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WinterFestival 12/11/18 6:25:57 PM #1:	Objective, unbiased analysis of each case on an individual basis. If a millionaire steals, he gets jail time. If a homeless person steals, he gets jail time. No more should our country be plagued by relativism. <cite>WinterFestival posted [p:913964393] in PSA: indiv... [t:77293178]...</cite> <quote>Objective, unbiased analysis of each case on an individual basis. If a millionaire steals, he gets jail time. If a homeless person steals, he gets jail time. No more should our country be plagued by relativism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anti-245 12/11/18 6:27:11 PM #2:	WinterFestival posted... Objective, unbiased analysis of each case on an individual basis. If a millionaire steals, he gets jail time. If a homeless person steals, he gets jail time. No more should our country be plagued by relativism. Human beings are not individually drive though. Most of us form groups and fight each other for said groups. It's a nice theory but it's not reality. --- Life in the DoB. <cite>Anti-245 posted [p:913964452] in PSA: indiv... [t:77293178]...</cite> <quote><cite>WinterFestival posted...</cite> <quote>Objective, unbiased analysis of each case on an individual basis. If a millionaire steals, he gets jail time. If a homeless person steals, he gets jail time. No more should our country be plagued by relativism.</quote> Human beings are not individually drive though. Most of us form groups and fight each other for said groups. It's a nice theory but it's not reality.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 12/11/18 6:28:43 PM #3:	Human's lose their greatest strength by committing to individualism. That is why a capitalist society with incentive to have more than others leads to so much heartache and depression. --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:913964530] in PSA: indiv... [t:77293178]...</cite> <quote>Human's lose their greatest strength by committing to individualism. That is why a capitalist society with incentive to have more than others leads to so much heartache and depression.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboLaserGandhi 12/11/18 6:34:20 PM #4:	Anti-245 posted... WinterFestival posted... Objective, unbiased analysis of each case on an individual basis. If a millionaire steals, he gets jail time. If a homeless person steals, he gets jail time. No more should our country be plagued by relativism. Human beings are not individually drive though. Most of us form groups and fight each other for said groups. It's a nice theory but it's not reality. You underestimate the amount of individuals. It's probably only about 30% of people who are group minded. <cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted [p:913964787] in PSA: indiv... [t:77293178]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WinterFestival posted...</cite> <quote>Objective, unbiased analysis of each case on an individual basis. If a millionaire steals, he gets jail time. If a homeless person steals, he gets jail time. No more should our country be plagued by relativism.</quote> Human beings are not individually drive though. Most of us form groups and fight each other for said groups. It's a nice theory but it's not reality.</quote> You underestimate the amount of individuals. It's probably only about 30% of people who are group minded.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 12/11/18 6:35:32 PM #5:	Has relativism always been the opposite of individualism? <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:913964841] in PSA: indiv... [t:77293178]...</cite> <quote>Has relativism always been the opposite of individualism?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WinterFestival 12/11/18 6:39:14 PM #6:	Dragonblade01 posted... Has relativism always been the opposite of individualism? Relativism prevents people from seeing the truth. People can just say thats what I believe and in a relativistic society, people are forced to accept it instead of finding the truth. <cite>WinterFestival posted [p:913964992] in PSA: indiv... [t:77293178]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>Has relativism always been the opposite of individualism?</quote> Relativism prevents people from seeing the truth. People can just say thats what I believe and in a relativistic society, people are forced to accept it instead of finding the truth.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 12/11/18 6:45:57 PM #7:	Dragonblade01 posted... Has relativism always been the opposite of individualism? it never has and it never will be --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:913965298] in PSA: indiv... [t:77293178]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>Has relativism always been the opposite of individualism?</quote> it never has and it never will be</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Dream87 12/11/18 7:17:50 PM #8:	If you're a sociopath, yeah, place your stock in that --- <cite>Blue_Dream87 posted [p:913966867] in PSA: indiv... [t:77293178]...</cite> <quote>If you're a sociopath, yeah, place your stock in that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WinterFestival 12/11/18 7:23:43 PM #9:	Blue_Dream87 posted... If you're a sociopath, yeah, place your stock in that Why would it be sociopathic to favor true equality? <cite>WinterFestival posted [p:913967165] in PSA: indiv... [t:77293178]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Dream87 posted...</cite> <quote>If you're a sociopath, yeah, place your stock in that</quote> Why would it be sociopathic to favor true equality?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 12/11/18 7:24:48 PM #10:	Love to pretend power doesn't exost --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:913967215] in PSA: indiv... [t:77293178]...</cite> <quote>Love to pretend power doesn't exost</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WinterFestival 12/11/18 7:25:35 PM #11:	Antifar posted... Love to pretend power doesn't exost Why would power or the lack of it let people commit crimes? <cite>WinterFestival posted [p:913967249] in PSA: indiv... [t:77293178]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>Love to pretend power doesn't exost</quote> Why would power or the lack of it let people commit crimes?