fines-go/
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Jagr_68
12/14/18 12:51:27 PM
#55:


darkphoenix181 posted...
Need a billion dollar class action suit.


For real, man. The company justifiably will tank hard on Wall St so hopefully those affected can get as much money from this shitstain corporation as they can.

As far as criminal charges go, at a minimum the overseers who ran everything deserve life in prison without parole.
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CADE FOSTER
12/14/18 1:06:24 PM
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P4wn4g3
12/14/18 1:19:58 PM
#57:


Just charge them for reparations. That should be enough to ruin everyone tied to the company.
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Antifar
12/14/18 1:28:43 PM
#58:


Damn_Underscore posted...

They aren't a danger to society, they just screwed over society to make more money.

That is a danger to society
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jborgan
12/14/18 7:37:47 PM
#59:


Damn_Underscore posted...
jborgan posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
Bloodychess posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
TBH it doesn't benefit anyone to end the company or even to send anyone to prison, let alone giving anyone the death penalty.


Why not?

It's a big market, someone will fill in the hole.

Send the board to prison for all I care, they knew.


They aren't a danger to society, they just screwed over society to make more money.

The only way to punish them that would actually benefit society is financially.

You don't have to play devil's advocate for every single issue, you know.


I don't.

Then why are you trying to hand wave what they've done? They knowingly gave hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people carcinogens for decades. How are they not a danger to society? Why shouldn't the people involved in this cover up get any prison time?
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Damn_Underscore
12/14/18 7:39:18 PM
#60:


jborgan posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
jborgan posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
Bloodychess posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
TBH it doesn't benefit anyone to end the company or even to send anyone to prison, let alone giving anyone the death penalty.


Why not?

It's a big market, someone will fill in the hole.

Send the board to prison for all I care, they knew.


They aren't a danger to society, they just screwed over society to make more money.

The only way to punish them that would actually benefit society is financially.

You don't have to play devil's advocate for every single issue, you know.


I don't.

Then why are you trying to hand wave what they've done?


I never did.

What would killing everyone involved solve other than satisfying your sense of justice?
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jborgan
12/14/18 7:40:57 PM
#61:


Damn_Underscore posted...
jborgan posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
jborgan posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
Bloodychess posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
TBH it doesn't benefit anyone to end the company or even to send anyone to prison, let alone giving anyone the death penalty.


Why not?

It's a big market, someone will fill in the hole.

Send the board to prison for all I care, they knew.


They aren't a danger to society, they just screwed over society to make more money.

The only way to punish them that would actually benefit society is financially.

You don't have to play devil's advocate for every single issue, you know.


I don't.

Then why are you trying to hand wave what they've done?


I never did.

What would killing everyone involved solve other than satisfying your sense of justice?

I don't believe I said anything about killing.
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RickyTheBAWSE
12/14/18 7:45:03 PM
#62:


projections, lol
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Damn_Underscore
12/14/18 7:45:36 PM
#63:


jborgan posted...
I don't believe I said anything about killing.


Other people did.

What would putting everyone involved in jail for life while fining the company a few billion $ solve? Nothing. Johnson and Johnson has to be fined SEVERELY for this. They need to pay the medical bills of people who have and get cancer because of them.
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SchoolForAnts
12/14/18 8:03:38 PM
#64:


Damn_Underscore posted...
jborgan posted...
I don't believe I said anything about killing.


Other people did.

What would putting everyone involved in jail for life while fining the company a few billion $ solve? Nothing. Johnson and Johnson has to be fined SEVERELY for this. They need to pay the medical bills of people who have and get cancer because of them.


By that logic, why prosecute murders? It wont do any good, who is dead is dead
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TrevorBlack79
12/14/18 8:43:43 PM
#66:


Damn_Underscore posted...
What would putting everyone involved in jail for life while fining the company a few billion $ solve? Nothing.


Deterrence.
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DarkRoast
12/14/18 8:45:56 PM
#67:


They should fix this problem asbestos they can
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Damn_Underscore
12/14/18 8:46:09 PM
#68:


SchoolForAnts posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
jborgan posted...
I don't believe I said anything about killing.


Other people did.

What would putting everyone involved in jail for life while fining the company a few billion $ solve? Nothing. Johnson and Johnson has to be fined SEVERELY for this. They need to pay the medical bills of people who have and get cancer because of them.


By that logic, why prosecute murders? It wont do any good, who is dead is dead


This isn't a good argument in any way, murderers are actively dangerous to society.