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 12/11/18 7:25:46 PM #12:	I think you don't understand individuation if you think it is the opposite of relativism lol --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:913967257] in PSA: indiv... [t:77293178]...</cite> <quote>I think you don't understand individuation if you think it is the opposite of relativism lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WinterFestival 12/11/18 7:27:27 PM #13:	COVxy posted... I think you don't understand individuation if you think it is the opposite if relativism lol No, but relativism prevents fair treatment <cite>WinterFestival posted [p:913967320] in PSA: indiv... [t:77293178]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>I think you don't understand individuation if you think it is the opposite if relativism lol</quote> No, but relativism prevents fair treatment</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 12/11/18 7:28:41 PM #14:	Everything you say is a non sequitur. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:913967384] in PSA: indiv... [t:77293178]...</cite> <quote>Everything you say is a non sequitur.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prettyprincess 12/11/18 7:29:06 PM #15:	way too obvious to immediately go from "individualism is correct" to "both of these examples deserve the same outcome" --- And in an infinite regress, tell me, why is the pain of birth lighter borne than the pain of death? <cite>prettyprincess posted [p:913967400] in PSA: indiv... [t:77293178]...</cite> <quote>way too obvious to immediately go from "individualism is correct" to "both of these examples deserve the same outcome"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 12/11/18 7:29:45 PM #16:	WinterFestival posted... COVxy posted... I think you don't understand individuation if you think it is the opposite if relativism lol No, but relativism prevents fair treatment I think you're trying to say something entirely different than the jargon you use. You want to say true fairness is exact and equal treatment. Of course, there's obvious reasons why this isn't true. But i think that's all you're trying to say. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:913967440] in PSA: indiv... [t:77293178]...</cite> <quote><cite>WinterFestival posted...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>I think you don't understand individuation if you think it is the opposite if relativism lol</quote> No, but relativism prevents fair treatment</quote> I think you're trying to say something entirely different than the jargon you use. You want to say true fairness is exact and equal treatment. Of course, there's obvious reasons why this isn't true. But i think that's all you're trying to say.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WinterFestival 12/11/18 7:31:55 PM #17:	Dragonblade01 posted... Everything you say is a non sequitur. I dont know what that means prettyprincess posted... way too obvious to immediately go from "individualism is correct" to "both of these examples deserve the same outcome" What am I implying? COVxy posted... WinterFestival posted... COVxy posted... I think you don't understand individuation if you think it is the opposite if relativism lol No, but relativism prevents fair treatment I think you're trying to say something entirely different than the jargon you use. You want to say true fairness is exact and equal treatment. Of course, there's obvious reasons why this isn't true. But i think that's all you're trying to say. Fair treatment is individualism. Its ensuring that no one is above the law. Everyone is judged on their merits, not through some disruptive scoring system. <cite>WinterFestival posted [p:913967541] in PSA: indiv... [t:77293178]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>Everything you say is a non sequitur.</quote> I dont know what that means <cite>prettyprincess posted...</cite> <quote>way too obvious to immediately go from "individualism is correct" to "both of these examples deserve the same outcome"</quote> What am I implying? <cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WinterFestival posted...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>I think you don't understand individuation if you think it is the opposite if relativism lol</quote> No, but relativism prevents fair treatment</quote> I think you're trying to say something entirely different than the jargon you use. You want to say true fairness is exact and equal treatment. Of course, there's obvious reasons why this isn't true. But i think that's all you're trying to say.</quote> Fair treatment is individualism. Its ensuring that no one is above the law. Everyone is judged on their merits, not through some disruptive scoring system.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Moth366 12/11/18 7:34:24 PM #18:	The opposite of individualism is collectivism, not relativism. The opposite of relativism is absolutism. --- I think this topic has reached it's peak and will be closed since I already got my answer thanks to MOTH - Camarokamara <cite>Moth366 posted [p:913967634] in PSA: indiv... [t:77293178]...</cite> <quote>The opposite of individualism is collectivism, not relativism. The opposite of relativism is absolutism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MakoReizei 12/11/18 7:37:41 PM #19:	Collectivism is bad and has killed tens of millions. Communism, fascism are both examples of collectivism --- https://i.imgtc.com/3owskMW.png <cite>MakoReizei posted [p:913967763] in PSA: indiv... [t:77293178]...</cite> <quote>Collectivism is bad and has killed tens of millions. Communism, fascism are both examples of collectivism</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anti-245 12/11/18 11:27:08 PM #21:	VoightKent posted... WinterFestival posted... Objective, unbiased analysis of each case on an individual basis. If a millionaire steals, he gets jail time. If a homeless person steals, he gets jail time. No more should our country be plagued by relativism. >Individualism is the moral stance, political philosophy, ideology, or social outlook that emphasizes the moral worth of the individual. That word; I'm not sure it means what you think it means It's utopian if you asked me. --- Life in the DoB. <cite>Anti-245 posted [p:913978908] in PSA: indiv... [t:77293178]...