Someone who commits assault on the other hand will usually get more lenience. At least for the first offense.
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SchoolForAnts
12/14/18 8:47:36 PM
#69:


Damn_Underscore posted...
SchoolForAnts posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
jborgan posted...
I don't believe I said anything about killing.


Other people did.

What would putting everyone involved in jail for life while fining the company a few billion $ solve? Nothing. Johnson and Johnson has to be fined SEVERELY for this. They need to pay the medical bills of people who have and get cancer because of them.


By that logic, why prosecute murders? It wont do any good, who is dead is dead


This isn't a good argument in any way, murderers are actively dangerous to society.

Someone who commits assault on the other hand will usually get more lenience. At least for the first offense.


Ah yes. And people who put cancerous chemicals on products that are supposed to be safe are not dangerous at all...
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Zikten
12/14/18 8:49:08 PM
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This is disgusting
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Damn_Underscore
12/14/18 8:51:36 PM
#71:


SchoolForAnts posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
SchoolForAnts posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
jborgan posted...
I don't believe I said anything about killing.


Other people did.

What would putting everyone involved in jail for life while fining the company a few billion $ solve? Nothing. Johnson and Johnson has to be fined SEVERELY for this. They need to pay the medical bills of people who have and get cancer because of them.


By that logic, why prosecute murders? It wont do any good, who is dead is dead


This isn't a good argument in any way, murderers are actively dangerous to society.

Someone who commits assault on the other hand will usually get more lenience. At least for the first offense.


Ah yes. And people who put cancerous chemicals on products that are supposed to be safe are not dangerous at all...


Then put them in jail. They probably will be anyway.

What is your reason for killing them again?
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SchoolForAnts
12/14/18 9:03:03 PM
#72:


Damn_Underscore posted...
SchoolForAnts posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
SchoolForAnts posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
jborgan posted...
I don't believe I said anything about killing.


Other people did.

What would putting everyone involved in jail for life while fining the company a few billion $ solve? Nothing. Johnson and Johnson has to be fined SEVERELY for this. They need to pay the medical bills of people who have and get cancer because of them.


By that logic, why prosecute murders? It wont do any good, who is dead is dead


This isn't a good argument in any way, murderers are actively dangerous to society.

Someone who commits assault on the other hand will usually get more lenience. At least for the first offense.


Ah yes. And people who put cancerous chemicals on products that are supposed to be safe are not dangerous at all...


Then put them in jail. They probably will be anyway.

What is your reason for killing them again?


I didnt say I wanted to kill them. That was someone else
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Damn_Underscore
12/14/18 9:05:31 PM
#73:


SchoolForAnts posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
SchoolForAnts posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
SchoolForAnts posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
jborgan posted...
I don't believe I said anything about killing.


Other people did.

What would putting everyone involved in jail for life while fining the company a few billion $ solve? Nothing. Johnson and Johnson has to be fined SEVERELY for this. They need to pay the medical bills of people who have and get cancer because of them.


By that logic, why prosecute murders? It wont do any good, who is dead is dead


This isn't a good argument in any way, murderers are actively dangerous to society.

Someone who commits assault on the other hand will usually get more lenience. At least for the first offense.


Ah yes. And people who put cancerous chemicals on products that are supposed to be safe are not dangerous at all...


Then put them in jail. They probably will be anyway.

What is your reason for killing them again?


I didnt say I wanted to kill them. That was someone else


You agreed with the guy who called for a corporate death penalty.

Even if that means shutting down the Johnson and Johnson company, not killing anyone, that would actually hurt society. I think I said in this topic that you probably use several of their products every day.
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TrevorBlack79
12/14/18 9:08:15 PM
#74:


Damn_Underscore posted...
I think I said in this topic that you probably use several of their products every day.


And if those products are tainted with asbestos, shutting the company down is in his (and everyone else's) best interest.
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Damn_Underscore
12/14/18 9:08:58 PM
#75:


Also prison should be a place where you get rehabilitated, but in reality it's just a place where you sit around and hopefully another person doesn't hurt you.

So the only benefit in imprisoning murderers is deterrence.
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Zikten
12/14/18 11:10:18 PM
#76:


I mean yea, we should put someone in prison to show that companies shouldn't be able to do this. arrest the CEO or whoever can be proven to have had a knowing hand in this. someone said the original people might be dead now. maybe. but younger people inherited the secret and they kept it. that makes them guilty too
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LightningAce11
12/14/18 11:30:27 PM
#78:


Companies who do shit like this should have all their assets liquidated and the company dissolved.
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gunplagirl
12/14/18 11:31:52 PM
#79:


Guess I'll be boycotting as much of their (and Unilever, same company but different brand) stuff as I can from now on.
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