</cite> <quote><cite>VoightKent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WinterFestival posted...</cite> <quote>Objective, unbiased analysis of each case on an individual basis. If a millionaire steals, he gets jail time. If a homeless person steals, he gets jail time. No more should our country be plagued by relativism. </quote> >Individualism is the moral stance, political philosophy, ideology, or social outlook that emphasizes the moral worth of the individual. That word; I'm not sure it means what you think it means</quote> It's utopian if you asked me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Candice_ 12/11/18 11:33:01 PM #22:	TC seems to neglect motive entirely. A driver that killed someone trying to evade another accident is the same as a person who murders in cold blood. A death is a death after all. --- Check out my channel! http://twitch.tv/travisaxel <cite>_Candice_ posted [p:913979133] in PSA: indiv... [t:77293178]...</cite> <quote>TC seems to neglect motive entirely. A driver that killed someone trying to evade another accident is the same as a person who murders in cold blood. A death is a death after all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anti-245 12/11/18 11:35:27 PM #23:	_Candice_ posted... TC seems to neglect motive entirely. A driver that killed someone trying to evade another accident is the same as a person who murders in cold blood. A death is a death after all. Sounds similar to centrist thinking. I wonder if "classical liberalism" will be mentioned here next. --- Life in the DoB. <cite>Anti-245 posted [p:913979222] in PSA: indiv... [t:77293178]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Candice_ posted...</cite> <quote>TC seems to neglect motive entirely. A driver that killed someone trying to evade another accident is the same as a person who murders in cold blood. A death is a death after all.</quote> Sounds similar to centrist thinking. I wonder if "classical liberalism" will be mentioned here next.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 12/11/18 11:43:32 PM #24:	a nice thought, but ideals that don't take reality and human nature into consideration are naive at best. most people acknowledge the strength of groups. you could be the only anime fan in a group of friends who make fun of anime. find you a group that are anime enthusiasts, you're probably gonna be able to open even more doors of opportunity. like going to conventions with said group. or having backup when you're being picked on for it. unfortunately not everybody has the integrity to check their own people even when they disagree. you get things like "blue wall of silence" and shit. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:913979554] in PSA: indiv... [t:77293178]...</cite> <quote>a nice thought, but ideals that don't take reality and human nature into consideration are naive at best. most people acknowledge the strength of groups. you could be the only anime fan in a group of friends who make fun of anime. find you a group that are anime enthusiasts, you're probably gonna be able to open even more doors of opportunity. like going to conventions with said group. or having backup when you're being picked on for it. unfortunately not everybody has the integrity to check their own people even when they disagree. you get things like "blue wall of silence" and shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 12/12/18 12:34:07 AM #25:	If that was the case, it'd be super easy to game the system. A millionaire could easily manipulate the system so that people without his advantages would be forced into disadvantegous situations to advantage themselves. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:913981395] in PSA: indiv... [t:77293178]...</cite> <quote>If that was the case, it'd be super easy to game the system. A millionaire could easily manipulate the system so that people without his advantages would be forced into disadvantegous situations to advantage themselves.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anti-245 12/12/18 12:39:11 AM #26:	Dash_Harber posted... If that was the case, it'd be super easy to game the system. A millionaire could easily manipulate the system so that people without his advantages would be forced into disadvantegous situations to advantage themselves. I'm not sure who you're talking to but the rich already do that except they benefit each other at the expense of society. --- Life in the DoB. <cite>Anti-245 posted [p:913981567] in PSA: indiv... [t:77293178]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>If that was the case, it'd be super easy to game the system. A millionaire could easily manipulate the system so that people without his advantages would be forced into disadvantegous situations to advantage themselves.</quote> I'm not sure who you're talking to but the rich already do that except they benefit each other at the expense of society.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ambience 12/12/18 12:41:14 AM #27:	It's always funny when HeyJohnHothlin (TC) gets REKT in his topics --- A Beach in Winter <cite>Ambience posted [p:913981640] in PSA: indiv... [t:77293178]...</cite> <quote>It's always funny when HeyJohnHothlin (TC) gets REKT in his topics</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 12/12/18 12:44:20 AM #28:	it would be nice for rich people to actually get punished for their crimes, but that's not how society works --- I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my homosexuals FUH-LAMING! - Homer Simpson Don't be a turd. - Chris Pratt <cite>HylianFox posted [p:913981759] in PSA: indiv... [t:77293178]...</cite> <quote>it would be nice for rich people to actually get punished for their crimes, but that's not how society works</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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